i like how people are more surprised about a philosopher being in the game than literal gods

@mr.jitterspam9552

6 ай бұрын

Gods are in it because gacha games, but ive only seen crash fever (en version is killed lmfao) do something like bc, and even then they only share the names with actual philosophers in crash fever

@Kidey11

Ай бұрын

Well, you know...The gods also didn't have their entire frontal face missing as well lol. Just saying...

Epic music aside, i just love that the phrase "Socrates boss fight" is now a phrase that makes sense within the context of this game.

@LokiThePug

7 ай бұрын

Soractes

@Blahblahblah28504

7 ай бұрын

The insane part is, if this is the theme for sage enemies, what's the theme for the final boss of Zero Legends going to be like a year-ish from now?

@mr.jitterspam9552

7 ай бұрын

​@@LokiThePugsoractis apparently

@alperenakdas3479

6 ай бұрын

@@Blahblahblah28504 my money is on either Thales or Nietzsche

@sparchamp2

6 ай бұрын

@@Blahblahblah28504prolly The Face but sagified and higher stats

ok, so... the "sage from another world" line was leading to... greek philosophers? battle cats lore experts will never recover

@zepplinkiwigamer8217

7 ай бұрын

When the lore is literal, but the game is manical

@theinfamousguil

5 ай бұрын

Soractis is one of the sages, not *the* sage itself.

@theinfamousguil

5 ай бұрын

i mean there are still more stages

@theinfamousguil

5 ай бұрын

and sage is a subtrait so there might be more

@gestalt7529

5 ай бұрын

Someone’s headcanon was that the other sages would be Buddha and Jesus. It’d be real interesting if that’s real

I think there's one thing we can all agree on, Ponos really can make some amazing themes

WE'RE LEARNING PHILOSOPHY WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥

@LoInik.

5 ай бұрын

I used 10% of my brain power to solve this

Genuinely one of the most unsettling units, really sells how ZL is unhinged and a world basically falling apart.

@Samh166-6

7 ай бұрын

Yeah something about this boss seems off, I get a weird feeling by looking at him

@Terasenai

7 ай бұрын

​@@Samh166-6probably the hole on his face

@justa662

7 ай бұрын

or the weirdly drawn arm they have

@LordOfPowercreep

7 ай бұрын

​@@Samh166-6looks like he is stuck to the chair his face gone with a hollow head and one of his arms being on the lower part of the body

@Zaido4211

7 ай бұрын

They're just an elder statue

“Please try not to go to hard it’s just a silly cat game” Unnamed Ponos Employee:

@artchannel4242

6 ай бұрын

They really need to tell us the name of this legendary employee

@joaquin621

5 ай бұрын

@@artchannel4242FOR REAL. i tried emailing Ponos to try and learn who composed the OST (because the damn game has no credits!) but their reply was basically "mhm. the soundtrack sure was composed.". idk why they're so stingy about letting people know

@ohojeethesnootwhacker

3 ай бұрын

PONOS employee number 402 strikes again

@R-osts_towel

3 ай бұрын

​@@ohojeethesnootwhackerchina is a snagret now I am a tadpole the first time to cook a meal plan a trip to the voices of the game and

Ya know when they first mentioned “sage” i really thought like, Generic Magic Person, not GODAMN SOCRATES

@arb1ter993

7 ай бұрын

Imagine if one of the next sages will be Buddha, Jesus, or Confucius. I doubt they will go that far.

@lenientrider

7 ай бұрын

same here

@crazedaxebutbetter5208

7 ай бұрын

​@@arb1ter993jesus in battle cats real

@zepplinkiwigamer8217

7 ай бұрын

​@@crazedaxebutbetter5208 takes all your sins (debuffs and damage last taken) and heals and removes debuffs. Then goes back to heaven.

@notshockwavedemon7543

7 ай бұрын

"Throughout the Heavens and the Earth, I alone am the Honored One" -Buddha

People seem to have a misconception about the imagery of Socrates. He’s a “pillar of our understanding of the universe” or rather part of the foundation of how we perceive it. The faceless nature of the enemy means they’re a representation of the concept itself and its expression. We are all cats and always have been :3

This new stage is pretty darn challenging, no cheap perma rock stalling for this one, and also 1200% Doge Darks as nasty peons.

@SilumanTomcatReborn

7 ай бұрын

When your best chance to win is the goddamn Mega Cat

@zeraorashiny4897

7 ай бұрын

​@@SilumanTomcatRebornthey should bring mega cat back, best big unit

@lancelover789

7 ай бұрын

Windy ultra form:

@LordOfPowercreep

7 ай бұрын

​@@SilumanTomcatRebornbruh really?????

@casualkris4806

7 ай бұрын

Cyberpunk is still viable on that stage in spite of it. Actually it turns out to be one of the better units to bring, even if the slow is mostly to prevent Doge Darks from eating Octo cat.

0:42 & 0:51 to 1:15 the fact you can hear the rush theme motif makes this theme more epic than it should be I forgot that some theme's have that already like "Invading japan" and "Slow Battle"

@TheDuckyDino

7 ай бұрын

Technically the rush theme itself is just a remix of Invading Japan

@kartoffel9684

7 ай бұрын

0:17 to 0:41 also has the moon theme leitmotif

@someguy5048

7 ай бұрын

Of course it's bun bun that finds it epic..

@AmogusIn2024

6 ай бұрын

Very little amount of people noticed this but 0:00 - 0:13 is "Jungle Theme"

@maamaabeats-qj3ly

6 ай бұрын

I love motifs

Another banger from Ponos, it just keeps getting better

My face when its a difficult exam Also i really like the idea of ponos, instead of just using moon themes they just created a whole new theme ZL is very wild

I can't believe they surpasssd Filibuster Obstructa, Big Bang and Revival of Origin with this insane theme

@Ayjay_Puffball

7 ай бұрын

They could've just save this for the final boss tbh

@casualkris4806

7 ай бұрын

Or they could make an even more epic version later on. I mean it is not like they dont have budget for music. And this game deserves any new music it can get with its size.

@Ayjay_Puffball

6 ай бұрын

​@@casualkris4806yk you could've just click to my reply right?

@casualkris4806

6 ай бұрын

@@Ayjay_Puffball Just laziness

I love how socrates is using its leg to thonkang.

@SilumanTomcatReborn

7 ай бұрын

feet enjoyer

im glad that "resist debuff" is appearing outside of talents now. I really thought it was a missed opportunity.

@casualkris4806

7 ай бұрын

I would say it has been implemented pretty darn well instead of making people guess which resist an enemy has.

this sounds like the kind of music that would play when something is number 1 on xskull's rankings also 0:41 - 0:53 is easily my favourite part

@fireyhitmyfuse

7 ай бұрын

Lol true

@Ayjay_Puffball

7 ай бұрын

Zl boss theme surpasses filibuster's theme confirmed?

@fabiandargiewiczchess

Ай бұрын

​@Ayjay_Puffball which side are you on? Zl boss ost Filibuster ost

@lenientrider

Ай бұрын

@@fabiandargiewiczchess zl boss ost is better imo

it is absolutely wild to me that this started with a single cat fighting a single dog.

@MitchelAregbesola

7 ай бұрын

Very true. Same thing with geometry dash of how one cube jumps over one spike making geometry dash a whole new era.

@LordOfPowercreep

7 ай бұрын

did some of you forget that they also fought a floating head and a demon

@seerthecat9832

7 ай бұрын

That’s true, but stuff like The Face, Nyandam and Bun Bun weren’t higher-dimesional entities whose very presence makes the world around them collapse back into what can be charitably described as the universe’s most primal state.

@LordOfPowercreep

7 ай бұрын

@@seerthecat9832 mmm fair

@pancakewafflez

7 ай бұрын

It actually started with a lot of cats fighting relic bun bun

WE'RE ALTERING REALITY WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥

egg came first, we first unlock the egg and then we unlock the cat.

@Enter_a_name69

6 ай бұрын

Well who gave birth to the egg centuries ago

@mr.jitterspam9552

5 ай бұрын

​@@Enter_a_name69the people who stored the units in eggs

@fuertezombie666

5 ай бұрын

​@@Enter_a_name69the first egg that was made was cinnabar, which comes from Hidden Forest Of Gapra! So Casaurian Ahirujo is first!

@mr.jitterspam9552

5 ай бұрын

​@@fuertezombie666haniwa is fuming rn

@liamgomez1209

5 ай бұрын

gama duskit

I can’t believe PONOS did a collab with ULTRAKILL just after they released layer 7! The new boss is basically a prime soul.

@konstak05

7 ай бұрын

ikr!!

@arb1ter993

7 ай бұрын

JUDGEMENT.

@A_Bahamut

6 ай бұрын

THY END IS NOW!

@Terasenai

Ай бұрын

CRUSH!

I wonder how did we get from cat conquering the Earth to cats destroying and conquiering what's left of space and time?

@Duong_thieu_nang

4 ай бұрын

Catfood .

@Duong_thieu_nang

4 ай бұрын

And leadership .

@zotethemighty8138

4 ай бұрын

@@Duong_thieu_nang French Can Can helped too.

@fabiandargiewiczchess

Ай бұрын

​@@zotethemighty8138and also a nerd ofc

This music sounds very heroic, which is funny because the cats are the reason the universes are breaking apart. (Insert game theory music) maybe its because these sages are the key to saving the multiverse from collapsing.

@notshockwavedemon7543

7 ай бұрын

Yeah. We are responsible for the worlds falling apart.

@jarexthe3rd633

6 ай бұрын

This is just a thought of mine. The music feels very urgent and as stated, everything is falling apart. It's more fitting that this isn't just the sage/s' theme at the first half but also The Battle Cats' invasion theme in the second half of the music, where it sounds familiar but also sinister. Or it could be melancholic, envisioning that what The Battle Cats are doing is righteous but the reality of their action is more bleak.

the sage trait is nice because it has been mentioned at the end of UL and it finally got added, but its 80% immunity to any debuff effect's duration (and KB distance) makes it hard to stall if you rely on debuffers lol tankers and dmg dealers are the best options tbh

Holy shit they went all out on this banger theme, really hope the stage is as threatening as the music

@casualkris4806

7 ай бұрын

Oh trust me, it is unless you have very specific means of trivializing the stage (Windy ultra form). It is practically uncheesable, see it as Super Hyppoh that you cant crowd control well, or basically 'mecha bun but good'

@Eldersh1eld

7 ай бұрын

@@casualkris4806 that sounds both exciting and like a pain in the ass XD

@midtisel4222

7 ай бұрын

​@@casualkris4806octopus kinda makes this stage 50 times easier

@sonicexer1856

7 ай бұрын

4m hp, 34k dps, 250 range with omni up to 430, 0.7 second attack frequency, 18 movement speed. I see it as an evolved ht boss, being able to pose a big threat just by himself

@casualkris4806

7 ай бұрын

@@midtisel4222 Because it basically is near impossible, or straight up impossible no Uber no Octo right now. He will run straight through standard meatshields, rock and metal cannot perfectly do it either.

Bro.......how did they combine the main motif, rush motif and final boss motif into this track.... Like I'm starting to feel emotional over how long I've played this.....

waited for this clean, beautiful loop

Shame there was no end to UL4* this update but this absolute banger easily makes up for it

New subtrait: Philosopher

0:40 I love how even after all of these years, this leitmotif continues to be included in these songs.

The thought of the Legends (In Zero Legends) having there own themes is awesome, hope each one has a different song

@csabatoth2312

7 ай бұрын

very unlikely imo but who knows

Holy shit Ponor is getting better and better with these ZL tracks I swear.

Bro i can't believe they added the thinker to battle cats🔥🔥

Dude, the way that it's actually just a dramatic remix of the main battle theme at the end is so cool!

Épico como siempre Phonos, me encantan las campanas de fondo.

1000/10 Temazo! Ponos si que sabe hacer grandes canciones!

I have a theory, if you look at Socrates' chest you can see some kind of swirly mark, balrog also has the same swirly mark on the chest and shisilan pasalan has those all over his hands, I think those marks will be important in the future

@midtisel4222

7 ай бұрын

Or they just look really good who knows

@omabang5002

7 ай бұрын

If Balrog is the Hulk, then Solactis (Socrates) is the Maestro

@BobbyBomberBoy

7 ай бұрын

Shisilan Pasalan enemy editon real????

@mr.jitterspam9552

6 ай бұрын

No, just fancy nipple

If i have a nickle for everytime there's a character who was made out from unsorted ground material who was literally owns a shattered faceless head except the jaws in mobile game. I have two nickles. Which isn't a lot but it's weird because it happened twice, right? Consider this, having Socrates being as the anthropomorphic personification of philosophy was obsurely brilliant. Plus being as the first boss of the ZL Chapter clearly serves as the lampshade about the existence of The Cat Army's questopnable philosophy and morality.

@LordOfPowercreep

7 ай бұрын

what was the other one?

@midtisel4222

7 ай бұрын

​@@LordOfPowercreepI second this

@stalloneandrew9961

7 ай бұрын

@@LordOfPowercreep Rare Monculus from My Singing Monsters

@LordOfPowercreep

7 ай бұрын

@@stalloneandrew9961 oh thats cool

@LordOfPowercreep

7 ай бұрын

@@midtisel4222 rare monculus

Absolute banger theme, def one of if not the best Battle Cats theme

Genius thumbnail. Description sounds like it's gonna be really annoying to fight sage enemies depending on how resistant they are to debuffs. If it goes up to 70% like for cats, this could very easily spiral into a nightmare. How good is the new Legend unit from ZL? It seems interesting from the abilities...

@SilumanTomcatReborn

7 ай бұрын

looks pretty bad. 30% freeze vs angel but very low range

@wongyiixuanwrss2619

7 ай бұрын

@@SilumanTomcatReborn hi,can wave and surge count as debuff for the sage enemies,means my dasli surge will only deal like 30 percent to sage enemies?

@SilumanTomcatReborn

7 ай бұрын

i'm not sure about that. we only know it affects the debuff

@Kaghtaviy

7 ай бұрын

@@SilumanTomcatReborn Attacks really fast tho, has 150 piercing range and a summon that deals additional damage, knockbacks and weakens enemies. Seems like a legend version of mushroom cat, but without the wave immune.

@SilumanTomcatReborn

7 ай бұрын

I was expecting that he will be our primary counter for W-Piggie or Slephnir. But low range happened

GOD DAM! And only like 1% of players reach this too.

@allanlugo7842

5 ай бұрын

We are only lazy 😂

🔥🔥🔥Beating legend stages with this 🔥🔥🔥

Can’t wait for Plato and Aristotle to pull up too. We finna destroy Greece with this one 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥

@mrgamer9220

7 ай бұрын

Diogenes when

@zepplinkiwigamer8217

7 ай бұрын

Hera when

@Creoxxxtream

6 ай бұрын

Jesus when

@Enter_a_name69

6 ай бұрын

Greece gonna spam that sir seal

@fabiandargiewiczchess

Ай бұрын

​@@Creoxxxtreamthis would be controversial tho

Oh damn I guess I was wrong. This theme is way better than the ZL boss theme. Well I guess we are out of early ZL I suppose and are on to early-mid ZL. I wonder if we are going to get more legends since we got him really early into ZL compared to dogu and ururun wolf.

where can i download the music for media app player?

I love that there's church bells sometimes, it gives it kind of a DMDokuro vibe lmao

So, Dasli and Cyberstack is very bad in this level and the general trait right?

Such an eye-opening soundtrack

I have a feeling that ZL is literally just the world falling apart and a broken timeline after The Cats conquered the past in UL which may have caused a cannon event to not happen which broke the universe so now the stage backgrounds of ZL look like they do. That is just my theory

@fabiandargiewiczchess

Ай бұрын

I think that the energy of everything hiding in Zero Luza has been released and came to SOL and big bang 3 and corrupted them

When i first read he name of socrates, i imagined him to be like the almighty's, that he would have had a catified take or something I wasnt expecting him to literally be socrates😅 Also banger theme for the first zero legend boss unit

@JorgeCrack5000

6 ай бұрын

Why Socrates in Almighty? He isn't a God xD

@Enter_a_name69

6 ай бұрын

@@JorgeCrack5000but he is a great part in history just like the almighty in greek mythology so makes sense him to be kinda be almightyish

@mr.jitterspam9552

6 ай бұрын

​@@Enter_a_name69._. Even though like half the gods in that set are from other religions

I love this so much

WHY THIS IS SO EPIC AAA

Makes me feel like we're about to fight kratos or something. It's so epic

Cats went to Zero World in search of a Sage. If Socrates isn't the one, then who can be THE Sage?

@midtisel4222

5 ай бұрын

Jake from accounting

@ryanpang1181

5 ай бұрын

Jesus

This theme really gives Monster Hunter vibes

@Xenon059

5 ай бұрын

The entire behemoth subtrait is a monster hunter reference

W theme W looking enemies W summon skill because there's more interactive other than spamming unit and wait its cooldown

Woah this is unexpected for ZL

Pure unfiltered banger.

First battle theme music + Underground Labyrinth battle theme + epic boss theme + cats = the first boss theme in the zero leyends / goat 🥶🥶🥶

First part sounded like Evangelion so hard, ngl this music is neat!

The real cuestion how come first the cat or the egg?(i have a horrible english)

Ponos is popping off with the design what the hell

0:40 onwards really sounds like army dillo from dk64

Wait until we need to fight this dude in full, to acquire his TF.

Game is evolving only in post end ;)

Very very nice 🎶

hmmm very debatable question

0:53 Why do I hear the damn big chungus theme like it’s a siivagunner rip 💀

Banger

WERE BREAKING INTO PLATO'S CLASSROOM WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@gxxthicflower

6 ай бұрын

wasn't that diogenes instead of socrates?

@Sloppnheimer

6 ай бұрын

@@gxxthicflower yeah lol I just wanted to make a funny comment

@gxxthicflower

6 ай бұрын

@@Sloppnheimer fair enough

he do be thonking

Do it recieves less dame when unit have massive or strong abilities

@SilumanTomcatReborn

7 ай бұрын

No. Only debuff ability like Slow, Freeze, KB Attack, etc

@TheresiavanAstrea

7 ай бұрын

@@SilumanTomcatReborn thank you

so there will be more sages, right?

The Sage enemy was planned since ending of UL apparently

1:04 this part kind of sounds like the first ZL boss theme

@Ayjay_Puffball

7 ай бұрын

You mean the first ever battle theme?

@0broop0

7 ай бұрын

​​​@@Ayjay_Puffballi hear the first battle theme more at 0:40

oh my god there is rush motifs in it

I wonder what other real world figures would inspire later zero legends units?

@unfamousinfamous

7 ай бұрын

Sage of Math Pythagoras

@pancakewafflez

7 ай бұрын

Sage of power Adolf 100% toxic attacks

@fireyhitmyfuse

7 ай бұрын

@@unfamousinfamous that'll probably be a thing that gets added lol

@Enter_a_name69

6 ай бұрын

@@unfamousinfamousman i fucking hated that dude as a child

@ryanpang1181

5 ай бұрын

​@@unfamousinfamous WE LEARNING A²+B²=C² WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Why is Socrates missing his face

Was I the only one who noticed the moon and battle theme one motifs in this theme

@AmogusIn2024

6 ай бұрын

I'm the only one person/thing/critter/creature/cat(probably)/amogus(definitely)/amongus(maybe)/etc(definitely) who noticed "Jungle Theme" in here

@AmogusIn2024

6 ай бұрын

0:00 - 0:12 is time stamp, listen carefully

Bro this music carried me in Floor 30 wtf

Hol up guys… Let him thonk…

Ponos never disappoints

wait, why does this give me bookworm adventures vibe?

How exactly would this dude think because you can very clearly see the insides of his head and it’s completely empty

@midtisel4222

7 ай бұрын

His foot-hand does the thinking

@maxwellhavoc6996

7 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, that makes sense

What do you thing about socrates and fest legend?

@deathlygamingreal

7 ай бұрын

12k dps with insane dmg on traitless is scary

@midtisel4222

7 ай бұрын

​@@deathlygamingrealtraited*

@user-vq6zn9fd1s

7 ай бұрын

@@deathlygamingreal is big number but naala patern so 4K dps real and no extra hp on meele unit in my opinion unit level like mitama or dark phonoa

@midtisel4222

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-vq6zn9fd1s4k DPS against traitless, against traited it's either 20 or 24k DPS which is BUSTED, especially considering the fact that it can snipe backliners

@user-vq6zn9fd1s

7 ай бұрын

@@midtisel4222Yes its true but still have big problem no surge protection

I don’t care if they give them sage slayer. I am not level 60ing my crowd control Ubers 💀

Now we need a sage the face that has no face

Relic Jagando is perfect for this theme tbh

I haven’t seen a song this good from the battle cats for a while now In my opinion the only music better than this is the moon theme remix, (Mecca bun bun)

If I had a nickel for everytime I see a boss with a hole in their face, I'd have two nickels

@arb1ter993

7 ай бұрын

JUDGEMENT.

@samlevrino3448

7 ай бұрын

cli-one

@user-rx7ej2el1m

7 ай бұрын

It's kinda 4, because I'm sure you've seen clione's variants.

@kaelkela6021

4 ай бұрын

cli-one, the dead cli-one, sage of sorcates thonkang dude, and... blue dudes that are giants and destroy cats, just bigger than those AKU!!??!! guys but with black holes.

it has moon theme leitmotif :o

I wonder if the next sage will also have hole for a face. Anyway, banger theme for cat game.

@crazedaxebutbetter5208

7 ай бұрын

I could see a recreation of the EoC chapter 1 moon fight with the face but missing a face

@Enter_a_name69

6 ай бұрын

@@crazedaxebutbetter5208a dude literally named “the face” without a face will be absurd as shit

Ah yes, the claasic good battle cats music, also what

He really do be thonkang.

_do we need more sub-traits, PONOS...?_

@0broop0

7 ай бұрын

The good thing is that this subtrait actually does something and the slayer ability isn't super op so normal units can work better

@Enter_a_name69

6 ай бұрын

Peter griffin sub-trait

i must say one of the instruments here sounds a lot like sburban jungle from homestuck

crazy how theres shit like this lumped in with rush

If this is a remix of the normal theme then the moon variant will be equally or more incredible (moon/mecha bun bun/relic bun bun)

@Only4two100bucks

5 ай бұрын

We already had a moon remix kzread.info/dash/bejne/p6SOutB8h7GuhJc.html

@allanlugo7842

5 ай бұрын

@@Only4two100bucks didnt know that, i havent progressed since dogumaru

This theme is on par with filibuster's theme but i like the filibuster's theme a bit more

they cooked!