A short break from DIY projects to do some fun Nerdle math. I ran some calculations to try to find the best starting Nerdle guess.
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Пікірлер: 17
@richardsaunders2185 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Just wondering if you treated commutative answers as distinct, and if you considered formats like 2 * - 3 + 7 = 1
@projectreaDIY
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, I treated commutative answers as distinct. I did not consider negative numbers - does the game allow that format?
@FidgetMDCCLXIV2 жыл бұрын
What equation do you rate most as a good starter: 3*64=192 6*57=342 8*64=512
@projectreaDIY
2 жыл бұрын
Using my method of matching those equations against all other equations, counting greens & purples, and weighting purples half of greens, then 8*64=512 is the best of those three: 3*64=192 : 12,375 greens & 62,647 purples => 43,799 overall score 6*57=342 : 11,460 greens & 60,648 purples => 41,784 overall score 8*64=512 : 13,472 greens & 61,493 purples => 44,219 overall score Here is the data for the starting equation the video recommends: 48-32=16 : 25,712 greens & 52,036 purples => 51,730 overall score
@FidgetMDCCLXIV
2 жыл бұрын
@@projectreaDIY Which #*##=### equation is the best?
Coming up with 2 equations that cover all digits and operators is an entertaining academic problem but it's a lousy Nerdle strategy. There is no point in walking away from information obtained on your first turn rather than building upon it. Perhaps for a player of low-skill, it's a strategy that increases the odds of solving the puzzle within 6 turns but my goal is to try to solve it in 2 turns if possible. This strategy of playing all digits and operators makes that impossible.
@projectreaDIY
19 күн бұрын
Agreed. You can't do better than come up with a best first guess and then use that info for the next guess.
@00dfm00 Жыл бұрын
9*8-7=65 0+12/3=4 Covers all numbers and operators and moves the = sign. You'll get it in 3 or 4 every time. You're welcome 😁
@alexw50852 жыл бұрын
You have too much time on your hands 😏 I always start with these TWO lines... 36-9*4=0 and 21/7+5=8. Then I know exactly what numbers and operators are in the answer, and more often than not, can get the answer on the third line (after a bit of mental number-crunching of course!!)
@projectreaDIY
2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know if that pair is the best pair to open with. If I can tweak the code to find out I'll post an update :)
@projectreaDIY
2 жыл бұрын
I had the computer run through all possible two equation openers that use all numbers and all operators (there are 568 possible combinations). The best of those -- i.e., the pair that will get you the most matches -- is: 10 - 4 / 2 = 8 9 * 6 + 3 = 57 Note that the two equations have the "=" sign in different places, which contributes to the information you'll get. Happy Nerdle'ing!
@alexw5085
2 жыл бұрын
@@projectreaDIY Good work 👏 I've tried these today ... the irony is that today's answer is 3 digits so the = is at position 5 🤦♂️! I'm amazed there are 568 possibles. It took me ages to find my 2 (by hand ... no computers involved). I develop commercial software for a living but PL/SQL doesn't necessarily lend itself to this sort of problem solving 🤣
@michaelsherrard
2 жыл бұрын
true, your first equations contain all the numbers and operators. Good find! I am going to give this a try. However, you have the "=" sign in the same place in both. So, unless you guessed it right, you don't know if the answer has 2 or three digits. I am just a beginner at this, but it seems to me that this is very important to know. I'd love to have two equations with all the numbers and operators that also move the "=". That would be about the best "human" solution. I am sure someone is working on a system to optimize the 2nd guess based on the feedback from the first.
@projectreaDIY
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsherrard Good intuition on the location of the equals signs. I had the computer run through all possible two equation openers that use all numbers and all operators (there are 568 possible combinations). The best of those -- i.e., the pair that will get you the most matches -- is: 10 - 4 / 2 = 8 9 * 6 + 3 = 57
Пікірлер: 17
Great video. Just wondering if you treated commutative answers as distinct, and if you considered formats like 2 * - 3 + 7 = 1
@projectreaDIY
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, I treated commutative answers as distinct. I did not consider negative numbers - does the game allow that format?
What equation do you rate most as a good starter: 3*64=192 6*57=342 8*64=512
@projectreaDIY
2 жыл бұрын
Using my method of matching those equations against all other equations, counting greens & purples, and weighting purples half of greens, then 8*64=512 is the best of those three: 3*64=192 : 12,375 greens & 62,647 purples => 43,799 overall score 6*57=342 : 11,460 greens & 60,648 purples => 41,784 overall score 8*64=512 : 13,472 greens & 61,493 purples => 44,219 overall score Here is the data for the starting equation the video recommends: 48-32=16 : 25,712 greens & 52,036 purples => 51,730 overall score
@FidgetMDCCLXIV
2 жыл бұрын
@@projectreaDIY Which #*##=### equation is the best?
@projectreaDIY
2 жыл бұрын
8*52=416 : 13,835 greens & 61,130 purples => 44,400 overall score
Coming up with 2 equations that cover all digits and operators is an entertaining academic problem but it's a lousy Nerdle strategy. There is no point in walking away from information obtained on your first turn rather than building upon it. Perhaps for a player of low-skill, it's a strategy that increases the odds of solving the puzzle within 6 turns but my goal is to try to solve it in 2 turns if possible. This strategy of playing all digits and operators makes that impossible.
@projectreaDIY
19 күн бұрын
Agreed. You can't do better than come up with a best first guess and then use that info for the next guess.
9*8-7=65 0+12/3=4 Covers all numbers and operators and moves the = sign. You'll get it in 3 or 4 every time. You're welcome 😁
You have too much time on your hands 😏 I always start with these TWO lines... 36-9*4=0 and 21/7+5=8. Then I know exactly what numbers and operators are in the answer, and more often than not, can get the answer on the third line (after a bit of mental number-crunching of course!!)
@projectreaDIY
2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know if that pair is the best pair to open with. If I can tweak the code to find out I'll post an update :)
@projectreaDIY
2 жыл бұрын
I had the computer run through all possible two equation openers that use all numbers and all operators (there are 568 possible combinations). The best of those -- i.e., the pair that will get you the most matches -- is: 10 - 4 / 2 = 8 9 * 6 + 3 = 57 Note that the two equations have the "=" sign in different places, which contributes to the information you'll get. Happy Nerdle'ing!
@alexw5085
2 жыл бұрын
@@projectreaDIY Good work 👏 I've tried these today ... the irony is that today's answer is 3 digits so the = is at position 5 🤦♂️! I'm amazed there are 568 possibles. It took me ages to find my 2 (by hand ... no computers involved). I develop commercial software for a living but PL/SQL doesn't necessarily lend itself to this sort of problem solving 🤣
@michaelsherrard
2 жыл бұрын
true, your first equations contain all the numbers and operators. Good find! I am going to give this a try. However, you have the "=" sign in the same place in both. So, unless you guessed it right, you don't know if the answer has 2 or three digits. I am just a beginner at this, but it seems to me that this is very important to know. I'd love to have two equations with all the numbers and operators that also move the "=". That would be about the best "human" solution. I am sure someone is working on a system to optimize the 2nd guess based on the feedback from the first.
@projectreaDIY
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsherrard Good intuition on the location of the equals signs. I had the computer run through all possible two equation openers that use all numbers and all operators (there are 568 possible combinations). The best of those -- i.e., the pair that will get you the most matches -- is: 10 - 4 / 2 = 8 9 * 6 + 3 = 57