The Battle of Doiran - Turmoil In The French Army I THE GREAT WAR Week 144
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The Salonica Front had been quiet over the winter, but much like the recent battles on the Western Front, it erupted this week. The British Army tried to take the Bulgarian positions at Doiran - these positions might have been some of the best defences of the entire war. After the failed Nivelle Offensive, some French soldiers start to question the whole war.
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Fun Fact: After they took French prisoners during this time, the Bulgarians found French colonial troops panicking and screaming. Apparantly the French commanders told their African soldiers Bulgarians eat their prisoners and the men were terrified. And no they were merely taken prisoner, not eaten. Bet you wont get that as BF1 DLC
@atanasarnaudov8253
7 жыл бұрын
Hahahah that's one good story. By the way most Bulgarians at the time(just as today) had never seen a black person in real life. So when they first met Senegalise troops the men asked their officers are these humans and should they shoot them. As the war progressed Bulgarians developed a healthy respect for the colonials though, probably the toughest enemy we ever faced were those French African regiments.
@RLDragonStrider
7 жыл бұрын
Спокойно Българин съм :)
@summertimej7316
7 жыл бұрын
This have to be included in the war time propaganda series. :)
@brokenbridge6316
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds really strange.
@Filipao83
3 жыл бұрын
there is a racist joke, about this When the Bulgarians saw black colonial soldiers, they asked High Comand "What are these strange soldiers?" On this, the HQ answered "You can shoot them too. They are people too" :D
Oh god. The outro. "If you want to learn more about someone that has no idea what they're doing, here's our biospecial on Conrad von Hötzendorf" I lost it. My ribs hurt.
You should sell a shirt with Conrad, Haig, Nivelle, and Cadorna on it with "Call the morticians, I have a plan"
@augustopinochet2495
7 жыл бұрын
Randomly Named I would buy it
@manfredvoncoolstuff6071
7 жыл бұрын
I'd consider....
@finddeniro
6 жыл бұрын
Randomly Named ...tune your theme to current Times..2017...
@mrmoofle
4 жыл бұрын
...and a cunning plan at that.
@zlatko8051
4 жыл бұрын
I’ll pay for it
HEY GERMANY, I AM HAVING A OFFENSIVE SOON, HEY, DID YOU HEAR THAT AN OFFENSIVE ON THE WESTERNFRONT SOON, DON'T FORGET TO PREPARE YOUR DEFENSES! - Robert Nivelle 1917
@thogyt
7 жыл бұрын
Username 122748909298443 lol
@rickjames8117
7 жыл бұрын
that sounds like obama to isis
@Vanilla0729
7 жыл бұрын
Sounds more like Trump to Russia. "Hey, we're gonna send a bunch of missiles at your ally's airfield, you know, just FYI. Don't worry, we won't target anything important like the runway.
@paulvonhindenburg8674
7 жыл бұрын
Prepare a dictionary first
@JohnDoe-wo5on
7 жыл бұрын
Paul von Hindenburg Sharp as always Herr Von Hindenburg
🎵Their attack is coming, fight them back Bulgarians holding the line Facing wave after wave, will never surrender Again again again again They attack, Bulgaria held them back Unleash their counter barrage Let it rain artillery pounding the trenches No surrender, fight them till the end🎵 “The Valley Of Death” by Sabaton
@masterbaiter1688
9 ай бұрын
Fortified and made to defy. Outnumbered determined to win
In 1936 General Vazov was invited to a parade in Great Britain ... when the Bulgarian delegation passed ... the British Field Marshal said: Remove Flags! General Vazov passes the winner from Doiran !! :)
That line at the end about Conny was mean and you know it.
@SithLordLuna
7 жыл бұрын
The truth is mean.
@Rhodes1966
7 жыл бұрын
Not as mean as having one's face blown off.
@torestgard1681
7 жыл бұрын
the truth hurts
@ThatOneGuyWithAFork
7 жыл бұрын
+phloebs but its funny
@Porphyrogen
7 жыл бұрын
Conrad was a war criminal, to bad he escaped justice.
Respect Bulgaria
Bring down the flags! Here comes the winner of Doiran!
@tangra681d2
4 жыл бұрын
Simon Robson how?
@didoidol
4 жыл бұрын
@Simon Robson hahahhahahaha yeah loosing from a 10 times smaller army 😂😂😂😂
@rickastley2936
4 жыл бұрын
@Simon Robson THE HISTORY REMEMBERS THE WINERS, BUT IN THIS CASE THE LOOSER HAS TO BE REMEMBERED TOO - THE LOOSER LOOSED FROM A 10 TIMES SMALLER ARMY FULL OF VOLUNTEERS.
@SM-zx9mx
3 жыл бұрын
@Simon Robson Thousands of British graves still stand in North Macedonia. Go and take a look.
@robertsimms8174
3 жыл бұрын
@@didoidol But you lost the war .
5,000 British from a single brigade killed or wounded by their own artillery is one of the most horrifying accounts from this horrifying war. I'm surprised I've never heard of that before. That's like 20 charges of the Light Brigade, and self inflicted!
You should make a speical episode dedicated to general Vladimir Vazov - the "Victor of Doiran"!
@TheGreatWar
7 жыл бұрын
+Darth Radious what if we told you there will be an Ivan Kolev episode on Monday
@darthradious7011
7 жыл бұрын
Quite intriguing. I'll be looking forward to it ;) Congrats for the interesting episode (as always) and keep up the excellent work ;)
@ninus17
7 жыл бұрын
The Great War Can you make an episode about field Marshall Bernard Montgomery ( my great grand father is a cousin to Monty )
@pittoBG
7 жыл бұрын
will be waiting for that
@koomshiqta
7 жыл бұрын
The Great War, that would be a great choise! Bulgarians against their former liberators - the Russians. I expect the next episodes with excitement. Keep up the good work! :)
Many macedonians faught in the bulgarian army and many many died i see no congradulation's for their sacrefice! Respect from Macedonia to my bulgarian brother's! Слава 🇧🇬❤🇲🇰
@dagoduhate1912
4 жыл бұрын
In this time they will be one nation
@Bayganu
4 жыл бұрын
Most Bulgarians know that. It's Macedonians who don't remember!
@user-wg4pd8gq6g
4 жыл бұрын
Вие Македонците сте българи 😉
@carlustin4034
8 ай бұрын
Northmacedonians were invented later after second world war.
Българин да се наричам, първа радост е за мене!
@ivanemilov522
5 жыл бұрын
Аз съм българче свободно, в край свободен аз живея всичко българско и родно любя, тача и милея !!!
That segue to Conrad was classic :D
Finally, I've been waiting 3 years
@GerasimSimov
7 жыл бұрын
And so do I :)
Las time I was this early, millions and millions of young men were still alive :(
@Sheehan1
7 жыл бұрын
Drunk Joyless German :'(
@blankblank6545
7 жыл бұрын
Sad
9:00 -- D@mn Indy! that was a passionate condemnation of WW1 mission creep. Period marching song related: "We're here because we're here because we're here because we're here / We're here because we're here because we're here because we're here." (sung to the tune of 'Auld Lang Syne')
@dianedylan9438
7 жыл бұрын
harbl99 Another one to give morale an extra boost: If the sergeant drinks your rum, never mind And your face may lose its smile, never mind He’s entitled to a tot but not the bleeding lot If the sergeant drinks your rum, never mind When old Jerry shells your trench, never mind And your face may lose its smile, never mind Though the sandbags bust and fly you have only once to die, If old Jerry shells the trench, never mind If you get stuck on the wire, never mind And your face may lose its smile, never mind Though you’re stuck there all the day, they count you dead and stop your pay If you get stuck on the wire, never mind If the sergeant says your mad, never mind P’raps you are a little bit, never mind Just be calm don’t answer back, cause the sergeant stands no slack So if he says you’re mad, well - you are.
@The4books
7 жыл бұрын
"Hanging on the Old Barbed Wire" started to make the rounds about this time, as well. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging_on_the_Old_Barbed_Wire
@johnd2058
5 жыл бұрын
3:30 = moar passionate: 'flexible and deep and penetration gets surrounded' ;D
"It's a bad idea!"- Joesph Micheler The most sensible man in the world
I did it! After almost 5 months, I have completely caught up from the start in 1914! Thanks for awesome series, guys.
@TheGreatWar
7 жыл бұрын
Good job.
One of the best endings so far! The last part about Conrad being an example of not knowing what your doing was great!
The losses are just staggering
I want so much special episode for Doiran and genius general Vladimir Vazov
@Porphyrogen
7 жыл бұрын
No one cares about mediocre bulgarian general. Who is he anyway ? Some local bulg.warlord terrorizing serbian and greek civilians ?
@user-vg5zx4tn6u
7 жыл бұрын
Why so salty?
@pepitomov
7 жыл бұрын
Porphyrogen infact he is one of the best generals of the entire war. In the biggest battle for the trenches he fought 7:1 in favor of the British/French/Greeks and loosed only about 500 mans. For the entente they was like 67k or so. You can find some info in Wikipedia :) (sorry for bad English :( never had lessons)
@koomshiqta
7 жыл бұрын
Maby on monday we'll see an general Ivan Koleff episode. There're so many interesting ppl not only Bulgarians who deserve an episode. We have to wait... Иначе и аз си го чакам като топъл хляб :D
@Porphyrogen
7 жыл бұрын
Central Powers (Axis) puppet your so called bulg. 'military genious'. Real ones are for example: E.Rommel GER/ Z.Misic SRB/ A. von Mackensen GER/ S.Stepanovic SRB/ R.Putnik SRB/ J.Pershing USA/ C. de Gaulle FRA/ K.Ataturk TUR etc.
Bulgaria Holds The Line !
Man. I wish I had the optimism and delusions Haig had. What a state of mind
2:13 "The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire."
It is awesome to see the visible love for history Indie has, you can hear how he abhors the atrocities constantly being committed even just this week alone in his voice. This channel has done a great job finding a spokesperson with such passion.
Turmoil in the French Army? I think they need me back in command
@Porphyrogen
7 жыл бұрын
Sure but your moment will come in 20 years or so :)
Watching this while in doiran :)))
@dunavskakarakuda
4 жыл бұрын
Е тва е. Евала
Question for OOTT: Were captured British tanks (beutepanzers) ever re-captured by the British and then have to once again be re-outfitted? Thanks for all the hard work, been watching since 14'
@MephLeo
7 жыл бұрын
That would involve a great deal of shenanigans, now that I think about it.
@harrymanocha4533
7 жыл бұрын
I Saw A Bear I'd love it if they just repainted a British flag over a German flag over a British flag and sent it straight back
@Rhodes1966
7 жыл бұрын
Kelly's Heroes is bad influence
@henrikmunkmadsen3190
6 жыл бұрын
+I Saw A Bear Heh, I know it's been months, but I _have_ to comment on the lovely choice of spelling, saying "since the 14-hundreds" instead of "since the 14s" :)
Last time I was this early, we were starting a revolution
@TheFreeRangeTofu
7 жыл бұрын
Joseph Stalin It's you! From ISorrows!
@josephstalin7129
7 жыл бұрын
Free Range Tofu you can find me wherever there is hearts of iron
@TheFreeRangeTofu
7 жыл бұрын
Joseph Stalin That sounds like a good man!
@stephen9869
7 жыл бұрын
Nah, Stalin hijacked a revoltion
@josephstalin2829
7 жыл бұрын
Last time is was this early, we were starting collectivism
Bulgaria: HOLD THE LINE! LOVE ISN'T ALWAYS ON TIME!
Love the ending. Reminds me of the old 2014-2015 endings Indy would have!! Those were epic and very moving, like this one was.
That mini-rant at the end was amazing. Finally, we see Indy break down over the complete stupidity of this war! I've been waiting for this day.
thank you Indy and the crew!
I love your explosive editorials at the end of each episode but this one is the best I’ve seen yet.
Comment section is full of entente personalities... RISE CENTRAL POWERS!
@user-ke4wr2hj1c
4 жыл бұрын
🇩🇪🇹🇷🇦🇹🇭🇺🇧🇬
@jeddkeech259
3 жыл бұрын
For German
@gonkdroid8589
3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm
@gonkdroid8589
3 жыл бұрын
When will I be free?
Well Indy I'm doing this My head is on Table. What A MESS. Keep up the Great work Indy, Flow and Great war Team
I think this is my last unplayed regular episide. Good work guys. Love your work I should have followed it from the beginning though -
Love this weeks summary
Amazing episode!!! Love the speech of indignation at the end!
Really loving the maps. Keep up the great work TGW Team.
@TheGreatWar
7 жыл бұрын
There will be more.
@frost587
7 жыл бұрын
MrMrshawn2000 Yeah! The map animations are supreme! Getting better day by day
@JohnSmith-dc3jt
7 жыл бұрын
Who doesnt like a good map. By the way can you tell what the awesome music is called playing in the backgroud at around 5:40-5:50ish when you are talking about Neville?
that was the best summary-ending of any great war episode ive seen.
Wow, that bridge to Conrad was pure gold!
Woooooo Bulgaria!
Wow, Indy. You blow me away sometimes with your candor.
GREAT IS THE BULGARIAN SOLDIER !!!!!
Bulgaria strong
@Raygun222
7 жыл бұрын
BULGARIA STRONK.
@deacon6453
7 жыл бұрын
ante peraic Poland can into space!
@trihodron3332
7 жыл бұрын
Mike Kapunan yes Poland can into space
@Ivanecat
5 жыл бұрын
GREAT IS THE BULGARIAN SOLDIER !!!!
@atanaspopov6204
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately - was strong
I love this show but it is interesting to note how tiring it is to keep track of all that is going on week by bloody week and just feeling exhausted by all the pointlessness of the fighting. I say interesting to note because my exhaustion of the war is nothing compared to the exhaustion of those who actually lived through it. It's just hard to imagine.
Indy's final monologue (8:48 to 9:48) is a glorious full minute of pure outrage at the absolute stupidity that this war was.
@Madhattersinjeans
6 жыл бұрын
Gets old after a few hundred episodes though. Same old axe to grind slightly different words used.
That segue at the end was amazing.
We're doing a WW1 project in school and I showed the teacher your videos so now we all get to watch your videos in class and it's the highlight of the school day😅
Crazy how a nation that emerged from Turkish occupation managed to make one of the most powerful armies in the world look absolutely incompetent.
@collector22
2 жыл бұрын
not crazy, just the Bulgarians have fought a couple of wars against every neighbor since 1885 to the first world war and people got the hang of it.
I'm sure that these so-called 'disturbances' in the French and Russian armies will turn out just fine. Haig's offensive in Flanders will be the final hammer blow to those German rotters, mark my words!
@TheGreatWar
7 жыл бұрын
Christmas back home I say!
"And nobody knows what's going on or what they're doing" -Indy Nidell, summarizing WWI
Starting at 9:04 , I love the expression Indy gives
Great Honor and Glory all warrior in battle.R.I.P.Great Heroes.Respekt from Bulgaria 🇧🇬 for 🇬🇧, 🇫🇷,🇬🇷 .My grand grand father Atanas finght is battle in Dobro pole.10 Belomorska division.
big Thank You for this series Indy! What are you up to these days? Any other series we can enjoy?
I just started supporting your channel! keep up the work and best wishes
@TheGreatWar
7 жыл бұрын
+Enderman22 thanks for your support
Loved the end rant!
Wow. A hell of a week, and a great episode.
Great job guys!
love your description of the war at the end :) "for what"
That was a wonderful transition to promoting the Hotzendorf special.
A special episode about the Calais conference might be interesting. This was when Lloyd George, who hated Haig with a passion, tried to give command of the British forces to the French.
@TheGreatWar
7 жыл бұрын
Covered it in our weekly episode.
@Medafets
7 жыл бұрын
Whoops. I'll go back and find it.
27th the Great War is the best KZread channel in the world the best content
the gradual increase of indy's desperation towards the end made me think of that mitchell and webb football ad/sketch "The war is officially going on forever!"
This episode i was waiting a lot!
Indie I congratulate you on your videos and dedication. Wow have you really done 144 weekls!?
Wow. Indy, your honest delivery encapsulates this entire tragedy... "Why?"
I was thinking exactly this for the last weeks 8:55 I thought i was going crazy.
Indy does method acting in this episode. Love it. This show should be a homework assignment for school kids.
Good video! Keep it up!
Its odd how Bulgaria and The Ottomans had one of the most bloody war coming up WWI but were on the same side in WWI
Enjoyed the ending a lot. Even though there are many youtubers that cover the WW 2 is there a chance that the crew will cover it? Or if not the WW 2 you can cover some of the wars/conflicts during and after the Cold War. That would be very interesting.
Sick pivot to Hötzendorf at the end there.
Many thanks for this awesome series and ideas I hope that you will make a special episode about Morocco GOUGNI Adam from Morocco
this show is so good, I'm not sure whether to love it or hate it.
@sharkfinbite
7 жыл бұрын
Why hate it?
Man, this episode was excellent - I mean the end note "nobody know's what they're doing" :))
9:49 Absolute sick burn
Nice one Indy! :)
That Hotzendorf ending actually made me laugh :D
Hey! i knew what i was doing! maybe...
@abu-hureraali4531
7 жыл бұрын
Conrad Von Hötzendorf it's all right Conrad let's just go back to the Schöenbrunn.
@blockbustervideo5860
7 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Franz Joseph I ok then...
@abu-hureraali4531
7 жыл бұрын
Get your wife we will have a good old waltz and drink wine
@blockbustervideo5860
7 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Franz Joseph I i would rather enjoy that. thanks Franz.
@abu-hureraali4531
7 жыл бұрын
No problem Conrad us Old Austrians need to stick together.
Didn't know that they were fighting for the axis powers.. Cool video guys
love the newspaper, Indy
there you are indy!
This is the best video conclusion! "...What?!?..."
finally, after almost 2 weeks of watching I have finally caught up with the show. jesus christ I absolutely love it!. The show - not the war of course.
@TheGreatWar
7 жыл бұрын
Good job.
Hey Indie!Will you ever do the special on Armando Diaz,i would love to know.Keep up with the show,from Belgrade Serbia!
awesome ending rant indy
Dam Indy, you hit the nail on the head at the end there. Lol.
indy i hope you make video about ww2 ,and keep making useful video about ww1 ,thanks for everything
going to cover the drum head trials? keep up the good work.
It's nice to see even back then, Micheler dropping a u wot m8 on Nivelle
8:50 You can see the moment anger sets in on his face
Episody of the week: CHAOS!!!
In school in Bulgaria we learned that the French didnt want to tell their true casualties in these battles
I love the ramblings "what, what what are you doing".
I like the Conrad diss right at the end.
It would be nice to have more often news about the german strategy in the war, because we hear more from the other side. Great channel, though :)
@TheGreatWar
7 жыл бұрын
We talked about the German strategy for weeks in February. We made a whole episode about the turnip winter, about the Hindenburg Line.
@SNOUPS4
7 жыл бұрын
That is of course very true, but maybe the feeling I have is because most of the analytic historic sources you use are based on english litterature and not so much german one because there was probably less of it/less archives survived WW2 (wild guess, though)...so at the end of the day the perspective is often "Entente"-centered, or seems so (but of course not always).
I love this show :D