Arroz- I must say your work as a director, producer, editor, and story teller is a gift! You do such incredible work! Your story telling is smooth, tasteful, and makes sense. You observe and report, never have you tried to make your own story by causing issues, like stereotypical “VO’s”. Granted those sick individuals are in other countries. I greatly appreciate your hard work and dedication to not only these beautiful primates, but us as the viewers! Thank you! I appreciate all of your hard work!

Well, the comments certainly demonstrate how much we all care about these animals and appreciate the time Mr. AM takes to film, edit and share them with us. And how some of these little ones manage to touch a special place in our hearts due to their appearance and behaviors. Or, maybe, they garner the VO’s attention and we see more of that one than others. That being said, I for one, appreciate all of the comments, there are some very good points in them that I need to remember myself. Thank you all 😊

So basically, she was held captive. So sad, from a thriving baby girl, to dying so soon. RIP baby Betsy.😢

Believe me she'll be popping more out. 😂😂

I find it hard to watch and listen as a kidnapper ignores ths struggling and crying baby they have snatched. It's like they switch off to it.

Thats not a babysitter, thats foster care! Baby sitter is just a few hours so parents can have a break!

Hierarchy failed at this point

Youve got to be kidding me. Becausw of her big chompers she didnt want her baby back? Look at the size comparison between bessy snd dy, or dy and every other monkey !! I think this is pretty goddamn obvious

My heart hurts every time one of these babies are gone😢

In these videos of Betsy’s crying hoots, I was reminded of the haunted hooting of our poor boy Scooby. Rip Betsy. Rip Scoob. ❤

@dellalowery2833

Жыл бұрын

Poor Baby 😢. She just wanted Bolly to leave her alone and her mom to want her 😢😢...Della

@frenchettepeoples5875

Жыл бұрын

Yes scobby was crazy for his mom 😅

@michaelhearn3052

Жыл бұрын

Yes I to remember Scooby and his hoots!! I do recall a similar LT baby Macaque in one of the Cambodian videos who did the same thing, kept on hooting and was disciplined by an adult; I suspect that happened to Scooby, and sadly either fell from a tree, or was run over by a car. Some years ago AM did some analysis based upon the babies that were lost in the troupe that he videos. IIRC it was some 20% of babies die in the first 6 months from accidents, malnutrition or an infection. this increases to 32% after 6 months as the babies get more independent from their mothers. However, fatal falls and also road kill are high on the list.

@mariewoehr1669

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelhearn3052 interesting, that’s a pretty high percentage of fatalities.🙃

@laurelhayes8234

Жыл бұрын

Yea I heard less than 40% make it to complete child bearing adult status. Think it was like, 36 - 37 %?

During all the shenanigans of Bessys siblings, she looks back to AM, and camera with a look of "see what I have to put up with "

@ickiedeer-lamb7282

Жыл бұрын

Lol @yvonne or she's looking for am to help.😅

@hbell1111

Жыл бұрын

More like film me die a horrible death. Thxs for the help AM

@margoallard3971

Жыл бұрын

could they have been taken by someone

@yvonneconte3040

Жыл бұрын

Monkeys in Hong Kong are cherished and respected. Unlikely they are taken

@ickiedeer-lamb7282

Жыл бұрын

@@yvonneconte3040 hardly. Whoever is saying otherwise are thinking of another group of monkeys nowhere near Hong Kong

man I love you, well put together

Bessy always seemed she doesn’t have any respect from her mum & siblings. Her older sisters are bullies. And she is too with low rankers. She could not fight her older sisters. But she also didn’t seem to have patience w/Betsy. She is a mess. Bubby will be a mum soon, she really wants a baby, it’s gonna be interesting to see how she does. Bossy’s family are a mess!

@forever.endeavor

Жыл бұрын

I agree as soon as I saw her grown sons hanging around I didn’t trust her judgement.

Yeah this seemed like Dy was hanging on to her. Poor Bessy could do little to remedy the situation. Poor Betsy probably eventually became starved and dehydrated. Macaques are resilient animals even as babies but once they cross that threshold they go down hill very quickly.

Happy cute little Betsy who suffered a painful unnecessary death.

WTH Bessy? Your baby is scared, misses you and isn’t being allowed to run, play and learn. 😠

@elibell19

Жыл бұрын

She asked for her baby back several times.

@CubanSoljahsMom

5 ай бұрын

@elibell19, when? I must have missed that

@timothyhemperly6474

5 ай бұрын

Dy is coming off like another Bo.

RIP Betsy, she was such a beautiful baby girl 38:50 that was heart breaking

That's heart breaking 💔 and her mother is right there and wouldn't come for her 😢. Precious little Bessie could even see her, saying mommy I'm right here.

diy always runs for the tree tops if anyone tries to get the baby ,,she just starves them to death,,too bad she doesnt

@ML_SE

Жыл бұрын

Just shut up with the starving. Betsy didn't starve to death. 🤓🇸🇪

Sweet, adorable little Betsy, RIP

@ickiedeer-lamb7282

Жыл бұрын

RIP Betsy.

With all of these ladies grabbing at her how does Betsy know who she can trust?

Betsy was such a lil beauty. Really miss babies when their lives are cut so short needlessly. Humans messing up these females by taking away their need to have their very own baby while watching other moms with their babies. For some the desire is so emotionally too much for them and the only one to blame for them kidnapping a baby and they die because they have no milk to feed the baby is the ones who took away their right to be a mom.

Dy has always been a bully and a baby thief. Because of her size and status she gets away with it. Some of these females would've been better off euthanized rather than sterilized. Dy, Dorothy and Bo have all become baby killers, just to name a few. It infuriates me to see these tiny infants in such distress and to know what a horrific fate most of them suffer. Dehydration and starvation is a slow, painful death, not to mention the fear and longing they must feel to get back to their mothers. It's gut wrenching and heartbreaking to see it happening and knowing there's absolutely nothing you can do to intervene.😢

@solbri2758

Жыл бұрын

I agree but I feel that sometimes the mothers are not agressive enough towards the kidnapper or, they are to confident no one will take their babies. I also agree that Dy, Dorothy and Bo should be euthanized. They are just bad and dangerous. Not to mention that if Bossy is Dy's mother, why the hell isn't she doing anything to put that daughter of hers in her place? It's just sad. Not to mention that Bessy is just a stupid mother in my opinion. She doesn't deserve to have any more babies if she can't take care of them properly.

@hollisblinn7910

Жыл бұрын

@@solbri2758 it seems as if Bossy has gotten too old to care what's going on around her. She'll still protect her own infants, but did she ever really do much to intervene on behalf of other mothers and their babies? Between the human interference of the sterilization program and the lack of leadership of some of the elder alphas, many of the troop dynamics are pretty unhealthy and unstable on the hill.

@tammywooley2635

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you. Gypsy is another one because she has babies but totally ignores them.

@jamiemulcahey6089

Жыл бұрын

I have to fast forward through these kinds of videos. I can’t stand watching monkeys like Dy hold onto a baby’s arm and not let go. Then the mothers do nothing while their babies scream. Nora is the worst because she kills her own babies.

@lordofreason549

Жыл бұрын

It's good for them to be removed from their moms for periods of time. If some of the females are killing other babies, there's a reason

They are ignoring her cuz Di is higher rank. And they know better.

So sad to lose one so young

Very sad video, beautifully filmed RIP BETSY.😢😢❤❤

Poor Betsie her mouth looks so dry and it had to take a toll on her she acted like she knew she had been abandoned by her mother I feel so bad for her.

@user-ip4ij3oq8r

Жыл бұрын

She wasn’t abandoned she was taking by one or the high ranks n taken by Humans

diy's grip is like a bear trap on betsy,,and she is on her death march

RIP baby girl. Hopefully Bessy will be more like her mom and be overly protective so this doesn't happen again to the next baby.

R.i.p Betsy , climb high , run free and play hard no harm can come to you now. I think her own mother gave her up, and it cost her her life.

I wish I had someone to love and care for me the way you are with all of these beautiful animals. I need it so bad

@lindagunderson732

Жыл бұрын

God loves you, Jamie

@CubanSoljahsMom

5 ай бұрын

🫂

I don't believe Bessy gave her baby up.Dy has always been known to steal babys. And Everyone is afraid of her and Bessy is so much smaller than Dy she knew she was no match for her. I remember a few years ago Dy was really bad about kidnapping and she would get ruff with the babys when they would try to escape. I wouldn't be surprised if Dy was responsible for the babys death in some way.

@Judith-rx7zr

Жыл бұрын

I am sure Bessy didnt give her baby up. She couldn't do anything against Dy, like Floffi in Loewinas troop with Bo. Whether books or some people saying something different...

@hollisblinn7910

Жыл бұрын

I agree with A.M. I think Betsy probably died from a fall while trying to escape Dy's clutches.

Love your intro , so professional

Having been around for 25million years I’m sure these beautiful creatures have life worked out pretty well but we will never understand them fully. Sure it’s sad and seems cruel but that’s nature hey. RIP Little monkey.

@mchevre

Жыл бұрын

Yeah macaques are actually the second most successful and prolific primates on the planet (after ourselves, of course

Soory guys can not do this. See you Wed.

@ickiedeer-lamb7282

Жыл бұрын

Sleep well susie qq❤

"why were thet suddenly all turning a deaf ear?" do you see how big that monkey is??? No doubt they have top status to get way more food to get that big. Look at the size of bessy in comparison !! Im sure bessy saw what was going on and felt helpless knowinf she would be overpowered

I thought gypsy was bad She at least fed her babies then gave them back to the babysitters. :( it seems Dye fed her food but seems she didn’t get water as her mouth looks so dry. They all should keep Dy away from their babies

So for weeks she was held against her will and mom had no desire to have her back..... AND that poor baby for weeks couldn't go play and be normal? That in itself is abusive!😢

I cry for Betsy. She was adoerable and what beautiful eyes she had

Bessy does have some beautiful babies. All of them are bright eyed and simply precious.

could there have been a medical condition and they knew she wouldn't make it? animals usually know when something is wrong with their kids. maybe betsy wouldn't learn to eat the clay, and they knew without doing so she wouldn't make it. almost the same scenario as scooby with the crying. i really don't think bossy would have let that play out as long as it did without a reason. i have seen her step in numerous times when the kidnapping goes on for to long.

@yvonneconte3040

Жыл бұрын

Was thinking this too

This reminds me of gypsy and her offspring always crying. At 2:24 it looks like she is already biting her mom and she was trying to teach her not to . At 6:24 looks like she warned her again . Then again at 7:20. Then at 25:05 it seems that maybe Bessy is looking at her warning her not to bite . Maybe she just wouldn’t stop biting her . Bessy even bites her lightly to show her not to bite.

@TLRing

Жыл бұрын

I think you are correct about biting

RIP BETSY she was in a good health

That’s just so sad. It breaks my heart thinking she may have been hurt before she passed. And for her Mum, never seeing her again. 😢

@teresacastro1263

Жыл бұрын

Yes poor baby. Victim of circumstances. Would you believe there are demented people out there who blamed the infants for their unfortunate plights? They even said the infants deserve it. So many sadists out there.

I'm in the way of thinking she fell out of a tree. She was struggling so hard against Dy on the ground but she continued that when up a tree. She had gotten stronger somehow without mom's milk and was seen during the video jerking and screaming against Dy in a high tree. I was surprised that didn't happen on camera

@thestorysofar

11 ай бұрын

A fall usually can't kill a monkey unless it is a newborn or a very young infant.

Its really sad, Betsy being drug all over awau from her mom & not even getting a chance to play with other babies...

It's gutwrenching to watch Bessy and her family ignore Betsy's cries for help. Once again, Dy the baby thief got her way, due to her size and aggressive attitude. Too bad Betsy never lived to be reunited with her Mum. Rest in paradise, beautiful Betsy. 🙊😭😭😿😿❤

I honestly don’t think that Bessy didn’t care about getting Betsy back, I could see it in her eyes that she was torn, hearing her baby girl’s cries and having to face Dy to get her back. Not even Bossy would square off with her.😳 I think something in Dy was different this time and she wasn’t going to acquiesce to Bessy politely or otherwise asking for her baby and sadly I believe Bessy knew it and just wasn’t up to the task of facing her sister and gradually she backed off in exasperation. I’m not sure what it is that is going on in Dy’s mind but she seemed different and detached and was just holding onto Betsy because she could not because she wanted to hold and cuddle her, which she didn’t do. If Bo is any indication that these sterilized females can undergo radical mind changes that severely alters their behavior. So sad to lose sweet little Betsy and I hope this doesn’t happen again with another baby.😔

It doesn’t help that these babies are born with an instinct to cling, even to a kidnapper. They would rather cling to the kidnapper than be on their own. I’ve wondered many times why they don’t just let go and take off running, but they never do, they will keep clinging to whomever has them. Bessy is definitely too small to take on Dy, as Dy is quite large and stout looking for a female. Hopefully Bessy keeps a closer eye on her next one, as with Dorothy, when they learn they can do it and the mom isn’t going to challenge them, they will do it again with the next baby.

@Judith-rx7zr

Жыл бұрын

🙏

@shellyhudson1631

11 ай бұрын

Size never matters to a mother. I don't think l that was the problem. It appears that she may have suffered post partum. She just completely walked away. She sat close for a little while as the mother in her dictated but each week further away.. I don't know how little Betsy even made it that long with no milk. She had to be eating food and getting water bc she wasn't at all dehydrated through most of this. A lot of mothers shouldn't have children and monkeys are no exception. I've seen many that are rough and impatient with babies. Some even starve them to death. A full day and a baby looks a wreck and 2 days later is either on deaths door or dead from malnutrition. It's so sad about those. I have a fondness in my heart. She was on3 of the most beautiful babies. Seems like they sterilize the wrong ones. Those long for an infant and then there are those that have them thay don't know how or don't want to raise them.

@asilsesom3680

10 ай бұрын

What happened to her

people who buy newborn monkeys are evil!!!!! anyone who rips an infant from his mother has no soul!!! those babies cry and cry for there real moms and females cry for there babies, they get stressed cant eat develop digestive problems and they die. how horrible.how would you feel if every child u have is taken from you at birth. its cruel. these babies need their moms not humans who play dress up the monkey.

@maxine3587

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's why people watch this channel, because none of that ever happens. 😊

@kellyruddock8822

Жыл бұрын

@@maxine3587 sad to say that people watch these videos and want a monkey.its sick and cruel. thats why baby monkey died. to much stress for baby and missing mom. nothing like trauma to mess with there health.

This is so sad! What a beautiful baby!! RIP LITTLE ONE

I find it sad and horrible that Dy caused Betsys death. Im not sure Bessy allowed her to originally take her snd Dy seemed to taunt her. Im extremely puzzled as to why not a single monkey in this family helped. I was so upset at her cries for help i think id have paid a vet to dart Dy when she was on ground sevond she dozed off Bessy could grab her baby. Hope she learns next baby use your canines on your sister's back and grab your baby because clearly no one in this troop will help you

@elibell19

Жыл бұрын

No one will tackle Dy. Bossy doesn't trust hee to babysit.

@Judith-rx7zr

Жыл бұрын

In Loewinas troop they didn't help either when Bo kidnapped the babys. We can't judge them as they are humans. They are similar but not the same. We do not know very much but we suspect a lot! For sure hierarchy plays a big role.

Thank you AM .YOU ARE SO WONDERFUL🙏🙏❣️

Perhaps, Arroz, Bessy also thought the situation would rectify itself. After all, Dy was Betsy's aunt. I know I wouldn't expect my own sister to harm my child! So maybe she was a thought ahead of yourself?

Sorry four our little beauty Betsy. But, please, do not wish anything bad to Dy. She is as strong as a male, that's the reason neither Bossy can fight agaibst her. Dy has been so protective not only babues but also the whole troop. She likes to kidnap baby girls, but till now, I've never heart she has killed any baby nor adult. Sympathy for you, my dear Dollory.😢

It's obvious Bessy was scared sh*tless of Dy. She even backed up to her to show submission and Betsy even touched mom's leg but Dy just walked off.

I think Bessy is more to blame if she would of shown DIY that she really did want her Baby back things might have turned out different.

@elibell19

Жыл бұрын

Watch 38:40 Bessy is asking for her baby, and Dy is holding her back.

@Galatian1

Жыл бұрын

@@elibell19 Dy refused to give Betsy back so I don't understand your logic. Dy has always been known as a baby thief,

@elibell19

Жыл бұрын

@@Galatian1 My comment was to the OP who said Bessy's fault for not really wanting her baby back. I explained Bessy had tried. Dy has taken other babies, and been mean to them. She is so large no one can rein her in.

@Galatian1

Жыл бұрын

Apologies, I thought I replied to the original comment from deborah

Her little tiny arm looked damaged where her Aunt hung on to her for so long, you can see it when she was trying to climb a tree towards the end! She also looked to be a HE. R.I.P Betsy, Thank you for the video

@livinlovelee2683

Жыл бұрын

That wasn't Betsy with the damaged arm.

We'll never know what really happened to Betsy. Just wonder why Bessy let her 1 sister watch Betsy. Good evening everybody! A.M., just wanted to say thank you, for this remembrance of Betsy! She truly was gone too soon. Monkey family life & politics is something that I'll never truly understand. Take care & stay safe everybody! Catch me later!

@A-Spicy-Pepper

Жыл бұрын

She starved Or fell? She wanted her mom so bad😢

Dy wanted Betsy as her own baby...as she cannot gave any. Perhaps too much love, se decided Betsy would be hers?😢what a pity!!! Poor baby, mum and Auntie.

This broke my heart 😢 RIP little angel girl .

Hello AM, I am so heartbroken Betsy was one of my favs. Thank you Arroz love lots♥️🐒🐒♥️

Years ago Dy kidnapped a baby & it died. Rip lil Betsy!

Her eyes are already starting to sink in around 32:20.

Hello my monkey Hill family! Hope all are well!!!

@PamPreston78

Жыл бұрын

Wow. Good to see you Charles. 😊

@retamckeehan4935

Жыл бұрын

Charles! Good to see you! How are you doing?

@ickiedeer-lamb7282

Жыл бұрын

Hi bro @Charles

@ickiedeer-lamb7282

Жыл бұрын

​@@retamckeehan4935 hi hun. Thanks for helping with our special prayer line.😂❤❤❤❤

So heartbreaking 😢

Thats your guess? She broke free? She peobably died of dehydration or starvation ..you can see when dy is walkinf with betsy , betsy tries to escape once and dy sits quick and grabs her arm asap. Its obvioid she was never able to escape . I dont get you..like what!

I wonder if Diy is what happened to Bossy,Jr🤔

@lourdeshernandez3710

Жыл бұрын

I don' t think so. It was Bry who was her babysitter.

Awwwww.....Noooo!!! I dont Understand WHY Bossy would allow DY to do this???? Bossy is ALPHA!!!! Just makes me so Mad...and Now we will never know what happened to her.....RIP Beautiful Baby Betsy....

Dy has turned into another green-eyed monster Bo. Bessy did ask for her baby back but Dy ignored her. And no one seems to be able to tackle Dy. Bossy didn't lift a finger. She seemes like she's checked out! Poor Betsy probably died trying to escape, or didn't get enough to drink, as Dy heads for the trees at the first sign someone wants to interfere. Hopefully bext time Bessy will be more careful, and steer clear of Dy. * Bossy seems to know not to trust Dy, as she clearly gathered her baby quickly at the end😮 48:55

@judiththompson2423

Жыл бұрын

Diy has been a green eyed monster in the past. She was terribly mean to babies when she kidnapped them. I don't remember if it was Spanky or Spunky ... but, she dragged baby up mountain side then let go.

@hollisblinn7910

Жыл бұрын

@@judiththompson2423 that was Spunky and if she'd landed on her head, instead of her shoulder, that fall would've killed her. Dy is a menace to the infants of Bossy's troop. She's got the rank and the size to continue getting away with it.

@elibell19

Жыл бұрын

@@hollisblinn7910 I know. 😒

@judiththompson2423

Жыл бұрын

@@hollisblinn7910 Thank You

Charles Darwin's survival of the fittest.

Video 2. Sad one though. At 55 minutes long saying goodbye to Betsy.😢😢😢😢😢😢

RIP dear dear Betsy.

OMG has me in tears! What a beautiful baby.

Rest in peace sweet Betsy❤ hus sent to you all

I really don't think little Betsy could have gotten away from, quoting you AM Bossy's built like a tank daughter. Bessie seems a lower rank family member even though she is a Mother not match for Dy. I am just sorry Betsy will not be able to grow with Benny.

I hate it when they kill their babies, but precociousness is not only forbidden, it is dealt with viciously, brutally and finally.

@teresacastro1263

Жыл бұрын

That is not true. Monkeys are generally precocious and noisy. They dont make good pet. Research shows that in more depostic troops lower ranking members have to come up with more strategies for getting food. And those strategies require a certain amount of being sneaky, clever and courage. Also as the infants grow they become more adept at escaping kidnappers something they need to learn. They cant learn thae being obedient, still and not making their moves against the kidnappers restraints. Kidnapping can lead to death and sometimes infants are kidnapped and held until starved but that may be due to inexperience of the mother not being able to retrieve the infant or intentional as a means of resource competition and population control. But that has to do with rank not the infants behavior.

@scottbutkowski5803

Жыл бұрын

​@@teresacastro1263 Hi Teresa, So? what happened here? This is a somewhat bewildering one. I could only fathom a guess. See? I don't have any issues with this infant Monkee even though it made noise all the time. The whole thing seemed confusing. Especially to Betsy. She never got back to her mom. What type of troop dynamic is that?

@teresacastro1263

Жыл бұрын

@@scottbutkowski5803 What happened was that a sterilized female kidnapped a infant and the mother did not retrive her enough. If you read the research you would understand that. None of the research I have ever read has placed the blame on precocious behavior of the infant. It was cooing all the time because it wanted its mother. That behavior is evolutionary. Also the cooing is considered affilatory in that it is used to attract the mother. That anyone thinks the infant was kill for precocious behavior says everything about how people get their education on these animals from the comment sections of channels.

@scottbutkowski5803

Жыл бұрын

@@teresacastro1263 Well, I certainly don't think the infants sounds of distress got it into the trouble that led to its unfortunate demise. The whole situation seemed confused. Was it really just a kidnapping gone wrong? The Babies mom really didn't seem to terribly interested in the baby once she had been grabbed by Dy. There also didn't seem to be much attention whatsoever from the troop, And Dy didn't seem to taunt the mother with the infant. I guess I'm wondering why mom didn't try to get the baby back, And why none of the troop members attempted to try and help? It seemed like the mom and Dy were in agreement on the situation. I don't recall seeing any unusual behavior from the infant either, Just confusion as to why mom was ignoring her. Any ideas as to why this fate would befall little Betsy? Oh, Nice to speak to you without brawling. That's new!

@teresacastro1263

Жыл бұрын

@@scottbutkowski5803 Exactly it just happens. There can be multiple factors. But these females are highly attracted to infants the younger the more attractive they find them. Add to that that the female who took was sterilized. Ive seen several infants starve when the monkey could not retrieve them. Look at Helpo a male took him and he died because the mother was unablebto retrieve him. The following year he started to take Helpo's brother but at a month older. Being a month older the brother was better able at escaping the male. He did not escape being obedient and still. I watched a show on another species of macaques and they said these infants had to be a little cheeky brave and develop confidence in order to survive.

i am crying so hard.

Can someone timestamp where the real action start?

@olabaskerville

Жыл бұрын

10:00 the moment of kidnapping

Arroz you said the only confirmed is bo but umm what about dorothy with her grandbaby? I think the whole royal family ignored Betsy's pleas because they know diy is a mammorh brute and they knew if they intervened diy would put a hurting on them!

@thestorysofar

Жыл бұрын

In the case with Dorothy, the bodies were too decomposed to see what the actual causes were so I gave her the benefit of the doubt whereas with Bo, the body of one of her victims had signs to suggest it died of starvation and dehydration and its rigid body suggested it did so while holding onto her kidnapper.....

Mein Gott ist das Herzzerreißend wenn Mom und das Baby Jessi wiedwr vereint sein können❤❤

Betsy was a beautiful baby monkey ❤

Heart breaking. RIP Betsy, beautiful little girl.❤

Betsy looks very unhealthy and skinny. Didn’t look like she had much milk either

Sad story. 🥲 And what’s wrong with bippy’s arm? 😳

Betsy is adorable

Very nice tribute. You really make these families of monkeys mean a lot to those watching. I feel she didn't die, but might have been kidnapped by a human trafficker. Otherwise, you would see her dead body with her mum. 😢 Either way its so sad. She was beautiful!

@thestorysofar

Жыл бұрын

This is Hong Kong, an affluent westernized city-state ( probably not for very long ), not Cambodia, Vietnam or Indonesia.

@shellyhudson1631

11 ай бұрын

The bodies aren't all carried for weeks. Some don't even carry them at all. He sometimes doesn't film every day either. They usually carry the body for 3 days to a week and a half. Bodies break down there very quickly unable to carry because they fall to pieces during moms grieving period

@michaelhearn3052

9 ай бұрын

@@shellyhudson1631AM only films once a week on his weekly hike up Monkey Hill, this may be on a Saturday. He is not a full time video maker, as he has a very important 9 to 5 professional job to do. He films certain troupes and is one of 4 people who videos the various troupes along Monkey Hill, the others being: JW who bought us the story of Stormy, who passed away in Nov 2021 IIRC. Monkeys Inc, who bought us the story of Charlotte and what happened to her. Then there is Animal, Food & Car Dashcam Vlog, who also videos on Monkey Hill. These are the English speaking recordings that are done. I would also expect that there are any number of Hong Kong Chinese speakers that have also uploaded videos on KZread. Your timescales are reasonably correct for the mums carrying their dead babies bodies around AFAIK. One of the main reasons why they abandon the dead bodies IMHO, is because of the stench or foul smelling odour, of a decaying body, and it is worse in the summer with the heat. I do recall AM commenting on this in one of his videos, in it he said he might perform an autopsy on the dead baby to find out what it died from. There has been no further news on that. But I have yet to see a dead babies body being buried along Monkey Hill, unlike those in Cambodia, where the cameramen bury dead babies with the usual 10 to 15 minute video interlaced with a number of adverts! The longest time for a mother to carry her dead baby is some 28 days plus, is the story of a baby chimp called Jockro, whose story is on KZread. Thanks you for your comments very useful.

Poor Baby Betsie has an abandoned look on her face. As if she knows her Mom has no emotional attachment left for her at alll and as sure as heck, herMom truly doesn’t want to be burdened by Betsie. The poor baby has a dry dehydrated look.

WHAT IN THE WORLD HAPPENED ?!?! 😮😢😖🥺😡

It seemed as if all of those family members; Bossy, Benny, the aunts, etc. just didn’t care that she was gone. Even Bessy didn’t seem all that distraught, not like those moms who carried their deceased babies. Could Bossy have intervened and made a difference if she wanted to. If that family is so darn close and caring for each other how could they let this happen. Dy isn’t even the oldest. 😐

@ickiedeer-lamb7282

Жыл бұрын

Like us each monkey is it's own personality 😅😅

@yvonneconte3040

Жыл бұрын

Yes, certainly was an unusual, odd situation. Poor Betsy, I thought she was so lovely

@philbert006

Жыл бұрын

I think it's more likely we just didn't see it. A few minutes of video a week showing his interaction with the monkeys only when they are on the road, which is in the evenings at feeding time, hardly shows any but the most superficial of interactions. On top of that, sometimes we don't see monkeys or even whole families for a few weeks, and Mr AM has affairs of his own to attend. Perhaps he didn't go one week. She could have carried her passed baby for two whole weeks and just dropped it an hour before he showed. A whole world of things happen and I'm sure people that are there most days don't necessarily notice. And then, there's nothing out of the ordinary happening to notice. Our narrator is documenting all this and pointing it out, and saying that it's new, but nothing unexpected or concerning. What is it you saw that concerned you? I'm not being rude. I watch these just like you. Usually several times. I read so the comments, I go back and watch when things I don't notice are mentioned. I laugh and smile and cry with you all when all this happens. Betsy was old enough to survive without bessy at all. Teeny survived and was that age, half that size, and didn't have a family of monkeys to help or watch out for her. I think it's more likely an accident befell our poor Betsy. It happens an awful lot, in nature and probably a whole lot more often considering how closely these monkeys are intertwined with people (and traffic😢). Something I just noticed in this video that was never mentioned is it appears bessy has the same issue as Reddy, being only one working breast. If you watch this closely you can see her left one is never bruised or stretched. It occurs to me that is probably a factor in bessy wanting to hand off her baby more often as Betsy would be chomping as Mr AM suggests, but only on one side. Anyway, if you think of any details that didn't get mentioned, please share. I really get into going back in the past videos and doing my own investigations. Unfortunately, I have more free time than I would like and this is one of the few things that makes me happy these days.

@elibell19

Жыл бұрын

​@@philbert006 I don't think it was a car. Dy wouldn't let her out of her sight or clutch. But she may have died trying to get away from Dy. I think Bessy thought ignoring Dy would work out or that she was old enough to handle it. Betsy clearly couldn't 😢. I know other babies have survived, but just like people, they are all different.

@philbert006

Жыл бұрын

@@elibell19 I don't think it was a car either. That's the least likely, in my opinion. I am certain that a pushy fat aunt didn't cause it. That was a 5 month old monkey. If not completely weaned, definitely mostly. Squealing and acting whiny never killed one. Dy sits there looking imposing and all but she isn't stopping the babe from eating and drinking. That baby was fat healthy and energetic, and as Mr AM pointed out, well able to get away if it really came down to it. Bessy isn't a novice mother either. As I said before, we see almost nothing of their actual lives. The forest is full of wild dogs and cats that will eat a small monkey and Dy too. It's also full of sneaky old Chinese poachers and hateful people and traps. Hong Kong is also a place that is absolutely brimming with malaria. Malaria is the only reason it exists. The Chinese confined outsiders to the island because its was uninhabitable due to malaria, thus it became a settlement for foreign traders and they like, as the Chinese hoped they would die or go away and monkeys are susceptible to malaria. Sorry about the brief history lecture. What I'm getting at is there are countless dangers out there in the wild especially for a wild little baby monkey. And she wouldn't be held down constantly like that in the forest. It's just ridiculous to think so. Dy holds her like that, like all the others do when they are on that hill because they are forced into close proximity to hostile troops and people, she is in protect mode when we see them. I think when our host shares his thoughts, which were that it's almost certainly not the case that babe starved because of ardent babysitting, that the aunt always shares foods and the baby looked perfectly healthy to him, that he has far more intimate experience with these groups than we do and while he felt admits he doesn't know for sure but his opinion is not that Dy caused it, it would be a safe assumption to follow. It annoys me to no end that some people hear that monkey whining and they immediately look to crucify the first one that's not it's mom instantly, like they are some kind of superior, like they didn't send their children screaming bloody murder into a dentists office or to stay with their aunt so mommy could have a break, or that we as humans somehow know better, or act any different, when in fact the reason we want to think it's bloody murder is because what separates us from them is not intelligence, but avarice, hate, and the desire to hurt others for pleasure. So we feel we need to project this onto the world to justify our superiority. It is a dangerous and unhealthy practice, it's why animals go extinct daily on this planet and why we fear constantly for the future, and it's unique to us. I'm sorry to get carried away, and I hope you do not think I'm attacking you or anyone else here. But I think immediately jumping to literally the most unlikely conclusion first instead of the hundreds of other, far more likely scenarios is a bit silly. This isn't a soap opera, these are wild animals in nature. In Mr AM s years of documenting the hundreds of monkeys on that island how many have died from being loved too hard? Half a dozen? Ten maybe? A fraction of a percent. Yet they see Dy holding a crying baby one time and people are in the comments screaming they wish Dy had her hands crushed and all sorts of insane shit. Less than five minutes of footage with that baby in her arms over the course of five months, looking healthy and energetic as possible, then several weeks later the baby is gone and we are just gonna execute Dy. There is a reason he does not show the feedings or anything more than the slightest squabbles, because when those wild animals really get to fighting and stomping over babies in the way or they pile up on cars driving by, folks get irrational in the comments and start screaming for someone's blood, acting instantly like a lynch mob, grab the first monkey you don't like the look of and euthanize it, then throw all the people that drive down the street in prison forever because a bunch of monkeys that have been ruined by others people's lack of self control or care for nature. Now, I'm being a bit dramatic for effect, but surely you can understand my point. Then, just to remind everyone, absolutely none of those problems would exist if it were not for the interference of people in the first place. Personally, I think Jesus will come back and rapture his people before Dy would even accidentally be the cause of death of one of those little monkeys. That is, as I said, my opinion though and it's subject to facts. The fact is, I don't know what happened any more than any of us, and it sucks. Another fact is I know intimately how harmful and easy it is to be accused and convicted of things simply because of convenience, because of being the easy target, the last face seen or being the one that's not always kissing up to everyone, and I see it happening to Dy, a fine aunt, trusted babysitter, and protector of all the monkeys around her, proven again and again, and it makes me sick and angry. I know we all get in our feelings about these creatures, as we should. They are God's gifts, just like we are and deserve the same love and respect. It is difficult beyond measure to love and respect when you get clouded with feelings and it's easy to make snap decisions based on feelings. It's our responsibility to not do that. Have your feelings, process them, hold on to them, do whatever you choose with them, but before you start making decisions and accusations, even as simple as cursing a monkey across the globe, we gotta put those feelings away, apply a bit of logic and critical thinking, and look at the clues we have available, as spare or plentiful as they happen to be. In this case, they are exceedingly spare, and I don't see any reason, no matter how infinitesimal, to lay blame anywhere. As you can see, clearly, I'm just as invested and emotional about them as anyone. I'm so bent out of shape about the comment someone left about breaking Dy s hands, I don't know what to do. I want to respond butt I don't think I could do so without being rather hurtful, probably getting myself reported or blocked, or hurting someone far more than they deserve for saying something in their feelings. I've been rather emotionally wrecked of late and don't have an outlet in the real world either, so it comes out here at times. Just reading comments from the same people, day in, day out, week after week, sharing a connection through these videos, it brings you close to people you don't know at all, have never spoken to, but get a feel for, just observing their interactions. And I think we are all better than the representation I'm seeing about this little monkey and her aunt. I can feel the anger coming out, feel that Dy is being unfairly convicted and sentenced. Suddenly she is the one that needs to be protected, and it kind of makes me feel ashamed. Anyhow, if you or anyone else make it this far, I'm sorry. I think Dy is getting a bad rap. I think we know better. I understand the feelings. And I wasn't to encourage us all to be sensible in what we say, and what we think. Which, it seems, I'm maybe not doing so well, but I'm not coming from a perceived pedestal of any sort. Just a word of caution from someone on the same side and maybe some encouragement for myself or anyone else, and all from a place of love!

Dy certainly didn’t seem to like you AM. She was throwing daggers at you with her eyes.

@yvonneconte3040

Жыл бұрын

Like, back off dude, mind your own business

@lourdeshernandez3710

Жыл бұрын

She maintains stranger far of her troop.

I don’t think this was a kidnapping gone wrong. I don’t understand baby abandonment in humans or animals. It’s a sad and tragic event.

So sad

@ickiedeer-lamb7282

Жыл бұрын

It is hi @deb.😊

Bubi has here own baby now!❤❤❤

Dy ignores all the squeaking and cries. My mom would beat hell out of if I’d thrown a fit like that. It must be a whipping to all the monkeys around who were sitting there when Dy brought Betsy there.

That kippnapp monkey not even letting her go

Poor Betsy was miserable without the physical touch and love of Bessie, her mom.

Bessy was a very young mother, and not all animals make good mother's.

I still want to understand monkey kidnapping/babysitting arrangements a lot better. And Bessy was never seen carrying the corpse at any point?

@thestorysofar

29 күн бұрын

She probably did but since I only visit the place once or twice a week to film as a hobby, each time for 2-3 hours at most, and each time I only have about less than 50% of chance of actually finding and seeing them, you are only seeing snapshots of their life in my videos and there are bound to be many gaps, I am afraid.

make me sad RIP baby Betsy