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The Battle on the Ice 1242 AD
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Pskov; "Nuke them!" Polotsk; "It's 13th Century, you fool."
Whoever was behind the sound for the Mongol invasions, well done. I actually felt afraid seeing those red arrows and hearing those horns.
@LordBurgerofFriesland
6 жыл бұрын
blitzwaffe they're sounds and music from Total War Atilla, that game certainly gives you the immersion for when the huns are ransacking your provinces.
@Cancoillotteman
6 жыл бұрын
Total War Attilla... The one game where you hope to see your cities capatured or looted, just to avoid them being burned to the ground XD
@aramhalamech4204
5 жыл бұрын
@@Cancoillotteman I deinstalled the game after the huns in 9 of my 10 successfull fun-to-play campaigns started to turn western europe into a nuclear wasteland. Seriously who needs nuclear bombs when you have a stack of fucking horsearchers killing 90% of europes population?
@sosig6445
5 жыл бұрын
@@aramhalamech4204 you mean Huns...
@aramhalamech4204
5 жыл бұрын
@@sosig6445 yeah sorry
This time and region is criminally underrepresented in popular history. You have Europe's last pagans fighting German and Scandinavian knights fighting former Scandinavian vikings turned Orthodox Christian aristocrats fighting Mongols fighting Poles fighting still pagan Lithuanians fighting bears! What not to like about it?
@Fankas2000
6 жыл бұрын
There are no Americans or Brits in it. Plus eastern Europeans would have to be portrayed as the "good guys" and we can't have that in Hollywood.
@AndDiracisHisProphet
6 жыл бұрын
except when they are fighting nazis
@rockyblacksmith
6 жыл бұрын
Pretty much all slavic regions seem to be all but forgotten in general european history. I guess there's still residue of the old "those are just barbarians"-thinking.
@spartacus3111
6 жыл бұрын
Nothing important happened
@gunnerr8476
6 жыл бұрын
On the bright side, Peter the Great westernized and modernisation of Russia paid off.
That mongol horde looked bad ass and scary at the same time
@shahranmahmood3366
6 жыл бұрын
kareem hashimi more like a natural disaster than an army.
@user-gl6su3xi6s
6 жыл бұрын
Horde comes from word Urdu/Ordo. Meaning army. Turko-mongolic in origin. Turkish military's war college is called Urdu (college). In EU4 turkish infantry regiments are named something like "ordusu" Afghanistan's army is called afghan milli Urdu, afghan national army, State language of Pakistan is called Urdu, from "Urdu=i=Mu'alla' (High Urdu), language of the mughal officer class of mixed origins.
@comNartheus
6 жыл бұрын
It was just unstoppable for any of the Russian principalities or any nomadic tribes it met before. In a matter of fact Mongolian Empire just absorbed a vast nomadic population of Central Asian and what is now Southern Russian steppes. The only reason Mongol invasion did not come further to the Europe is that they simultaneously ran out of nomads to absorb (and recruit replacement for the fighting force from) and really good landscape to feed horses (well, those two factors are obviously connected). But since 14th century nd up to late 15th century Russians did not consider Mongols as an enemy at all. All the Russian military efforts were put to oppose Lithuania, Poland, Livonian Order and so on. Simply because it was doable and opposing Mongols was not.
@mehmetcetin2471
6 жыл бұрын
براہمداغ yes we called ordu=army ordusu=his army
@robleyusuf2566
5 жыл бұрын
@@comNartheus Nazarikov from Nazar more like Tatar surname not slavic
One of the most iconic battles in Russian history. Love it. :-)
@martinconway8174
6 жыл бұрын
Whats this? A crossover episode?
@KingsandGenerals
6 жыл бұрын
No, no, no, just commented as a viewer, there was no crossover. :-)
@fatpete7970
6 жыл бұрын
I like your videos better. They are more dynamic and entertaining.
@hazzmati
6 жыл бұрын
Hello again Kings&Generals good to see you here.
@eliasfrahat7074
6 жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals hallo :D
Very impressive beard for a 16 year old.
@DonMadruga72
6 жыл бұрын
its Russia! even Womans have beard!
@DonMadruga72
6 жыл бұрын
I do not know about American Women, I'm not Yankee, but I know there's only one female thing in Russia, the Name Russia.
@threestepssideways1202
6 жыл бұрын
No sir I must correct you; a very impressive 16 year old for a beard. Get hairy 1242/2017
@mr_Hal
6 жыл бұрын
Russian women has no beard, they hot
@ughh8099
6 жыл бұрын
It depends on your genetics some people have a mustache at 12 xD
This battle was portrayed in the 1938 film "Alexander Nevsky" by the extremely influential film maker, Sergei Eisenstein. The song used for the battle is also really great. "Battle on the Ice" by Sergei Prokofiev.
@Anaris10
6 жыл бұрын
Yes!..Saw it on PBS as a kid in the 70's.
@1Korlash
6 жыл бұрын
A very inaccurate portrayal, to be sure. Still a great work of cinema, and extremely effective Soviet propaganda.
@MendTheWorld
5 жыл бұрын
my only knowledge of this battle prior to watching this video was from the movie "Alexander Nevsky" directed by Sergei Eisenstein, with wonderful musical score by Sergei Prokofiev. I already knew the music before I ever saw the movie, because of my roommate second semester freshman year at Purdue University, who opened my eyes to an incredible diversity of wonderful music. He was a remarkable guy, and I'm so grateful to him). but then at the end of that year I transferred to the University of Michigan, which had a lot more opportunities for cultural experiences, including several film series, which showed classic films essentially every night of the week. This was how I was able finally to see Alexander Nevsky, which I saw multiple times. Alexander Nevsky had a lot of anti-christian imagery, as the prevailing communist government in the Soviet Union at the time the movie was made was trying to undermine the influence of the church (You know, religion being the opiate of the people, and all that). So during the Battle on the Ice, when the Teutonic Knights were in the process of being defeated, there were images of Christian crosses falling before Alexander Nevsky's sword. but the most memorable part of the film was when the Teutonic Knights and their horses were so heavy that they began to break through the ice and fall to their death by drowning. It was almost like an Act of God, except that it obviously couldn't have been the Christian God who was responsible. Perhaps it was the spirit of Karl Marx (although he would not be born for another 600 years). I don't know! In any case, I was stunned to get to the end of the present video with nary a mention of the Teutonic Knights breaking through the ice and drowning. What??!! Am I to understand that this is just a myth, like Pharaoh's army drowning in the Red Sea? Someone please tell me that this detail was simply omitted accidentally. And am I to suppose that there was no baby carriage careering down the Odessa steps during the mutiny of the Battleship Potemkin as well??!! In any case, I recommend Prokofiev's magnificent score to anyone.
@daviddura2923
5 жыл бұрын
@@MendTheWorld somewhere in a box I have the soundtrack on a cassette......It was outstanding music.....
@MemoryOfTheAncestors
4 жыл бұрын
@@MendTheWorld I don’t understand where you saw anti-Christian propaganda in the film, especially when you consider that at the end in the scene of triumph, Orthodox churches and Russian banners with Jesus Christ and Archangels shown there. Eisenstein's film is pure anti-fascist (anti-Nazi) propaganda, you can watch the swastika on the clothes of German bishops, and the helmets of German infantry are very similar to the helmets of Wehrmacht soldiers. The crusaders in the film are represented as typical pseudo religious invaders, for whom religion is just a cover for their predatory policies, they were dangerous cultural and existential threat of medieval Russia. Incidentally, the operation of Barbarossa was supported by many in Europe as a crusade against atheists and Jewish Bolsheviks, including by the Pope and Catholic church. And i’m not even talking about the inscriptions on the belts of Nazis soldiers "Gott mit Uns" (God is with us), which did not stop them from commiting their atrocities and crimes against the Soviet people and did not help them win. By and large, this film is not about the events of the medieval history of Russia, but about the events that will happen a little later, in 1941-1945. This is symbolic (and yes, in many respects, propagandistic) cinema, which foresaw further events. Therefore, the film itself can be perceived as a historical monument of the Great Patriotic War (World War II). P.S. In addition, I did not find any falling crosses from the sword of Alexander, there is only one scene with a Teutonic camp falling at the hands of militias, on the roof of which there was a cross. If you are talking about crosses depicted on the armor and shields of the crusaders, then all claims and questions to them, and not to Eisenstein.
Damn, that Mongol horde was scary. I hope you'll do a battle about them one of these days.
@alexanderbenkendorf688
6 жыл бұрын
Tyrranid invasion
@10madcap
6 жыл бұрын
Dothraki?
@EcuadorianFlagShip
6 жыл бұрын
Mongols were terrifying
@finiteenergy7155
6 жыл бұрын
Oblivion Almost every faction/people group spreads like a virus if given the opportunity, the mongols just did it the best.
@SocialistFinn1
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I legit felt scared watching that
"Nuke them." - Principality of Pskov
@oojaa2
6 жыл бұрын
Pskov managed to field only finnic chuds (setos). They were saying 'nukke', which would mean "puppet them". translate.google.com/#fi/en/nukke That would be fitting, because in 1240-41, Pskov was puppeted.
@kohtalainenalias
3 жыл бұрын
Wait! Vikings didn't have nukes! 🤯
@theoveranalyzingcinephile983
3 жыл бұрын
No MacArthur, it's not even the correct time period for that
@ggez182
3 жыл бұрын
@@kohtalainenalias ?
@sampokhan6067
3 жыл бұрын
@@kohtalainenalias ?
I am very glad to see an ad on the video, and also that you guys could find your self a sponsor. And great content ofc.
@hattiewhitson7736
6 жыл бұрын
jklahsd32 laksd13 never thought I’d be happy about ads, but in this case I concur.
I don't care who sponsors you as long as you make more awesome videos!
@horsearcher6852
6 жыл бұрын
we should cuz it give him money by making video and he will be happy cuz he get money and we happy cuz we see the video and might even be happy at the product they advertise too YAY!!! ps. i live in the world with sunshine and rainbow
@snakehead4213
6 жыл бұрын
I wish the gold was real
@CommissarMitch
6 жыл бұрын
I think Daniel Avidan said it best; "It's easy to call someone a sellout when you live with your parents and got everything figured out... Like... I got medicine bills, man."
@YaHussain3_1_3
6 жыл бұрын
386 Teutonians disliked this vid
@whateverismychanelvalue138
6 жыл бұрын
KirkSolo : ya
Your elocution, while always splendid, just reached a new pinnacle of excellence with how you said 'camping Swedes'.
@robertacrumplin6394
6 жыл бұрын
I know, right? The narrator really does speak beautifully.
@vinm300
6 жыл бұрын
3.47 get a load of how he pronounces "incorporated" . It's marvellous, although the "in" seems to get lost up his nose but the rest comes out well buttered.
@hattiewhitson7736
6 жыл бұрын
He speaks ansum enough, but to me sounds nz ish, not Received Pronunciation.
@amandasuttner3952
6 жыл бұрын
I believe it's mentioned in the other vids that he's South African. But totally agree, lovely voice to listen to
@hattiewhitson7736
6 жыл бұрын
Amanda Suttner thank you. I wonder how I managed to miss that? I ❤️ accents.
The mongol invasion scenes was far more scary than any horror film
Ah seasonal crusaders. Their migration is so beautiful and harrowing.
@alexanderringer7420
6 жыл бұрын
Erdenesaikhan Amarsaikhan And there you can find a crusader calling for its mate, as it is mating season. > The Camera turns to a Crusader in full chain mail armour screaming at the top of his lungs:"Deus Vult! Deus Vult!".
@Saikhnaaaaa
6 жыл бұрын
After hearing the passionate call of the young Teuton, the Livonian knight carefully inches his way towards him so as to ascertain his interest in purging heresy from Eastern Europe.
@alexanderringer7420
6 жыл бұрын
Khan of Khans Spotting the Livonian Knight and recognizing a mate, the Teuton strides towards the backside of its mate and whispers in its ear:"I heard you need help with pagans." This arouses the Livonian immensely.
@Saikhnaaaaa
6 жыл бұрын
The Teuton and the Livonian thus begin an elaborate mating ritual that involves penetrating the lands of heathens, delivering a deadly thrust to pagan power and the forceful conversion of local populations.
@alexanderringer7420
6 жыл бұрын
Khan of Khans Then they were rudely interrupted by Novogorodian Princes. The Teuton tries to attack but midway sets up camp giving the Novogorodians to easily send him back. The Livonian is in shock and rallies forces only to be vanquished by a raiding party 5,000 men strong.
“Nuke them” “It’s the 13th century” Had me dead
Speaking of the Mongols. Do some Genghis Khan battles.
@arawn1061
6 жыл бұрын
black ops hell Yea!
@chnb517
6 жыл бұрын
preach
@eastercompany
6 жыл бұрын
The mongols didn't document anything really, so all me know about them is what others wrote.
@maxmagnus777
6 жыл бұрын
and since they won the battles...
@10madcap
6 жыл бұрын
we are technically, genetically, a part of the mongol race since genghis eradicated the adult male population. And yeah, the winners write the history, and genghis is not in there really, except for the reputation, because he assimilated all of his tribes into other coutries cultures...and so we just dont really know HOW he did what he did. It would be difficult, for example, to find a modern homo sapiens without genghis khan genes. Anyone care to comment on the ''mongolian flap''?
5:04 - Pskov: Nuke them! Damn, that was pretty funny!
@samy_bfme5419
6 жыл бұрын
Cekachev It's 13th century you fool xD .
@deamonomic
4 жыл бұрын
Knew I'd find someone else who found it funny
@oliverludwig6148
4 жыл бұрын
@@deamonomic I didn't.
@deamonomic
4 жыл бұрын
@@oliverludwig6148 nothing wrong with not sharing the same sense of humor. We dont all need to find ot funny
These are bloody fantastic. The historical context you give in the years leading up to the battle and summary afterward are supremely good. As someone interested in both the politics of the region as well as the carnage, these videos hit the spot. Keep them coming!
In other parts of Europe, knights crush peasants In Novgorod, Russia *PEASANTS CRUSH KNIGHTS*
@russkayaimperiya5779
2 жыл бұрын
Novgorod had knights too, namely the Druzhina. It's just knights crush knights.
I come form Latvia it once was Livonian order. You could talk about the Battle of Sun battle where some Lithuanian tribes and Latvian tribes attacked the Livonian order
@RoberttheWise
6 жыл бұрын
3:08 I think this might be the Battle of Saule.
@karlis6702
6 жыл бұрын
Really butt if that's true they should have said that people of the Latvian tribes helped them out
@RoberttheWise
6 жыл бұрын
It might also not be the Battle of Saule and I am just mistaken. But the location kinda fits.
@karlis6702
6 жыл бұрын
Maybe😕
@10madcap
6 жыл бұрын
15.05 The local tribes (lithuan) formed a rebellion to expel the livonian order, 60 years befoe finally converting to christianity.
Would love to see few videos on Genghis Khan
@LukeGeoDude
6 жыл бұрын
You might like to check out Dan Carlin's "wrath of the Khan" - top quality content.
@darthveatay
6 жыл бұрын
Nikhil Patil the kings and generals channel has one
Every medieval battle ever: > heavy cavalry charge is effective but indecisive > the front line is surrounded > the reserves who could easily save the surrounded troops route
@Old_Guard2
4 жыл бұрын
Monsieur Pepe I know right? What gets me is the reserve force almost always chickens out when they could have been the decisive blow that could have ended the fight favorably
@stormyprawn
4 жыл бұрын
@@Old_Guard2 maybe they should put the worser troops in the front so the more experienced troops in reserve don't run away lol
@manumainio
4 жыл бұрын
It's just that these more dynamic battles are more interesting to make videos about. Most battles in the early medieval times end quite quickly if heavy cavalry is involved.
@Captain_Carrot
4 жыл бұрын
There are also the ones like Brunabruh or Maldon, where the two lines of infantry just slam into each other and after some time one of them emerges victorious.
I love how the Europeans quarrel with each other in their little wars while the Mongols show up once in a while as an unstoppable force of nature. Mongol military really was on a whole other level.
@elliott7706
3 жыл бұрын
The hordes were always a problem, ever since Cyrus the Great and before
@taskforceknight9336
3 жыл бұрын
Mongols were kicked out by russia
@liamjm9278
2 жыл бұрын
@EightFootSativa No it didn't. It separated after Möngke died.
@neonknight-1522
2 жыл бұрын
@@taskforceknight9336 they were very weakened when that happened
@gunarsmiezis9321
Жыл бұрын
To live on the step you must gain a culture in which you live to fight. Europian step nomads where just as fearsome as the asian ones if not more. The reason the mongols conquered so much so fast is because they did something that was never deone before or after, they united the tribes and brought the imense war power to bear against settled civilizations not each other.
Someone: Nuke em Someone else: Its 13th Century you fool LMAO
@ahmedibrahim9082
Жыл бұрын
LMAOOOO
I studied this stuff in school and several times in university, but never have I been able to comprehend these events in their entirety, untill your video. Yo make an excellent job of explaining history. In school books it's just like: "He went there and captured Koporye in so-and-so year. Than he captured Pskov in so-and-so year." But they have never showed us all the "why's" and even the simplest causality of these events. This 15 minute video have more educational value than a week of school curriculum. Thank you!
Stannis time!
@DJLR1066
6 жыл бұрын
Alex Cayrouse He will destroy those Bolton and Frey bastards!
@thearmada6248
6 жыл бұрын
THE MANNIS!
@p-ball_from_SEA
6 жыл бұрын
Night Lamp theory ftw!
@lordgregory9107
6 жыл бұрын
One Realm! One God! One King!
@HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG
6 жыл бұрын
Lannister will pay the price!
Today is the 780th anniversary of the Battle on the Ice!
The tactics that Alexander use against the Teutonic Knights was almost similar to the same tactics that the African Zulu use against the British at Isandlwana during the Zulu War, but the only difference is that the Zulu don’t use cavalry.
STANNIS! STANNIS! STANNIS!
@HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG
6 жыл бұрын
Simeon Monev Update & Hyped for this!
@HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG
6 жыл бұрын
“Whatever doubts his lords might nurse, the common men seemed to have faith in their king. Stannis had smashed Mance Rayder’s wildlings at the Wall and cleaned Asha and her ironborn out of Deepwood Motte; he was Robert’s brother, victor in a famous sea battle off Fair Isle, the man who had held Storm’s End all through Robert’s Rebellion. And he bore a hero’s sword, the enchanted blade Lightbringer, whose glow lit up the night.” - ADWD, Chapter 42, The King’s Prize What did ugly bastard of dreadfort know anything? The prince who was promised at ice wall.
@user-jw1eb9cy9d
6 жыл бұрын
#NightLamp
@duckboiii4441
4 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, the Mongols are the White Walkers, the Teutonic order is the Lannister Dynasty
@olgierdvoneverec3554
4 жыл бұрын
@@duckboiii4441 Wildlings: refugees from eastern Europe (escaping from White Walkers like Ruthenians and Balts from Mongols and German orders to Poland or Hungary) White Walkers: Mongols attacking every village or city on they road Stannis with his army: prince Aleksander and his army prepearing to fight with the Order Freys: Germans (And comparing great houses like Lannisters to some dynsties or orders is pointless because situation like Game of Thrones were in many countries in medieval if country was breakdown of the district)
Awesome battle, let's hope that Stannis' own "Battle on Ice" in Winds of Winter would have the same result against some other hevy armoured knights ;)
@mohi6699
Жыл бұрын
Its been 5 years, this comment is still relevant.
@elbruno3515
10 ай бұрын
I hoped to find a fellow man of culture. i succeeded. And yes it is already five long years ago …
Content, graphic and voice 30/10
"Nuke them!" Pskov council, 1242
10:47 no fort control zone smh
@taurinvandenbrand7574
6 жыл бұрын
this is not what eu4 has taught us
So the reason why Alexander chose that spot to pitch the battle was the tall cliffs on the eastern shore. The infantry was stationed right in front of them, so when the cavalry charge would break through, they'd have no room to turn around and reform the wedge for a second attack. Instead, they were surrounded on all sides.
14:21 The enemy flees the battle! Run down those worthless peasants!
@jangozubr
6 жыл бұрын
What a shamefur dispray!
@marvinbanzuela6336
6 жыл бұрын
Cowslippoetry what shall we do to the prisoners? 1. Release them (gain chivalry) 2. Ransom them (gain money) 3. Execute them (gain dread)
@ricomuru9486
5 жыл бұрын
The estonian auxilliarys didnt want to die for their occupiers and would have probably sided with the russians when given a choice
@dariusgreysun
5 жыл бұрын
My rord a grorious victory will soooon be youuurs!
@jangozubr
5 жыл бұрын
@@dariusgreysun Oh I see you are a man of high culture as well!
i understand and respect that you took a sponsor.
Historia Civilis and Baz Battles out at same time is a blessing
I learned about this a long time ago when I was at music school, and I bought a CD of Prokofiev's music because I loved Russian music. It had a recording of the soundtrack from "Alexander Nevsky.' I made the librarian go into the basement and dig the movie out using an old projector in a little room. :D I spent a lot of time reading about Russian history back then.
The next battle on ice is on Lake Onega between the Soviets vs. Die Wehrmacht during the Siege of Leningrad
@soakedmovie9231
6 жыл бұрын
Wehrmacht also raped and killed. Soviets did.it as a way of getting revenge on the Germans
@soakedmovie9231
6 жыл бұрын
Wanderer628 true dat
@gamerdude1987
6 жыл бұрын
RUSH B BLYAT URAA!!!!!! *soviet national athem earrape play in the back ground*
@soakedmovie9231
6 жыл бұрын
LordPinochetUTTP no just no
@oojaa2
6 жыл бұрын
Actually the next battle on ice was at around 1263 near the Muhu island. Russians were not involved.
In Russian schools that story is told weeeeery differently, including statements like "Livonians army was much stronger than Alexander's, also there were a lot of German knights in full plate armor (1242 AD, ahah) and they were scattered so much after the initial encirclement they fled into thin parts of the lake's ice, that collapsed under a weight of heavy cavalry and a lot of knights have drowned". Hell, I even know where those stories originate from: a soviet movie of 1930th by Sergei Eisenstein.
6:35 >The mongols almost unstoppabble destroying everything >Pope: WE NEED A CRUSADE AGAINST THE ORTHODOXS
Isn't it a natural born talent - 16 year old being top notch politician and military leader. Truly one of the greatest warriors of human history.
@NyangisKhan
6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention his majestic beard!
@Fankas2000
6 жыл бұрын
But nobles were raised from birth to be commander and politicians. Also remember that propaganda existed even then.
@thekingishuey9072
6 жыл бұрын
Also his name was Alexander apparently anyone with that name is a military genius.
@rumatom1
6 жыл бұрын
Amir Nozari yea, he was pretty Great.
@LukeGeoDude
6 жыл бұрын
He won a battle where he had the bigger, better disciplined army and that makes him the greatest warrior? I think I can already guess where you are from.
Those mongol tentacles scared the shit out of me
Rules of Mideavil Times: -Do Not live in Spain after AD 1,500 -Do not kill a Mongol Envoy -Immediately surrendered to Mongol hords. Their are no other rules.
@SigurdGR
Жыл бұрын
Hungary defeated Mongols before Rus.
You see, killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down
@Lazbotable
2 жыл бұрын
Kiff, show them the medal I won
One mistake: Vsevolodovichi were not a dynasty - they were just one branch of the Ryurikovichi dynasty - the descendants of the founder of the Rus state, Ryurik the Varangian. They ruled nearly every part of Rus/Russia until the Time of Troubles when Ivan IV's sons all met some form of violent death.
The ice on Lake Peipus keeps growing and melting, but the notorious border between the East and the West is again or to this very day at the same place as it was in 1242.
When I was a boy I remember watching the film Alexander Nevsky from Eisenstein, greetings from México
Rus' vult!
@arawn1061
6 жыл бұрын
Matias Roman ruotski
@CarlosRios1
6 жыл бұрын
Rus' doesn't Vult, only Deus Vults
@aksmex2576
6 жыл бұрын
That's very good
@arawn1061
6 жыл бұрын
Carlos Rios in Soviet Russia... CRUSADES, CRUSADE YOU!
@user-db8bj4yk5r
5 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosRios1 how about no
"Lol, thx for the castle!" -Alexander.
Interesting fact, Alexander and Andrey both travelled to Mongolia under the invitation of Guyuk Khan and were awarded princedoms.
@user-yi4sf8tm4v
4 жыл бұрын
you're not quite right. this was a confirmation of vassalage, they did not receive the Principality, and inherited from his father
Vikings is a pure pay to win game, nothing to do with stragegy
@randybowen4675
5 жыл бұрын
Kasper Nielsen Mobile games are just dumb in general, fee are worth the time are fewer are worth money.
«Кто к нам с мечем придет, от меча и погибнет» “Whoever will come to us with a sword, by a sword shall perish” Alexandr Nevsky
The Mongol Horde was like a weather event
everybody gangsta until Mongols arrive.
Me and my family are originally from this region. I was born there and I lived there for a while. Now, I only visit, yet I love it and I am proud of the city and its history and culture (and the battle, of course). Thank you for presenting it so well! Good job! I think you guys are becoming my favourite channel on youtube. :) Edit: One of two favourites. You split the gold medal, but you get it definitely. :)))
@davidhalabi664
6 жыл бұрын
Which City?
@sonyablade3001
6 жыл бұрын
держи в курсе, им это очень интересно)
@robertacrumplin6394
6 жыл бұрын
Lovely comment! Nice to see some pride for one's home
@vasiliykolebanov845
6 жыл бұрын
Hey. Should have been more specific. I just assumed that it would be clear, considering that Alexander and Novgorod are the central figures in this event. Historically my family is from all over the region (and Nizhegorodskaya oblast' as well), yet I have spent more time in Novgorod and the South of Russia for some reason. :) Where are you from?
@vasiliykolebanov845
6 жыл бұрын
I do not know what you mean... I know that a lot of historians tend to break the actual events through the prism of nationalistic subjectivity and often such a bend of history becomes widely accepted. Could you be more specific, please!?
Greetings from Latvia... happy to see us mentioned here also
@LordDemosair
6 жыл бұрын
Amalion you guys get no love, do you?!
It is a mistake: 5:15 "Vsevolodovich" is not a name of dynasty but the name of Yaroslav's father. In other words, Yaroslav Vsevolodovich = Yaroslav son of Vsevolod. All those princes were a members of Rurikid dynasty. Rurikids were a ruling dynasty of Russia till late 16 century.
In Russia, till 17th century was only one dinasty “Ruricovichi”. Gademinovichi and other was in Lithuania. Vsevolodochi is not dinasty, they are sons of Vsevolod (bolshoe gnezdo), who was the Head of The Great Kingdom Volodimirskoe, with the main Russian capital city Vlodimir. The main capital Vladimir was since beginning 12 century, when all states regaly were taken from Kiev, by The Great Prince Andrey Bogolybski, Vsevolod’s older brother, and after him Vsevolod became The Great Knyaz. Title Knyaz =.hertsog = konung. But if “The Great Knyaz”, means King. The title Tsar means imperator, taken first time only in 16th century in Russia, before it they called by titile Tsar imperators in Bezantium and HolyRomEmp Germane (Habsburgs). After Mongol’s intervention, they called by the title Tsar, Han of the Ulus-Djuchi state, and only Chingidsids dinasty, capital in Sarai-Berke.
Here's a bit intel that the op overlooked: The German sources state that it was a minor skirmish; the Russians say it was a huge conflict. Make with that what you will.
@KIRILL-fl7cp
3 жыл бұрын
This was practically the only Russian victory during the period when the Russian principalities suffered serious defeats from the Mongols. So, it is not surprising that it received a lot of attention in Russian chronicles.
@modest_spice6083
2 жыл бұрын
Nevertheless, it ended any semblance of a Baltic crusade in primarily Rus land, which is a lot because (correct me if I'm wrong) Novgorod, Pskov and the Livonian Brotherhood's Rusland borders did not change until the era of Reformation.
Hmm so nobody actually fell through the ice? Must have been a myth then.
@greatalexander3820
6 жыл бұрын
There is a film about which I believe is the earliest source of that particular myth.
@vladimirdyuzhev
5 жыл бұрын
It was reported that _some_ did. How many is unclear. It was also reported that the center did not give in so easily because there was a rock behind it. I.e. it did give in - the militia couldn't possibly stand a heavy knights attack - but the knights found themselves not on an operational space, but facing an unpassable rock.
@yuridegtyarev7229
4 жыл бұрын
according to the Russians some did.
I feel like this was a missed opportunity to use Prokofiev's "Battle on the Ice" But this is still an excellent video!
"Nuke them!" "It's the 13th century you fool." I'm dying... 😂
When I first saw the title I thought it would be about the time the swedish king Karl XII crossed the straits between denmark and sweden and took Copenhaegen
@arawn1061
6 жыл бұрын
Nathanael Sallhag Eriksson är du säker på det?
@gustavnielsen1816
6 жыл бұрын
Han tog aldrig København >:c
@vulturearmy3780
6 жыл бұрын
Nathanael Sallhag Eriksson see CAROLUS RISE!!!
@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719
6 жыл бұрын
Aron Johansson OK, Danmark gav upp innan han han göra något. Men jag var rätt säker på att han tog staden när Danmark gav sig. (Om det var det du menar)
@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719
6 жыл бұрын
Gustav Nielsen samma här, Danmark gav upp före han han göra något.
I need this narrator to narrate my life.
Little mistake: When Teutonic Knights captured Koporye they built a wooden castle there. The stone castle was built later by russians.
Peregrinus expectavi!
@gnas1897
Жыл бұрын
Pedes meos in cymbalis
More on the Baltic Wars?
You should do a series following Carolus Rex, king of sweden during The Era of Power. Despite his lower manpower against his opponents he managed to succed because of his superior military tactics
I love how you made the Mongol horde look and sound so terrifying. Great touch
I've had like 3 of my favorite KZreadrs sponsor this game.. Wonder how much they got for doing it. Also as someone who lost his headphones, thank you for doing your own captions. I was so relieved and just adds another layer of awesome.
Hello! I would like to suggest something that could turn out into a great video. The Siege of Constantinople (717-718) as the last obstacle for an arab invasion of the balkan peninsula and all of Europe. Decisive victory over the Arabs with the combined arms of the Byzentines and the Bulgars(Bulgarians) who were led by Tervel, nicknamed after "The Saviour of Europe" by chroniclists. Thank you for reading! It would turn out a great video.
@Angelblue1302
6 жыл бұрын
Byzantines and Bulgarians against an army of Arabs, but more importantly, Byzantines!? Now that is something cool :D
@Cancoillotteman
6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they'd tell you " What's a Byzantine ? We're just Romans goddamnit !" XD
@Cancoillotteman
6 жыл бұрын
Because "decisive" means that the arabs were then repulsed from both Europe and Anatolia, the Byzantines survived for about 700 more years, the Califate entered a crises that would ultimately bring its downfall, a decisive victory doesn't need to end a country to be decisive and also yeah, the Arab Califate does not exist anymore.
@TheLittledikkins
4 жыл бұрын
@@Angelblue1302 Most importantly, the Byzantines still had Greek Fire which they used on the Arab ships...with most of the Arab army still on board.
Do the siege of Malbork next. It was and still is the largest castle ever bulit and it was never conquered by siege but rather by bribery
@1Korlash
6 жыл бұрын
A very silly synopsis of the Siege of Malbork/Marienburg: Poles & Lithuanians: "We beat you at Grunwald! Surrender the castle to us!" Teutonic Order: "It's Tannenberg, and no way!" Poles & Lithuanians: *stare at massive red brick walls* Lithuanians: "...So, uh...do we have to take this thing?" Poles: "...They didn't surrender, so, um...I guess so...Dammit, they were supposed to surrender like all the other castles! Now we have to actually siege this place!" Lithuanians: "Yeah, about that: When I said I'd work with you, I didn't mean I'd throw myself at an impregnable castle to get slaughtered pointlessly by angry Germans." Scout: "Guys! Guys! There's an army of crusaders coming to kick our asses!" Poles: "...Wat." Scout: "Apparently, all of Christendom's kinda pissed at you for allying with pagans to kick the crap out of a monastic order." Poles: "WHAT?!" Lithuanians: "lol. You're in trooooouble!~"" Poles: "YOU SHUT UP! But...but...how did they get an army together so fast?" Scout: "Oh, the Teutonic Order has chapter houses and hospitals all over Germany, so they spread the word. Also a lot of people have crusaded with the Order, so most people like them more than you." Lithuanians: "Well, then, if it's all the same to you, I'm gonna head on home." Poles: "Wait, what? You're just gonna quit? After everything we went through to get this far?" Lithuanians: "Yep. Unless you have any ideas for taking this castle? Or facing that crusader army coming? Poles: "...I'll pack up the tents." Lithuanians: "I thought as much."
@sowiwiody3681
6 жыл бұрын
Still tho they bribed the crew and took the castle easily
@sowiwiody3681
6 жыл бұрын
God damn Czechs
@sowiwiody3681
6 жыл бұрын
Oh right
2:00 Just to note that the Lithuanian tribes included Prussian, Samogaitan, etc. Lithuania was a federation of multiple tribes who shared a common identity that eventually centralized under the title of Lithuania.
"Nuke them." "It's the 13the century, you fool." *lol*
It's okay guys, the Red Cross is here..... waaaaitaminute...
Russia fighting in its element
@jamesbernadette6216
6 жыл бұрын
Pfff, Winter War begs to differ :D But truly great use of military command from a chap that is barely on the brink of adulthood :)
@mogyesz9
6 жыл бұрын
Listen to Prokofiev's song for the battle.
@sonyablade3001
6 жыл бұрын
+mogyesz9 "Sergei Prokofiev - Battle On The Ice" ?
@benaud5790
6 жыл бұрын
James Bernadette ok
@jamesbernadette6216
6 жыл бұрын
So did Pyrrhus of Epirus against Romans...
every mobile game ad needs to come with the disclaimer "microtransactions not included"
Yaroslav Vsevolodovich (Alexander "Nevskiy" Yaroslavovich father) left Russia to visit the capital of The Mongol Empire, Karakorum. His visit was short, as many historians speculate he was poisoned there. Right after his death his 2 sons Andrey and Alexander were invited to Karakorum. The Great Khan Munke gave an order that Andrey and Alexander would separately rule their father's lands. The reason behind this order was that, Batu Khan (Khan of the Golden Horde) contested the rule of the Russian tsardoms. Alexander was Batu Khan's foster son. They opposed him ruling the tsardoms as it would mean that Alexander would directly obey to Batu.
*Численность и тактику войск отлично разбирает военный историк Клим Жуков. По его объективным данным у ливонцев вряд ли было более 1000 чел, а у новгородцев и суздальцев 1500 чел. Пехоты в бою не было вообще, за исключением не комбатантов.* The number and tactics of the troops perfectly understands the military historian Klim Zhukov. According to the objective data of the Livonians was hardly more than 1,000 people, and the people of Novgorod and Suzdal 1500 people. Infantry in battle did not exist, except non-combatants.
@kotemura9090
4 жыл бұрын
"по его объективным данным" >_
Teutonic Order: "Hey! Don't run with those scissors!" Livonian Order: "You're not the boss of me!" *Battle of Lake Peipus* LO: "OW! TO: *facepalm*
Yielding peace with Mongols is the most wise decision he made
I sat through a disgusting microtransaction laden mobile game advert just to support this channel
5.05:"nuke them" LOL
I'd love to see more videos about the Northern Crusades. And the Crusades in general.
@enes8k9
5 жыл бұрын
It's disgusting imho.. So many people murdered to spread shit religions. Unimaginable numbers. Europe had a lot of pagans, nothing was allowed but Catholic religion. Don't think that even 5% is documented... or even less, and yet so many died.
@1987MartinT
4 жыл бұрын
@@enes8k9 The Crusades ARE disgusting. I'm not even going to pretend like they're not. But they are also more than that. They are also fascinating and exciting.
I am supposed to be angry that this guy didn''t put nevsky's battle on the ice music
This channel is like Game of Thrones on steroids. History of Europe is fascinating and still shamefully undiscovered by many.
God, I love your videos! The title of this one made me think how cool it would be for you to break down a famous NFL game such as The Ice Bowl. Pretty please?
"nuke them!" "it's the 13th century you fool" i love this channel
"Nuke them!" -"It's 13th century, you fool" XD
I missed having the yearly dates in the top left corner during the historical part of the video. Really helps implement a time frame, that is otherwise lost. Other than that, fantastic video. The production value is clearly showing through. Keep 'em coming!
"The frightened Novgorodians, like all Russians, cowardly pursued the Teutons ..." The invincible Teutons bravely fled, leaving yellow smoking cakes on their tracks "
what about the knights drowning?
@michaelmanning5379
6 жыл бұрын
That's from the Eisenstein movie. It was great cinema but poor history. Still, I'll never forget the powerful image of the knights sinking under the black water.
@adamfrisk956
6 жыл бұрын
They didn't have havier armour, just so you know.
@blacklight4720
6 жыл бұрын
Andrei Skobtsov I wonder about this for a long time. In Russia-Ukraine that is how the battle of ice is described(drowning knights). But I can't recall finding archeologic facts writen anywhere. I doubt there was drowning,It does sounds like something that folk would tell each other.
@AndrewVasirov
6 жыл бұрын
It's something romantics would like to tell, that even the nature was against the invaders.
@tannerosborn2666
6 жыл бұрын
Wow, I can't believe it's fake. A history book I read my junior year also stated that the ice cracked and the knights fell in.
awesome video as always, may I suggest the turkish siege of Malta (1565) next? [the italian version of wikipedia gives a lot more story to work on, compared to the english one, so if you want I can help you translate those info]
@barbatvs8959
6 жыл бұрын
That was during the Spanish Empire, so I am very interested.
“Nuke them!” “It’s the 13th, century you fool”
Alexander Nevsky is the score composed by Sergei Prokofiev for Sergei Eisenstein's 1938 film Alexander Nevsky. The subject of the symphony and film is the Livonian invasion of Novgorod. The majority of the score's song texts were written by the poet Vladimir Lugovoskoy. In 1939, Prokofiev arranged the music of the film score as the cantata Alexander Nevsky, Op. 78, for mezzo-soprano, chorus, and orchestra. It is one of the few examples of film music that has found a permanent place in the standard repertoire and has also remained one of the most renowned cantatas of the 20th century. Anyone who relishes a grand version of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture is sure to love Alexander Nevsky cantata, especially the 5th movement, 'The Battle on Ice.' Magnificent as only a Russian composer could render it!
As russian, i really appriciate it, thanks! How about some more fantasy battles? Mb from TES
Kings and Generals and Baz Battles uploaded the same day, what's next Kim Jong Un resignes :D
@rockfan2996
6 жыл бұрын
And yes, in Russia Crusade crusades you
Alexander Nevski made the most critical decision to submit to the Mongol invaders. part of the deal was to pay tribute every year and Mongols provided the Tatar horse archers. FYI. that's what we have been taught in school (Russian Embassy School in Mongolia).
Now I see where George RR Martin got his idea for the Battle of Ice, aka Stannis Baratheon and the northern mountain clans vs. Hosteen Frey's heavy cavalry.
@Siegbert85
6 жыл бұрын
Was that in the show? I can't remember
@RichardHorpe
6 жыл бұрын
No it's an upcoming book battle with preparations laid out in the Theon I Winds of Winter preview chapter.