I'm 61 and played my first round when I was 12. Never had a golf lesson. Never had a mentor. I have more golf swings than a politician has lies. I would shoot 90 one day and 112 the next. I am the rare golfer who could have 6 pars on the card and still shoot over 100. Then my brother in law told me about Moe Norman, just this year. My brother in law carries a 1-2 handicap and plays the tough courses (Pebble Beach two weeks ago) I had never heard of him. So I watched a few videos and went to the range yesterday, trying to "Swing like Moe." Holy cow! 15 out of 20 5 irons looked like they were traveling down a railroad track. The other five were still within a city street width. Before that, 20 of my 5 irons wouldn't fit into a football field, sideways! I can't wait to hit the links after a few more range trips. There is one consistency that Moe does that I have never heard him mention. His ELBOWS. His right elbow is never more than an inch or two from his right side. Many golfers, including me, would keep the right elbow tucked on the backswing but then let it FLY WAY OUT on the downswing, trying to get more power into the golf club, trying to DRIVE the club faster. And if you stop your backswing at the top, then move your right elbow in and out, watch how far the clubhead moves. That one move takes your golf club OUT of the single plane more than any other move. Thank you Todd for posting this video of a LEGEND OF GOLF. It's a shame that Moe wasn't able to find the mental/emotional help, aka counseling, to handle the EVIL that we all face in our lives. But it would appear that MOE is BIGGER after his passing than he was before! Kudo's to Moe!!

@BengaliJoddha

2 жыл бұрын

Good point.. same was George Knudson and Stan Leonard.. check it out

@jeffw8230

Жыл бұрын

Moe it is now reported high level functioning Autism…

@curtmcguire5431

11 ай бұрын

So, so , true. I had 36 different swings "thoughts" every round. And if I hit a ball well I had no idea why? Could never repeat it. My game was depressing. Didn't want to play anymore. Then I discovered Mo. Took a 3 day class. THE GAME IS FUN AGAIN! And when I hit a poor shot I know why. I was in the high 90's. Now I'm down to 85 and I will get lower with more practice. And it's so much easier on my back and body

When Mo got sponsored by Titleist, they put him on a golf swing monitor. They could not believe the stats. He was the only player they had ever measured, who struck the golf ball with ZERO side spin!!!!

Years ago I read about a reporter who asked Moe what his best round was. Moe replied "6 flagsticks" which meant he hit 6 out of the 18 flagsticks either on his tee shots on par 3s or on his approach shots on par 4s and 5s in one round!

Incredible that in his younger years he was so shy and later on he became really comfortable talking in public. He was amazing

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

YEs he was.

@kerryharmon8528

3 жыл бұрын

That's the result of love and encouragement versus jealousy and bullying. I am thankful that Moe felt the love and respect he deserved. Thanks Todd for this gold....

@harryartinian7982

3 жыл бұрын

@@kerryharmon8528 IMHO, Todd, Tim and all the staff have built GGA into the best golf training business in the world. They believe in the simplicity and accuracy of Moe’s swing, invested in the biomechanical analytics that prove it, created high quality products, outstanding service and go out of their way to help anyone interested in playing better to improve. Golfers around the world are switching and finding success because the game is fun again! Keep it up, guys…your content is incredible and the joyful effects is undeniable!

@latman1

2 жыл бұрын

I wish this was subtitled. It was hard to understand a lot of what he was saying.

His mind was the key. He was very relaxed. He had supreme belief in not worrying. Worry is destructive. He believed that every shot would work. Just like his swing, he blocked everything negative. A feeling of greatness. Trust your swing. Keep it simple. A swing that works. A mind that works. Straight works. Distance comes.

Who could possibly dislike footage from Moe unbelievable

Hypnotic. Can't stop watching. Can't even imagine how great he must have been in person.

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

I felt the same way.

@martinzacarias9791

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf The most impressive for me is the wedge. I simply can't imagine how he did that. I think besides of the purity of technique as he calls it, he had unique coordination and sense of tempo.

@kaceymotley3597

4 ай бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf We’re you at this session, Todd? I thought you met Mo in 94. Can’t imagine how great it was to learn from Mo.

Just listening to the crowds reaction after his first swing with the driver, you could tell they were all amazed

In 2000 he would have been 71 years old. Amazing. Just the number of balls he's hitting is amazing for 71.

15 years of no golf due to back pain and 8 years of retirement golf with pain, pills and ice, I was ready to pack it in. Started the SPS journey this last spring and rather than barely finishing 18 (and being finished for the rest of the day...) I am now playing up to 27 holes per day with no pain, ice or pills. A godsend that saved my golf life. I will be forever grateful to Moe and "Little Moe" for this gift.

Moe's best line @14:26 "Greenskeepers love me, never know I was here." I just find that funny.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Moe had a great sense of humor.

@tloco28

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf Thanks for your videos Todd and for carrying on Moe's legacy. I've hit the ball much straighter after watching your videos and always ask golfers I meet if they've ever heard of Moe. Very few do, so I tell them to look him up and also yourself on KZread.

The quintessential Canadian… straight from Acadia with an indefatigable grit in pursuit of a goal… admirable

@ToddGravesGolf

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

I am currently learning this swing. I havent been able to play golf because of my back. I went to the range the other night and started working on this swing. I am not quite there yet, but I will say that I hadnt hit the ball that well in a very long time. My back held up just fine too. Thank you Todd for teaching this. You rock!

Moe rocks! In my opinion he is one of the best humans to walk this plane.

@helenver3872

Жыл бұрын

There are many more, but we do't get to see them, because they are "different" and therefor not so easily excepted unfortunately. Maybe strange but I feel a great love for this human.

I started using the single plane swing two years ago and June of 2023 i got my third career hole in one using the single plane swing. Moe Norman was a genius and so is Todd Graves.

That was just incredible..A genius at work!.. I'll tell you something else... If Moe hadn't of made it playing golf, he would have done well as a stand up comedian.. I don't don't think he realized just how funny he was!

Listening to Moe's advice and short answers reminds me of my 6th grade teacher's favorite saying. ' A word to the wise should be sufficient.'

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Moe was very sharp.

Thanks for sharing this Todd! Classic Moe. Good old Kitchener boy!

I wish people like Moe Norman could live forever (in a healthy state that is).

Five years to make his swing repeatable - wow. I always love to see him hit on these videos. He certainly put in the work required to develop his swing.

the sound of the 3 wood is crazy, so solid

The sound of those clubs hitting that ball...😎

Absolutely amazing. You are so blessed to have known Moe.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

No doubt!

This is mind boggling, especially at 70 years of age, and 5’ 7”. Moe was such an inspirational guy, I would’ve loved to meet him! No doubt about it, a legend of the game. RIP Murray Irwin Norman.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

So True.

@MrLocacat

3 жыл бұрын

I saw Moe in person on the practice range for a Canadian Tour event. He was really that good, every shot was like an instant replay. Jim Nelford was an amateur hitting balls beside Moe. Moe said to him, "if you can't find your swing in 5 shots then you don't have it."

Thanks for sharing. Every shot sounded so pure!! Moe was definitely a gem!!

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Yes he was.

If you golf A LOT and I mean AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALOT. You can grasp his intellect. To the average person, he seems like a know it all (been there before). But he is just telling it how it is. Pure honesty. People really don't like honesty most of the time, although they clamor for it. When it's there, they find a way to manipulate the pureness. You can watch this video... and literally mimic it if you eradicate other thoughts and focus just on his setup and what it does for the swing. I wouldn't ever have to ask him a question. I'd stand behind him, to side of him, any angle I could...and just absorb what he is accomplishing. It's that observation, that allows your mind to adapt. You won't look like him doing it most likely, but if you can accomplish what he is doing and why he is doing it, your body will adjust naturally. I believe Moe is the one that said "don't fight positions". So true Moe, so true. I wish you were still alive today and I could have the pleasure of laughing and striking the ball with ya. Thanks for this upload Todd.

Had a bad back for ten years, tried swinging like Moe and can play golf again, the swing puts so much less stress on my back

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear.

It’s just wonderful to see repeated swings where Moe never passes his left side. He posts up and his left side looks like he’s stopping against a wall. Just remarkable!

@gordenscottfan3107

2 жыл бұрын

Yet in other demos he talks and shows the lead knee bending fore ward, two completely different moves on different days on the range.......

The sound of his shots are amazing. Thanks for the video.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@Todd Graves. Thanks for sharing Todd. Just want to share an update on my swing progress and for others that may have similar issues. Yesterday, was making a few duff hits behind the ball, then I noticed you had a video about 'early release fix' and that solved the problem. The only issue with that is, it takes a good tempo sequence to shift onto the bent front knee and rotate the hips to their limit, limited by the flared front foot. So what I do is, I pre-set weight onto front knee bend and have slightly open hips, though really, the front foot being flared, already does that naturally a little. And my the feeling I want, is to have tension in that front hip area, only slight tension should be felt on back leg or hip in the back swing. This modification, has given me much greater consistency on squaring the club face, was practicing with 5 wood and 7 iron, was hitting both very cleanly and straight or slight draw. peace love light

Moe was an amazing man, love the video...he was one of those type guys you want to meet and shake his hand...

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

He had strong hands.

Recently read the feeling of greatness such a awesome insight in to the genius that is Moe Norman.❤️

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Great Book.

He was from my hometown….my grandfather knew him well and there are a ton of local stories….I’m not sure if he was autistic or had lasting effects from an illness when he was a baby….he’d sleep in his car at tournaments and the trunk would be full of checks. A real character and legend.

What an amazing video! Thank you so much for sharing. I look forward to more!

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

20 years on, still admired and missed.

Some things you can’t teach… a true self made man… a swing built from scratch with a feel and a dream

@ToddGravesGolf

Жыл бұрын

Self made with a discovered swing.

That strike is just pure joy........every time.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

yes.

Pure gold...

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Moe was pure gold.

So pure! So pure!

12:36 - "Where your attention is, there you are."

It must have felt great for Moe knowing that he - being the only golfer ever to play the shot that he sets out to play on every shot! I tuned into Todd's blog by error, that is why I learned about Moe and the hard life he lived, not many here is Scotland had ever heard of Moe! - he was a great self taught sportsman, but unfortunately some Pro golfers thought they could read Moe as a book by it's cover! If it was not for Todd telling the story of this great man, then am sure a lot of golfer (world wide) would have missed is what most of us have been missing! I can't wait to see the film of Moe and Todd in the cinema! I still can't master Moe's swing - sometimes I hit huge drives and think -YES- ave got it, only to shank my wedge as my golf mates laugh! I understand Todd's saying in skimming a stone, but with stretching the arms out to play the one plain swing, makes it hard for me to get the right elbow swinging with the torso on the follow through! I have watched all Todd's video's of the time he spent with Moe and him explaining Moe's swing, then I think in how Moe felt when he seen Todd swinging like him, I also feel Todd's pain when he talks about his pal Moe in his video's! I love golf as it has been my life for over 50 years, but I am at an age now when am fed up playing well for 8 or so holes then the game bites you on the bum - it happens to us all - except Moe Norman - The greatest golfer to have ever lived, yet hidden from the world! RIP Moe!

no human swings a club that smooth and controlled. there was only one - moe.

I never get tired of Moe. My wedge shots are the best part of my game and they're consistently dead on and pure and I unintentionally always end up at that Moe Norman finish position like I'm pointing a wand to the target. I've tried it with my other clubs and it doesnt work unless I'm hitting a stinger or punch shot which is also consistent for me. There's something to that finish position and the positions you have to be in to get there, still trying to work with it. If I could hit my irons like I hit my wedges I'll be a hell of a ball striker.

@Sueezedtight

3 жыл бұрын

Get your hands (and arms) into the same impact position (maximum extension AFTER impact like with chips and pitches) and you will get the result you seek.

@brandonjordan2516

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sueezedtight I'm trying trust me, have to try harder. There's no reason it shouldnt work with the rest of the bag but so far no luck. Golf is a mystery.

@Sueezedtight

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandonjordan2516 So am I. My early release issues are my biggest problem and what keeps me from breaking par. SPS helps in that it gets the upper body turning on a stable platform with the arms leading the hands. Start slow and low and increase from there (PW - I - W - Dr). If your hands are not in front of the lead thigh at impact then the strike is not pure. A mystery, yes but not an enigma. :)

If you are a fan of golf, it doesn't get any better than this! Thank you, Todd.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

I have not seen this one VERY VERY VERY good.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it.

Thanks for these as always, Todd!

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@chrisdoe6890

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf thanks Todd. So glad you were able to have become friends and capture his knowledge and mechanics. PS: I just ordered your online book and video classes . Stay well.

I love listening to Moe hit golf balls.

I've tried hes swing no what it works simplicity in motion made me a believer throw away everything u ever learned it's crazy simple like da man every shot straight I didn't believe till I tried it

What an interesting guy, Moe Norman and John Daly have to be the two golfers I would love to play a round with.

Moe Norman reminds me of w c fields. What a talented guy

Whatever Sir Todd Graves teach are the bible of techniques of master moves.....I hv proven it for my years of golf.! Your concious n subconscious has to be manage by super conciousness of bliss!

Todd your videos of Moe are invaluable, and will likely be watched for generations.

The Greatest Moe Norman

Amazing. Genius

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

Yes he was.

I've seen ppl on shorts about Moe Norman dissing the man (RIP) and I took them to task. I said "a little respect here, Sir! You're dissing the greatest ballstriker in professional Golf history!" For my part I'll never play golf again if I haven't mastered the single plane swing!

To be 70 and hitting like that is one thing, but doing it after having heart surgery and being 70 is awesome

Those driver hits 😲😲😲 insane 👍

@marybetheby5184

3 жыл бұрын

He spanks that poor ball...

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

yes he always did.

@CarlBroadbent

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf Amazing how far behind the ball he was. I'm trying the single plane and loving it. But still struggle with drive with the same stance.

Amazing! How does he do that, so much practice! Great video!

Moe could have been one of the greatest of all time on the PGA tour. It is a crying shame that the PGA did to him what they did. They feared him is why. He would have fitted in well in today's tour, I do believe, especially with the younger generation more involved with the sport than ever.

He's absolutely pinging them!

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Yes he always did.

Awesome

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

Looking at that club head speed Moe probably could drive 250 carry😊

Wow would love to have been there watching that in person. The strikes sound ridiculous! Great video

So Pure

Beautiful

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

The only person who can say "the wind took it" that you know isnt bullshitting themselves

It takes time and lots of practice to get his swing mechanics to work , but it does work if you , get it ! It is difficult to reverse the body motion from a hanging arms and straighten to not do it . Especially if you are 194cm tall . I think being a shorter person makes this swing easier because you stand uprite and that saves your back

I would love to see Moe's driver head. He said it's completely worn out right in the center. Crazy good.

Excelente, Cuando podría ud subtitular en español estos videos?

17:40 - Watching Moe in paused motion, frame by frame, we see he moves his lead hip towards the target WHILE he is still executing his back swing! All the greats did this move, and Moe did it as good as any of them!

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Moe would say "I'm going back as I'm coming down"

Great video thanks for sharing. Sooooo what's Hogan's secret. Did Mr Moe tell you haha

He was a showman

@thelampman6582

3 жыл бұрын

that's why he got kicked out of the pga!

@erikwestrheim804

3 жыл бұрын

@@thelampman6582 Must have hurted many ego too.

How’s the documentary coming along Todd?

Why is this not the method taught for a swing like holy shit what more do you have to see

Sad that I will never see him in real live I'm about 80% of he's swing now.

These videos are the best.Todd,any info on what his swing speed was??Also,would you consider Steve Stricker to be a single plane swing?

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

I measured clubhead speed at 107 when he was 64.

@marybetheby5184

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf Wow..very impressive!

Tee is 7 years old..hahahah I dont think I've ever laughed so much wow.what a legend

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

yes. He was amazing.

What happen to the lesson on the golf channel with moe and his golf swing translator they took it off KZread

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

No idea.

Mo was incredible, but I wouldn't even dream of trying to trying to emulate his swing.

i think the secret is overspin ,for further drives

U will never miss another fairway again hit every green u aim at

Man what I would give to attend one of his seminars... And he grew up just a couple hours away from me.... Crazy

All the genius is in the persistence… most of us have never seen a tee not move and still in place after a drive… you’d have to measure that precision with a micrometer… if moe played against a robot… the robot wouldn’t stand a chance… you couldn’t program a robot to beat Moe…

@ToddGravesGolf

Жыл бұрын

True.

I am soooo sorry that I cannot understand everything he says. I wish there were subtitles....

I now want mustard coloured pleated pants and green sweatshirt...

3:31 - I've practiced this exact action many times lately for approach shots 120 yards or less. Keeping the swing path DTL as long as possible and club face skyward past impact. It's absolutely amazing how accurate the shots are. I was flying the ball all around the flag 105 yards out. Extremely effective way to score on short par 4s and par 5s. I have video on my channel for those that are interested.

Moe’s golf swing although perfect in every way is not all he says it is. Yes he does deliberately stop the twirling of his club head as he is chipping; but not on his full swing. In this video Mo Norman said “I’m the only one who has knowledge of my hands and arm” However he should have included his friend Ben Hogan; both of whom claimed to have the secret. The secret of both players and many professional players today is the proper execution of the elusive unfelt clockwise twirling of the club head that takes place at the top of every great golfer swing whether they are aware of it or not. The twirl is seen in both Moe Norman’s and Ben Hogan waggling their club as a rehearsal to start their swing. It is simply done with the pulling back of the trail hand and index finger and then simply letting it go clockwise. Jack Nicklaus did a more pronounced twirl waggle then Moe or Ben. Every golfer should begin to simply understand that the golf swing should only have one complete spiral of the head of the club as it is turning throughout it’s circumference. In order to do this; the club head must always spiral clockwise at the top of their swing to the finish of their swing. This secret move can only takes place at the top of their swing by starting the backswing twirling of the club head with their trail hands and wrist turning inward in a clockwise fashion as their entire body will respond to this one move. And then at the top of their swing many professional players are simply pulling on the handle of there club as much as they wish to to starts their downswing. Because the hips are the axis of the golfers swing; centripetal force; not apparent centrifugal force; draws the head of the club towards the golfers revolving hips. Cheers

Sounds like Moe was using Calloway SteelHead Plus Woods!

11:30 - "A motion within a motion." If take the time to speak Moe, then you'll understand what he means.

Something I notice is how fat back his address of club is before he takes the swing. Most people nudge the club right up to the ball and start their back swing from nearly touching the ball. Makes me very curious about that aspect of his set up at address before he starts the swing in motion.

Thanks Todd. Curious, what was his 5 iron distance when he was 70?

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

around 175 - 180.

@swingeasyguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf Thanks Todd..I'll tell you an interesting story. I got to play 9 holes with Moe when I was 19 at the old Richmond Hill Golf Course. I didn't know who he was until later. I was an extremely slow methodical golfer. About 20 years later I was taking my teaching certificate at Hidden Lake and he was standing by the range watching us hit. I walked over and asked for his autograph. He said, "do you play any faster now? I said in disbelief, "you remember playing with me?" He replied, "Ya, Richmond Hill, the slowest golfer I ever played with" I was and still am totally mesmerized.

@jeffbrown4292

3 жыл бұрын

@@swingeasyguy that’s incredible

@alexBaldman

3 жыл бұрын

@@swingeasyguy amazing

Hey Todd, where's part 2?

At about 23:00 he says, watch this, 300. Purity of technique he says. He's 5' 7" and 71 years old.

Vertical shaft at the end of his short shots means quiet hands in a traditional swing. In Mo's case it happens as a product of his set up and grip.

How did he hit all of those balls off of a tee without breaking the tee or the tee going anywhere? I can not tell by the camera angle where the ball is placed in his stance and alignment. Is it in front of his left foot towards the flag or inside his left foot or where?

Con traducción al español?

Any videos from behind?

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. I have some.

Is he looking at the ball or behind it at impact

@ToddGravesGolf

Жыл бұрын

Towards it and through it. Peripherally.

Would it be possible for you to tell us what was in Moe’s bag?

@ToddGravesGolf

Жыл бұрын

Bag or trunk?

@247Therocker

Жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf what his club set up was … brand? woods? Irons? Putter?

Secret is?