Just found your channel. This is really good! I will definitely share with others.

This content is music to my ears. I saw your video about the history channel and you’re right. It is entertainment, not history. 90% of documentaries of KZread are also garbage. It is so nice to actually learn about the things I’m interested in as opposed to having smoke blown up my @55.

@williamrobert9898

Жыл бұрын

Well that just happened to you again and you praise it LMAO

@BlancoWilliams

8 ай бұрын

This video is literally awful. A lot of the information the person is spewing is out of his ass, not actual historical facts.

6:50 Love the contextualisation with the Himyar and Aksum rivalry as a proxy war of the Roman and Persian as a way of controling trade routes.

They went to ethopia because the african king there was known to be so kind, and accepting of others and strange ideas. We arabs called him Al-Najashi, the king who never shadows his people ( referring to his kind demeanor ). They stayed there to regroup from conflict basically. The king is named najashi, while the region was called “habasha”.

This was an awesome video very entertaining and informative. I learnt alot

I am not so sure about the lack of continuity between the Sassanid and Parthia. empires. It is true that the ruling house was the House of Sassan, but the Parthian aristocratic houses continued to play a prominent role in governing and defending the empire.

@MaryamofShomal

7 ай бұрын

As an Iranian, I’m used to both the West and the East getting our history wrong, nevertheless Grant’s knowledge of the region’s history is better than most I’ve seen and heard. Much respect for his work.

You do have a good channel Just had to say thanks for your work bro,

I cant imagine how much homework went throughout the making of this video, thank you.

I need to watch/listen to this one one more time

Just watched a quarter of this video and while it is very good there are a few mistakes. 1) Muslims did not migrate to abysinnia because of a inter Muslim dispute. They left because there was a genuine fear that the small community would be eliminated because it was only located in Makkah. A few Muslim families moved to abysinnia so that Islam would be preserved. 2) They were lead by Uthman IBN affan ( not IBN mazun) who was from the Ummayad clan but he was also the son in law of the Prophet. The central piece of Islam is believing in the oneness of God and believing Muhammad and other prophets to be messengers and prophets of God. So if you dispute leadership with the Prophet of your time, you are essentially an apostate. 3) after the third battle, the Jews of Banu qurayza were judged by a former ally (Saad IBN muadh) according to the old testament. The punishment for treason in the old testament and Talmudic law was execution for the men and enslavement for women and children. The previous two tribes were expelled in their entirety from the city. Most of them settled in the oasis of khaybar while a few moved to Syria. From khaybar, they actively participated in the wars against Muslims on the makkan side. They induced Banu qurayza to commit treason. 4) the control of the ka'ba Was not given to the Prophets clan. The keys of the ka'bah were given to an adversary of the Prophet, Uthman IBN talha who then converted to Islam. The keys of the ka'bah are still with this family Banu shayba. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bani_Shaiba 5) in the old testament, there has never been a prophet who has claimed to be the Final Prophet. So no, you haven't heard that before 😊

@1994mrmysteryman

10 ай бұрын

This dude saying everyone was executed, made my blood boil. He does not fact check before spewing such a blatant lie.

@user-kb4si2lk4t

8 ай бұрын

the fact that the basic level 'research' he did totally botched up Muslims going to Ethiopia shows he cobbled this together using google and didn't bother to pick up a Quran and read it for himself OR look at videos by Muslim scholars themselves.

@josephmatthews7698

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for your corrections. Watching this as a westerner I could tell he used predominantly western sources and I wish he would have used more middle eastern and Muslim sources. Having read the Quran but by no means an expert I caught many of these differences as well. Perhaps he was only using non-religious sources? I think the 'last prophet' jab has come from many modern cults with leaders who claim to be the last prophet. Like Moon in Korea claims Jesus got it wrong and he was sent to fix that mistake of love and marriage. Joseph Smith from US Mormonism claimed to be the final prophet because God sent him to correct the mistake in belief that middle America was the real garden of eden. Or John the Baptist from South America who was the last prophet and got acclaim even from people like Oprah and other famous people, he used his fame and control over the cult to sexually assault countless women. David Koresh in Texas called himself the last prophet... the list goes on and on. As-salamu alaykum my brother, thank you again.

@1994mrmysteryman

8 ай бұрын

@@josephmatthews7698 The concept of being the "last prophet" did not exist before Prophet Muhammad. All these names you mentioned came after him, not before. It was a completely novel idea in his time. The idea of revelation coming to a halt for all eternity. Other people saw how popular it was in Islam, and tried using it. All of it can be traced back to Prophet Muhammad. Before him, no recorded man in history had even claimed to be a final messenger. No one of any note anyway.

@petekreamer4492

5 ай бұрын

the notion of some sort of 'final prophet' followed by a smiley face is positively psychotic

Although there was mistakes about some of events and some personal opinions, yet the amount of time and work spent to make this happen is appreciated. Greeting from Saudi Arabia 👏🏻

@mrcocoloco7200

Жыл бұрын

Holy crap man. That history is some crazy stuff but hey all history are like that.

@cpt7752

10 ай бұрын

Labayka ya Husayn, Ya Ali.

@superpekka772

8 ай бұрын

@@cpt7752 its labayk allahumma labayk

@PKIBRAGAMING

Ай бұрын

@@cpt7752Ya Allah

@catherinecooper8370

20 күн бұрын

*were mistakes* Not *was mistakes*

Your respectful explanation , earned you my respect

Outstanding Video, a must watch. One of the perspectives this vid brought out was how much impact control of the “Perfume” and the other Trade Roads had on the initial Islamic Wars. I do know that the initial Arab Muslim-Jewish Conflict was from a Muslim perspective, religious, from a Jewish perspective, economic. I don’t think many folks comprehend this.

Brilliant work. This is an in-depth view of the birth of Islam. My only comment is on the segment where early Muslims emigrated to Ethiopia. It wasn’t by tribal rivalry, but more due to prophet Mohammad’s early experience in trade where he heard of the then king of Ethiopia and hoped to open a branch of Islam there under the protection of said king so the trip (one of two tries to establish Islam in Ethiopia) was ordered by him as a way to ease pressure off his followers and a to divert the effort of Quraich.

@rhetoric5173

Жыл бұрын

in depth? its full of mistakes

@melroyc.f.fernandes7467

Жыл бұрын

@@rhetoric5173 Please refute the mistakes with evidence.

@rhetoric5173

Жыл бұрын

@@melroyc.f.fernandes7467 did you ask for evidence when uh dust heard the monolog?

@melroyc.f.fernandes7467

Жыл бұрын

@@rhetoric5173 I assume his monolog was based on his reading of the books he has displayed on his table. What do you have to table in support of your claim?

@rhetoric5173

Жыл бұрын

@@melroyc.f.fernandes7467 better books, why are you assuming selectively

Uthman was one of the closest friend of prophet Mohammad. Multiple of his daughters were married to him and 20:15 as far as I remember the women and childrens were spared and not only that it was seen as one of the lesson from prophet to be kind towards people who aren’t involved in war. Overall your content is good but I suggest reading multiple sources before making a claim. Anyone who has any prior knowledge or context to Islamic history can easily tell some of the claims are from side x and or y that was made years after the events for different political reasons.

@Munthasir123

Жыл бұрын

Also two more things: Tribal structure existed but not monarchy in Arab culture. Islam established meritocracy something which was not well understood by former Sasanid portion of the empire. As we have seen many times in history with many religions that as it travels to different parts of the world it mixes local culture with religious beliefs. That is why most of Ali’s supporters came from the eastern part of the empire and also later those eastern parts became Shia while most of the Arabian peninsula remained Sunni. There are many accounts where Ali didn’t want to be in position of leadership and as mentioned he was young and knew his time would come and as per Arabian culture respected the elders. Many of Ali’s story were later fabricated by Shia to make their believers get pissed at Sunnis and many stories were made up by Sunni sultans and historians to cite reasoning behind why battle with Ali was inevitable. Again reading multiple source would have given you a clearer picture and if you don’t buy either side then you could have cited both saying this is what each side claims which is something many other KZreadrs do.

@Munthasir123

Жыл бұрын

Secondly, Prophet didn’t give the key of Kaba to his tribe for any monarchical structure but rather because of tradition. Also he didn’t give it to his tribe. He gave it to a specific family again because of tradition. Not even Shia scholars dispute that so I don’t know where that claim came from. On the conquest of Makkah, the Prophet was given the keys to the Kaaba and instead of keeping it in his own possession; he returned them back to the Osman ibn Talha of the Bani Shaiba family. They had been the traditional key keepers of the Kaaba for centuries; and the Prophet confirmed them in that role till the end of time by these words “Take it, O Bani Talha, eternally up to the Day of Resurrection, and it will not be taken from you unless by an unjust, oppressive tyrant.”

@Munthasir123

Жыл бұрын

Also for all the criticism I have made I have to thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy of many later Islamic rulers. Forceful conversation certainly happened in places because some religious people go nutts even though forced conversation is strictly prohibited in Islam but majority times Islamic kingdoms didn’t want people to convert to Islam because they couldn’t collect lucrative Jijya tax from non Muslims. There are even cases where Arab Islamic kingdoms told non Arab Muslims that they were not true Muslims since they aren’t Arab therefore Jijya tax was valid upon them. I think some Ottoman Sultans also created laws where your father or grandfather had to be Muslim for you not to pay Jijya tax. It’s ridiculous but hey end of the day money talks for them religion was simply a political tool.

@Munthasir123

Жыл бұрын

Also funny you mentioned Uthman’s castle as he was filthy rich but lived in a mud hut and had no bodyguards or anyone defending him. He was a great merchant and economic reformer but a terrible ruler. He deserves a lot of criticism but I can clearly see you only read Shia source.

@TylerTheObserver

Жыл бұрын

@ali he means Terrible in terms of his policies, not his personality.

Only a quarter way through. And so far I'm loving it. Thank you for the video. 🎉 May Allah bless you. ❤

A lot of errors and misrepresentations here. Let me mention some. First off, the first Muslims who fled to Abbyssinia, modern day Ethiopia via Saila, North West Somalia, were led by Ja’far Abu Dalib and the reason being persecution by Quraish and it was advised by the Prophet himself starting that there’s (in Ethiopia) a just king who would offer you an asylum. Plus, the Quraish, upon learning that they escaped towards Ethiopia, dispatched a group of men contesting their legitimate asylum seeking. Upon arrival, both sides presented their cases in front of the King Najashi who granted the Prophet’s apostles an asylum after they recited a chapter of the Qur’an dealing how Mary conceived Jesus Christ and his miraculous birth at which point the King himself being Christian and knowledgeable of his faith, wept due to emotion. Secondly, there’s no enmity between Othman bin Affan and the Prophet, and after embracing the faith not converting, Othman’s daughter, Hafsa was later married by the Prophet thus becoming in-laws. Third, Abu Bakar’s succession of the Prophet was based on a hint given by the Prophet himself after he nodded to him to lead the last prayer at the mosque attended by the Prophet which was interpreted as a signal to the apostles to elect Abu Bakar. Lastly, I don’t have space here, but I conclude my comment by saying that the narrator has omitted the theological part of the history of early Islam. Another thing I have to mention here is that, it was Mu’awiya Bin Abu Sufyan who hailed from Osman’s sub-clan who established the dynasty (ummuwiyah) in Dimuscus… I wish I had the time to correct you. But all in all, it seems this man has derived this from non-Islamic sources! Having said that there’s a lot of correct information in here as well!!!!

@ultragoku72

10 ай бұрын

Thank you brother i was looking for someone to correct what mistakes i have noticed in the first few minutes of the video. I found your comment helpful and accurate

@pranavjagdish

10 ай бұрын

Is it not possible that a neutral observer tends to not fall for the Sunni-Shiite trap when describing this history? You want him to talk about the “hints” and this and that but then thats like taking sides between either parties and most definitely the other side will have a counter on it.

@ahmedabdi3186

10 ай бұрын

You’re welcome, brother.

@ahmedabdi3186

10 ай бұрын

Presenting facts isn’t tantamount to talking sides. You either refute it or acknowledge it. Nothing in between!

@pranavjagdish

10 ай бұрын

@@ahmedabdi3186 Nods and Signals and hearsay do not make for facts. Early Islamic history is usually only available from Islamic sources and hence has always been taken with a pinch of salt

You are so underrated.

@hmmm3210

Жыл бұрын

You misspelled overrated

This video is great, any book recommendations to learn more about this?

I just found your channel and I am looking forward to viewing more videos. Do you have any recommendations for books on medical history and occult/ spiritualism history? I'd love to hear.

@CasualHistorian

2 жыл бұрын

I don't have any recommendations for medical history. The closest would be Amity Shlaes' book "The Great Society" which talks about some of the political and economic context of the passage of Medicare and Medicaid, but nothing about the practice of medicine.

@chrishorst1318

2 жыл бұрын

He won't read books he only wayches tv look at him.

@Mohammedinamullahkhan

10 ай бұрын

Watch Yasir Qadhi Seerah of Prophet Muhammad Pece be Upon Him...Watch all videos I will send you a gift.

@Erthalni

10 ай бұрын

​@@Mohammedinamullahkhan This offer valid for me as well?😆

@Mohammedinamullahkhan

10 ай бұрын

@@Erthalni Yes in shaa Allah

Great video Grant, I love your videos on Islamic history. It's very interesting.

@magaing0689

Жыл бұрын

Although not correct

@user-iy3nh5yy6s

Жыл бұрын

بل هو صحيح

@magaing0689

10 ай бұрын

@@md.shaghilsubhani.1639 😂😂?)

@mohammedaldadah2178

10 ай бұрын

Its only interesting but mostly alternate history .. not from the authenticated books

@alansokelisatruehero8520

10 ай бұрын

​@@magaing0689 ​ you also been told the Christian bible was corrupted yet the dead sea scrolls proved beyond doubt that what is included in the bible was identical to the scrolls discovered and dated to the time of Jesus Christ, the only errors were minor punctuation errors like a period or comma occasionally. so you have been lied to. the christian scripture mohamed had access to is the same we have access to today. there's no qurans dating back to the time of mohamed and the oldest ones vary drastically between each other. once you.break free of islam propaganda you could learn something but islam requires censorship, not open dialogue for these very reasons. how many caliphs were murdered by fellow muslims from it's very inception? how many of the first 6 caliphs peacefully passed on the title to their successor? it's surprising the suspiciously sinful prophet wasn't murdered by his followers himself. My first reading of the quran was to actually defend islam from people saying it was a violent religion, i had read the rubaiyat of omar khayyam which i respected, but it was so SO much worse and with the second reading my impression got even worse. i had to stop on my third to not effect my relationships with hereditary muslims friends. its shocking how many people can read such horrific edicts and say "yep, that's for me". there is a reason it wants and needs it's members to kill apostates, those who learned arabic enough to read the quran or a translation into their native language and discovered what it says, or they read another book that shows one how to have a deep, life changing religious experience with the actual God over all, and islam cannot have pointing out things that are blatantly obvious to non muslims. i pray and hope people break free of their imposed religions, all religions, if one doesn't free themselves form their parents and their cultures religion they have no true faith. you would be a Hindu if born in India, or Atheist if born in a communist country until one breaks free of what happened by the chance of birth. only when you start fresh can one truly find God. before one breaks free you are just blindly pushing the given ideology of that region or family that was pushed onto them, which was pushed onto them, and so on and so on, and you never truly experience God in a meaningful way.

I love your videos man!

Very nicely put with the help of graphics etc etc

Good job!

Beautiful work man, great job 👏🏼 👏🏼👏🏼

I can't blame the guy if there are any mistakes. Most of Western academia doesn't have objective research on islam. it's only selective parts of islamic literature fully translated and discussed. Hopefully, in the future, the recent research by muslims and nonmuslims who work with the traditional islamic institutions will give more light into islamic history. For the time being, we're stuck with limited information that the public knows, which isn't much. However I think it's good for us to criticize and it's necessary for channels like these to reach out to religious muslim channels that have connections to a islamic scholarships and find more information instead of relying on the internet-western academics which is very limited about islam.

@maracohen5930

Жыл бұрын

The problem with Muslim research on Islamic history is if objective facts are in opposition to the religious narrative, fatwas get tossed about and folks end up dead.

@oskary2833

10 ай бұрын

Then why are no Muslims translating such documents?

@tomlxyz

10 ай бұрын

​@@oskary2833maybe I'm wrong but as far as i understand it many Muslim don't want translations but rather the original text since things can get lost in translation

@HandFromCoffin

9 ай бұрын

@@tomlxyz I believe this is a point but it can be overcome. Also facts and dates don't have this problem.

@renamanvelova5200

9 ай бұрын

You got to remember every country has a different version of history

Great research and great video. One note though, Arabic is written right to left not left to right. The script fails when written LtR. note: I just noticed you fixed it starting around 1:03:00

Where did you you get the story about rivalry between uthman ra and the Prophet saws

@B0Sajwah

10 ай бұрын

It's the reason we have shia and sunna.

@MohammedAbdulNoumaan

Ай бұрын

The rivalry is not between uthman and prophet where as it was between the clans​@@B0Sajwah

You mentioned that the Buyids where originally from the Fars province which is not correct. They where Daylamites from the Gillan province, north of Iran.

Absolutely amazing work. I’m a Muslim born in Saudi Arabia. Religion was taught everyday, all day but your video has taught me so much more. Thank you.

@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273

10 ай бұрын

Lot of misinformation اقرا كتاب البداية والنهاية تعرف الحقيقة

@Dfthg-bz3hp

10 ай бұрын

​@@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273point out the inaccuracies point by point,since this is something you're passionate about. We will wait

@angrytedtalks

10 ай бұрын

@@Dfthg-bz3hp we will be waiting a long time. There is no reason whatsoever to suppose the video is inaccurate.

@mohammedaldadah2178

10 ай бұрын

​@@Dfthg-bz3hp dont worry im reporting the misinformation as much as i can

@Dfthg-bz3hp

10 ай бұрын

@mohammedaldadah2178 copy and paste it here,scrolled and could find your post. Also are you sunni or Shia? I'm neither so want to know the perspective it's coming from

Really live these, gotta slow down just a bit . Ur talking super fast. I want to absorb your words and digest the information :)

Can you tell us, how often did we hear from a prophet that he is the last? I cant remember one. Although you sarcasticly implied this.

@CasualHistorian I have a problem with the title, it was an Arab khalifate when Islam was inside of Arabia but as soon as it inherited the Byzantine and Persian Empires it became a multi-ethnic empire. The Arabs consisted of 5% of the entire Ummayads Empire The subjects were Persians, Romans, Jews, Coptics, Berbers, Visgoth etc it's like calling USA an English empire just because the 13 states started of English and speak English doesn't make the USA an English empire. Or calling South America a Spanish empire

@ismaeilalfahim1552

6 ай бұрын

But that’s exactly what you would call them.. the colonies were part of the British Empire and Latin America was definitely part of the Spanish Empirical system for much of their recent history. Demographics are irrelevant when talking about the identity of the Empire when the leadership, language and religion is so entrenched in Arab culture. The Roman Empire had ethnic Roman’s as a minority, so did the British Empire. Any problems with calling it an Arab Empire stems from Crusade-era Arab hate or a misunderstanding of the concept of an expansionist Empire. Logically, the more an Empire grows, the more ethnically diverse it will become and thus the governing party will occupy an increasingly smaller minority.

I am form Makkah And I know that Hashemi Clan is the most powerfull clan in Makkah even before islam Also there no think name Umayya clan before islam there clan name Abd Shams ibn Abd Manaf which is you think is Umayya clan Which is weaker than Hashemi clan however there is clan that is almost as powerful as Hashemi clan Which is Banu Makhzum clan And the reason why those clans did not kill the prophet Because of the power of Hashemi clan also the reason why those clan fight the islam is becouse they was very competitors with Hashemi clan

@submeoff3297

Жыл бұрын

Hashim & Abd Shams are sons of Abd Manaf, the umayyads come from umayyah ibn abd shams through Muawiyah and his father Abu Sufyan (son of umayyah), by the time of prophet muhammad pbuh the umayyads weren't a clan, but a subclan within Abd Shams, just like there was no Abbasid clan till 8th century and they are a continuation of Hashimid clan

you know Thafer Yousef???? I love the guy's music!! Also one of my favorite pieces for Yanni, I loved the video for the music, but it's safe to say that there are inaccuracies

Hello Grant, do you happen to have a bibliography of sources for this video?

@CasualHistorian

2 жыл бұрын

This video is a supercut of 5 previous videos about Islamic history. Those videos have sources linked in their descriptions.

@BSPoner

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualHistorian Many thanks.

23:22 Muhammad DID NOT give his clan the Bani Hashem the control of Kaaba. In fact after the conquest of Mecca he maintained it under its previous caretaker, the Bani Shaiba. A tradition which still continue until today.

@melvinbrotherofthejoker436

10 ай бұрын

Sunni propaganda

@mooripo

8 ай бұрын

All of this video is full of bullshit lol I stopped it at 28, the moment he said (the temple of Solomon).... How ridiculous.

@mooripo

8 ай бұрын

​@@melvinbrotherofthejoker436yeah we are being paid by the hour, facepalm, you completely ignore islamic history and refuse islamic narrative yet you claim to seek the truth through science, pseudoscience and pseudojournalism.

@shayalynn

4 ай бұрын

Hashem. Isn’t that what the Jews call God? What a coincidence.

Yathrib was not remote unknown city to Him. It was city where His grand mother Salma bint Amr came from. It is said that His grandmother was a noble woman from Annajar Clan (Some says it was Arabian Jewish Tribe and His Grand mother was a Jewish noble lady of this clan).

@user-zl8bm8np3h

Жыл бұрын

غير صحيح ليس له صلة باليهود وهو من افضل الناس نسب صلى الله عليه وسلم

@StanbyMode

8 ай бұрын

@@user-zl8bm8np3hyou realize Jews are from the same lineage anyways?

@StanbyMode

8 ай бұрын

@@user-zl8bm8np3hand whats wrong with him having jewish lineage? That is still much better than his other ancestors being polytheists

13:40 ... wth was that, where did you get that from? Uncle Tom?

Love these videos

Very well put togeather. A lot of effort and due diligence put into this video. Alhamdulillah.

Awesome video. Curious what your thoughts are on Tom Holland’s book on the advent of Islam.

@lost_is_history8224

Жыл бұрын

As a Islamic history student, his book is muddled and not taken seriously

@mattstakeontheancients7594

Жыл бұрын

@@lost_is_history8224 Any Islamic history books you would recommend. Find it to be a very interesting time period and would love to learn more about it.

@Brother_Piner

9 ай бұрын

@@lost_is_history8224Are you a student of Islamic history, or a History Student who is Islamic? Or both?

@dadon3455

4 ай бұрын

@@Brother_Piner”As a Islamic history student” reading comprehension is a must

I'm not Muslim, I'm African based in South Africa. I find it annoying and deceitful that we are constantly bombarded by the Greatness Greek and Roman Empires. But we never hear about the powerful empires of the Arab nations based in Africa and Asia. It's so true that as long as Lions can't talk, the hunters will always be celebrated as heroes.

Who were those Sausagehead peoples you kept mentioning in the beginning of the video? I consider myself quite the history buff but this group has alluded me.

@xp8969

7 ай бұрын

You're not a history buff if you don't know what the Sassanid Empire was, go on though 😂 😂

The man shown reading from a book at 52:00 is presumably Jewish and is reading from the Hebrew text of Psalms, not the Quran.

@fieldmarshal7081

Жыл бұрын

This video is full of bs

Thank you, CH.

Like the video but i can barely hear it. Please turn your audio up.

One question, regarding the city of mecca, how is it possible to have a city in the m8ddle of a dust bowl , with no water , no vegetation, no animals , etc etc etc .

Good video. Just one question. You refer to the people as Turks many times throughout the video. At this time (800-1100), where would the people group known as the Turks be from? Present Kurdistan? Caucus? Present day Turkmenistan?

@bdj_tvk

2 жыл бұрын

I got ya brother! Yes, at this time period the Turkic people's would be inhabiting modern Turkmenistan and the surrounding area within Central/Central-East/Central-South Asia and would make a huge migration to Anatolia, pushing back and taking over the Roman lands.

14:00: your conjecture that there was a ‘rivalry’ of sorts between Muhammad and Uthman rooted in tribalism is totally false. 1 of Prophet Muhammad’s daughters was married to Uthman and when she passed away, another daughter married Uthman. Usually it is the minority (10-15%)of Shias that hold unsavory views of Uthman. Just stating the facts - for the vast majority 85-90% of Muslims Uthman was a very noble companion of the Prophet and the 3rd Caliph after the Prophet Muhammad.

@pq2552

Жыл бұрын

There is a lot of Shia narrative being peddled here. Even though its contested by the majority and was written so far after the actual events and without any evidence that it looses all credibility

@pq2552

Жыл бұрын

The fact that there are so many credible sources of history around, i wonder why he is cherry picking these.

@Quantum-1157

Жыл бұрын

@@pq2552 Shias are 10-15% but non-Islamic sources draw heavily on them for obvious reasons. They know what they are doing and they realize that their agenda is best served by confusing whoever amongst the Muslims they can.

@Ace-313

Жыл бұрын

Prophet Muhammad only had one daughter alive and it was Fatima. Why you guys make up so much horse sh** to male you guys look good to cover up your lies? Uthman lanatullah on him did no such thing. Stop talking blasphemy and respect yourself.

@fieldmarshal7081

Жыл бұрын

@@pq2552 yeah wallahi brothers you figure it out this is just Shia propaganda and some orientalism mixed together to confuse the real muslims

Couple of Yathreb men spoke to Mohammed and liked his massage, became muslim, and agreed to support him. They did not just wanted him to resolve disputes.

At 11 min that backround music is intense man, might wanna tone it down lol

Informative video. Just a suggestion, I think it'd be nice to have dates/timeline along with it.

26:57 you are actually wrong if you look deeper into the history of the Prophet, at one point under a palm tree he calls Ali up and holds his hands in the air saying this person is my successor

@KyleM1220

Жыл бұрын

Shia😂

@TheShiiteVindicator

Жыл бұрын

@@KyleM1220 well done for realising

@highping5137

Жыл бұрын

nope

@TheShiiteVindicator

Жыл бұрын

Hm well we have different beliefs

@Omar-jk8ny

Жыл бұрын

Why did the prophet insist on abu bakr leading the prayer when he was on his death bed?

Lmao 'KZreads algorithm won't be kind to this video!' *hits over a hundred k views one of his best performing videos ever if not THE best* The algorithm is indeed mysterious my friend.

Nice presentation so far, however there are no documents supporting trade through Mecca, or even any maps from that time period mentioning Mecca. Secondly, your destination is the population centers around the Mediterranean, so why would a business person go up through "Arbia" by land which would be more expensive, with less population, than continue by the Red Sea, which had ports along the African coast?

Correction at 47:40. Al saffat absolutely DOES NOT mean BLOOD shedder. It means pure, piety, or rock. As in pure and strong!! How did you confuse it with BLOOD SHEDDER! I smell biased because this word I actually used alot throughout my life, mainly to mean pure and generous. BLOOD SHEDDERS! As if Christians didn’t do EXACTLY the same things everyone else did.

@alansokelisatruehero8520

10 ай бұрын

maybe you were lied to? Most muslims have been told their whole life the Christian bible was corrupted. The dead sea scrolls proved beyond doubt that the books included in the bible are identical to the books discovered and dated to the time of Jesus Christ, the only errors were minor punctuation errors like a period or comma occasionally. it is literal proof, you can say you choose to not believe but you can't say it was corrupted. so you have been lied to. the Christian scripture mohamed had access to is the same we have access to today. sadly, there's no qurans dating back to the time of mohamed and the oldest ones vary drastically between each other. once you.break free of islamic propaganda you could learn something but islam requires censorship, not open dialogue for these very reasons. how can you trust an ideology that needs to kill those who try to leave that ideology? Muslims, how many caliphs were murdered by fellow muslims from it's very inception? how many of the first 6 caliphs peacefully passed on the title to their successor? it's surprising the suspiciously sinful prophet wasn't murdered by his followers himself. My first reading of the quran was to actually defend islam from people saying it was a violent religion, mainly because i had read the rubaiyat of omar khayyam which i respected, but the quran was so SO much worse and with the second reading my impression got even worse. i had to stop on my third to not effect my relationships with hereditary muslims friends. its shocking how many people can read such horrific edicts and say "yep, that's for me". there is a reason it wants and needs it's members to kill apostates, those who learned arabic enough to read the quran or a translation into their native language and discovered what it says, or they read another book that shows one how to have a deep, life changing religious experience with the actual God over all, and islam cannot have pointing out things that are blatantly obvious to non muslims. i pray and hope people break free of their imposed religions, all religions, if one doesn't free themselves form their parents and their cultures religion they have no true faith. you would be a Hindu if born in India, or Atheist if born in a communist country until one breaks free of what happened by the chance of birth. only when you start fresh can one truly find God. before one breaks free you are just blindly pushing the given ideology of that region or family that was pushed onto them, which was pushed onto them, and so on and so on, and you never truly experience God in a meaningful way. Experience the Living and True God is worth sacrificing everything in this world, do not be afraid, be courageous in seeking Him and His Grace.

@mooripo

8 ай бұрын

The whole video is clearly sourced from anti islamic narratives, I quit the moment he claimed the Temple of Soloman is under the mosque, how silly, pseudohistory, what do I expect watching a video's whode owner already mentions that he's only a CASUAL historian.

Serious persecution against Muslim's, that's the reason, The Noble prophet told his companions that abbysinion King was righteous, that's why they chose his Kingdom.

@crows.qwords3665

Жыл бұрын

Quran is copy of bible , muhamad was fake prophet & pagan arab god allah

@salahahmed7379

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@@misteryolo7248 Ibn Ishāq (2004). Sīratu Rasūlillāh (tr. Alfred Guillaume). Oxford University Press. pp. 150-153. M. Elfasi, Ivan Hrbek (1988). Africa from the Seventh to the Eleventh Century. UNESCO. p. 560. Reid, Richard J. (12 January 2012). "The Islamic Frontier in Eastern Africa". A History of Modern Africa: 1800 to the Present. John Wiley and Sons. p. 106. ISBN 0470658983. Retrieved 15 March 2015. Ibn Saʻd, (1993). Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir (S. M. Haq & H. K. Ghazanfar, Trans.). New Delhi: Kitab Bhavan. Account of the First Hijrah of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah To Abyssinia The Sealed Nectar (الرحيق المختوم) "Archived copy". Archived from the original on 2006-11-28. Retrieved 2007-01-13.CS1 maint: Archived copy E. A. Wallis Budge (Aug 1, 2014). A History of Ethiopia: Volume I: Nubia and Abyssinia. Routledge. pp. vii. Martin Lings (2006). Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources. Inner Traditions. pp. 81-84. M. Elfasi, Ivan Hrbek (1988). Africa from the Seventh to the Eleventh Century. UNESCO. p. 560. Bowersock, G.W (Dr). The Throne of Adulis: Red Sea Wars on the Eve of Islam. Oxford University Press, 2013. ISBN 978-0-19-973932-5 Rafiq Zakaria, 1991, Muhammad and The Quran, New Delhi: Penguin Books, pp. 403-4. ISBN 0-14-014423-4 John L. Esposito (ed.) (2003). The Oxford Dictionary of Islam. Oxford University Press. p. 351.CS1 maint: Extra text: authors list (link) Muhammad in History, Thought, and Culture, ABC-CLIO, p. 278 Muhammad ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah. Translated by Guillaume, A. (1955). The Life of Muhammad, pp. 167-169. Oxford: Oxford University Press. Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari, Tarikh al-Rusul wa'l-Muluk vol. 39. Translated by Landau-Tasseron, E. (1998). Biographies of the Prophet's Companions and Their Successors, p. 177. New York: State University of New York Press. John Glubb, The Life and Times of Muhammad, Lanham 1998, p. 304-310.

@manofwar2354

Жыл бұрын

@@misteryolo7248 really ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 It is knowen they were kicked and killed anyway this is one of many sources يقول ابن هشام في السيرة “فلما رأى رسول الله صلى االله عليه وسلم ما يصيب أصحابه من البلاء وما هو فيه من العافية لمكانه من الله، ومن عمه أبي طالب، وأنه لا يقدر على أن يمنعهم مما هم فيه من البلاء. قال لهم:”لو خرجتم إلى أرض الحبشة فإن بها ملكا لا يظلم عنده أحد وهي أرض صدق حتى يجعل الله لكم فرجا مما أنتم فيه

@misteryolo7248

Жыл бұрын

@@manofwar2354 sorry I don't even know how that comment was there, my Bad

@mattjohnson9753

Жыл бұрын

Mohammed was a moral failure. So what if he was persecuted. Jesus was persecuted….and killed….but Jesus forgave them instead of killing them like Mohammed.

I am under the impression Mecca is nowhere near the inland trade route and there are zero contemporary records to say it was. Perhaps you have some such contemporary sources for your assertion?

7.01 in the real reason Yemen had true importance are a few 1 it was the gateway to Africa 2 They hade blacksmiths on a different level especially when it came to shields 3 They have always been a very hospitable state.

Thank you for this interesting overview video. Being from the West, I don't know a great deal about Islamic history, but I'm enjoying trying to learn some basics thanks to channels like this one. Thank you again. Jesus Christ be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)

@infedius7214

10 ай бұрын

amen

@omarshaghlil1699

7 ай бұрын

I'm a Muslim Arab who studied this history very closely, he has major mistakes, and that video isn't fact checked at all

@MaryamofShomal

7 ай бұрын

God bless you 🙏🏽✝️

@teyhacruz1001

4 ай бұрын

​@@omarshaghlil1699 Islamic sources or historical sources?

@saleemrulz

4 ай бұрын

id reccomend you listen to yasir qahdi seerah of the prophet or read martin lings book. This video is filled to the brim with misinformation and reeks of the typical rhetoric of 1970s orientalist viewpoints, which are mostly rejected by mainstream academic historians today.

“Do not allow your heart to take pleasure with the praises of people, nor be saddened by their condemnation.” - Abu Hamid al-Ghazali

@osoprt8729

Жыл бұрын

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Your got your Uthman mixed up. Uthman b Muzun was the one who migrated as you mentioned but was not part of the Ummyad clan. The Uthman that was part of Ummyad clan was Uthman b Affan.

There have to be better quality options for the Arabic names of the people that you included. The text reads left to right and the letters are disconnected.

In general, you are close to being right, but there are details that you undoubtedly made a mistake in, perhaps due to the similarity of names or foreign sources, not Arabic…

It would be much better to refer to the Caliphates as 'Islamic' and not 'Arab.' EDIT: Since there have been quite a few people disagreeing with me about what I said in my original comment, I thought I'd elaborate a bit and explain the reasons behind my claim. During the Umayyad period the head of the state (the Caliph) was obviously an Arab, and the military was almost exclusively comprised of Arabs; but the artisans, the architects, and the administrative body of the caliphate were definitely comprised of non-Arabs (mostly Syrians at the heart of the caliphate, and Persians and Assyrians further east.) During the Abbasid period the role of the Arabs was reduced to a marginal one. The administrative body was overwhelmingly Persian. Almost all the viziers that served the Abbasid caliphs were of Persian background, and as you may know, most political and administrative decisions were made by the vizier and not the caliph. The legendary capital city of the Abbasid caliphate-Baghdad, which means 'God-given' in Persian-was built by two Persian architects. The scientific, literary, scholarly, and artistic scenery of Abbasid society-especially but not only in the east and the 'heartlands'-was overrun by Persians; although other minorites also played an important role, namely Jews and Assyrians. Regarding the Abbasid military, it was initially run by and extremely reliant on Persians, since Persians were the main backers of the Abbasid Revolution. As the Abbasids strengthened their hold onto power they sought to distance themselves from the Persians and reduce their reliance on them; so they replaced a large number of Persians in their military with Arabs (even going as far as executing some of their high ranking Persian military personnel). Later on Turks came along and now they were the main players in Abbasid military. So as you can see, the two big caliphates in Islamic history can't really be considered 'Arab.'

@hmmm3210

Жыл бұрын

I think he's trying to differentiate them from the ottomans and almohads who were non Arab ruled .

@alinoor6515

Жыл бұрын

Hashimites were strong

@user-fg3gl6hf6h

Жыл бұрын

Why not?

@luffyh7193

Жыл бұрын

@@user-fg3gl6hf6h because Persians and many more were a big part of the empire, and the rasuul said we are all Muslims we don’t go by race and there’s no difference between us

@najabs123

Жыл бұрын

They were arab tho.....

Very beautiful channel, thank you for this informative video

@ibatan7243

Жыл бұрын

Video proving that ‘Fatiha’ copied from Assyriac prayer: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6emlcaOpritprg.html

Great info

Nothing about Alandalus caliphate?

@user-hj4ym7ug3h

2 жыл бұрын

He's talking about the Arabian caliphates

@RedRose-cn8ln

2 жыл бұрын

Arab ruled Alandalus during the Umayyad

Thanks for putting the time and effort into telling as much all sides as possible, Most of Arab or Muslims wouldn't know that much. Thanks again

You are a bit basied and doesn't give full picture in terms of first 80 years. Also you didn't mention Arius and Athanasius thing in Christianity.

I did not expect the Abssassid Inquisition. :D

It’s kind of strange that they didn’t follow the direct descendants of their prophet.

@asmrnaturecat984

2 жыл бұрын

prophet or messenger of God is not a king, he even sternly told to the public that if fathimah( his most beloved daughter) steal, even she cannot escape punishment* *cut off the hand if the stealer is capable to work for money and if the amount stolen is more than 1/4 dinar

@asmrnaturecat984

2 жыл бұрын

added to that, his descendants themselves don't like to be in power the more fanatics groups are their extreme admirers, some love them, but some just use their(prophet's family) for political gain

@oceanmachine1906

2 жыл бұрын

Well the Shi'ites did.

@hmmm3210

Жыл бұрын

Why should they? There's no guarantee that one of certain lineage is inherently the best for governance, and they didn't believe them to be infallible like the Shi'as made up and claimed to believe.

History of religion is so interesting. It's usually about the power and ambition of men, and has very little to do with God.

@alansokelisatruehero8520

10 ай бұрын

it's interesting when Jesus Christ was fasting the devil took him to a mountiain and said look out, i will give you all these kingdoms if you worship me, He refused. It seems like Mohamed was taken to the same mountain was was like "yep, lets start killing, i want my empire". no wonder islam is desperate to say the bible was corrupted since it makes them look very bad. the dead sea scrolls prove the accuracy of the bible, you can choose to believe or not, but we can't say what is in the Christian Bible is not copied accurately all the way back to the time of Christ.

Othman went to Ethiopia with other Muslim to avoid persecution by the order of Mohamed peace be upon him there was no rivalry between them

You make the best content and documentaries

@ibatan7243

Жыл бұрын

Video proving that ‘Fatiha’ copied from Assyriac prayer: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6emlcaOpritprg.html

1. Banu Hashim, the tribe that Muhammad descends from, wasn't a lesser clan, it was among the most well known clans for their honesty in business and their lineage that goes back to the.patriarch prophet Ishmael. When Muhammad's Arab enemies were asked by King Heraclius whether Muhammad descended from a good enough nobility to even claim prophethood, the Arabs confessed that Banu Hashim was a noble family. 2. Muhammad's beloved companion Uthman did not go to Ethiopia because he was a rival of Muhammad, who saw his Ummayad tribe as being better than Banu Hashim (why even allege that?). It is quite known to historians that many of the elderly, women and young Muslims had to seek asylum in Ethiopia at that time and that the Axum King Najashi himself gave shelter to them because they were being persecuted in Mecca. 3. @21:36 Did Muhammad end up being the last most successful prophet with a world fellowship of over 1 billion adherants worldwide? Name another person since his birth who has managed a prophethood that is as well known and relevant in today's discourses? 4. Whatever infighting that many westerners think existed between the family of Aisha and the family of Ali was non-existent when Aisha's assembled army met the assembled army of Ali to join forces against the army of Muawiya, when it was Ali's turn to be the Caliph, because they are both considered 'Ahl El Beit' members of the family, of the same house. The problem was that there were Khawarij installed in both armies and they're the ones who wanted to raise tensions and sow dishonor in the ranks after the death of Uthman. Ali was 4th in line after the prophet Muhammad pbuh and he wouldnt have humbly accepted each time, first with Abu Bakr, and then 2nd to Omar, 3rd to Uthman, if he didn't respect and love those companions, who he had been in many battles with him side by side. Some of them becoming relatives to Ali through their intermarriages with the Prophet's daughters.

@xa_ji0745

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for correcting him. His Uthman comments on rivalry sounded so wrong.

@shayalynn

4 ай бұрын

How many converted out of fear and lack of options?

@Escaping2030

3 ай бұрын

@@shayalynn How many convert till this day because they love the history and impact of Prophet Muhammad's life? May peace be forever upon him. No other figure in history has been as successful with their message being as widespread as Muhammad. Fear of a person doesn't last beyond that person's lifetime, the same way love of that person does.

He is the clear reason why ulema says to not take ilm from kuffar. I'm amazed how many lies and shubuhat he is spreading.

dude, when you mention a version of history ,please provide the source. the attack of Fathi ah Ra by Omar is only recognised by extreme syiih.

14:13 The ones who stayed in Mecca were in for more hard times" isn't it easier to accept some moved to Ethiopia due to the hard times and not because of sectarianism?

I think there's confusion here, christianity was mostly spread by roman decree rather than organically.

History would 100% different if the Sassanian emperor accepted peace treaty, No Shia, No central Asian wars, No secret cults and most likely Constantinople and Rome would be conquered, if only that happened but it was destined by god

@hmmm3210

Жыл бұрын

Tbf the standard narrative is that crypto Jews who converted for social mobility and were resentful of the Arab conquests helped start Shi'a beliefs of the family being the rightful rulers and borderline demigods .

@manofwar2354

Жыл бұрын

Persian werent shia anyway so u are wronh

The only problem with the prophets “Sera” “early history” is that all sources came from Ibn Hisham where which he took it from Ibn Ishaaq “the earliest history written” whom grandfather where a jew and incorporated many Israelite’s and Ibn ishaaq where seen from many scholars as a lier most prominent from among Imam Malik.

Thanks!

Last one i swear...the part about the rivalry between Aisha and Ali... as for the Incident of Omars attack on Fatimahs House that is also in Sunni sources but very rare yet strongly chained narrations...so overall..spot on

@hmmm3210

Жыл бұрын

Not true lmaoooo. Atleast you admit that shiiiit sources are so bs you can only hope to convince others of something by point to Sunni sources .🤭

@Quantum-1157

Жыл бұрын

O you are just lying. Shias have a concept of ‘taqiyah’ - lying.

@gromenteal2133

Жыл бұрын

There is no where in Sunni source that mention this incident. I challenge you to bring one.

@williamrobert9898

Жыл бұрын

@@gromenteal2133 Damn bro and the dude didn't respond to you

@yaqubshamyl1427

Жыл бұрын

@@gromenteal2133 read Al tabari

Why is a ton of the Arabic script backwards?

That's very interesting that Abu Bakr's clan disowned Muhammad's clan. I wonder if that contributed to the reasonings when the split between Sunni and Shia occurred. Question: Are these two separate Abu Bakrs?

They call it arab caliphate becous they dont like to hear Islamic caliphates 🤣🤣

@hmmm3210

Жыл бұрын

Tbh I think he's differentiating them from other claimed caliphates since the almohads and Ottomans were non Arab.

@abdiasisali

Жыл бұрын

@@hmmm3210 Hello how are you. I understand you but in our religion in Islam their is nothing called Arab caliphate or Turkish caliphate. I dont know if you are Muslim but our religion learn us Islamic Caliphates thats our religion we dont care about if the Muslim leader(Caliphate) is arab our not as long he follow Quran and sunnah. I know as Muslim this youtube channel owner dont want say Islamic Caliphates thats why they chose to say arab Caliphates🤣. Our dear Prophet peace be upon him teached us that we Muslims are brothers and arab is not better than none arab and so on. Alhamdulilah for Islam and the Muslim Caliphates will come Insha Allah soon our later thats is in our Islamic teaching. We Muslims take our evidence frome Quran and Sunnah the teachings off our beloved Prophet peace be upon him. Media is devil like this youtube channel owner who change the name off Islamic Caliphates to Arab caliphates 🤣 This youtube owner calls for race, color and we call for Islam that is the difference. Thank you for your response I see you as Respectful person although I dont know your religion. Alhamdulilah we are Muslims. Peace.

VERY VERY VERY disappointing video. A lot of false informations, inaccurate and most of the informations took from Shia and some other unreliable sources. I mean if you CAN’T do a fair research and get informations from reliable sources why even try to make such video.

@kodeshministry4612

Жыл бұрын

translation "This doesn't agree with MY views on islam" lmao islam is truly a pure bastardization of JudeoChristian narratives just surrounding the self important arabs. Arabs are gentiles and therefore covered under the new covenant of Christ. Having a separate religion created to enrich muhammad politically, militarily and wealth wise is just a nice cover story to detract from the clear divide and conquer bloodshed he engaged in. lmao arabs

I kept having a panic that there is going to be a test on this after!

14:00 uthman didn’t left bcoz of “tensions with prophet Muhammad ﷺ “ but bcoz of makkan pagans persecution on muslims.

your explanation of umar's story of conversion to islam is pathetic sorry to say but i've never heard anyone explain it so wrongly and badly his conversion to islam wasn't a small matter the way to treated it, should've given more details

There are numerous historical and factual mistakes as well as clear biased personal opinions in the video but nonetheless, the time and effort that went into it are much appreciated. I would suggest that more research is done in the future to avoid such mistakes and to leave ones biases and personal opinions out of any future projects because it will only have negative effects on these projects.

How the heck do you remember all of those details 😅

This lack of trust between the Byzentine and Arab Christian reminds me of dialog between Omar Al Khattab and Ghassanid trader, Omar accosting him of their inferior position despite sharing religion.

8:08 it wasn’t called Ethiopia back then. It was Abbysinia. Great job by the way…

Just to clear please get your sources right firstly. Take it as a request There has been no tension between hazrat Ali, prophets wife Aisha (RA), Hazrat abu bakr and hazrat Umar. And Hazrat Fatima was not pregnant as you stated at (25:42). Hazrat ali named some of his sons after hazrat Umar and Hazrat Abu bakr. The daughter of Hazrat Ali and Hazrat Fatima “um kuthum bint ali” was even married to Hazrat Umar. There was just a small misunderstanding that happened between Hazrat Aisha and Hazrat Ali when Hazrat usman was martyred and Hazrat Ayesha was asking for revenge but Hazrat Ali wanted to stop all the fighting within the Muslims that where happening because of the khawarij.

Dude the ads on this video are wild lmao. I got a Muslim 'prosperity doctrine' ad, a school that 'properly' teaches Judaism and another AD that promises to help incels get laid and I'm only like ten minutes in.

I watched about 25 minutes of the video and there were quite a few things that you misunderstood. It would've been good to do research on what Islam says about these things. 1) Aisha (RA) and Ali (RA) never had any hatred for each other. In fact (Chapter 24 verses 11 to 18) are the verses that were revealed to clear Aisha (RA). There was never any issue between them. In fact, there is a narration that the Prophet (SAW) said to Ali (RA) that there will be a problem between you and Aisha. Ali was shocked and he said "Then I must have a really horrible end" and the prophet (SAW) told him "no, but if it does happen then return her to the safety of her home". This is why later on, when the Muslims were fighting and Aisha and Ali were on opposite sides, Ali sent a group of his people to protect Aisha and take her back home safely. 2) The reason why Quraish never wanted Islam to prevail is because they could never understand the catch to it. Most of the time when someone called others to something, it was so they could become rich or become a leader but the prophet (SAW) was calling people to worship their lord and be kind to others, he was teaching them to have good character. 3) The prophet (SAW) was teaching Islam to close family and friends for a while before a chapter in the Quran was revealed to him to spread Islam in public: (Chapter 74) 4) Abu Bakr (RA) became the leader of the Muslims after prophet Muhammad (SAW) passed away. This is because when the Prophet (SAW) was sick and couldn't lead one of the prayers, Abu Bakr was the one that was asked to lead. The companions of the Prophet (SAW) said "if Abu Bakr was allowed to lead the prayer while the prophet (SAW) was alive, then he should be the one that leads us after the prophet (SAW) passed away. 5) The Muslims migrated to Abyssinia because they were being oppressed in Mecca. The prophet (SAW) told them to go there because there was a king who was a just leader who might have let them live there peacefully. It was nothing to do with spreading Islam there or trade relations. In fact, they spoke with each other about the story of Prophet eesa (AS), what the Christians believed about him and what the Muslims believed. I think , eventually, the king of Abyssinia became a Muslim I believe. 6) No one claimed to be the final prophet before this, that's why in Islam, the first pillar in Islam is to testify that Allah is the only god and that Muhammad is the last messenger.

bro you lck research and proper understanding and details for example you said it's not sure why some early muslims migrated to ethiopia well it's a commonly know fact that they did this on the instructions of muhammad (saww) he said there's a just king in abyssinia that's why they emigrated there

@craigrafla336

10 ай бұрын

We’re dealing with fact here, not made up religious fantasy.