Something important I failed to mention in the video: A valid use case of the "Basic Edition" of the mod would be for use with the upcoming RetroTINK 4K or PixelFX Morph 4K scalers to take it the rest of the way to 4K. IMO using multiple steps to do your scaling seems wasteful and silly, but I think that's what was being aimed for and what people have been coming up with as the plan.

@muhammadsaadcheema1253

10 ай бұрын

Link ??

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

@@muhammadsaadcheema1253I mean, neither of those scalers have released yet. You have the ability to leave a comment, you can type them into Google or Bing and find out. :)

@Mave-rick

10 ай бұрын

That's basically my take on why PixelFX didn't charge full price like their previous digital mods. I get why some call it DLC and I have no issue with the backlash on that, but keep in mind, if enough people complain, then the basic price might disappear and EVERYONE will have to pay full price for something they might not need. I like the option to choose, so I personally got basic. Why pay more if you know you're getting a 4k scaler in the future from either Mike or PixelFX?

@OwtDaftUK

10 ай бұрын

I think the advantage of using both scalers is that you get a better end result as the HDMI mod elimates noise. Personally i'd rather just have the one scaler that works with all systems and if the console breaks your not as buggered.

I'm glad you addressed the recent controversy around the team and the needless banter against Mike Chi (and now Voultar, though opinion on him in particular is more divided.) I've been really wanting this myself for a very long time, and it looks fantastic from what's been shown here in your video.. but its hard for me to morally support the product if this is how PixelFX is choosing to act.. that alongside the "Shiny" edition locking out certain features that people would really want. (Though I've come to 'understand' their reasoning.)

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

It’s a tough spot for sure

@Decenium

10 ай бұрын

RetroTINK-4k then?

@bricewgilbert

10 ай бұрын

Voultar is not a nice person so that part tracks.

@Voultar

10 ай бұрын

Exactly right, @@bricewgilbert. PS: Say hi to your mom for me.

@beanburritobike

10 ай бұрын

@@bricewgilbert I've personally had a bad experience and totally agree, he thinks he's hot shit.

Very glad that you addressed the Mike Chi situation. Great review.

@izekg5820

10 ай бұрын

Yep I was like 🙌 at that part.

PS2 Comp definitely has a nasty shift to green. Both my NTSC and NTSCJ consoles do it to different degrees.

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Glad it’s not just me!!!

@Celician83

10 ай бұрын

For what it's worth, with my NES setup (NES-retrotinik2x Pro-EVGA XR-1 lite) the capture side has a shift to yellow, but the pass through looks fine. And, that shift is absolutely impossible to get out of the game without introducing a ton of video lag/audio desync. I've narrowed that down to the EVGA Capture card, but since all I have is basic Windows Camera controls to try and correct it without filters in OBS, I've pretty much learned to live with it, and just hate it.

Thank you so much for this video, EposVox. It was really informative and helpful. I just have one question regarding disc-based region unlocking. The PS1Digital made by the same team has built in PSNEE support to also make the ps1 consoles region free for disc-based games, removing the need to also install a separate modchip in ps1 consoles with the ps1digital. Does the retrogem similarly have PSNEE support or equivalent to also make any ps2 it's installed in region free for pal and ntsc disc games? Thank you again for the fantastic video!

Pretty cool stuff. Kinda would like to see them do installation service for it. but i think i will stick to PCSX2.

PS2 was my first exposure to a proper gaming console - I had a knockoff Famicom and nothing afterwards until a game store nearby was showcasing PS2 with all the glorious 3D graphics on their counter. Never had it, though.

Very nice to see my favorite console getting more love. This is the 2nd video I have seen about this mod . I would like to see the anti aliasing feature please. Upscaling and smoothing really brings the 'old boy' into a modern feel. Well in my opinion .

Hey 1 question, can u change on obs configure video sharpness on magewell ?? its possible ? and can u recomended magewell 4k+ or elgato hd60x ?

I definitely could understand why someone would want this. But the quality only seems slightly better than running it through a retrotink. Which is more cost effective if you have multiple consoles. But if you can a CRT is the best way to exspirence retro gaming.

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I mean the choice has always been between HDMI modding one or two consoles or just getting a scaler

From what I understand the color shift and noise in the component video is due to failing capacitors in the PSU. Replace the PSU with RePS2 and it looks perfect.

@maxbreaker888

8 ай бұрын

My PAL fat PS2 had a little noise on CRT with HD retrovision cable and some color shift. You can notice it with character eyes and white color text. I cleaned it, replaced the PSU with RePS2, got a decent 12V 5A external PSU and the results were amazing.

I have got a 24” Hisense roku tv and I want to play Svr 2006 but do I need a converter or upscaler since it’s a small modern oled tv? Because I want to play full widescreen that is why.

I bought the upgrade to shiny. but how do you get it onto the console? There were no instructions?

I'm curious to see what it looks like on a VGA CRT with the motion adaptive deinterlacing

is a hdmi mod equal in output video quality then emulation with the same resolution?

5:40 Question: If you're downscaling the post-*re*-squished 4:3 source (to record @1080p) is the quality loss still very noticable?

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Most likely not

You answered the 1 question I had: can the composite out still work with the HDMI mini plugged in, so that I can Capture from the HDMI while playing on my CRT. Yes, yes it does. Thank You!

When you bought this retro gem - universal hdmi upscaler kit on the website are you buying the console with the kit or is it just the kit no console

3 of the 4 games that are 1080i are really good games. You just need the NTSC versions. So you totally are missing something. They are not true 1080i but they look better than 480p. There is also games that can be forced into higher resolutions, but that's a very messy subject.

@mandibiedermann2246

5 ай бұрын

Only two, Valkyrie Profile doesn't have 1080i, is just a urban legend

I wish y'all would get more PS1 footage and some more colorful PS2 games to show this off, interested in this

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

That’s what future coverage is for! I captured like 500GB of footage, could only fit so much in a video. I’ll be streaming trying different games throughout the week

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

(But also PS1 HDMI already existed so this is just focused primarily on PS2 heh)

@samuraispiritsx

10 ай бұрын

@@EposVox can't wait to see it

It looks and sounds great. I don’t mind the tiered structure of their pricing. However, I’m skipping it due to their internet drama. They are being extremely immature about it all. If they can’t see that and want to keep doubling down they can, but that’s just pushing me away from all their products whereas before I was just going to skip the morph. I’d rather not support people who ridicule their peers.

My man. When someone calls PS2 the best console, I absolutely agree.

@WololoWololo2

8 ай бұрын

PS3 is best console it can run PS2 games.

@EposVox

8 ай бұрын

Some PS3s can run some PS2 games, and mostly poorly.

@RuruFIN

8 ай бұрын

@@EposVox not mine. Fat 80GB PAL model where they removed the emulation. Luckily I got my (probably fifth) fat PS2 cheap and I have a HDD on it as well.

So wait, if you arent using a capture card does 1440p and the 1200p work fine?

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

If you have displays that support that, sure. 1920x1200 is 16:10 so it doesn’t make sense to use on 16:9 displays. Older TVs that are more rigid in standards probably won’t play nice with the 4:3 1920x1440, but newer 1440p monitors and most modern 4K TVs should handle it fine

Is having the PS2 output via Retro Gem or Retro Tink a better experience than using a backwards compatible PS3 fat?

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Yes

@donhonk

10 ай бұрын

@@EposVoxWeird idea, could you do a ps3 BC lag test sometime? It feels jank to me but I don’t have equipment to test that

First purchase I made with my first paycheck in the USMC? Tattoo? Nope. Car? Nope. Sword? Nope. Cellphone? Nope. PS2, brand new, first release. That and a DVD of Final Fantasy Spirits Within.

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Hell yeah!!!

@caivsivlivs

10 ай бұрын

do a lot of marines buy swords with their first check?

@Jaxxonian123

8 ай бұрын

@@caivsivlivs I didn't...Lol I purchased the Resident Evil 4 Red SteelBook edition for the GameCube, I still have sitting on my shelf! Also a bottle of Chrome Azzaro Cologne. The current version is watered down. It was much better 15-20 years ago. Oh, and always capitalize the "m" in Marines...Lol.

What's the difference wbetween this an a backwards compatrible PS3?

What is that HDD mount and adaptor @ 12:19 ?? :-)

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Just a basic 2.5" to 3.5" adapter. $12 on Amazon - geni.us/rA8pb3

@MrBlank0

10 ай бұрын

Ah... SATA -> SATA. Was hoping for an IDE adaptor so I can get my network connection back. Thanks! @@EposVox

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Oh! Sorry, yeah you can grab these converter kits for your network adapter geni.us/reVz11

Yeah imma need this 😁

FYI 2:20 is wrong. That's not Bob that's Weave. Weave has combing, Bob has flicker.

i want composite dithering filter.

I use pcsx2 emulator on PC with ps2 controller, it emulated the games at 1440P which looks amazing..

Where to buy that cool PlayStation neon sign?

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Doubt you can. This was in the window of the game shop I went to as a kid, got it at a liquidation auction when they went under

I think going the other way is better. Windows 7/ CRTEMU drivers and a compatable video card. VGA to Scart converter into component into a CRT tv. Basically my arcade machine setup. Native resolution 1 to 1. Best way to authentically replicate the good ole days!

@mrburns366

10 ай бұрын

I go that route for arcade and retro consoles pre PS1/N64. Everything N64 and newer looks better upscaled in the emulator. Pixel art looks best at native resolution but 3D graphics really shine with they're upscaled and output to modern display

Wait, can someone tell me what game was at 3:00? That clip just unlocked a core memory of playing at the dentist office as a kid lol

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

ATV Off-road Fury!

@jeremyzeeky3024

10 ай бұрын

@@EposVox Thank you!

@symphony137

10 ай бұрын

Your dentist office had a PS2? That's crazy!

This on a Playstation 2 Slim with the SSD mod would be epic...

9:17 you’re able to output analog and digital simultaneously??

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Yep

@gpbear4

10 ай бұрын

@@EposVox thats incredible. thanks, i havent seen this mentioned anywhere else. have you tried the GEM with GSM for games without deinterlaced modes? i have seen anyone mentioning that either. GSM also displays the game in its native resolution. afaik no PS2 game has a native resolution of 640x480. most ive seen are either 512x448 or 640x448

wouldnt component and tink 4k be a better solution?

@EposVox

5 ай бұрын

In just about every way! But at 7x the cost

For that price, I'll stay with my component cables on my 4k Tv. It looks quite good on my Tv. :P

This is pretty cool. Hey I know your busy but can you tell Avermedia (or Elgato) *Internal Display-port Capture Card Question Mark Dot Dot Dot* I now emphasis sentence by writing out or saying the punctuation. Thanks man. You have a good day. 🐢

have no interest in shiny edition when i can run the base model through the retrotink 4k when that arrives

@moontecker

10 ай бұрын

I am thinking instead just get Retrotink 4K

Ouch...at the cost of the optical out...thats a hard sale. If it replaced the AV port that its...replacing, It'd be an instant buy...but I like and use the optical port. Does the Dolby setting support the HDMI mini? Id hate to think I have to sacrifice sound for image. That plus needing to replace my stereo to support hdmi sound, the mini adapters..... ....naw, Ill wait for the next version and suffer 480i/p. Also I agree with the forced progressive mode.

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

You can apparently put it wherever if you’re doing the mod yourself

@bjordan429

10 ай бұрын

@@EposVox So i could drill another hole if I'm comfortable with it? That changes things. Thanks for the reply!!

locking 1440p behind a paywall is an absolute joke.

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Spoilers: the whole product is locked behind a paywall

@joefuentes2977

8 ай бұрын

Should be cool to have a mod for your mod though. It'll come out soon

@GatchamanG4

5 ай бұрын

Yep

@destruxandexploze2552

3 ай бұрын

@@EposVoxYes and then it’s $70 extra for that 1440p $189 vs $119 just for a couple options is a lot

The NES?

Loved the video, but the camera auto focus was killing me.

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, switched lenses and had aperture open too wide. Won’t be that way in the next one

Try using the mclassic with thus

dam premodded dchdmi dreamcast for 375 in 2019 lol nice

Great video but now I have to get a ps2 again.

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

That’s a good thing

@shaneneyome

10 ай бұрын

@EposVox ya you right haha.

❤

Worth noting that @ 2:14 you're showing Weave and not Bob deinterlacing.

Title: The Best Game Console EVER. My Brain: Better be the PS2.

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Person of culture, I see

I can't even imagine spending this kind of money and going to this much trouble just to get an ugly, low res image on a modern TV.. but hey, whatever tickles your pickle. lol

This or Retrotink 5x?

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

If you only care about PS2, this. If you want other systems? RetroTINK 5X or wait for the RetroTINK 4K/Morph 4K.

Hey, i am willing to PAY someone pretty well to let me ship my PS2 to them with a retro gem, and they can install it for me and ship it back. I love the PS2 so much, but i am so technologically inept I know I will mess up the installation process. If anyone reading this comment is interested lmk. Thank you :)

*LG DUAL UP monitor's 2560x2880 enters the chat*

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

I want it so bad

@kiyoshimatsutsuyu1931

10 ай бұрын

@@EposVox I have 2, trust me, get it!

I don't think anything on the PS2 will make the game look any better besides running them on a good CRT/PVM monitor or from an emulator on the PC.

@EposVox

5 ай бұрын

This is about making it look better on modern displays...

The best game console is OBVIOUSLY the Dreamcast.

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

hah

@cesarsilva2282

10 ай бұрын

I like the Wii

@SianaGearz

10 ай бұрын

@@cesarsilva2282 Oh yeah it's a great system, with lots of weird titles on it. Especially since it natively plays Gamecube titles as well, so you just add those two libraries together.

*by accident. 😉

Came here to see what happened to the Sega Saturn and left disappointed. Shame.

by accident

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

It was definitely on purpose

the retro gem is too much for just the 1 console, i leant towards the retrotink 5X which will do them all. For the console collectors of us the 5X is the better value

this video in spanish please!!!!!

This over fat PS3?

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

This by a long shot. PS3 PS2 emulation is blurry and meh, and maintaining those systems is messy

@MrBlank0

10 ай бұрын

I think a PS2 analog output using a sacaler does a way better job than the PS3 Phat.

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

Very true!

wayy too expensive

Nah

mod a ps3 and play ps2 games.

@EposVox

10 ай бұрын

PS3's PS2 output is garbage.

also when HDMI gets replaced by the next standard you’re going to regret deflowering a factory original console. just emulate if you must force the matter.

Found it but like seriously pin on ur short..... save us ⏲️ ⏳️