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@MissBunny850

2 жыл бұрын

Your really not suppose to give up your back like that

@AveSicarius

2 жыл бұрын

@@MissBunny850 I mean if you actually land a shot that staggers your opponent or seriously hurts them, which most spinning techniques will do if they land, then it doesn't really matter because they aren't going to be taking advantage of your back in the first place. If you throw a spinning back kick and your opponent takes a shot to the stomach, they aren't going to be able to grapple strongly at the very least, that's if they didn't get TKOed by it in the first place. I would say spinning backfists aren't the best movement, because they are relatively short-range and slow compared to spinning kicks or something like a spinning elbow, which you can do from a clinch break very quickly, but even then, your opponent still has to walk through that shot to take your back, not many people are going to be willing to do that. It's why you commonly see spinning techniques in MMA fights compared to, say, jumping techniques, which are way easier to work around. In sparring you will see people easily get taken down after throwing a spinning technique, because they are holding back and using control, but I don't know many people I think could take a full power spinning elbow to the chin and walk through it to take my back, let alone a spinning kick, and the people that could take it are significantly bigger than me, and would still be injured enough that I would at least have an advantage if they did take my back. Timing is also everything, if you set it up properly you can land just about anything relatively safely.

@lucian5389

2 жыл бұрын

@@AveSicarius woah someone in a KZread short actually knows what they talking about wtf

@anwarabdullah6723

2 жыл бұрын

How was that a bad stoppage?

@lilslavboi2171

2 жыл бұрын

you dont know shit yall

Wanderlei in his prime was an absolute monster.

@MichaelWilson-jr2xh

Жыл бұрын

So was Chung Le he just got into mma to late he was a great kick boxer

@franchisefred4066

Жыл бұрын

Roids have turned weak men into munsters. - Vitor Belfort

@Illn8ture

Жыл бұрын

@@franchisefred4066 Did Vitor say that before or after he got popped for using HGH?

@franciscojunior6691

Жыл бұрын

@@Illn8ture andeson Silva, e wanderlei Silva, lutadores assim não nasce todo dia

@NotKimiRaikkonen

Жыл бұрын

To be clear, this definitely wasn't him in his prime. Look at the delay in his counters...

The Axe Murderer has to be the dopest nickname to the scariest fighter

UFC miss that type of guy. He can lost to anybody, but also win against anybody

@o.gravity

Жыл бұрын

Actually Petr Yan KKK

@niqowyd

Жыл бұрын

There’s still tons of those lol Michael Johnson, Rozenstruik, Johnny Walker, Michael Chandler, any fighter who’s a glass cannon really.

@gualtiermalde645

Жыл бұрын

​@@o.gravity Sad for my boy Yan 🥲

@CasualMMAFan

9 ай бұрын

@@niqowydnone of those fighters mentioned bring the same level of impact that Wandy brought back when it was reasonable for him to still fight

@Ozaiyah

6 ай бұрын

Statement is a paradox

Guy: Getting Punched out, elbowed and kneed in the face. Then proceeded to get ground and pounded by hammerfists. Joe Rogan: that's a bad stoppage

@JRF1004

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the old UFC days for ya

@SuperPeterok

2 жыл бұрын

Even screaming "NO!" Showing his bias

@hastaman8946

2 жыл бұрын

Fighters can take alot , That was a Bad stoppage ...miss the old days....ONE Championship has more 🔥 i say ✌️

@chicagomando3066

2 жыл бұрын

The Pride days were dope too

@SuperPeterok

2 жыл бұрын

@@hastaman8946 it was fairly decent. Le was bouncing around like he was at a trampoline park.

Silva was a beast, that's one scary human

Well it looked like bad stoppage at first , but when he saw le's nose he corrected himself

Wanderley insano, época de Pride era monstro demais ...... E no UFC proporcionou lutas insanas!!! Wand orgulho de ser Brasileiro e Paranaense!!! Heyyyyyyyy🥊🥊🥊

I wish Kung Lee would’ve got into the UfC when he was younger he had great talent.

@mikeyg8568

2 жыл бұрын

Cung Le

@marcosnz19ify

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t care

@spamstabber

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcosnz19ify Cung Le

@marcosnz19ify

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t care

@khansouphanousinphone4718

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed even old Cung Le was still giving guys the business.

Wanderlei was the best brawler of all time

Cung le was one of my first fav fighters, i love his heavy kicking style

@jamessmithjr6788

2 жыл бұрын

That and his scissor take downs

@user-ov1ps7go4m

2 жыл бұрын

It was hard to watch this fight being a huge Cung Le fan. Good thing he retired after the Bisping fight.

@AroundElvesWatchUrselves96

2 жыл бұрын

Sanda

@montewood5827

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ov1ps7go4m he woulda became a better mma fighter if he wasn't so old, one of the best strikers to transition in mma but he clearly had the potential to become all around if he was younger

@dongachette8321

2 жыл бұрын

I'm happy to hear people still talk about cung le he was awesome

Wanderlei: ⬅️ ➡️ ⬅️ ➡️ Cung Le: 🌪

Miss Silva in the Octagon. Was a straight savage in Pride and UFC . The fight with Him and Brian Stann was Epic

Goddamn I miss watching that man work. Wandy is such a badass

Cung Le was awesome.

@omegaweapon116

Жыл бұрын

I was sad to see him lose that match

That last knee completely bent Cung’s nose to the left of his face. 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

I miss the pride FC match days.

@snicklesnockle7263

Жыл бұрын

one fc is still there

I remember Frank Shamrock telling Cung Le he could out strike him standing. Cung Le throws a kick with flames coming off of it and Frank blocks it with his forearm.. Shattering his forearm seconds later Cung Le finished him great fight😎😎💪💪

@BastardX13

2 жыл бұрын

I remember poor Frank giving the post fight interview with the broken arm. Great fight indeed!

I love Silva he’s a Lion! He has no Fear of anyone 👍👍👍

I wish Cung Le would've started fighting in the UFC when he was younger. As old as he was when he fought the few fights he did were so awesome to watch. Insane karate moves straight from the movies.

@elmagnifico5248

3 ай бұрын

Sanda not karate

I miss Wanderlei. Remember when he'd go for the knockout the last 14 seconds. Just no defense running and swinging. Shit was great.

@mrd2392

2 жыл бұрын

He has cte man. His brain is fucked, he planned to donate his brain so people could study it.

@kojomack2512

2 жыл бұрын

Man like wanderlei....

@user-tu7je3qn6e

2 жыл бұрын

Good old times, I love to watch his vale-tudo fights, where he was just absolute savage, headbutts, elbows, etc., insane!

@RDA8191

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-tu7je3qn6e watching him in his prime (2002-2005) was truly something amazing. He's a one in 10 million type of human. 0 relenting, 0 quit, unbreakable will. The Arturo Gatti of mma

@brotherinchrist1079

Жыл бұрын

​​@Sub if you are against antifa and BLM Still Wanderlie went out on his shield in that fight. He never played it safe. Even in defeat he always left it all in the ring or cage. I respect him even in his losses. 💯💥🤛

I agree with Joe bad stoppage 🤷🏽‍♂️ them boys were going to war

@rdgpromotions6087

2 жыл бұрын

Lee was taking repeated heavy strikes without throwing much back and then falls face first whilst taking more punches on the ground. In what world is that a bad stoppage?

@stephenstuckey

2 жыл бұрын

Str8up...dude wasnt goin anywhere, he popped right back up once the ref stepped in

@fubusupporter5933

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenstuckey and so did Justin gaethje after his fight with Dustin porier so what’s that’s argument mean 😂

@twomindz79

2 жыл бұрын

@@rdgpromotions6087 Joe was saying its a bad stoppage because lee was taking lot of damage .

@jimmorrison3830

2 жыл бұрын

Reading my mind.. BAD ✋️ STOPAGE

People who watch Wanderlei fighting can't imagine how chill he's in person. Dude walks in his home town and do normal stuff like if he wasn't a legend and stop to talk and to take pictures with everyone who asks for. I know him since I was a teenager, and recently we used to go to the same gym and we always talk about the old days of our town. Such a humble guy.

Wanderlei was 70% toughness, 25% stupidity, and 5% skill.

@littlethuggie

Жыл бұрын

@Liberal Destroyer don't care

@brotherinchrist1079

Жыл бұрын

​@@littlethuggie hahahaha real talk!!😂 Fools always talking out their asses like thier comments gonna take anything away from the fighters.😂

@mourao7892

Жыл бұрын

He had skill, otherwise he couldnt be champion on pride. But if you know him outside the cage, he always said " i want to make a show for the people, i want them to feel excited, thats why i go for all or nothing"

@littlethuggie

Жыл бұрын

@@mourao7892 5%

@mourao7892

Жыл бұрын

@@littlethuggie hahahaha

At the end they said it was a bad stoppage

@realtalk4371

2 жыл бұрын

Such a bad call from Rogan. CUNG lee's nose got broken. He was out.

@resolveyeetlord8340

2 жыл бұрын

This is what rogan should have been exposed for is his biased commentary

@user-zs6vf7pj5y

2 жыл бұрын

@@resolveyeetlord8340 nah not this one. Rogans favorite fighter or at least one of them is Wanderlei. It did look like a bad stoppage but Joe didn't see Cungs nose caved in. He even corrects himself once he sees it.

@TheLeadHook

2 жыл бұрын

@@resolveyeetlord8340 casual. Wanderlei is Joes favourite fighter

@nk-dw2hm

2 жыл бұрын

@@resolveyeetlord8340 I thought that was always known, didn't think anyone was unaware

Both these guys took some major hits. Props to both of them.

Kung Lee is s victim of his older age at this time joining the ufc, had he started much younger he'd have been a champion imo.

@humanbean1424

2 жыл бұрын

Not much people know this. He has great wrestling and excellent stand up.

@Ziyech1

25 күн бұрын

still lost to a out of prime Wanderlei

While swinging and banging can be entertaining, this shows how much MMA has evolved. All thanks to these pioneers obviously.

@AveSicarius

2 жыл бұрын

I mean much of this footage is later in the fight, and these guy's were really going at it, so yeah their technique is going to suffer eventually. You still do see this in most heavier divisions of MMA, I mean look at the current Middle and Heavyweight division, you have plenty of guys who quickly devolve into this kind of fighting. Jorge Masvidal made a career out of brawling like this. Cung Le was also a pretty good striker due to his Sanda training, you can see this moreso in his K1 fights, but he maintained a pretty good standard in MMA (he was like 40 at this time I think), so I'd say this is more him unloading early then just resorting to trying to pummel Wanderlei because HE WOULD NOT GO DOWN (it was actually pretty crazy to see). Fighters can also look awkward when placed in awkward situations, Andy Hug was one of the best striker's in his day, and he still has a match against an opponent with no real full contact experience that made him look confounded (he was still very clearly winning but his opponent was so awkward it was difficult to respond to them). Performance for the same fighter can vary highly between fights depending on matchup. The average quality of most MMA divisions has risen, I'll agree with that, just because guys have been specifically training for MMA over a longer period, whereas in 2011 we still had quite a few guys like Cung Le who swapped over from Kickboxing and other mono-discipline combat sports (e.g. lot's of pure wrestler's and BJJ guys were still knocking around etc), but I'd honestly say it hasn't evolved as much as people seem to think, the component's have just been integrated more tightly and the level of competition is generally higher in most divisions (some are much weaker though, like the modern heavyweight division compared to ten years ago is far less scary). Even then you have guys like Khabib running through a division using a single style, so clearly there is still plenty of room left for improvement. Israel Adesanya is a striking specialist, and still made it to the top of the middleweight division. In fact it's very rare to see a complete MMA fighter still, which is where the evolution of the sport is going with younger fighters. But we still have a bunch of the old guard, we have hyperspecialists like Wonderboy who nobody will try to strike with but he's very vulnerable to wrestler's, and we have plenty of brawler's still knocking about. I mean Francis Ngannou is basically brawling incarnate, if you stand toe to toe with him he'll hit you hard enough to lift you off your feet, but he's far from a technical fighter and doesn't even really have any mix-up potential because he's been so successful with just power punching. We also see brawler's like Kelvin Gastelum remaining somewhat relevant (though he's had a bad run recently) and Robbie Lawler, the king of MMA brawler's, is definitely still very dangerous if people decide to play his game despite not being as technically proficient in grappling (which has definitely been exploited recently). We see less guys like Big Country, Mark Hunt, and Daniel Henderson, who were very much some extremely dangerous power punching brawler's back in the day, but that's only natural given that most people have more extensive training now (not that these guy's couldn't hold their own into today's division, because it's always a risk fighting someone like that). I'd also say many of the best MMA fighters were in the past, GSP was probably up there as having the best MMA style, he could MMA wrestle (which is very different to pure Wrestling) better than wrestler's and still had dangerous stand-up, and he just flowed between those two like nobody else then or since aside from one or two notable exceptions like Jon Jones or DJ, who were also extreme all-rounders. Technique is important in modern MMA, but it's still not that evident in many fighters.

@jesseflores9087

2 жыл бұрын

You obviously don't know what you are watching. Those spinning kicks are high level. Even today many mma fighters can't execute them effectively like Le, or Thompson can.

@somdutroy

2 жыл бұрын

@@jesseflores9087 Was talking about Wanderlei here.

@jesseflores9087

2 жыл бұрын

@@somdutroy ok, my bad

Wandele is very dangerous when he has u in that muay thai clinch

Rogan: “we rarely see a tentative silva” Silva *swings for the fences*

I like how that one fighter pre-flattened his nose to save his opponent time. Very thoughtful.

LENDA VIVA,VIDA LONGA VANDERLEI 👍🏻🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

If it a fight with Wandy...it's a guaranteed WAR!! Never boring...Never!!🤘😆

Lol god I miss Goldie, “here we go!”

@lefthookheaven6377

2 жыл бұрын

I was never more hyped when he said right before Diaz/Mcgregor 1

@jessth9060

2 жыл бұрын

I miss him too . Anik results me really bored .

@StallionFernando

2 жыл бұрын

Better than DC and Bisping

@chilidawg1443

Жыл бұрын

Fag

Now you know that he deserve the name. Axe murder🥶🥶

O melhor de todos os tempos, lutador diferenciado e influenciador de gerações. War Wand

Wandi and Sakuraba made my early 2000 Pride top team. Them 2 were my dogs. Not because they were the best or the biggest but because they fought the best and the biggest. ✔💯🏆✊

"Insane comeback knockout" except no one was knocked out and it was pretty equal..

Joe was pulling for his fellow TKD bro, Cung Le!!! BAD STOPPAGE!!! 😂

Wanderlei o melhor brasileiro sem duvidas coração puro disposição ia pra dentro dos caras por isso tem meu respeito

Joe saying it’s a bad stoppage at the end, until you see how destroyed le’s nose was

It doesn't matter how hurt you are these guys want to die in that ring that's ultimate victory, cung was still conscious and intelligently defending himself it is what it is sometime you could ask alot of MMA fighters will give you a similar story

Cung Le and Wanderlei Silva 2 Legends

“That’s a bad stoppage.” - Joe Rogan Well this guys gonna upload this like it wasn’t Joe. 😂

The king of the swarm and hope something lands

Lutadores como Rampage Jackson, Bryan stann e Sakuraba,entre outros experimentaram essas joelhadas da lenda viva Wand Silva...salve!!!

When your salt & pepper squid has been made with regular black pepper.

Uma das melhores lutas do UFC. Lee tinha feito a melhor luta do bellator contra o Frank!

WHAT AN INSANE SERIES OF EVENTS!

Cung li was really good even he started late and beyod his prime.

Ese Cung Le te bajaba los pies como se baja un hacha... The best 👌

That was hell of a fight,oldies the best

Damn just those names got my attention. Like oh shit they really oh snaps it's on I'm stand over hear back against the wall. Awesome fight

This fight was insane. Actually, the whole card was great! Shogun vs hendo was the main event and one of the greatest fights

One of the best finishers when he smelled blood. The aura around this guy back in pride was something you rarely see

There will never be another. If you weren't watching pride in 2002-2005, you missed watching one of the most incredible, viscous fighters of all time. All heart and brutality. Wanderlei Silva will always be the Arturo Gatti of mma

Yeah Chael Sonen sure knew not to let this guy get close

Cachorro louco kkkk esse mexe com nossa adrenalina. Grande Wanderley.

두선수 대단 합니다.

Wanderlai punches like a kid that got real mad

Seems like just pushing in and overwhelming the guy is all he had to do. He wasn't doing very good at a distance. Silva is a legend though, some of his pride fights are fucking scary.

Most underrated UFC fight

“That’s a bad stop”

These two veterans of the sport and still going with fire. Respect and admiration!

WAND,le boss,le seul, l'unique,il nous a fait vibrer à chacun de ses combats dans les années 90 et 2000 ! 💪☝🏴‍☠️

I didn’t know these 2 fought!! That’s so awesome!!

Cung Le's KO of Rich Franklin was a thing of beauty

Great back and forth fight it was. Dan Henderson and shogun had their legendary fight as the main event on that card. One of the best ufc ppv cards ever

Lol right at the end Joe. "That's a BAD stoppage."

Época boa, onde a galera lutava com gosto, dois grandes lutadores 👏🏻👏🏻🎉

Joe at the end: that was a bad stoppage

The old Wanderlei came out for a second with those knees

Quem dera ver hj em dia um lutador completo como Vanderlei,quase não vejo,só vejo montagem e lutas escolhidas e muito falatórios,lutas arranjadas...Vanderlei é uma lenda no Japão ainda hoje, é reverenciado pelos japoneses é endeusado e respeitado; parabéns Vanderlei seu legado fez histórias!!

Wanderlei fights like a f*cking robot

Man crazy to see how much the game has evolved

Wanderley Silva inspirou e inspira muita gente 👏🏾🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷Brasil .

Once an opponent goes into the fetal position it's never a bad stoppage Joe, C'MON MAN

Cung Le was one of my favorites to watch. Such a badass fighter

Честно сражались обоим большое уважение!!!

Whatever your age,fighter always fighter,spirit never and.

Silva always looks like he is fighting on roller skates.

Jesus you can see the huge leaps in technique of the average ufc fighter from then to now. They would be getting clowned throwing punches like that and the awkward half assed clinch exchanges. Still this era of the ufc was crazy cause of all the roids

Cung Le was like a magician. A crazy bag of tricks, but High risk high reward

Wanderlei era Excepcional. PARABÉNS pela Belíssima carreira. 👊👊👊👊

I'm still a Cung Le fan. love the guy

Ó lendário cachorro 🐶 Louco pura brutalidade coração de leão 🦁 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

That was a GREAT stoppage.

Essas lutas de antigamente parecia ser de verdade!

I remember them saying this was an early stoppage despite chung was flat on his belly eating shots.

@phoneshop7253

2 жыл бұрын

ช

Вот это бой,Так бой,очень круто

You hear Goldy and see sponsors on the shorts you know it's an oldie.

Lembro perfeitamente desse combate... Cung Lee e seus chutes potentes pra machucar... só que Wanderley e seu joelho acabaram com.a cara do cung Lee...ficou todo quebrado e corte profundo...

Todas as lutas de wanderley eram um show de luta. Só trocação. Pra mim ele foi um dos melhores do mundo

“That’s a BAD stoppage!”

That era of ufc was my favourite

Cung lee had a MW thorax and the rest stayed in another division or something

Silva should be in the hall of fame that man was nasty nasty

Respeita o cachorro louco rapa 🤜🔥🤤👏🙅

Cung Lê , from 🇻🇳 VietNamese

Those were the good Ole days man. Guys would stand up and bang and knock each other out