The Battle of May Island | Down the Rabbit Hole

In the early 1900s, an experiment with submarine technology precipitates one of the most absurd events in naval history.
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  • @cultistsash
    @cultistsash3 жыл бұрын

    "Want to hear about some KZreadrs?" "Sure Fred." "Want to hear about the Deep Blue AI?" "Sure Fred." "Want to hear about the Battle of May Island?" "Anything goes, Fred."

  • @sneezebiscuits7239

    @sneezebiscuits7239

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Yes, chef." "Yes, chef."

  • @NotAGoodUsername360

    @NotAGoodUsername360

    2 жыл бұрын

    Shitshow of any kind: **exists** Fredrik: It's free real estate

  • @IceFire1800

    @IceFire1800

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fred, the master of diverse topics

  • @JoelCarli

    @JoelCarli

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Oh by the way, I play hurdy gurdy"

  • @ScrawnyTreeDemon

    @ScrawnyTreeDemon

    2 жыл бұрын

    We love a well-learned king~

  • @TheMaskedArcanum
    @TheMaskedArcanum3 жыл бұрын

    K22: "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?" The Inflexible: Read ✓

  • @facepalm5134

    @facepalm5134

    2 жыл бұрын

    I call this "The very Inflexible"

  • @RamzaBeowulf

    @RamzaBeowulf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Operation: Tiger

  • @treehann

    @treehann

    2 жыл бұрын

    Back then “hell” was a much harsher swear, too

  • @dante666jt

    @dante666jt

    2 жыл бұрын

    Vibin

  • @LockeRobsta

    @LockeRobsta

    2 жыл бұрын

    Everyone's got that friend.

  • @thomasjackson4059
    @thomasjackson4059 Жыл бұрын

    My great grandfather died in this tragedy. He was on k-17. His name was Thomas Jackson and his diary is in the Portsmouth naval museum. The part of the diary I have is mostly about his time in the Dardenelles. My grandfather, also called Thomas Jackson served in the navy (HMS Edinburgh WW2) and never found out what happened to his father apart from he died. Just wanted to say thank you for sharing this.

  • @dylanogg347

    @dylanogg347

    Жыл бұрын

    My heart goes out to you and your family mate. I hope this video gave you some comfort.

  • @silentotaku8

    @silentotaku8

    Жыл бұрын

    I thank you and your family for their service and sacrifices. Cheers!

  • @thomasjackson4059

    @thomasjackson4059

    Жыл бұрын

    @@silentotaku8 I thank you but I have never served. I’m proud to come from a family that served their country for generations and it’s them and countless others that deserve our thanks.

  • @silentotaku8

    @silentotaku8

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thomasjackson4059 I respect your modesty friend! I raise a mug in your honor and wish you a wonderful rest of the year, skål! (Cheers!)

  • @dylanogg347

    @dylanogg347

    Жыл бұрын

    @@silentotaku8 Cheers all round.

  • @JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal
    @JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal9 ай бұрын

    Its been 2 years since fredrik went insane studying eve online.

  • @RaffieFaffie

    @RaffieFaffie

    7 ай бұрын

    wut

  • @calzoneyyy

    @calzoneyyy

    6 ай бұрын

    he’s finally free from it

  • @League-of-uninstall

    @League-of-uninstall

    20 күн бұрын

    I haven't watched it yet but I intend to it's just a fucking beefy video

  • @therealdoc
    @therealdoc2 жыл бұрын

    "It surely can't get any worse." "Surely it can't get ANY worse." "SURELY, IT CANNOT GET ANY WORSE." "ARE YOU SERIOUS?!"

  • @Narusasu98

    @Narusasu98

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perfect summary

  • @SMAXZO

    @SMAXZO

    2 жыл бұрын

    "What's the worse that could-" *after the massive pileup* "You just had to say it..."

  • @bastiangalaz4580

    @bastiangalaz4580

    2 жыл бұрын

    What a shitfest

  • @jettythesunfish

    @jettythesunfish

    2 жыл бұрын

    Murphy's Law, my friend.

  • @johnalbert7526

    @johnalbert7526

    2 жыл бұрын

    Holy clusterfuck that I had never even heard of before ! It was like watching 10 episodes of the Three Stooges all at once.

  • @jonathanwerner3664
    @jonathanwerner36642 жыл бұрын

    Imagine being cold in the water, stunned by the shock of the accident. The relief from seeing friendly ships, only to be sucked into propeller of your countrymen's ships. What a brutal way to go

  • @Narusasu98

    @Narusasu98

    2 жыл бұрын

    This was truly atrocious to hear

  • @VickMcbread

    @VickMcbread

    2 жыл бұрын

    fuuuuk dude

  • @Siddingsby

    @Siddingsby

    2 жыл бұрын

    During WW2, on more than one occasion, Allied ships not only ran over friendly sailors but also dropped depth charges into the water with them to try and sink enemy submarines.

  • @Wildstar40

    @Wildstar40

    2 жыл бұрын

    And since the Admiralty decided to bury this incident and keep it a secret tells me they lied to the families of those who died in this incident about how they died. That's a lot of lying and that lying successfully added another fucked up kink in this story. Sorry for swearing but seriously there are no other words.

  • @CruelestChris

    @CruelestChris

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Wildstar40 The death reports given to families in the two World Wars very rarely reflected what actually happened to their loved ones. It was seen as being kinder to report that they died quickly and doing something brave. See for example the letters scene in _Memphis Belle_ . All of those letters are real.

  • @dumbino7745
    @dumbino7745 Жыл бұрын

    for those wondering why there aren't any new uploads, don't worry he's working on a video about EVE Online that's gonna be over five hours, which is why its taking so long to make. seeing how an hour long vid about an officially documented event like this one took him about 4 months to make, a five hour long one about an ongoing subject with a bunch of vague/untrustworthy info taking over a year is to be expected.

  • @anujpartihar

    @anujpartihar

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh sweet! Looking forward to it.

  • @NellyLikesPirates

    @NellyLikesPirates

    Жыл бұрын

    thank you!

  • @clfleishman

    @clfleishman

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @Oubliettine

    @Oubliettine

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve never been so excited for a KZread comeback. The Eve online rabbit hole will definitely take you on through the looking glass.

  • @fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName

    @fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName

    Жыл бұрын

    Excellent. I was worried.

  • @notdoneyet1361
    @notdoneyet1361 Жыл бұрын

    The description of K6 finding no survivors in the water after K4 broke in half and sunk gave me chills. Imagine being the captain of K6, still reeling from the crash and processing what just happened, suddenly realizing that the whole crew is dead and he is responsible.

  • @BigPuddin

    @BigPuddin

    Жыл бұрын

    It wasn't even his fault, but I imagine he had an awful case of survivor's guilt after that and blamed himself for the accident. What an awful clusterfuck.

  • @Nero_Karel

    @Nero_Karel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BigPuddin I dunno about that - obviously the poor visibility relieves him to some degree, but the lights on a ship are colour-coded by direction specifically so something like this usually wouldn't happen to a competent captain

  • @stevemc01

    @stevemc01

    8 ай бұрын

    Remember that the lights were pretty scheisse to begin with, being dim and shuttered, so maybe it took him a bit of time to realize what light it was. @@Nero_Karel

  • @drrisen-9442

    @drrisen-9442

    7 ай бұрын

    @@stevemc01Seconding this. The design of the lights was extremely subpar for emergencies due to their directional nature. This was essentially a Swiss cheese model disaster, too many holes lined up.

  • @bradenhagen7977

    @bradenhagen7977

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Nero_Karel they were also shuttered so you would be able to see it from the impact angle.

  • @Ana_Ng
    @Ana_Ng3 жыл бұрын

    it took me a while to realise this wasn't a bunch of backstory leading up to the battle of may island, this WAS the battle

  • @FoshuV

    @FoshuV

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah same XD Probably why the monument puts the biggest quotation marks around the word Battle.

  • @riftvallance2087

    @riftvallance2087

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was kind of expecting the germans to show up during the mess and just kill everybody.

  • @VolkColopatrion

    @VolkColopatrion

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Battle"

  • @DrCruel

    @DrCruel

    2 жыл бұрын

    The British Navy decisively battled with the Stupidity Empire. Stupidity won.

  • @naiknaik8812

    @naiknaik8812

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thought therebwas gonna be redemption but ended just depressed

  • @SivakAurak
    @SivakAurak3 жыл бұрын

    "Desperately, he gave the order to turn to starboard..." Me, having watched Cost of Concordia: "I know where this is headed"

  • @theR1ch

    @theR1ch

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vada a bordo, cazzo!

  • @ivannintendo

    @ivannintendo

    3 жыл бұрын

    I see my fellow culturemen

  • @murpium

    @murpium

    3 жыл бұрын

    “He cocks up at the worst possible moment”

  • @jimraynor9839

    @jimraynor9839

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Wait, I've seen this trick before!"

  • @TaurusOxford

    @TaurusOxford

    3 жыл бұрын

    No Schetinos on board these boats/subs, thank God.

  • @buggibii
    @buggibii Жыл бұрын

    "He believed that if a ship could move and shoot fast enough, it wouldn't need defense." manses was using video game logic.

  • @XXXTENTAClON227

    @XXXTENTAClON227

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro went for the glass cannon build

  • @helenhomunculus5044

    @helenhomunculus5044

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@XXXTENTAClON227 da shin akuma ship

  • @gregotox
    @gregotox Жыл бұрын

    I love it when people with last names like "Fisher" end up with titles like "Sea lord".

  • @TheLiosoul
    @TheLiosoul3 жыл бұрын

    Germany: "Great job sinking an entire fleet on your own!" U-boats: "Huh?"

  • @michaelkolano8686

    @michaelkolano8686

    3 жыл бұрын

    Uh.. yeah! It was a one in a million shot, but we me managed to pull it off!

  • @Narishiva
    @Narishiva3 жыл бұрын

    "A man aboard a ship who had seen M2 that morning casually asked if it was normal for submarines to dive backwards. He was told that it was not." Jesus Christ.

  • @DxBlack

    @DxBlack

    2 жыл бұрын

    This WWI Bruh moment brought to you by the letter K.

  • @Aaron-hf5or

    @Aaron-hf5or

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s one of the best parts of the whole movie.

  • @MCdouchbag

    @MCdouchbag

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Aaron-hf5or Genuine question, no secondary meaning behind it: are you Romanian?

  • @jamessales9047

    @jamessales9047

    Ай бұрын

    @@MCdouchbagcount

  • @helmaschine1885
    @helmaschine18852 жыл бұрын

    44:45 this to me has to be the worst part. One of the last ships barging through helpless overboard men and lifeboats, sucking some into its propellers. All because of bad visibility and communication. Tragic and absolutely horrific

  • @spaceyote7174
    @spaceyote717411 ай бұрын

    What's wild to me is that despite how much ocean the submarines could have covered and how they all kept changing course, their paths *still* kept intersecting perfectly by sheer chance

  • @masonaleman

    @masonaleman

    10 ай бұрын

    That has to be some of the worst luck in the history of man.

  • @blockrocka225
    @blockrocka2253 жыл бұрын

    This is the naval equivalent of when you’re carrying a load of loose laundry and you drop a sock but when you bend down to pick it up three more articles fall and so on and so on until you’re forced to just drop the lot and throw everything back together again. Except people died.

  • @skeetsmcgrew3282

    @skeetsmcgrew3282

    3 жыл бұрын

    You dont know my laundry room. RIP Horatio from apartment 3C, you will be missed

  • @BloodfelX

    @BloodfelX

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Except people died." Nearly as many as at the Pentagon in the September 11th attacks at that. (102 deaths in the May Island incident, 125 at the Pentagon in the September 11th attacks)

  • @hairyheartsmith8513

    @hairyheartsmith8513

    3 жыл бұрын

    Life hack #833: Put a towel on top of the dryer and put laundry on top of that. Pick the towel up by it's corners. Button up shirts can work too.

  • @zerwif

    @zerwif

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now the sock needs a giant gun or a plane.

  • @pawesomepal7827
    @pawesomepal78272 жыл бұрын

    I've never been more stressed watching ovals narrowly miss each other.

  • @Stray7

    @Stray7

    2 жыл бұрын

    And, horribly, NOT missing each other...

  • @paulgaither

    @paulgaither

    2 жыл бұрын

    Watch Historia Civilis, and you can get emotionality attached to occasionally spinning squares and rectangles.

  • @DnBastard

    @DnBastard

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ngl I almost cried watching the ovals plough straight through the dots

  • @celery8059

    @celery8059

    2 жыл бұрын

    RIGHT IM SWEATING

  • @That_One_Xatu

    @That_One_Xatu

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe 104 dots were killed by THEIR OWN FLEET of ovals. Holy shit. I hope someone got fired for that blunder.

  • @ScottMaxwell_UK
    @ScottMaxwell_UK Жыл бұрын

    I was on the dive team you mentioned at the start who discovered the final resting place of the wrecks after the Battle of May Island. From my back porch I can see the site from here. This was an engineering disaster, not a naval one. "Too many damn holes", as one account goes. Worth noting as you mention in the last few minutes - nuclear powered submarines, including the V-boats where I served in the Royal Navy, are also steam powered. They just don't need coal. Right idea, wrong time. Respect to those who served upon these widow makers.

  • @ricya1982

    @ricya1982

    Жыл бұрын

    This is why I always come back to vids I watch, even years later. Sometimes, the people involved, who are unknown or not popular, show up and share some extra/specific info. I LOVE knowing slightly more than others on various things. ^_^

  • @EmoLozer500

    @EmoLozer500

    Жыл бұрын

    The engineering wouldn't have been so disastrous if not for naval leaders demanding these ships be created to their exact specifications. Seemingly misunderstanding how these ships would work in practice, and regardless of the concerns many engineers raised. This is not how to spark competent innovation. Often they would simply replace concenered engineers with others who would do it, and were deterred from asking questions. Essentially telling engineers to just get it done, and figure it out somehow. They made these decisions without any understanding of how these ideas would be implemented, or their functionality at sea. Due to the nature of the war, wanting to gain an advantage quickly. These projects were rushed aswell, to a point where serious design flaws were not noticed until it was far too late. The ones that were noticed only had superficial fixes. They did not keep many well working ships from previous years British crews knew how to navigate well as back ups, preferring to scrap them in order to start a new. The technicalities weren't being considered heavily enough by naval leaders, and they were too stubborn to see how unreasonable their demands actually were. The navy also disregarded opinions of skilled sailors telling them these ships were unmanageable, and there were too many issues with the limitations of communication technology at that time. I'm not saying the engineering isn't at fault, but the navy also played a key role in how this tragedy came about. They are both responsible for what happened to those ships, and the crews aboard them. This was a disastrous blunder by the navy as naval leaders continuously made poor, ill informed decisions. Stuck by them despite the obvious, and severe problems. Then once something truly horrifying happened, costing the lives of many. They tried to cover it up rather than take any accountability, or confront the families of those who needlessly died. Their actions were not innocent in this. The navy had many many opportunities to prevent such an incident, but they opted to ignore them. Utterly cruel, and embarrassing behavior.

  • @CruelestChris

    @CruelestChris

    Жыл бұрын

    These subs weren't running on coal, they were running on heavy fuel oil. The problem was the preheaters needed to make it a liquid before it could be used. And the problems here weren't anything to do with engineering, they were to do with violations of proper procedure and driving a squadron of large vessels into an approaching fleet without any idea if it knew they were coming. Without that, this was a minor collision with two casualties.

  • @NeODeLeuX

    @NeODeLeuX

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EmoLozer500 ^This You can't fault an engineer if he's forced to design something against their judgement because someone higher on the command chain forced them to do so. As a Geological Engineer, the times I've heard stories of colleagues who had to leave good paying jobs in the Geotechnical/Civil engineering field because the one putting the cash tried to force them to build something against regulations/plain proven science facts that would go against the structure integrity and therefore the lives of the people using such structure is too damn high to not be concerning. Most of the times is exactly as you said, first you raise the issue to your boss and then they either ask for other options that can cut corners while still being legally "safe enough" or they just straight up force you to retire and then find someone willing to do the job/dirty their hands for a quick buck. It's actually sickening how some people play with other people's safety/lives just to save some money because they made a bad investment/didn't care from the start.

  • @CruelestChris

    @CruelestChris

    8 ай бұрын

    @@chonchjohnch No, what's being said is that the "steam" part isn't the problem, it's that the power source was boilers burning heavy fuel oil. That was what caused all the issues.

  • @teenybun5249
    @teenybun524910 ай бұрын

    I never knew how important the Navaho Code Talkers where until watching this and seeing how hard communication really was. Speed and making sure your enemy couldn't understand you must have been a nightmare.

  • @isaacjones6323
    @isaacjones63233 жыл бұрын

    5 minutes in: oh this seems interesting 20 minutes in: haha this is gonna be wild 35 minutes in: damn this is going terribly 45 minutes in: holy shit this is hell god has abandoned us

  • @thesaltyspoon7483

    @thesaltyspoon7483

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very true

  • @knightsoftarot6794

    @knightsoftarot6794

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's the magic of Fredrik Knudsen for ya

  • @michaelcarmona7838
    @michaelcarmona78383 жыл бұрын

    Imagine being a survivor of this massacre. You’ve just gone through one of the most insane and hellish experiences of your life, witnessing your crew die around you, only to be told that you can never talk about it. And not only that, but you then have to watch silently for years as these machines which you know are faulty and dangerous are casually used to kill more of your fellow sailors just because the high command doesn’t want to admit it made a mistake.

  • @thehermit8618

    @thehermit8618

    3 жыл бұрын

    They say one of the few things that can match the size of human stupidity is human arrogance

  • @emmettbattle5728

    @emmettbattle5728

    3 жыл бұрын

    unimaginable and eternal horror, back then you had no resources to heal from that

  • @AchedSphinx

    @AchedSphinx

    3 жыл бұрын

    the nine survivors saw their crew mates get disintegrated into pools of bloody water. i think i'd go crazy after seeing something like that.

  • @nesano4735

    @nesano4735

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds a lot like modern-day companies.

  • @Titanium

    @Titanium

    3 жыл бұрын

    And what do they do with these deathtraps instead of dismantling them immediately? They slap ridiculous modifications on them and continue their use. "Put a big fuckin gun on it" *sinks, entire crew dies* "Now put a plane on it." *sinks, entire crew dies*

  • @ThatSkiFreak
    @ThatSkiFreak9 ай бұрын

    with names like "the fearless" and "the inflexible" this really sounds like some kind of ancient myth

  • @junkbotbionicle6217
    @junkbotbionicle6217 Жыл бұрын

    It's a real shame this didn't perform as well as his videos about lolcows or videogame scams. I loved the visuals, and his enthusiasm about this event really sells it.

  • @aydon1276

    @aydon1276

    Жыл бұрын

    Because videos about lolcows are better. Other people have covered this better and in less time

  • @junkbotbionicle6217

    @junkbotbionicle6217

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aydon1276 why are they better?

  • @Kyle_Riel

    @Kyle_Riel

    Жыл бұрын

    Not nearly as many people want to hear about awful horrible war attrocities

  • @hurt6145

    @hurt6145

    11 ай бұрын

    @@aydon1276 'They aren't

  • @GittingGud1

    @GittingGud1

    10 ай бұрын

    @@aydon1276 Thanks for your highly subjective opinion.

  • @DavidBrocekArt
    @DavidBrocekArt2 жыл бұрын

    German soldier: "Look, British Navy, let's attack them!" German Captain: "Let's just wait a little bit to see what happens..."

  • @dante666jt

    @dante666jt

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol Royal Navy my ass

  • @HUNTERCOPELR

    @HUNTERCOPELR

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes lol Royal Navy my ass! 👌🏻

  • @AverageAlien

    @AverageAlien

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dante666jt yeah not like Britain was known for clapping every other country with its navy

  • @riftvallance2087

    @riftvallance2087

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm picturing in my head the captain saying "no no just wait this is gonna be good " But in a silly German voice.

  • @villainx91

    @villainx91

    2 жыл бұрын

    What if they didnt notice and just heard a ton of breaking and lights and their just like "you hear that?"

  • @ArtForSwans
    @ArtForSwans2 жыл бұрын

    I'm 18 minutes in but I wanted to comment on the fact that the British Royal Navy probably advanced submarine development by showing exactly how *not* to build a submarine. Like they practically invented new ways for stuff to go wrong.

  • @doctorsnakeeater1997

    @doctorsnakeeater1997

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its like Onision helping literature class since English teachers use his books as examples on how *not* to write a story.

  • @katevgrady

    @katevgrady

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah cuz see I had thought it would probably be good for subs to dive into the ground nose first but thanks to the British navy I now know that's not good

  • @gabriel.b9036

    @gabriel.b9036

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Astolfo Desu What makes you think British Submarines were any better than German ones?

  • @CruelestChris

    @CruelestChris

    Жыл бұрын

    The thing is most of what's in the early part of the video not only isn't true but is the complete opposite of the truth. The British started the war with the largest submarine fleet in the world (76 compared to Germany's 28, including 16 long-range patrol subs), pioneered diesel submarines, and by the end of the war had the first hunter-killer submarines in service. Fischer was actually a proponent of submarines. The issue with the K Class was that they were literally the only solution to a demand for a surface speed of 21 knots: even at the end of the war the fastest subs with diesel engines (British J Class) could only manage 19.

  • @BaldingClamydia
    @BaldingClamydia6 ай бұрын

    Give your music editor a raise. They're doing a great job! All of the ambient sounds and the way the music speeds up as the tension increases show someone who really knows what they're doing :D

  • @MoonDreamofA
    @MoonDreamofA Жыл бұрын

    I don't think I've ever felt sick when hearing how personnel -of any disaster- died. I think it feels so awful because of just how much of a perfect storm everything was. Imagine being on one of the boats that sailed through the survivors, and learning later that you mowed through a bunch of your own comrades. I almost hope they never learned of what happened since they didn't mean to harm anyone.

  • @The_Andyman
    @The_Andyman3 жыл бұрын

    The whole disaster is just one big, “but wait, it gets worse!”

  • @TheGreenKnight500

    @TheGreenKnight500

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's like a massive highway pileup but in slow motion and more lives at stake.

  • @Benhardyfan

    @Benhardyfan

    3 жыл бұрын

    For real. Two submarines sinking with no survivors, even way after the battle. This is fucked

  • @Titanium

    @Titanium

    3 жыл бұрын

    I felt a bit of relief every time those animations showed the subs and ships narrowly missing each other... just for it to zoom back out and show MORE subs and ships racing directly towards each other. And it just kept happening.

  • @javsandarts

    @javsandarts

    3 жыл бұрын

    The first part is a big Fisher: But what if I do anywaaaay?

  • @Calvin_Coolage

    @Calvin_Coolage

    3 жыл бұрын

    At least the Kamchatka wasn't present.

  • @torchthe62nd63
    @torchthe62nd633 жыл бұрын

    I have said "Are you FUCKING kidding me!" at least 16 times and I'm only like, halfway in. Holy shit what a trainwreck. I feel absolutely horrible for everyone who lost their lives in this disaster.

  • @artbk

    @artbk

    3 жыл бұрын

    What were your total?

  • @maruku4445

    @maruku4445

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey! Trains can't go in water. Only ships and subs do. More like a shipwreck.

  • @bigbeefscorcho

    @bigbeefscorcho

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just keep saying “oh god no, oh god NO”

  • @TheAceLewis

    @TheAceLewis

    3 жыл бұрын

    “Dude what the fuck?” Was mine.

  • @kodikrumrey9060

    @kodikrumrey9060

    3 жыл бұрын

    How many times can a ship decide to steer port side to evade collision. Only to be met by chaos.

  • @trash-heap3989
    @trash-heap39892 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely "loved" this, the research, script, animation and music all work so well together bringing us a haunting history dive into a disaster of arrogance, poor design, incompetence, communication problems, and a little bit of bad luck, all spilling into a cauldron of terrible weather conditions to bring about one the worst disasters in naval history. Great work! Truly amazing work to everyone involved.

  • @zeriel9148

    @zeriel9148

    7 ай бұрын

    I think the main takeaway I get from this is that night-time naval missions before radar were fucking suicidal. Even just going back and forth in the mist could result in death with no ability to know where other ships were. Something that just would never happen after this era.

  • @sugarkane1571

    @sugarkane1571

    7 ай бұрын

    My other takeaway from this is that most suffering of workers/soldiers come from the disconnected hubris of upper management. The unfortunate fact of war is that human lives are a resource to use and take away, but these admirals are so far removed from the war that they gamble away lives like a playboy just for the sake of proving they’re right. I’m not a war buff, but I think it’s also a huge mentality of the Great War, just throwing people at a barbed wall like a subtraction game, while the aristocrats of countries lie in comfort since “die” is a 3 letter word.

  • @mainman5390
    @mainman53907 ай бұрын

    LETS GO FOR THE THREE YEAR ANNIVERSARY FREDRICK LESS GOOOOO🥳🎉🎉

  • @AGrayPhantom
    @AGrayPhantom3 жыл бұрын

    The word "arrogance" seems to pop up a lot in The Great War.

  • @eddedmonds5753

    @eddedmonds5753

    3 жыл бұрын

    It really was so critical. Dan Carlin's Hardcore History series on WW1 goes into it in fantastic detail. Politics and arrogance abound.

  • @qwellen7521

    @qwellen7521

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@eddedmonds5753 “just run at the machine gun nest, it’s going to work at some point”

  • @claytonreeves150

    @claytonreeves150

    3 жыл бұрын

    The only thing to match human ingenuity is human arrogance, after all.

  • @neolancer005

    @neolancer005

    3 жыл бұрын

    A lot of Europe's generals were around the end of rank and file combat and were members of the upper class

  • @volodymyrbilyk555

    @volodymyrbilyk555

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what's it was all about

  • @pleasedontwastefood
    @pleasedontwastefood3 жыл бұрын

    "Ooof that was a close near-collision, I'm glad those guys made it through." Fredrik Knudsen: "But wait; there's more!"

  • @EmmanQuinones5234

    @EmmanQuinones5234

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your pfp describes the whole video perfectly. *Pain.* Especially when K6 bisected K4. That was just....yeah...

  • @docdave15

    @docdave15

    3 жыл бұрын

    Watchers: F**K!

  • @ekathe85

    @ekathe85

    3 жыл бұрын

    "But this would not last"

  • @peppermorrison
    @peppermorrison Жыл бұрын

    Never have I wailed "NO" so repeatedly

  • @do3807
    @do38073 жыл бұрын

    Some sailor: "Is it normal for submarines to dive backwards?" The superiors: "Ah, shit..." Edit, because it's more than just yucks: The M2 was found sunken, with the hangar doors open, and the plane inside. It's assumed the doors were opened too soon after the vessel surfaced, and were possibly jammed. So then water flooded in on the back end, and weighed it down so much, that it looked like it was just diving backwards. The men inside probably lasted long enough to panic, but not long enough to call it in, let alone fix it, or get out.

  • @beytullahberk3632

    @beytullahberk3632

    3 жыл бұрын

    lmaoo i feel so bad for laughing at that part

  • @nikai_vil3893

    @nikai_vil3893

    3 жыл бұрын

    that was the worse death, they all suffocated, i wonder who long they lasted and what happend on that sub.

  • @Tinlion09

    @Tinlion09

    3 жыл бұрын

    imagine supervising the M1's dive test. "Sir, they're supposed to _come back up_ at some point, right?"

  • @ToyokaX

    @ToyokaX

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't quite understand what he meant by "dive backwards". As in, it moved backwards? Is that really serious? I figured that most subs usually stay upright or w/e when diving. I don't understand how diving backwards would cause issues, can someone explain?

  • @Tinlion09

    @Tinlion09

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ToyokaX I think you actually stated the problem yourself there. I'm not an expert, but as far as I know, submarines are generally _supposed_ to submerge evenly. If the front or back goes down first, then that might indicate a serious issue with the ballast.

  • @Questionable_Content
    @Questionable_Content3 жыл бұрын

    Some fisherman: "So is it normal for submarines to dive backwards?" The royal navy: "WHAT⁉️"

  • @JustKrin

    @JustKrin

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Did you say *BACKWARDS* ??!!"

  • @ShroudedWolf51

    @ShroudedWolf51

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well... British. So, "....I beg your pardon?"

  • @collinwood6573

    @collinwood6573

    2 жыл бұрын

    "well, normally submarines... wait.. did you say backwards!?"

  • @speedenforcer918

    @speedenforcer918

    2 жыл бұрын

    (spits out their tea)

  • @alexstransky8143
    @alexstransky81432 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why but now I want Fredrik Knudsen to just voice more war documentaries just cause his voice has that feeling of tension that is perfect for them.

  • @kittykattzee
    @kittykattzee Жыл бұрын

    Holy crap this needs a movie. Seriously, the suspense and the horror is insane.

  • @riograndedosulball248
    @riograndedosulball2483 жыл бұрын

    The amount of anxiety this is giving me is horrid, when I think "oh okay, now it's gotta end right?" Another ship appears and it keeps getting worse

  • @giuseppetiso531

    @giuseppetiso531

    3 жыл бұрын

    Knudson: HOWEVER...

  • @timbusfahrer3172

    @timbusfahrer3172

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Oh man i sure got lucky that this Destroyer missed me and didn't cut me into ribbo... wait is that 5 more of them?"

  • @BloodfelX

    @BloodfelX

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its like a trainwreck spanning multiple tracks and dozens of trains... except depending on the severity of the crash the trains will sink into the earth killing literally everyone aboard.

  • @shitbuttpoopfuck8664
    @shitbuttpoopfuck86642 жыл бұрын

    Few things inspire more dread than hearing Fredrick Knudsen say "however".

  • @diegorincon4673

    @diegorincon4673

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good lord. You shits going down when he says that.

  • @mysteriousknowledgetexts9809

    @mysteriousknowledgetexts9809

    2 жыл бұрын

    THE ILLUMINATI / CIA CREATE AN UNDETECTABLE MIND CONTROL SLAVE BOOK. (walk in the rain) on my channel :)

  • @ShermTank7272

    @ShermTank7272

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mysteriousknowledgetexts9809 Joke's on you, I can't read

  • @Blisterdude123

    @Blisterdude123

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShermTank7272 Jokes on you, they probably can't even spell.

  • @Livingontheweb
    @Livingontheweb Жыл бұрын

    Showed up made banger after banger disappeared without a trace. Based.

  • @coryfusting9294

    @coryfusting9294

    Жыл бұрын

    He turned into an owl and talks to other animals on twitch

  • @Treyman-yi7ei

    @Treyman-yi7ei

    Жыл бұрын

    Tbf he's left a lot of traces he gives consistent updates on his Patreon

  • @jamesanthony3691
    @jamesanthony3691 Жыл бұрын

    This was an Excellent mostly forgotten historical documentary. I have watched thousands of history documentaries & this is on of the best I’ve watched. Simple but very detailed & entertaining. I don’t know if you still make videos like this anymore but sure hope you do more.

  • @sultanexuma2157
    @sultanexuma21572 жыл бұрын

    "Damn the K-class really sucks" *But what if we added a big gun?*

  • @roberte2945

    @roberte2945

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or a plane!?

  • @beesong2450

    @beesong2450

    2 жыл бұрын

    It added a new feature lmao

  • @johnr797

    @johnr797

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha jk *unless...*

  • @bigmanshad

    @bigmanshad

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great idea! What else could possibly go wrong?

  • @cumulushalo576

    @cumulushalo576

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@roberte2945 Crewman: What's the plane for? Captain: So I can escape. I mean... search for u-boats. 😏

  • @abysmal-mourning
    @abysmal-mourning2 жыл бұрын

    I would’ve laughed harder at the “is it usual for submarines to dive backwards?” if 60 men hadn’t died

  • @t.y2974

    @t.y2974

    2 жыл бұрын

    With the buildup and the horror of the previous shit, I felt a chill of terror and horrific realization when he said that

  • @johnr797

    @johnr797

    2 жыл бұрын

    Harder?

  • @Chopstewie

    @Chopstewie

    2 жыл бұрын

    God, 60 lives just burnt away for the sake of avoiding embarrassment.

  • @Intestine_Ballin-ism

    @Intestine_Ballin-ism

    2 жыл бұрын

    NIGHT AND LOVE

  • @abysmal-mourning

    @abysmal-mourning

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Intestine_Ballin-ism YES!! you have a great taste in music my good sir

  • @DLTA64
    @DLTA64 Жыл бұрын

    for anybody wondering: his next video will be about EVE Online, and (according to his twitter) it will be out in August

  • @bradtolch

    @bradtolch

    Жыл бұрын

    Tyvm. I don't use twitter and was about to ask what happened to his channel.

  • @velho3942
    @velho3942 Жыл бұрын

    Ok pimp, time to post a new 3 hour video that I can listen to a dozen times while working.

  • @portgax

    @portgax

    Жыл бұрын

    He's working on a 6 hour long one

  • @Bartnuschler
    @Bartnuschler2 жыл бұрын

    "Smashing the Periscope with a hammer" What a wild time to be alive

  • @erikrungemadsen2081

    @erikrungemadsen2081

    2 жыл бұрын

    Early air combat was pilots throwing bricks at each others propellers, and firing pistols and sawed of shootguns at each other.

  • @8bitorgy

    @8bitorgy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the most ironic thing you can say about WW1.

  • @deusexaethera

    @deusexaethera

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's such an absurdly British tactic, too. "I say old chap, submarines are unsporting!"

  • @foof811

    @foof811

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was like Submarine Polo

  • @aggrogator4045

    @aggrogator4045

    2 жыл бұрын

    WW1 truly was a GREAT War 😎

  • @DarknessInferno15
    @DarknessInferno153 жыл бұрын

    The saddest part of this whole affair is that the men aboard these submarines and ships were very talented sailors. Their quick actions stopped what could have easily been a much greater loss of life. But they were sealed in death traps; ticking time bombs. They were sent to their death by their incompetent superior officers, plain and simple.

  • @LeastSaneBRDMain

    @LeastSaneBRDMain

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not just incompetence, it's pure hubris. Their higher ups refused to adapt to the changing times and the true methodology of warfare. Their refusal to break from their "one fleet" ideology, make death traps that were borderline impossible at the time and to an extent even today, and even after such a harrowing disaster, they refused to admit their defeat and would rather cover up their obvious mistakes then actually be punished for it. If I even heard about this at the time, I would make sure EVERYONE knows about this; these men should have been held accountable while they were alive, and those who died should have had their loved ones told about what happened.

  • @Zebo12345678

    @Zebo12345678

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely. Some of those maneuvers were intensely skilled, but there is only so much that skill can do for you in those conditions. There was no reason for such a horrific tragedy like this. None whatsoever.

  • @MrPooleish

    @MrPooleish

    3 жыл бұрын

    "This could have been worse" is a haunting thought

  • @MarkoArillius

    @MarkoArillius

    3 жыл бұрын

    That and that none of the surviving sailors shot their admirals.

  • @legateelizabeth

    @legateelizabeth

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think that's basically the entire First World War, especially for the British (at least in our cultural memory). "Brave men sent to death by incompetent superiors."

  • @hardyworld
    @hardyworld2 жыл бұрын

    I found this documentary fascinating and I've now watched it 4 times over the last 9 months (why does this not have more views?). Production was excellent and it has a great script. I look forward to more content like this from this team.

  • @brandonmerideth481
    @brandonmerideth4812 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always! Narration is professional grade, depth of information is excellent, and pictures and graphics are terrific for visualizing what you are discussing. Keep up the amazing work!!

  • @floatinghamstick
    @floatinghamstick2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine casually asking if it was normal for a submarine to dive backwards and being told no.

  • @KlaxontheImpailr

    @KlaxontheImpailr

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did he mean diving while going in reverse or diving stern first?

  • @joshuadickinson4614

    @joshuadickinson4614

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KlaxontheImpailr Presumably the latter.

  • @g1sbi
    @g1sbi2 жыл бұрын

    Man, it’s one thing to die in war, but dying in such a needless way is so depressing.

  • @Armadill0h

    @Armadill0h

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s really all needless

  • @Ramsonpwndz

    @Ramsonpwndz

    2 жыл бұрын

    "dying in such a needless way" WW1 In a nutshell

  • @dragonsword7370

    @dragonsword7370

    2 жыл бұрын

    Operation tiger I think it was called. When the allies in ww2 were field dressing the d-day beach landing in the English southern coast. The flotilla of men cargo ships and men in Higgins landing boats were mistaken for an enemy landing force and shot at. Many numbers were killed and injured. It was buried because it was a week before June 6th and for secrecy.

  • @LuizAlexPhoenix

    @LuizAlexPhoenix

    2 жыл бұрын

    The whole war was needless, the main leaders were all fucking cousins, since they all shared Victoria as their grandma.

  • @Sillimant_

    @Sillimant_

    2 жыл бұрын

    dying in war is already pointless. you die for the politicians, who refuse to talk like normal people until thousands are needlessly killed

  • @NovianLeVanMusic
    @NovianLeVanMusic Жыл бұрын

    Hope you return, and I hope all is well! 2023 is around the corner!

  • @praisekek8606
    @praisekek860610 ай бұрын

    Please come back Fredrik I miss your uploads

  • @Fionalah

    @Fionalah

    10 ай бұрын

    This was a great series. I wonder where he went?

  • @crystalkami5166

    @crystalkami5166

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Fionalah he's still working on his latest video, which hopefully should be out sometime by the end of this year. Unfortunately, he decided to do a video on a subject that's everchanging and constantly evolving, so the script just kept getting longer as new events began to unfold. I think once it's out, it'll be one of his best works yet, and hopefully he'll return to a more normal schedule.

  • @TroubleToby3040

    @TroubleToby3040

    10 ай бұрын

    @@crystalkami5166 Listen, I don't pay him a dime and his content is excellent so he can do what he wants... But what the f@#k are YOU doing? Are you paid to apologize for this guy? Do you have issues of your own that might be a more reasonable use of your time? It doesn't take two years to make a 100-million-dollar epic film! Do you foresee him being able to release something that undeniably justifies TWO YEARS without content? No. Nothing could do that. Obviously. Also, why not just sneak a couple of real quickie videos in while apologizing for the unjustifiable wait? Right? It's free to me, so fine, but this amount of delay CAN'T be legitimate.

  • @crystalkami5166

    @crystalkami5166

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TroubleToby3040 nah man, I'm just a fan who likes to keep up with his work. It's purely courtesy to tell people what's going on with the next video when they're out of the loop. iirc he sneaks stuff on his patreon and will post stuff about it on his twitter but when the subject he's doing this time (EVE Online) is such a fickle and everchanging one you'd understand the extreme delays. This is a five hour long video we're talking about, covering one of the most complex, rich, and interesting video game histories of all time, it's going to take a while. Take a chill pill and just wait.

  • @panged

    @panged

    5 ай бұрын

    ok he did

  • @Severalangrybees
    @Severalangrybees2 жыл бұрын

    "What the hell are you doing?" Shouted the man who had just moments prior done PRECISELY the same thing

  • @v3ck1n

    @v3ck1n

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just tag me next time bro

  • @ericstevens8138

    @ericstevens8138

    2 жыл бұрын

    You know how road rage is fam

  • @lingricen8077

    @lingricen8077

    Жыл бұрын

    If you shouted that at me, then I would have no choice but to continue what I was doing *insouciantly*

  • @Kroggnagch

    @Kroggnagch

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol I thought that exact same thing

  • @Aerotides

    @Aerotides

    Жыл бұрын

    What the HELL are WE doing ? Just does not have the same punch tbh

  • @Loup-mx7yt
    @Loup-mx7yt2 жыл бұрын

    Someone: does something reasonable Narrator: *However*

  • @zealousjay1993

    @zealousjay1993

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @informitas0117

    @informitas0117

    2 жыл бұрын

    The k12 plowed into k14 which was rapidly followed by sharks with bees in their mouths and the Martians landing their flying saucer on k22. After some time the meteor struck.

  • @zealousjay1993

    @zealousjay1993

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@informitas0117 🤣🤣🤣 sounds accurate

  • @tombkings6279

    @tombkings6279

    2 жыл бұрын

    Narrator: "you have no power here I control how your story starts and ends."

  • @gracekelley2907

    @gracekelley2907

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@informitas0117 And then, the fire nation attacked.

  • @G4rfield
    @G4rfield11 ай бұрын

    Really miss you man. This channel is my favorite by far. I've watched every vid you've put out like 3 times now & I have yet to find another channel similar in content & quality. Hope the vid is still coming out relatively soon.

  • @imadequate3376
    @imadequate3376 Жыл бұрын

    We hope you are well Fredrik Love your videos.

  • @callusklaus2413
    @callusklaus24132 жыл бұрын

    "Dismantled for her metal" was the only good thing that happened in this story, jesus

  • @asneakylawngnome5792

    @asneakylawngnome5792

    2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine having to be the guy to clean and salvage the turbines the men fell into..oh god..

  • @thetwilightzone2403

    @thetwilightzone2403

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@asneakylawngnome5792 he probably had PTSD after looking at those turbines.

  • @lukk4123

    @lukk4123

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@asneakylawngnome5792 Probably felt similar to the guys cleaning up tank crew remains out of the damaged tanks. Horrible.

  • @MangaManiac16
    @MangaManiac163 жыл бұрын

    Even though this is just 2D shapes and dots on a black background, I couldn't help but be absolutely horrified and aghast when the ships plowed straight through the men in the water, and seeing the other ship torn in half... the terror those poor men suffered, what a terrible way to die, and yet they weren't even properly honored because the higher ups were to proud to admit their fault.

  • @MasterSanders

    @MasterSanders

    3 жыл бұрын

    Leaves more to the imagination, which in turn makes it scarier.

  • @BlueMoonSamurai

    @BlueMoonSamurai

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know! I was groaning and saying "Oh my god!" throughout the entire video.

  • @cadencressman

    @cadencressman

    3 жыл бұрын

    I literally kept yelling OH NO everytime one of them was about to hit the other lol

  • @harker-san6903

    @harker-san6903

    3 жыл бұрын

    I got terrible chills

  • @emeryltekutsu4357

    @emeryltekutsu4357

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know. Just knowing that the dots were people, even with such simple drawings it was horrific.

  • @anthonyhughes8026
    @anthonyhughes8026 Жыл бұрын

    That was straight up incredible. Unnerving, well-narrated, well scored, brilliantly scripted. More importantly, I had no idea about this forgotten bit of history. Those poor men-like hell on Earth. I discovered you on The Official Podcast. Bravo, liked and subbed. Thank you.

  • @gowdsake7103

    @gowdsake7103

    5 ай бұрын

    Yet submarines are boats not ships

  • @ptrd4111
    @ptrd4111 Жыл бұрын

    I really hope you do more videos like this. The editing and music is just perfect

  • @Lutyrannus

    @Lutyrannus

    Жыл бұрын

    He's been working on a HUGE six-hour one for the last year and a half

  • @sebastiancase4173
    @sebastiancase41733 жыл бұрын

    Let's get deeply invested in something I didn't know two minutes ago

  • @PunishedNegativeZer0

    @PunishedNegativeZer0

    3 жыл бұрын

    After this, look up the battle of Ramree island. They were all devoured by gators.

  • @mariaquiet6211

    @mariaquiet6211

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PunishedNegativeZer0 goddamn you. There goes the rest of my morning. Two or three more islands and my whole day is fucked.

  • @PunishedNegativeZer0

    @PunishedNegativeZer0

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mariaquiet6211 So I shouldn't tell you about: Cargo Cults: islands with indigenous people that worship planes like gods because they used to drop supplies on the islands Helligo Island: one of the largest non-nuclear explosions of all time Anthrax island: an island used to test anthrax as a biological weapon Jekyll Island: a self governing island located a small distance off georgia

  • @thanatoast

    @thanatoast

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is what "Down The rabbit hole" culture looks like.

  • @mariaquiet6211

    @mariaquiet6211

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PunishedNegativeZer0 Lol I'm gone... goodbye world...

  • @hiddenshadow2105
    @hiddenshadow21053 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts through the battle "Please, everybody, JUST STOP MOVING, PLEASE!"

  • @Zombiewizard

    @Zombiewizard

    3 жыл бұрын

    especially at 41:21

  • @Kobold1650

    @Kobold1650

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much, had an old naval Leutenent Comander talk about CBDR ( we are on track to crash in layman) and he said the only thing you can do that is pretty much fool proof is slow down or stop.

  • @hiddenshadow2105

    @hiddenshadow2105

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Zombiewizard And then at 43:54 5th battle squadron arrived.

  • @lyravain6304

    @lyravain6304

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hiddenshadow2105 Insert Avatar narrator voice: "Everything was going to hell and then the 5th battle squadron showed up"

  • @hiddenshadow2105

    @hiddenshadow2105

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lyravain6304 Exactly.

  • @jamesballew5001
    @jamesballew5001 Жыл бұрын

    You make the absolute best videos of this kind. I hope to see some more of your amazing work soon, it is greatly missed.

  • @G4rfield

    @G4rfield

    Жыл бұрын

    So do I :( but he regularly streams on twitch if you’re willing to listen for a few hours! :)

  • @JustHereForTheDialogue
    @JustHereForTheDialogue Жыл бұрын

    I hate waiting for your vids but it’s always such a banger when it finally comes out. Hoping you have something currently in the works.

  • @thegrimcritic5494
    @thegrimcritic54942 жыл бұрын

    The instant he mentioned that the British thought steam engines would work for submarines I knew some next-level bullshit was about to go down.

  • @squ1dd13

    @squ1dd13

    2 жыл бұрын

    “chugga chugga boom drown”

  • @d.aardent9382

    @d.aardent9382

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ehhh im no engineer but that sounds pretty messed up idea.

  • @josharmstrong8813

    @josharmstrong8813

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@d.aardent9382 it seems forever go down in history as one of those instantly recognisable bad ideas like the steam powered aircraft and the nuclear powered train Oh and that nuclear-powered bomber the Americans tried making that one time

  • @carlwinslo

    @carlwinslo

    2 жыл бұрын

    they woulda been better off ramming them like they did everyone else

  • @mwaters421

    @mwaters421

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unreal

  • @jimbones8795
    @jimbones87953 жыл бұрын

    that play-by-play was one of the most stressful things i've ever listened to

  • @hariman7727

    @hariman7727

    3 жыл бұрын

    The use of music and sound effects in this video elevates the tension of this seaborn tragedy so much.

  • @CountJoe1

    @CountJoe1

    3 жыл бұрын

    when those destroyers were encroaching on the survivors in the watermy mouth was agape in disbelief and anticipation of the horrifying event that was to come.

  • @saltt1
    @saltt12 жыл бұрын

    We all miss you Fredrik Knudsen hopefully your hiatus comes to an end and we can get more rabbit hole videos!

  • @Jakewubadub
    @Jakewubadub Жыл бұрын

    I can't wait for the next video dude. Ive watched this a few times now I think you would do really well with multiple hour long narrations. 5 hours are gonna pass by so quickly 😪

  • @IronMoose95
    @IronMoose952 жыл бұрын

    I'm watching ovals slowly slide around black screen and yet I feel like I'm gonna pass out. This video is a masterpiece

  • @rhettorical

    @rhettorical

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not since the WingsOfRedemption video have I so raptly watched a diagram

  • @gierasole

    @gierasole

    2 жыл бұрын

    haha right?? how is it so fucking tense, they're just like lil toys fuckin around and i feel queasy

  • @garrysekelli6776

    @garrysekelli6776

    2 жыл бұрын

    The little dots are my favorite part of the animation.

  • @Madison-ur2qn

    @Madison-ur2qn

    2 жыл бұрын

    The horror of watching the ovals run over the little dots.... god.

  • @swapsplat
    @swapsplat10 ай бұрын

    Jesus... It's been 2 years since you uploaded... C'mon man!

  • @spiritus2475
    @spiritus24752 жыл бұрын

    It's called a battle, and they literally didn't engage in a single enemy. And the worst part is, a battle is still an appropriate thing to call it.

  • @NotAGoodUsername360

    @NotAGoodUsername360

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well they never identified the two unknown ships that set the dominoes off, maybe it WAS an enemy?

  • @zaleost

    @zaleost

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NotAGoodUsername360 One would think that if these ships were then they would have tried to engage the subs or that something else nearby would have been targeted, but it seems nothing like that was reported. It could have just been a pair of the mine sweeping ships went off course and didn't realise where they were or they might have been fishing ships or something. I suppose the key problem is that if they didn't find the answer at the time, there is little we can do now to find it either with any level of certainty.

  • @Jack_Woods

    @Jack_Woods

    2 жыл бұрын

    Here on the internet we call it The Bruh Moment Incident

  • @DonVigaDeFierro

    @DonVigaDeFierro

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's referred to as a "Battle" in a tone of mockery.

  • @huleyn135

    @huleyn135

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NotAGoodUsername360 Wikipedia says the two unknown ships were British minesweepers. Because of wartime secrecy, the minesweepers were not informed of this exercise, and had no idea about this. And the exercise navy had no idea about the minesweepers either.

  • @bgarbled
    @bgarbled6 ай бұрын

    So well done... not since watching U571 have I felt such excitement over naval history... thank you! Great job The unfathomable bravery of these men and men like them (and all they sacrificed for their families and other men who didn't deserve what they gave) should NEVER be forgotten.. thank you again

  • @alexmontenegro9991
    @alexmontenegro9991 Жыл бұрын

    By far your best doc. Love your work.

  • @FANCIAS911
    @FANCIAS9113 жыл бұрын

    So when I first started watching this I was like "alright, they're gonna mistake the K classes for U boats and start shooting at them". I don't think I possibly could have predicted the true incompetence that took place that night

  • @terrathelunatic

    @terrathelunatic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Im right there with you bro.

  • @jaxom

    @jaxom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol that's what I thought too.

  • @Szyperak

    @Szyperak

    3 жыл бұрын

    Only problem being that the real incompetence took place not on that night, and hundreds of kilometers away - in headquarters

  • @LSparkzwz

    @LSparkzwz

    3 жыл бұрын

    The fleet wasn't incompetent, the situation itself was a disaster while they were forced to follow orders from the real incompetent people

  • @Simjorfeo

    @Simjorfeo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Name one mistake you wouldn't have made in this situation without the benefit of hindsight

  • @nintendonut11
    @nintendonut113 жыл бұрын

    I am Enraged that it took over SEVENTY YEARS for a memorial to be created for them. Thank you for putting all of their names at the end, that means more than can be said in words.

  • @Jay22222

    @Jay22222

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except for perhaps.. The words at the end of the video. You know, the words with their names.

  • @matthewharper7333

    @matthewharper7333

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Jay22222 Oh Jack, leave Kelsey alone- they are Enraged with a capital E about a naval mishap that happened over 70 years ago. Actaully it was a 103 years ago- but neverless... why would anyone have an emotional connection with this?

  • @DreamTraveller1

    @DreamTraveller1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@matthewharper7333 Heaven forbid that someone criticises an institution for sweeping a tragedy under the rug to save face, and heaven forbid similarly that anyone has an emotional reaction to aforesaid tragedy, which took over 100 lives through misfortune and the incompetence of those at the top of the chain.

  • @MPSmaruj

    @MPSmaruj

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@matthewharper7333 "Why would anyone have an emotional connection with this?" Well, perhaps because it was due to mistakes and arrogance of people in command and, in case you haven't noticed, the ones in command today in most if not all places where decisions weigh on life or death of others are also people. It's almost as if documentary about human flaws leading to massive amounts of easily preventable deaths 100 years ago may have some significance to us. It might be a shocking revelation to you, but mankind has not dramatically changed in the span of such a massively long time. Sarcasm over.

  • @matthewharper7333

    @matthewharper7333

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MPSmaruj The majority of the mishaps were caused by poor military doctrine regarding new weapon platforms and fleet movement. The military is inherently dangerous. Even without enemy fire, men and equipment are pressed into unsafe situations that can, and will, cause death. In this case, 3 floatillas are moving close to one another at night and with limited visiablity due to fog. Communications, apperantly, are also limited. A strange equipment malfuntion, the steering jammed on one of the subs, began a series of accidents. Upper level brass are arrogent and closed minded- but they have to be because of the very nature of command. They hear so many ideas about how things should be run from so many people promoting their own agenda that a decision has to be made and the commander has to be resolute. Things may go well and the results are ignored (for example, we don't hear about the movements of southern fleet in the video. They were sailing in the same weather but arrived at point without an accident) or lauded as a hero. Things may go poorly, such as this event or countless others (like Gen Haig, a few years earlier who thought machine guns were ineffective and had 20,000 of 60,000 men killed in a few min's when he ordered a frontal attack on the German lines. He would go on to rack up a 260,000 deaths of his own troops before relieved of command). While it's easy to crap on these bad decisions- a poor decision is still better than an irresolute officer. For example, look at Gen Elphonstone, whose weak and irresolute character lead to the complete failure of the British army in Afganistan. Or, Gen McCellan who could have, arguably, ended the American Civil War in 1862 if he had counter-attacked Lee. My points are- the military is a very dangerous occupation. Even in peacetime or not under enemy fire. Those in command don't have a way to see the future and decisions are mostly made in the dark. There are always compeating ideas and there is really no way of telling which one is the best. Because the men who make these decisions are responsible for them, they tend to go with their own ideas. "Make you own mistakes- not someone else's." To be resolute is better than not to be. The Battle of May Island was a series of accidents caused by bad luck, bad communications, and bad doctrine.

  • @owendrungle
    @owendrungle Жыл бұрын

    Considering you've raked in over 80k on patreon since the last upload, I'm expecting this Eve video to be worth 80k lmfao

  • @NerpTheCat

    @NerpTheCat

    Жыл бұрын

    w math

  • @bru4773

    @bru4773

    9 ай бұрын

    Its 6 hours long, so there's that. And his patrons have been getting regular updates of his progress - any of them that were frustrated with his progress unsubbed long ago.

  • @dubsthelegacy
    @dubsthelegacy8 ай бұрын

    I miss this series 😢

  • @Lonech

    @Lonech

    6 ай бұрын

    well you're in luck! :) get ready to lose 6 horus of your life

  • @karlt.joyful5969
    @karlt.joyful59693 жыл бұрын

    A deadly "battle" where not a single shot was fired and the enemy, hubris and poor choices, clearly won.

  • @arciks11

    @arciks11

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not unheard of. during WW2 Germany lost to itself in an Aircraft/Ship engagement where both German sides confused each other for enemy.

  • @SteffenBauer

    @SteffenBauer

    3 жыл бұрын

    depends if flares count

  • @arciks11

    @arciks11

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Rafael Enriquez Thanks for the name of it. I only remembered the rough outline from Qxir's video on it.

  • @docdave15

    @docdave15

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's almost like a real life Twilight zone episode.

  • @PaP384

    @PaP384

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@arciks11 the royal navy also accidentally shot at each other during the chase of the Bismarck

  • @GeisKing1
    @GeisKing12 жыл бұрын

    "M1 dove during an exercise and simply never came back up. Drowning all 60 men aboard." ... How could this possibly... "M2..." Oh lord NO.

  • @theonlybass8947

    @theonlybass8947

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m sure on the official documentation of the accident it says something like “M1 has been reassigned to a permanent subaqueous position”

  • @GeisKing1

    @GeisKing1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@theonlybass8947 At this point I wouldn't be surprised.

  • @CharlesStearman

    @CharlesStearman

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was actually determined pretty quickly that M1 had been hit by a merchant ship while submerged. In the case of M2, it was though that the crew had opened the hanger door too soon after surfacing, before it was fully clear of the water.

  • @warrenjehosephat231

    @warrenjehosephat231

    2 жыл бұрын

    IT KEEPS HAPPENING

  • @SatchPersaud-sm1gc
    @SatchPersaud-sm1gc4 ай бұрын

    Wtf, I been subscribed to this channel and just realized the amount of great content on this channel, gotta stop working so much and treat my mind to some good mental snacks

  • @grimaper
    @grimaper9 ай бұрын

    Somebody should make a down the rabbit hole on down the rabbit hole.

  • @Flugmorph

    @Flugmorph

    8 ай бұрын

    hes a vtuber now, aka based.

  • @AlphaCarinae

    @AlphaCarinae

    7 ай бұрын

    The only thing they would be able to make a video on is the legion of butthurt losers who are unreasonably upset that he decided to do something else

  • @Flugmorph

    @Flugmorph

    7 ай бұрын

    @@AlphaCarinae based

  • @LordVarkson
    @LordVarkson3 жыл бұрын

    "The Australia, The New Zealand, The Indomitable and The Inflexible" This sounds like a bit in a comedy act, not a retelling of history.

  • @Peaceful3arth

    @Peaceful3arth

    2 жыл бұрын

    An Australia, a New Zealand, an Indomitable, and an inflexible sail into fog...

  • @bobskywalker2707

    @bobskywalker2707

    2 жыл бұрын

    New Zealand’s captain wore Maori war gear during the battle for good luck.

  • @deweycox8409
    @deweycox84092 жыл бұрын

    Between this and Internet Historian's the Cost of Concordia, I am staying on dry ground as God intended.

  • @3three3three3three

    @3three3three3three

    2 жыл бұрын

    both ships were cursed by the number 13. but i agree with you

  • @LuizAlexPhoenix

    @LuizAlexPhoenix

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dunno, maybe Poseidon is feeling angry that navies have forgotten him.

  • @worldcomicsreview354

    @worldcomicsreview354

    2 жыл бұрын

    Read The Atlantic article on the Estonia, if you want a really bad night in.

  • @zephyrus339

    @zephyrus339

    2 жыл бұрын

    Then I'd better not going to tell you about Drachinifel's channel.

  • @burningphoneix

    @burningphoneix

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's why they wrote the Sea Chanty: ♪Ye gentlemen of England♪ ♪Who live home at ease,♪ ♪It's little do you think♪ ♪Of the dangers of the seas;♪

  • @purgeaddiction
    @purgeaddiction Жыл бұрын

    I wish you still made videos. They are all so well made.

  • @Igorcastrochucre
    @Igorcastrochucre2 жыл бұрын

    I had this conversation with someone once that went like: "The main difference between Star Wars and Star Trek is like the difference between a fighter jet and a submarine, one is supposed to be fast paced action of a full frontal assault other is supposed to be slow, stealthy and use force when absolute necessary. If you try to make one do what the other does, you clearly have no idea what you're doing."

  • @matchaia
    @matchaia3 жыл бұрын

    It almost feels fake, the amount of times you had to report that a ship was steering away from another ship ONLY to put it on a crash course with the next ship behind it... 😬

  • @Xtoff

    @Xtoff

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s like if the power cut to a nightclub then from the darkness someone yells “FUCKIN RUN!”. Big lumbering drunks running in every which way and after time people crash there’s a long pause as their drunk brain tries to process what happened.

  • @nooneinparticular3370

    @nooneinparticular3370

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's one of those things that, were you to see it in a movie, you'd think it's ridiculously exaggerated for cheap drama. And yet it happened...

  • @joshuamiller8235

    @joshuamiller8235

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nooneinparticular3370 This definitely needs a movie adaptation IMO. It would pay respect to all those sailors that died that didn't get the respect they deserved from their country at the time.

  • @joshuamiller8235

    @joshuamiller8235

    2 жыл бұрын

    A chain reaction

  • @infamousgamer767
    @infamousgamer7673 жыл бұрын

    "Klaus are we ever going to take a shot at these Brits?" "I... I really don't think we need to."

  • @BloodfelX

    @BloodfelX

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Drive us in close, Klaus. Lets give them a handicap." "Sir they have fired a torpedo- impact is imminent!" *dud* "Well. There is their handicap. Set course back to Germany, Klaus."

  • @yelloweyeball

    @yelloweyeball

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Well we could just tell the Kaiser we were the ones who did it."

  • @ASAPShitPost

    @ASAPShitPost

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BloodfelX lol are you making this up or is this from something

  • @BloodfelX

    @BloodfelX

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ASAPShitPost Based on the incident mentioned in the video where the only time a K-Class came in contact with a U-Boat it hit it with a dud torpedo.

  • @Fuck_off2_1519_
    @Fuck_off2_1519_ Жыл бұрын

    It's been a year daddy, I really really miss u 😭

  • @WorldsWorstBoy
    @WorldsWorstBoy Жыл бұрын

    We miss you

  • @thisisfeedy5919
    @thisisfeedy59192 жыл бұрын

    I just imagine the German fleet watching this unfold from the distance and the observer deck guy going to his superior and saying: 'Günther, you're not going to believe this shit.'

  • @siennahartle9069

    @siennahartle9069

    2 жыл бұрын

    “Should we destroy them?” “Nah they seem to be doing a pretty good job of it themselves.” “I feel lazy we don’t even have to do anything!”

  • @NGorso1

    @NGorso1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@siennahartle9069 "we couldn't do it better ourselves"

  • @WhiteThunder121

    @WhiteThunder121

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Never distract your enemy when hes making a mistake." - Günther probably

  • @Kingkool-uo1ew

    @Kingkool-uo1ew

    2 жыл бұрын

    “i wish we brought the lawn chairs and popcorn.”

  • @Martmeisterpaladin

    @Martmeisterpaladin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Apparently, one of the main factors that led to the end of the First World War was the Imperial German Navy going on strike.

  • @TJ-5000
    @TJ-50002 жыл бұрын

    "...the price of this self-assuredness would be paid, not by those in command, but by those serving..." A great deal of British history in a nutshell.

  • @Todietipso

    @Todietipso

    2 жыл бұрын

    More like "in a k-class submarine"

  • @KaeYoss

    @KaeYoss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, that's how war works: The peons on the forefront pay for it all. Doesn't matter if the cause is justified or not, whether your side is attacker or defender, or anything else. The common soldier will take it in the shorts

  • @frankrodriguez9553

    @frankrodriguez9553

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is the history of ALL war....

  • @tamlandipper29

    @tamlandipper29

    2 жыл бұрын

    The really mind-blowing thing is that most of Britain's enemies were worse.

  • @professionalbeanie8342

    @professionalbeanie8342

    2 жыл бұрын

    More like most history tbh

  • @DuelistRL
    @DuelistRL Жыл бұрын

    My dude Fredrik is bringing an even creepier tone to his voice this time around. Been subbed a long time and it's cool to see you go for a more intense tone. Keep it up boiiiii

  • @Yassin.ibn.farouk

    @Yassin.ibn.farouk

    Жыл бұрын

    'Keep it up?' Dude uploads maybe twice a year

  • @DuelistRL

    @DuelistRL

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Yassin.ibn.farouk Kind of a pesmistic view haha like should I say stop?

  • @Go_away__
    @Go_away__2 жыл бұрын

    Please come back.

  • @LordRojo

    @LordRojo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nearly been over a year since the last video. Miss his content.

  • @panged

    @panged

    5 ай бұрын

    ur wish has been granted

  • @leftovernoise
    @leftovernoise3 жыл бұрын

    I have never been so intensely enthralled by a couple of black and white lines slowly moving past each other. Amazing work!

  • @obodobear

    @obodobear

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not funny shut up

  • @Arvidus89

    @Arvidus89

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes some abstract demonstrations and your imagination is more than enough to give a terryfying image.

  • @jacobstallard2678

    @jacobstallard2678

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now that could be a YT channel. Just some dude who loves naval battles and is willing to go through them frame by frame with black/white visuals overlayed.

  • @burkhardtniec3653

    @burkhardtniec3653

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobstallard2678 try drachinifel

  • @BoneTea

    @BoneTea

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Arvidus89 Look up "the first metal of honor ever recorded" if you have never seen it before.

  • @masterplusmargarita
    @masterplusmargarita3 жыл бұрын

    This is the sort of thing that could be hilarious as a dark, farcical, comedy of errors if it was a piece of fiction, but which is unbearably, heartbreakingly tragic as fact. The fact that so many people lost their lives because of these highborn clowns who never faced consequences has made me the saddest and angriest I've been in a while. Absolutely fucking tragic.

  • @sleepythemis

    @sleepythemis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. All of this was horrific, but my heart absolutely dropped when he got to the destroyers and the survivors of K17.

  • @Arthurzeiro

    @Arthurzeiro

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean, the brits made the movie "The Death of Stalin", but I doubt they'd make one mocking themselves.

  • @GarrusN7

    @GarrusN7

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is why I prefer to seek out these types of stories. Fiction really can't hold up when compared to shit like this. I wouldn't blame somebody if they thought this was fake; it's just so absurd.

  • @AverageAlien

    @AverageAlien

    2 жыл бұрын

    how can you blame the "highborn" when they weren't even in the battle? You seem like the clown here

  • @AverageAlien

    @AverageAlien

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Arthurzeiro wrong, brits always mock themselves

  • @radioactivepotato2068
    @radioactivepotato206811 ай бұрын

    I'd give my left Knudsen for a new video. I'm stuck watching the Collyer brothers, once a month for sustenance.

  • @coryfusting9294
    @coryfusting929411 ай бұрын

    So this video has been a pretty good hold-over for 24 months now. :) Surprised to even write that but thems the breaks sometimes. This channel had a pretty solid run for about 4 years or so, no shame. It's not my business if the new video drops or not at this point.