The Beatles Song That Made Oasis's Sound
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If someone talked to me about how they thought Oasis just made blatant Beatles ripoff music, this Beatles song would come to mind first. But could it also be one of the best Beatles songs, if not rock songs, ever? We run and douse our heads in the Rain to find an answer.
(Oasis has some great records though, they're not ripoffs. except for that Coke lawsuit fiasco. that might have been a little bit of a ripoff)
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This is pathetic and completely shows you have no clue about Oasis or the Beatles and music
@themusicalinfluenceweb
17 күн бұрын
Nice try, Liam! We all know how much you love "Rain".
@llewellynGS1
17 күн бұрын
Wait… what? This was a great video
@KentonJoseph
17 күн бұрын
Never saw anything great about Oasis. Just parrots with lots of hype.
@bwebb90
17 күн бұрын
Just talking about influences, great music that inspires new great music. It's more pathetic to insult a whole 10 minute video with a single measly, unbacked comment.
@azm5548
16 күн бұрын
@@KentonJosephthey’re sound was unique and they had the songs and the vocals
Funny thing that oasis was initially called Rain
@nickcook7408
12 күн бұрын
A band from Manchester shouldn’t be called anything else
@mysteradio
11 күн бұрын
i just fact checked this for myself. ☝️
@barnishbar
10 күн бұрын
Rain was without Noel
@ericpedregosa1060
5 күн бұрын
is it the same Rain band that impersonate Beatles?
This song Rain, along with Hey Bulldog and old Brown Shoe are three of the most underrated Beatles tracks ever recorded.
@salmanrahman1290
16 күн бұрын
And ‘you know my name’
@Paisly17
16 күн бұрын
@@salmanrahman1290 and that also..
@gongandfriends
14 күн бұрын
Greaaaat tracks, solid comment
@pjdj
14 күн бұрын
“It’s All Too Much” as well.
@themusicalinfluenceweb
14 күн бұрын
@pjdj I think there's a video for that on this channel!
So cool they released the backing track at normal speed on the Revolver remaster. So tight and precise making the drum part even more impressive
@TheJayson8899
24 күн бұрын
Shame they stuffed it up since Paul didn't record the bass at that speed.
No Rain, no Oasis.
@philevans3257
17 күн бұрын
Sharp!
Tomorrow Never Knows too
@recipehacker9752
13 күн бұрын
And BLUEJAY WAY. Takes me back to that Mason, tripped out era. Love it.
Just learned that George didn’t play on Rain! John played lead according to Apple Music credits
@donaldlococo954
17 күн бұрын
The guitar sounds like John's strumming style.
@thomaspappalardo7589
16 күн бұрын
John played rhythm. There's two guitars playing.
@cisium1184
14 күн бұрын
Apple Music Credits is wrong. That's George on lead.
Made this connection myself a few years back and it seems like Blur, rivals of Oasis also took inspiration from a single Beatles song, Wild Honey Pie, sounds like so many blur songs. Maybe the Beatles are just so creative that they hit all these genres. Even chemical brothers sound like tomorrow never knows
@KariKauree
12 күн бұрын
Many Blur songs sound like Wild Honey Pie? You sure you got the right song title there?? 😅
Powerhouse of a song. Ringo and Paul really show how good they are on it
@strahljd
12 күн бұрын
Ringo has always said that Rain is his favorite performance on a Beatles song
@strahljd
12 күн бұрын
Ha, made my comment while halfway through the video, he mentions that it's Ringo's favorite towards the end
Also getting inspired by the Beatles is not a Bad thing at all
@Neil-pv8pw
14 күн бұрын
No it’s I am the walrus they made 8 albums of
Do one on how The Rutles got their sound.
Ringo's had about 70 years to sort out his technical problem. I'm glad he hasn't.
@themusicalinfluenceweb
17 күн бұрын
It's iconic!
"The band that made every band's sound" and its just the biggest Beatles anthology playlist
@themusicalinfluenceweb
11 күн бұрын
Video title is "How 'Blackbird' Influenced 'Oppa Gagnam Style"
Great video. Love your style man. Great inclusion with that Eongo clip. As a deummer myself I hadn't heard it and it opened up more of my understanding with how he plays. Started making essay videos myself. Who isnt these fays am I right? Ive been worling on mt next one that will be about John Lennon and my own connections to him and his music. Peace man.
kula shaker also "kinda" covered it whilst at a gig ..pretty beautifully
George Harrison didn't like the Band Oasis. He especially didn't like the guy who sang lead. This is what George Said: *Harrison found their music to be surface level when compared to the rich history of rock in England* *The music lacks depth, and the singer Liam is a pain, the rest of the band don't need him,” Harrison once said of Oasis*
@robertloader9826
18 күн бұрын
He was wrong.
@coffeesnob7600
18 күн бұрын
@@robertloader9826 He was right.
@fabiomanic6977
18 күн бұрын
that didn't stop him from sharing a heineken with the older brother and from schooling him on carl perkins and churry berry
@azm5548
16 күн бұрын
@@coffeesnob7600no he was wrong it’s like getting rid of Lennon
@Thomas-xs2kq
16 күн бұрын
How can you compare Lennon with Gallagher? 😂
Music can always be subjective but if you are a musician or sound producer this is the Holy Grail The drums are amazingly innovative, the big sound of the drop key that you could reach with tape, John intentional nasal vocal which sounds unique. No wonder Oasis got some influence
Great video! It's no secret Oasis drew on the Beatles for inspiration. They admit it a thousand times. They do not sound more like the Stones and the Smiths have nothing to do with their sound. Let Forever Be.
@themusicalinfluenceweb
16 күн бұрын
Is that a mother fucking Chemical Brothers reference? I love you CanYouDigItMan
Something else not mentioned. Rain and Paperback Rider were recorded shortly after the Beatles had a conversation with George Martin concerning the volume of Paul’s bass on their records. They said it was too low, it needed to be louder to compete with other groups of the time. He complied and out came Rain/PR. Paul’s bass parts on both songs created a sensation among bass players of the day (I know this because I was one of them!) and imitations of the style abounded on the radio. Also, the innovative and aggressive playing of Cream’s Jack Bruce at that time was undoubtedly the spark that lit that bonfire. Studio bass megastar Joe Osborn in LA must also be mentioned for his huge contribution playing on songs like Midnight Confessions, Bridge Over Troubled Water, and many others.
@musicboy2003
14 күн бұрын
Oops. Rain/PW, Lol!
@themusicalinfluenceweb
13 күн бұрын
Cool history! Speaking as as guitar player, Paul's bass performances on both are some of his most memorable to me. Also if we're talking about bass in 1966, I wonder if you were into Pet Sounds when it came out that year. Carol Kaye playing Brian Wilson's compositions is the greatest bass sound I've ever heard, absolutely legendary stuff to my ears.
Just found your channel really glad I did
Blows my mind this channel has only 499 subs...well I'm the 500th!
The Bongwater's version could easily be part of Grim Fandango's soundtrack. Amazing video man, great data! I've been a fan for over 20 years. Keep the videos!
the original fast version is in the deluxe boxset
@themusicalinfluenceweb
18 күн бұрын
I've heard it, I think somebody else pointed it out but it shows even more how awesome Ringo's performance is on the song
I agree that 'Rain' had a strong influence on Oasis, but have you also noticed the influence of The Rutles?! Seriously! Listen to 'Piggy In The Middle' or 'Cheese and Onions' !!
Noel has never denied the Beatles influence.
There is also a Stones 'B' side that is so like 'Rain' that it is unmistakable. Unfortunately, I cannot remember what it is called.
@garyjameswilson
17 күн бұрын
Wind
@FarrellCapper
17 күн бұрын
Child Of The Moon?
@drutgat2
17 күн бұрын
@@FarrellCapper Child Of The Moon! Exactly. Thank you, FarrellCapper. And I can now here it in my head, clear as a bell. Glad I am not the only one who thinks that sounds like 'Rain'.
@drutgat2
17 күн бұрын
@@garyjameswilson Thanks. Do you mean 'Wind Call'? If so, that does not sound like 'Rain' to me.
@Thomas-xs2kq
16 күн бұрын
Stones only have one singer.
Why couldn't this have a lot of views? I just can't understand 😵💫😵💫 this is such a great and interesting topic
Nice to see King Gizzard in your opening montage.
Good! First time I ever heard rain, back in the 90's I was impressed on how it sounded like Oasis. Completely agree. The second harmony sounds more like john instead of Paul though
The quote from Geoff Emerick there "The Beatles played the rhythm track really fast so that when the tape was played back at normal speed everything would be so much slower, changing the texture. If we'd recorded it at normal speed and then had to slow the tape down whenever we wanted to hear a playback it would have been much more work." _Literally_ makes no sense.
@cisium1184
14 күн бұрын
Sure it it does. The goal was for playback to sound slowed down and draggy. You can achieve that either by: 1) recording at normal tape speed and slowing it down for playback, or 2) recording at a faster tape speed and then dialing it back to normal speed. Because the key you're in at playback is the key you need to match the dubs to, it's easier record the backing track by method #2 because you lock into that key. Then you can record all your dubs at normal speed and you do not have to play around with them to get everything in tune. Then the only track you have to worry about is the lead vocal which is the oppose dynamic of the rhythm track: recorded on a slower speed and a lower key and then sped up to pitch.
I like Ringo's performance on Rain, but for me, he shined more on "She Said, She Said." That song sounds grungy.
@mikemcelroy3204
15 күн бұрын
Yes his drums on She Said, She Said are great too!
Great video, crazy how it doesnt have more views and likes. And I'm glad someone thinks the same about 'Up In The Sky'.
@themusicalinfluenceweb
14 күн бұрын
Brother this video went from
For the past 10 years I've had an Oasis Spotify playlist that starts with Rain.
I know. Don't ask about Green Day.
@sorrymomimfloppy7117
16 күн бұрын
Wym 🤣🤣🤣
Damn, a lot of haters in the comments. Haters gonna hate.
@themusicalinfluenceweb
17 күн бұрын
You said it, not me :D
Knew it was Rain without clicking on the video.
1st time I heard Oasis (live forever) they sounded like the band Bad finger (come & get it). To my ears anyway.
@aveenburney7463
14 күн бұрын
McCartney wrote come and get it for Badfinger finger
@bobbystereo936
13 күн бұрын
@@aveenburney7463 Yes I know, There's a whole video here somewhere on how they recorded it with Paul supervising them. He spead up the pitch of the vocals. I also always thought if the Beatles continued in the 70's, we would've gotten Oasis alot sooner.
The bassline sounds a lot like the Stones Roses
When four tracks produced amazing results. Why, complicate things?
Chorus of Right here right Now by Oasis ..."all you people right here right now... you know what I mean" has the same beat count as Beatles' Hey Jude ending.. la la la ....
Oasis members Greg Brent and Steven Krutt both tried out for the Beatles in 1985 when Paul was working on relainching the Band with Ringo. They signed NDAs that forced them to change their names in order to join any other bands, despite Paul and Ringo losing interest in moving forward with their Beatles 2 plans.
@themusicalinfluenceweb
9 күн бұрын
Interesting, I didn't know about this! Didn't even know about the attempted Beatles relaunch either but not surprised it went nowhere.
@bencatzilla
8 күн бұрын
so what were their names when they joined oasis? nothing comes up when i search their names w oasis
CRAZY that George Martin tried to claim credit for the backward vocals. I believe John
@elvisleeboy
18 күн бұрын
I think it's a mix. There is John's version, George's version and there is the truth somewhere in between. I think George Martin - the non-stoned one - edges it though.
@duffbaker9554
16 күн бұрын
And it's crazy that John tried to take so much credit for Eleanor Rigby despite everyone else who was there saying otherwise. I believe everyone else who was there.
@muchanadziko6378
16 күн бұрын
Why would you believe John over George Martin? Lennon is well known for bullshitting plenty about the Beatles history and just generally saying the first thing that comes into his mind without thinking
@timthatshim8037
12 күн бұрын
George Martin did a lot of that
Yes, very accurate! You nail it. Rain defines Oasis Sound on Definitely Maybe his best record. Also Wonderwall LP by George.
Listen to that new song by Liam and John Squires. It is "Rain"
How about Just Another Rainbow, John Squire (Stone Roses) and Liam just came out. RAIN-bow... wondeful stuff that.
I listened to an Oasis sample three times in my life. Each time I heard a fragment I could only think of the Beatles, who did everything better.
Bong water…Shoegazer ? Who the hell are those groups, lol. I’ve lived a bit, but missed the likes of them! Great post.
@themusicalinfluenceweb
13 күн бұрын
Ha, I'll admit Bongwater was also a new one for me when I made this. Shoegaze happens to be the greatest genre of music ever, if you want to explore a bit, the essential album is Loveless by My Bloody Valentine from 1991, legendary stuff.
Could it be I'm the walrus?
@matsfrommusic
19 күн бұрын
Nohoo I was wrong
Great vid
ringo was such a great drummer, he was so sporadic and it his drumming was the glue between everyone
Always thought Oasis had a Beatles vibe. Some artists more recently (last two decades) Lenny Kravitz and Robbie Williams used elements derivative of the Beatles cleverly integrated into their compositions in various songs. Yes the fab four have influenced so many. Oasis were fantastic IMO.
More like it made Liam's vocal style.
Тhat's more like how Tame Impala found its sound
The very second I saw the video title I said 'Rain' instantly.
good video great song i think the drums and fab bass add so much
Great video, nice work
Oasis nothing on the beatles. 😂
@BoynamedMagnus183
17 күн бұрын
You mean Oasis had nothing to do with the beatles
@azm5548
16 күн бұрын
Oasis > Beatles
@BoynamedMagnus183
16 күн бұрын
@@azm5548 Oasis is lightyears better than the beatles
@azm5548
16 күн бұрын
@@BoynamedMagnus183 agreed
@Thomas-xs2kq
16 күн бұрын
@@BoynamedMagnus183😂😂😂
Man! Of course Oasis are singing about rain. They're from Manchester.
I’m glad I found this channel
If you say….😅
The new song by Liam Gallagher and John Squire, Just Another Rainbow, sounds like The Beatles Rain
Great video; thanks for your work.
@themusicalinfluenceweb
17 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
There is no such key as G# major - I think you mean Ab major. (1 min 30)
@themusicalinfluenceweb
15 күн бұрын
Nope. Meant G# major
@TheKipperedOne
14 күн бұрын
@@themusicalinfluenceweb Perhaps you should brush up on your music theory. As I said, there is no such key. What would be the key signature be of G# major? It would need to be 8 shaprs, with only 7 notes!!!! What would be the leading note? Fx ? It doesn't exist as a key signature.
@themusicalinfluenceweb
14 күн бұрын
@@TheKipperedOne actually you are right. I didn't mean G# major, I meant A########### major
Funny how Oasis is completely forgotten now.
If you start making videos on a regular, this channel will do 100,000 subs inside 12 months. Book it.
@themusicalinfluenceweb
13 күн бұрын
We shall see! Thanks for the encouragement
Thanks for this!
I ALWAYS HEARD A JOHNNY ROTTEN FROM THE SEX PISTOLS INFLUENCE ON THE VOCALS MAINLY, HOWEVER I SEE WHERE YOUR’E COMING FROM
@themusicalinfluenceweb
17 күн бұрын
I HEAR IT TOO BOB
The same way Kevin Parker got the Tame Impala sound from No Quarter by Led Zeppelin
@themusicalinfluenceweb
13 күн бұрын
Which Tame Impala songs song like No Quarter?? I have never thought this personally
@antoniolucas98
13 күн бұрын
@@themusicalinfluenceweb the general sound of the two first albums, especially Lonerism
@themusicalinfluenceweb
13 күн бұрын
@@antoniolucas98 Innerspeaker is like 60s/70s psych rock and Lonerism is 70s psych and pop, both with Lennon vocals, I mean I'd get some Zeppelin comparison but specifically No Quarter, I don't know about that. Check out some early 70s German groups like Amon Duul and Can for a lot of Kevin's influence on those two albums
Bass was played by George Harrison. Paul was not in the studio. Thats why Paul hates this song
You discovered America !! It’s pretty obvious
@themusicalinfluenceweb
17 күн бұрын
??
Literally only one of Liam’s affectations but pretty cool nonetheless
@themusicalinfluenceweb
17 күн бұрын
Yes lol I was joking around with that part a bit I think. Looking back I'd probably include better Beatles-sounding examples if I made this today
She Says She Says is totally Oasis!!! 5:33 5:35
And they say the group 'tears for fears' are the sons of the beatles' 'I'm the walrus' !
@themusicalinfluenceweb
15 күн бұрын
Who says that?? I like them a lot and have never thought that, lol
For the Beatles it was just one song, for Oasis it's their complete career
It’s all Crowley
In the UK & Ireland Oasis are Gods
@themusicalinfluenceweb
9 күн бұрын
I know, I knew this when making the video so I was expecting a great response since I like Oasis too but I think about half of the comments on this video are other Brits shitting on them lol
Great video essay and some really good takes.
615th sub!
Oasis sound and look like buzzcocks live (also from Manchester ) up until tony the drummer left
Noel Gallagher also pinched it for this, mixing it with Ticket to ride and the drums from tomorrow never knows. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qaaHyZh-ftbdqdI.htmlsi=oqKhHQx9gX36_hpp
@themusicalinfluenceweb
16 күн бұрын
Pretty interesting. Between you and me, one of my future video ideas is regarding one of those things.
Oasis were and always will be Poundshop Beatles.
@p0llenp0ny
18 күн бұрын
Oasis are Temu Beatles.
@lifeisdead01
18 күн бұрын
Beatles from Wish
@azm5548
16 күн бұрын
They’re better than the Beatles
@Thomas-xs2kq
16 күн бұрын
@@azm5548😂😂😂
Or maybe they were both just British and high
John Lennon is singing the higher harmony over his own voice during the chorus section. I can clearly hear it.
@themusicalinfluenceweb
15 күн бұрын
Woah, I just relistened and listened to the isolated backing tracks and you might actually be right. I was completely certain that was Paul but the higher harmony does sound a lot like John. It's like the highest notes I've ever heard him hit (even though it's probably sped up and the pitch is artificially higher). It just always sounded like something more likely to be in Paul's range to me but the vocal fry is way more John.
Dude: "...only a B side?" - there is no shame in B sides. Write a song, you'll know this. There are thousands of "B" sides that effin' rock.
@mysteradio
11 күн бұрын
that's what he's trying to say: this B-side rocks!
@dennismason3740
10 күн бұрын
@@mysteradio ...so "only B sides" has a satiric reference. Got it. A bit of sarcasm perhaps. There are no hidden B sides in the "vinyl realm".
She Said She Said is better drummin
I think that the analysis is good, but something in the argument is missing. You just proved the way The Beatles created a sound. But the way you deduce that is the sound that inspire Oasis has a hole. You must show how Oasis got their sound and in what way that techniques influenced Oasis techniques. Just showing that Rain song might be similar to Oasis, does not prove your point.
Yup. I've always pinpointed this Beatles track as a clear inspiration for the Oasis sound. Weirdly, a lot of people I make this point to, don't seem to hear the similarity...
@themusicalinfluenceweb
18 күн бұрын
In my mind, the Beatles revivalism sound in the UK in the 90s is primarily Abbey Road/Let It Be era with influence from earlier songs like this one. Oasis specifically though sound like this song the most
UGH, THAT WAS NOT THEM AFTER 1966
@themusicalinfluenceweb
17 күн бұрын
See my video on It's All Too Much. They went there again in '67
@BasicLeigh
16 күн бұрын
@@themusicalinfluenceweb and you have not figured out why the changing of sounds and dress and facial hair and glasses???
Long live Blur!
@themusicalinfluenceweb
17 күн бұрын
Tracy Jaaaacckkkksss
One minute of any of the 300 or so songs these English lads did is enough for every single music maker since to get a career and loads of money 💰
cool video
Oasis does not sound like the Beatles by any stretch of the imagination.
@Wilding138
9 күн бұрын
Are you deaf? But no, really. That’s the only way this comment makes sense.
They wanted to be Lennon, they ended up more like Status Quo.
@azm5548
16 күн бұрын
Liam > John
What’s wrong with sounding like the Beatles I mean they are the best It’s like an insult to be compared to them. But if you sound like led zep you get championed 😂 Also oasis out sold most other bands when they where around, must of been the Beatles affect 😊
I don't hear it. Not only is "Rain" stylistically very different to Oasis' music (apart from having two guitars) but Oasis never recorded anything remotely as complex as this song. They played glorified bar rock...
I think theOasis Beatles thing is overdone.
The thing is all Oasis songs have a sound. They lack versatility
Well, that stripped down, 2 guitar style - basic chords with more overdrive/less heavy distortion, was the sound of Britpop - a sort of British grunge. One of the many trends The Beatles got to first. Although Rain obviously influenced Oasis, that’s just one song, and Oasis can’t realistically be compared to The Beatles in any other way. I’d generally compare them more with the Kinks - although nowhere near as good.
The Oasis sound came from number of influences, including Slade, T-Rex, Sex Pistols and contemporaries like Stone Roses and Teenage Fanclub. Gallagher included a few Beatles quotes and tributes in some songs but they were never found to have plagiarised them. They did however plagiarise the Rutles!
I have never heard anything by Oasis before, but I can definitely hear the obvious Beatle influence, a little too obvious.