I think Wario's Woods is great, especially the SNES version, imo Game and Wario might count as a bad spin-off? I think it's a spin-off anyway.

@alexandertkachenko1432

2 жыл бұрын

Wario woods is great. It doesn’t deserve to be worst for warios games.

Uh, Copycat? Starfox Adventures is not a spinoff, despite it having a drastic change of gameplay. It's canon to the Starfox universe, as the character introduced there, Krystal, would appear again in titles after it

@Copycat_YT

2 жыл бұрын

I do understand that but a very large portion of the game was finished without it even being thought as a star fox series title, only reason I added it

@maxwelllingafelter2373

2 жыл бұрын

I agree that it's not a spinoff, but canonicity isn't what defines that. Canvas Curse, Mass Attack, Epic Yarn, and Rainbow Curse are all Kirby spinoffs, but most people consider them canon. Same with the Mario and Luigi series and the two Zelda Four Swords games

Nah, I think you've got it wrong on Wario's Woods. I don't disagree with the levels you show being boring, because the early levels are. Once you get to the 40s, the difficulty ramps up and creates a lot of tension. It's not ground breaking compared to Tetris, Dr. Mario, or Puyo Puyo. But it is different enough and actually holds up today without nostalgia.

"pokemon masters is impossible to play without paying" Me, who's sunk 0 dollars into the game and is succesfully tackling its endgame difficulty content after casually playing for a month and a half: sure, jan

Mario Pinball is INSANELY difficult, I'm blown away he called it easy ahaha

@johannesboomsma4680

2 жыл бұрын

He probably didn't make it through the beginning or just saw everyone say it was bad, and just went with it

This is exactly what I was waiting for thank you

Sadly, Mario RPG is not on switch online

@Copycat_YT

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah my bad I got confused with the Wii u virtual console, I think that’s where I played it

@jacobthompson4444

2 жыл бұрын

😭 for a second I got so excited to play this on the Switch...

@davidpaine459

2 жыл бұрын

It’s on SNES Classic mini

@cocoz1034

2 жыл бұрын

Its on snes9x

C’mon man. Nice video, but I was so sad when you didn’t mention the Pokémon mystery dungeon games. Most of them where decent, but explorers of sky/time/darkness is one of my favorite games for the story alone. Really fun dungeon exploration mechanics is definitely a bonus though. Seriously if you haven’t heard about them I implore you to play the second game in the series. Each game has a different story so it doesn’t matter if you skip to the second.

Another banger franchise video, Great work! I completely agree with Mario Maker as its one of my favorites.

Great video, I know these require lots of work but I would have liked to see a runner up or two. Federation force gets too much hate it wasn't actually bad and I don't count mario run so would likrd to have seen another option there as well

Thanks so much for making this.

how are you saying mario rpg is underrated... it was universally loved at the time and even now as well it's super popular

Pokemon Masters EX is really great, we got new hard challenges and also got new f2p characters which are very useful

@artsapple1324

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you

Gonna have to disagree with you on Wario's Woods....I got addicted to that game during quarantine on the NES Switch Online and I couldn't rest till I finished it. It's very underrated. Overall enjoyed this video though! Keep up the great work.

FEH is a great game for a mobile game if you're a fan of all/most FE games, since you can be FTP and have a great time.

For the worst Pokemon spin-offs, I personally think Hey you pikachu is one of the worst, since its basically unplayable if you have a deep voice

@GarlyleWilds

2 жыл бұрын

HYP might be a neat idea but yeah, there's a host of technical issues and also so little to _do_ in it that as cool as the idea was, it has aged into trash

@Chelaxim

2 жыл бұрын

Pokemon Dash ruins your DS.

Actually Samus does apears in Federation Force, it's incredible important to the story (and possibly the future of the saga) and the game is somewhat fun with friends, but to be honest I don't blame anyone for saying the game is bad, people who also didn't played it get pretty upset when someone praise this game even a little.

I'm surprised Link's crossbow training and Hyrule warriors weren't mentioned. They are really fun and I love these games! They are also incredibly unique

@aiseop

11 ай бұрын

Exactly! Cadence of Hyrule sucks compared to those.

FINALLY someone else who hates Masters. I loathe battling mechanics and obtaining trainers is such a hassle

Four Swords Adventures is a Main Game no?

Honestly the spin off Mario titles might be better than most of the mainline series. Also I’m pretty sure that Four Swords Adventures is a mainline game in the Zelda series.

Doesn't talk about links crossbow training, me: disappointed

It’s been SIX years since Pokémon go?!! WTF???

Sticker Star, Pokemon Masters, Fire Emblem Heroes, Four Sword Adventures, and Federation Force are all really good games, though. Obviously, you had to go with Federation Force as the worst one, since there are only two spinoffs in the entire franchise, but you could have at least talked about the good parts of it instead of harping on the fact that people disliked it, which they only did because it was different, not because it was bad. Four Sword Adventures is also a really good game. Sure, the multiplayer was expensive, but you can play it and really enjoy it in single player, which was my first experience with the Zelda franchise as a whole. Plus, you could have talked about things like Link's Crossbow Training and the CDi games, which are almost universally hated. Also, I would disagree with Star Fox Adventures being the best Star Fox spinoff simply because I consider a mainline entry. Aside from those, though, I either agree with the placement of or haven't played all of the games on this list

@Lar_me

2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to disagree about Sticker Star being "really good." The first three games are really good, but Sticker Star is just OK with a few good parts.

@777Plushy

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lar_me and then there's Color Splash...

@seansquiers6506

2 жыл бұрын

Specifically about Federation Force. Let me ask you this, if a game entirely changes the core of the franchise it is in and excludes its iconic protagonist, can it truly be considered "really good"? (Not even a big Metroid fan, can just see that if I didn't know Federation Force was a Metroid game, I would not think it's a Metroid game with my outsider knowledge, whereas Metroid pinball has things that are ironic to the franchise to a point that even I can tell it is a game within the Metroid franchise.) Different doesn't inherently mean bad. That is correct. But changing the identity of a franchise that hasn't seen an entry in many years? Federation Force didn't even need to be called a Metroid game.

@Ruizon1

2 жыл бұрын

@@seansquiers6506 You are missing the point entirely. He is saying that the game, as it is, is really good... Not a good Metroid game but a really good game in general. Federation Force isn't a bad game for the genre it fits into. It isn't a Metroid game in any way but if it had sold without that name it probably would have sold better simply because it wouldn't have put Metroid fans on the defensive.

@maxwelllingafelter2373

2 жыл бұрын

@@seansquiers6506 Considering that’s exactly what happened with Luigi’s Mansion, I would say that yes, a game can be considered really good when it changes up the formula and removes the iconic protagonist (who is still in Federation Force, you just don’t play as her)

Lol, we will be here all day if we talk about Mario spin-offs. XD I’m surprised Pokemon Dash dodged the worst list for Pokemon. Great video.

wait… how can I play Mario RPG on switch? It’s not on the online library

@jacobthompson4444

2 жыл бұрын

It's not. He confused the Switch online library with the Wii-U virtual console. It was available there.

My top 3 pokemon spin off series: mystery dungeon, ranger and conquest

I consider Pokemon Shuffle to also be among the worst spinoff entries.

In A Little Mario Spinoff The Background Reminds Me Of The SMW Underground Background

I will not hear any Wario's Woods slander! That game is still crazy addicting and in the upper eschelon of puzzle games. I'd kill for a new one or at least for Nintendo to acknowledge the superior SNES version exists.

All my Disagreements. 1: Star Fox Guard 2: Wario’s Woods 3: Yoshi 4: Pokémon Masters 5: Pokémon Quest

I thought i'd mention this when you said that Samus wasn't anywhere in federation force. Assuming you haven't played the game fully Samus does in fact actually appear in the game though not playable (course there was a samus skin you were able to use through her amiibo) I'm just going to go ahead a spoil it sense you can no longer play online (its pretty dead now) Samus was the final boss.

@supercamborg4218

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt he played several of these games for more than a few minutes, if at all

For the Legend of Zelda series, I enjoyed playing Four Swords Adventures. I only played alone without having to use a Game Boy Advance. I don't like Cadence of Hyrule since it is an Indie game and does not deserve to be an actual Zelda game. For Metroid, I feel bad about Metroid Prime Federation Force. It does feature Samus but as a non-playable character. As for Fire Emblem, I had a lot of fun playing Fire Emblem Heroes. It is one of the best mobile games I ever played.

Mario pinball went hard man

"The only other game I feel compelled to mention is Super Mario RPG" Not Mario Kart? Ok.....

@Gordonjamesheneryproductions

2 жыл бұрын

Paper Mario 64 in Paper Mario the Thousand-Year Door hey you forgot about that

I enjoy both yoshi and warios woods. Warios woods is a better game tho. I have very little desire to go back to Yoshi. But warios woods sounds like a fun way to kill 30 minutes. Maybe an hour if I'm in the right mood. I have played warios woods btw. It's genuinely fun once you get the hang of it.

@strawhatmonty22897

2 жыл бұрын

Also I never heard of the Kirby brick breaker thing but I quite enjoy brick breaker and anything that puts any kinda spin on that is much appreciated. Unless it sucks. It didn't look bad tho. Maybe unoriginal but brick breaker with a Kirby skin unoriginal or not sounds like a good time. Even if it's short

I feel like including mobile games on these lists is a cop out.

@Copycat_YT

2 жыл бұрын

Nintendo counts them as legit games so I must too

1:57 I think Geno fans should be vouching for this more than for SSB, as maybe it can help them get Geno in(?)

4:06 Oh the pun!

The pokèmon mystery dungeon games are my favorite spinoff games in the series

I don't care what you say about Wario's woods and Kirby's block ball. Now I do agree that the other spin-offs from Kirby are better than Kirby's block Ball but I still enjoyed Kirby's block ball playing it on the super game boy back in the day. As for wario's woods I actually never played it back when it first came out. My first experience with it was downloading it on the Wii virtual console and actually I still play it nowadays on the NES online service on switch and enjoy it quite a lot. It gets really challenging the further you get into the game. Those enemies that you can only kill diagonally which my friends and I would call diagonal b****** just for fun really spiced up the challenge even in multiplayer. I do wish that on the SNES online service on switch I can play well the SNES version of this game instead of the NES version though. And as for Yoshi's cookie I absolutely do love that game a whole lot and the SNES version is easily the best, but it seems that Nintendo never re-releases that one. The puzzle game called Yoshi I actually do find a lot of fun to play, but yeah I do agree it's actually pretty flawed.

@cadecastro7624

2 жыл бұрын

Who?

@Sly88Frye

2 жыл бұрын

@@cadecastro7624 What kind of reply is that?

Pokémon Conquest is the best Pokémon crossover, and I do love Pokémon snap as well. Deserved a mention at least.

@Quortezz3

2 жыл бұрын

It's a crossover, so if there is/will be a list on that it should be there (i think there was but cant remember if it was this channel) but still somewhat counts as a spin-off.

9:19 Star Fox Adventures is a mainline Star Fox game not a spin-off.

Star Fox: Guard isn't really a bad experience. Rather, it's a much better experience than the flat-out broken Star Fox: Zero, as it's at least playable and intuitive. Still, in this franchise you really only have two games to work with in this category (one, depending on what you count Adventures as), and they're not overly great or terrible.

My favorite spin-offs are yoshi’s cookie and Kirby’s Pinball land

"Amazing" *shows pmd* yes. *likes the video*

Mario Tennis Ultra Smash exists

Is it me or does Pokemon Quest look like a spiritual successor to Pokemon Rumble?

The worst Donkey Kong game should have been Diddy Kong Racing DS. With Pokémon, I think most users would consider Dash or Channel worse than Masters. I think the 3 Japanese dungeon games were the worst.

No Mario game pissed me off more as a kid than Mario Pinball Land

My favorite Pkmn spin off is puzzle league

Let’s be real Paper Mario peak

wait, since when was super mario RPG on the switch's SNES online?! for I don't remember such being added at all, which sucks, as it's the last game we truly need, as it's a blast to play, and more needs to experience mario's start into the RPG stuff!

@TundieRice

2 жыл бұрын

He’s totally wrong about it being on Switch Online. I was so excited when he said that but I just checked and I’m extremely disappointed that it’s not on there.

@cyrilfiggus557

2 жыл бұрын

He lost a lot of my respect for not fact checking this

@kidomaruking35

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyrilfiggus557 im sure he got it confused with the 3ds and wii u

@mingjiechen62

2 жыл бұрын

@@kidomaruking35 Yes

I thought that 4 swords adventure is main series the whole time

Best Mario spin-off imo: super strikers for the GameCube, we always had to have a rule for no super team Best Pokémon spin-off imo: xd gales of darkness.

There is so many good spin-offs in Nintendo’s history.Also DK jr math break rule 1 of video games do not add math and reading to video games.The music is so is bad plus it is is annoying,and the graphics are horrible.Why is there a game just called Yoishi it makes no sense but there is a Yoshi is there.I feel Kirby canvice curse and Kirby and the ranbow curse are spin-offs so why not.Should Kirby block ball 🏀 even be a game.

Ayo! Just a heads up. Your bias against Wario's Woods just cost you some subscribers. Have a good day 👌

@Copycat_YT

2 жыл бұрын

Hey just a personal opinion but that’s fine cause it’s your opinion too to unsub! All good

@leeeroyjenkins555

2 жыл бұрын

@@Copycat_YT Our opinion.

Does other M count as a spinoff?

Surprised Mario is Missing wasn’t the choice.

1:21 Why are you putting some shitty Little Timmy level right when you say “Ingenious designs.”?

super mario rpg is not on nintendo switch online, although i wish it was. :(

why did you say mario rpg was on snes online i got my hopes up and it wasn't

YALL am i the only one that absolutely loved paper Mario sticker star😭

@cyanryann64

Жыл бұрын

Nah bro you down bad for that straight garbage

Listen, I don't care what anybody says, Wario's Woods is Fire!!! Furthest thing from boring. I actually wish it got a sequel or HD remake

i sorta think sticker star btw

I used to really like Mario's Pinball Land

You always forget small series like pikmin and splatoon ect

He turned himself into a golf ball, yes. But did he turn himself into a pickle?

Pikmin got left out again 😥😥😥😭

I could be wrong but I don't think Mario rpg is on snes online

Mario RPG is not on the switch online library! Please correct yet another error... I'm noticing more and more errors in your videos and it needs to be fixed. Mario RPG was released once, outside of its original release, on one of the virtual consoles (not sure which one) otherwise there is no legal way to play it!

@Chelaxim

2 жыл бұрын

It's on the Wii U (and New 3DS) Virtual Consoles.

Are the CD-I games not spin-offs?

@Chelaxim

2 жыл бұрын

Ironically Four Swords Adventures is NOT a spinoff.

Nah bro, Fire Emblem Heroes is a great game, although there’s people who actually spend money on the game. One thing about it is the characters, and making our own team with your favorite FE characters. That is what it makes it a fun game.

You can't get Super Mario RPG on the NSO SNES Library.....

1:48 why

Wario’s Woods is amazing, what are you talking about? You make it sound like you’ve never played it, same as a lot of games in this video

Just wanted to say that I don't think mario rpg is on snes switch online

The Hyrule Warriors games are so good, why did you not mention it? They are so much better than that necrodancer game, which doesn't even feel like a Zelda game. You can play as all your favorite characters from the Zelda games, and you're telling me that some game where the main protagonist isn't even Link and you have to attack on a music beat is better than a hack and slash game with an actual story, where you can play as all the characters from the great 3d Zelda games? Even the music is better in Hyrule Warriors, and it isn't even centered on that! Also, news flash: Four Swords isn't a spinoff game. Revise your list, please.

Why didn’t you mention any of the CDI games when it came to the worst Mario and Zelda spinoffs?

@Copycat_YT

2 жыл бұрын

I wanted to keep it in the Nintendo console family

@supercamborg4218

2 жыл бұрын

@@Copycat_YT then why did you include mobile games? Outside of the ones that are also on Switch that’s not keeping it in the Nintendo console family

@Copycat_YT

2 жыл бұрын

@@supercamborg4218 they are made by Nintendo and counted as real games by them, they don’t include the CDI titles as canon

@supercamborg4218

2 жыл бұрын

@@Copycat_YT then you should say that you’re sticking to games made by Nintendo, instead of incorrectly saying you’re sticking to games on Nintendo systems

When you think of Kirby spinoffs how can you not mention Epic Yarn? Air ride is fun but Epic Yarn is so good! Definitely better than the golf game at least.

Hi

Four Swords Adventures is not a spinoff.

Sm rpg lot7s,isnt on switch i just checked

The worst spinoff game ever in the Super Mario franchise is Mario Party Advance.

Pokemon quest is good

Mario rpg id not on switch online

Super mario rpg legend of the 7 stars is not on switch online.

1:51 well thats a lie

Federation Force isn't a bad metroid game

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He said warios woods is bad

How dare you insult Mario Pinball Land

Fire emblem hero’s is not that bad

Pokémon go is the worst spinoff and it yet again became pay to win. Great 🙄

Yeah sorry but Pokemon Masters is actually a great game and its not really necessary you pay, at all

You needed Internet to shoot all 63 pokemon in n64 snap? You sir dissapoint me

Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Door is by far my favourite video game and the Oragami King was damn near offensive to me 😪😪

I think 💭 pokemon is very bad and paper mario is the best

@mingjiechen62

2 жыл бұрын

You know I like Paper Mario, my favorite Paper Mario game is probably Super Paper Mario on the Wii

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@robynwolph3836

2 жыл бұрын

Highly unlikely.

Can I call Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl the worst spin-off games for Pokémon? 😑 Biggest disappointment of recent times together with Sword and Shield. Edit: I know BD / SP are not spin-offs but Bahamut-be-damned are they fucking cash-grab-bad. 🤦🏻‍♀️

@TheOscar0

2 жыл бұрын

Why

@zigazav1

2 жыл бұрын

Uh, it would not fit this list. PKMN BDSP are a remakes of Diamond and Pearl, it's not a spinoff. Those remakes seems to have the chibi art style, as a faithful nod to old Pokemon games, including Gen 4, where we had chibi sprites for overworld characters, as Gamefreak didn't yet have access to tech strong enough to do a full 3D Pokemon game at the time

@yodersitsgrandmagood1416

2 жыл бұрын

Not a spin-off though, there remakes of Diamond and Pearl.