THE ANTI-LORAX CONSPIRACY

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The Lorax is an interesting movie because it has many secret little hidden details. In the past, I had a "conspiracy theory" that the Once-Ler was Ted’s Grandfather because of these clues. Today, I present my ultimate findings in an even bigger theory. I know O’Hare’s backstory, I know the Lorax’s TRUE agenda, I know where Grammy Norma is in the flashbacks, and yes… I finally know who Ted’s FATHER is.
I’ve edited this one to the hilt. It’s fast-paced and unreal, so there are chapters below. Enjoy.
#TheLorax #LoraxTheory #TheLoraxTheory #LoraxConspiracy #Theory
VIDEO CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Everything This Solves
1:43 - Grammy Norma in the Flashbacks
3:50 - O’Hare is Ted’s Dad
12:23 - The Anti-Lorax Agenda
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Music is from Epidemic Sound and the KZread Audio Library. I do not own The Lorax, but am allowed to use footage of it and have full rights to this video under fair use law. Images mostly from Google.

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  • @arifhossain9751
    @arifhossain975123 күн бұрын

    They tried to copyright this. It's canon.

  • @compassrose1466

    @compassrose1466

    22 күн бұрын

    The minions shaking in their coveralls 😧

  • @trixxart777

    @trixxart777

    22 күн бұрын

    Dam comcast

  • @GoonLune

    @GoonLune

    22 күн бұрын

    It could just be bc there's footage of the movie

  • @jayjayare

    @jayjayare

    22 күн бұрын

    @@GoonLune you must be fun at parties

  • @NoNameJester

    @NoNameJester

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@jayjayarehe probably doesn't get invited to em

  • @abbythehuman8213
    @abbythehuman821323 күн бұрын

    The Theorizer could convince me of anything at this point.

  • @Youtubewatcher12345th

    @Youtubewatcher12345th

    23 күн бұрын

    Hey it’s the theorizers alt account here mort will make you immortal if you give me 400000000 dollars

  • @thatdumbass9856

    @thatdumbass9856

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@KZreadwatcher12345th what's a nickel get me?

  • @CaramelCorige

    @CaramelCorige

    22 күн бұрын

    Lol

  • @RiskofTrains

    @RiskofTrains

    22 күн бұрын

    Hey it’s the theorizers alt wire me 200000 dollars stuck in Nigeria

  • @simoboi695

    @simoboi695

    22 күн бұрын

    he could convince me white is actually black at this point tbh

  • @debater452
    @debater45223 күн бұрын

    Lorax was so anti trees he gave his aproval to multiple enviromentally harming products in the Lorax marketing campaing

  • @TheTheorizer

    @TheTheorizer

    23 күн бұрын

    Exactly

  • @Slapbattler666

    @Slapbattler666

    22 күн бұрын

    Nice observation

  • @wind_king-lh8zs

    @wind_king-lh8zs

    22 күн бұрын

    @@TheTheorizer that made me SOL

  • @hitchhikerwithtowel2721

    @hitchhikerwithtowel2721

    20 күн бұрын

    @@wind_king-lh8zs shit outta luck?

  • @wind_king-lh8zs

    @wind_king-lh8zs

    20 күн бұрын

    @@hitchhikerwithtowel2721 that almost made me SOL BTW it stands for ¨snicker out loud¨ not laugh but snicker

  • @CeaselessEntertainment8468
    @CeaselessEntertainment846823 күн бұрын

    Lorax: I am the Lorax! i hate speaking for these trees, Please chop them down before I indulge in stress eating cheese

  • @Sheenesteves-gr7lk

    @Sheenesteves-gr7lk

    23 күн бұрын

    me core

  • @dwightdeisenhower53

    @dwightdeisenhower53

    22 күн бұрын

    Reminds me of a little thing I said when some guy said "Dot on the Spot" and I thought it sounded like the Cat in the Hat going to the dermatologist: Cat in The Hat, I'll keep this secret, just within these walls, But your zits are so plentiful, they go down to your b-

  • @user-that-buggs.

    @user-that-buggs.

    22 күн бұрын

    @@Sheenesteves-gr7lk me core

  • @billybobjoe-gv7jx

    @billybobjoe-gv7jx

    22 күн бұрын

    🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌 CHEEZ

  • @alexv3372

    @alexv3372

    22 күн бұрын

    I am the Lorax I speak for my knees

  • @L.U.C.I.F.E.R-
    @L.U.C.I.F.E.R-23 күн бұрын

    If The Lorax is anti-Trees does this open the possibility to Willy Wonka secretly hating chocolate and candy?

  • @ked49

    @ked49

    23 күн бұрын

    He is, he makes dangerous candies to get people to not buy products from him or his competitors who he killed.

  • @Stryker-bp1tw

    @Stryker-bp1tw

    22 күн бұрын

    Yes

  • @Lutefisk445

    @Lutefisk445

    22 күн бұрын

    The Lorax isn't anti-tree. There was just nothing left for him to do but let the people find out for themselves what happens when you chop down all the trees.

  • @jesterdays

    @jesterdays

    22 күн бұрын

    That's why he ruined the lives of those children

  • @legendofrayquazagaming5125

    @legendofrayquazagaming5125

    22 күн бұрын

    Not really

  • @TheWaffleEdits
    @TheWaffleEdits23 күн бұрын

    The Theorizer is what MatPat would’ve become if he continued to do FNAF theories and truly went insane Thing is, The Theorizer makes it make sense and true, which is horrifying

  • @jang-xo6ye

    @jang-xo6ye

    22 күн бұрын

    No the therorizer is the version of matpat that manages to actually convince people he's insane. I'm still not fully convinced... mostly because he makes sense... most of the time

  • @Slapbattler666

    @Slapbattler666

    22 күн бұрын

    @@jang-xo6ye i think its not insanity, but just seeing the truth about everything .

  • @myyoutubeaccountgotsuspend8666

    @myyoutubeaccountgotsuspend8666

    21 күн бұрын

    The Theorizer is the ascended MatPat from the distant future

  • @Slapbattler666

    @Slapbattler666

    21 күн бұрын

    #reallifetheory

  • @gabriellockwood2780

    @gabriellockwood2780

    15 күн бұрын

    Matpat’s theories are awful-AND mostly wrong. If you knew ANYTHING about FNaF, you’d KNOW MatPat went off the rails after Scott said he was right-ONCE with MatPat’s FNaF 2 theory back in 2014~15. 🤦‍♂️

  • @Lutefisk445
    @Lutefisk44522 күн бұрын

    I'm starting to think yall missed the message of "fuck around and find out" that the lorax was actually trying to give. He's not the villain, just out of options

  • @YellowScar2014

    @YellowScar2014

    22 күн бұрын

    Exactly what I was thinking. Edit; And funny enough, it reminds me of the Old Testament's basic plot. God tells humanity not to do something, they do it anyways... and instead of stopping them, God just lets humanity "fuck around and find out" time and time again... with some ultimate salvation promised in the end, of course.

  • @snintendog

    @snintendog

    21 күн бұрын

    UNLESS The Lorax is the Oncellers Father as well. A cursed Family Tree DOOMED to repeat the same mistakes over and over. This makes the Lorax a True Evil.

  • @Lutefisk445

    @Lutefisk445

    21 күн бұрын

    @@snintendog except the Lorax and the Onceler's father are not the same. I mean it would be funny if that were the case, but I don't think it is so

  • @toolittletoolate

    @toolittletoolate

    19 күн бұрын

    It's called Tough Love. This is what it actually looks like. No one involved are happy and it sucks for everyone but it's how you learn the important lessons so you don't do it again.

  • @gracekim25

    @gracekim25

    19 күн бұрын

    Guys…you’re not meant to take theories too seriously as it’s just for fun 😅 you’re probably right but there’s no need to be so smug and unfun about it😬

  • @elliot-sowdon
    @elliot-sowdon23 күн бұрын

    Ted’s mom calling herself Mrs Wiggins despite having no husband would seem to imply she’s a widow. It’s possible that she divorced O’Hare, remarried and then her second husband died, all while Ted was very young. If Bernice suspects O’Hare had her second husband killed, then her fear of him makes a lot of sense. It would also make sense why she doesn’t seem to have any interest in finding a partner during the film. Husband #2 may have spoken out against O’Hare, or simply made him jealous, but either way he’s gone and no one is eager to bring him up.

  • @TheTheorizer

    @TheTheorizer

    23 күн бұрын

    I would assume, but it’s confusing why she kept her maiden name if she still wants to honour a dead husband with the “Mrs” title and we see no sign of an honoured husband

  • @elliot-sowdon

    @elliot-sowdon

    22 күн бұрын

    @@TheTheorizer Maybe he took her name? Or she didn’t want to change her name after changing it to O’Hare and then right back to Wiggins It’s also possible the norms of martial name changing are different in world of the movie, as all of the Onceler’s family members are also Oncelers regardless of gender. The lack of pictures of the late husband could also be to avoid Ted asking questions about him and finding out the truth.

  • @wind_king-lh8zs

    @wind_king-lh8zs

    22 күн бұрын

    @@TheTheorizer i assumed he lived far away (i assume there are more trees just not truffula trees elsewhere) and wouldn't let her divorce him but she wasn't to mad about it as he still liked disco.(i have no idea how devorce works)

  • @debater452
    @debater45223 күн бұрын

    So Ted's father in a way is a tree just like we joked in an earlier community post

  • @gonhunter3994

    @gonhunter3994

    23 күн бұрын

    No, Ted's dad is O'Hare, that got his idea & also possibly a way to produce air thx to the Lorax

  • @debater452

    @debater452

    22 күн бұрын

    @@gonhunter3994 Lorax is O'hair

  • @olasdorosdiliusimilius2174

    @olasdorosdiliusimilius2174

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@debater452 O'Hare is actually Jesus and The Lorax is the father and holy spirit.

  • @wind_king-lh8zs

    @wind_king-lh8zs

    22 күн бұрын

    @@olasdorosdiliusimilius2174 so O´Hare is f-Fully human even subject to *bites lip* human desires?

  • @hauntedhoody2976

    @hauntedhoody2976

    22 күн бұрын

    @@wind_king-lh8zsmy man thats the subject of several heresies, watch your steps

  • @IcyDiamond
    @IcyDiamond23 күн бұрын

    I feel like I’m watching something the government doesn’t want me to whenever I watch these videos

  • @nightwatch3889

    @nightwatch3889

    22 күн бұрын

    That is the PERFECT way to describe the sheer madness of The Theorizer

  • @alexv3372

    @alexv3372

    22 күн бұрын

    Like a secret society channel

  • @alexv3372

    @alexv3372

    22 күн бұрын

    Hell yeah Theorizer secret fan club High five 🖐️

  • @IcyDiamond
    @IcyDiamond23 күн бұрын

    To add to your theory, it now makes sense why the Once-Ler can live in his big house outside of town while still surviving, O’Hare’s been secretly supplying him air, it also explained why The Once-Ler didn’t just immediately plant the seed, because he had been working with O’Hare, he also probably wasn’t allowed back in town and he couldn’t have planted the seed where he lives, it also makes the Oncer-Ler look less stupid because no matter what, the trees would’ve died, The Lorax was controlling him the whole time, it also explained how no one died due to lack of air, if everyone was dead there’d be no lesson to teach, The Lorax made sure to keep them all alive It’s incredible how this theory explains basically every plot hole in the movie

  • @the_expidition427

    @the_expidition427

    22 күн бұрын

    The Lorax is the villan

  • @Sharkgobrrrr

    @Sharkgobrrrr

    22 күн бұрын

    Something I'm wondering: Could Thneedville be related to the town from the Cat in the Hat? Both are absurd, contain question logic and house design, among other things.

  • @YellowScar2014

    @YellowScar2014

    22 күн бұрын

    @@the_expidition427 Is he though? If he simply fixed up the forest, the people in the story would've learned nothing and get reduced to square one... but the route he instead took in the movie, according to the video, directly led to not only the forest getting restored eventually but the people *learning* not to destroy it. I mean, sometimes it's better to let an idiot learn the hard way via malicious compliance then to fix their mistake for them and let it repeat, after all.

  • @GideonHannsz-ht3qm

    @GideonHannsz-ht3qm

    22 күн бұрын

    @@Sharkgobrrrr you know the story of horton hears a who and the grinch where they all live on different specs? I bet all of the doctor suess stories take place on some spec multiverse of something along those lines

  • @deleetiusproductions3497

    @deleetiusproductions3497

    15 күн бұрын

    wow

  • @kingjj5827
    @kingjj582723 күн бұрын

    If the Lorax is a 385000000 year old being that regulates a universe, he may be a different breed of Katie. All Dr. Seuss creatures could be different species of Katie.

  • @elliot-sowdon

    @elliot-sowdon

    22 күн бұрын

    The Truffula trees do look very similar to Katie’s flowers….

  • @potato7ate913

    @potato7ate913

    22 күн бұрын

    I think the 385 million years ago thing was a reference to the Carboniferous era which is when trees became widespread on Earth. The Lorax is as old as the trees themselves.

  • @deylanthegreat779

    @deylanthegreat779

    22 күн бұрын

    What is this Katie?

  • @hewziey1869

    @hewziey1869

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@deylanthegreat779kzread.info/dash/bejne/oqF-0M-PdtK_Z5c.htmlsi=CN-RfT3uArI8IcFZ

  • @Slapbattler666

    @Slapbattler666

    22 күн бұрын

    Who is katie?

  • @nulllex0099
    @nulllex009923 күн бұрын

    I think the most hilarious part of this all to me is that the writers might have really added some nasty divorce subtext without much thought, but the insane way you connect everything to craft a narrative that explodes in the wildest ways. Thank goodness you dedicate this power to make fictional entertainment based on fiction already. I dread to think what harm you could cause with real conspiracies XD

  • @chasethemaster3440

    @chasethemaster3440

    22 күн бұрын

    Hahahahaha I now want to see him theorize about irl stuff

  • @normanclatcher

    @normanclatcher

    21 күн бұрын

    Ooh. Clintons.

  • @elitusdelitus1509

    @elitusdelitus1509

    20 күн бұрын

    Or JFK, actually I don’t want him assassinated

  • @JaredittonGaming
    @JaredittonGaming23 күн бұрын

    Universal copyrighted the original video, this making EVERYTHING in this video CANON

  • @TH353US
    @TH353US23 күн бұрын

    The Lorax let it happen. The Lorax let it grow. The song isn't talking about the tree, it's talking about the lesson that needed to be learned. Let the lesson grow.

  • @HamSandwich822
    @HamSandwich82223 күн бұрын

    HONEY WAKE UP THEORIZER UPLOADED

  • @theemeraldking3251

    @theemeraldking3251

    23 күн бұрын

    But...sweetie..I worked a 14 hour shift last night at the hospital....

  • @josilyn5419

    @josilyn5419

    23 күн бұрын

    i am awake.

  • @oldNreliable

    @oldNreliable

    23 күн бұрын

    @@theemeraldking3251 DID I STUTTTTTTER

  • @Str4ng3musik

    @Str4ng3musik

    23 күн бұрын

    HE DID

  • @skittlebunny7654

    @skittlebunny7654

    22 күн бұрын

    WAKE THEORIZER HONEY UPLOADED UP

  • @diminie_chimket
    @diminie_chimket22 күн бұрын

    The fact that this video was copyright striked by the company, most likely attempting to _silence_ him, says much more about its canonicity 👀

  • @nightwatch3889
    @nightwatch388922 күн бұрын

    I seriously cannot believe that all these years later you are still uncovering mind-boggling reality-shifting hidden truths behind the freaking animated Lorax movie from 2012

  • @swausgebouwen143

    @swausgebouwen143

    22 күн бұрын

    Can't believe it was released as early as 2012 it feels more like a 2016 film to me

  • @alexv3372

    @alexv3372

    22 күн бұрын

    I know it’s pretty crazy You know if they added the divorce subtext it would make it more interesting

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon23 күн бұрын

    1:42 this little furry critter looks too clean for a nature spirit, the fur doesn’t shag or bear moss, there are no antlers or horns resembling branches or photosynthesizing stems, there are no sharp claws, scent gland holes, or any other grotesque feature, no uncomfortably familiar looking humanoid face, no nothing to make him embody the everything that is life! Too clean too trimmed like an oak at the park or a palm by the roadside in a big dull city! He shoulda been a muntjac fellow!

  • @Slapbattler666

    @Slapbattler666

    22 күн бұрын

    Goooooood noice

  • @Slapbattler666

    @Slapbattler666

    22 күн бұрын

    Great observation

  • @kelsey2333

    @kelsey2333

    18 күн бұрын

    Did you come up with that depiction of the spirit of the forest from the movie Princess Mononoke by studio ghibli

  • @senatorarmstrong1233
    @senatorarmstrong123323 күн бұрын

    Theorizer is like the real life version of “The Question” from DC.

  • @neonjoker

    @neonjoker

    22 күн бұрын

    Reminds me of the line "Who punched you?, Answer THE QUESTION" -The Question

  • @debater452
    @debater45222 күн бұрын

    Perhaps the reason why O'hair didn't kill Ted when he was brought to him was because Ted is his kid

  • @thecarnew5334
    @thecarnew533423 күн бұрын

    He did a poll on this a month ago on what is the best, but he chose all of them. What a good man.

  • @WandaMaximoff1998

    @WandaMaximoff1998

    20 күн бұрын

    Poll 😊

  • @itsxora3207

    @itsxora3207

    18 күн бұрын

    THEY WERE ALL SO GOOD

  • @t.z2359
    @t.z235922 күн бұрын

    Quote on the back of the Lorax "This film is about Heritage, Nature, and Lessons to Humanity. Its about growing Prosperity for the next generation and undoing the sins of ones ancestors." The Theorizer

  • @AwesomeGuy123
    @AwesomeGuy12323 күн бұрын

    Can’t believe you would change the thumbnail from Daddy O’Hare to the Lorax.

  • @Slink04
    @Slink0423 күн бұрын

    “Honey wake up, The Theorizer posted a new video!”

  • @6Shots_ofEspresso
    @6Shots_ofEspresso23 күн бұрын

    BABE WAKE UP NEW THEORIZER VIDEO

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon23 күн бұрын

    I want someone to make a princess mononoke crossover just to make the deer spirit judge the Lorax & rid of him. Something or someone to be “nature finding a way” incarnate.

  • @alexv3372

    @alexv3372

    22 күн бұрын

    That would be so cool!

  • @themoocow7718

    @themoocow7718

    22 күн бұрын

    Love that movie.

  • @JamboreeBlackberry
    @JamboreeBlackberry23 күн бұрын

    Hope you are safe far from the CIA, we thank you for exposing the truth.

  • @mintyflow3796
    @mintyflow379623 күн бұрын

    You always make feel me like psychopath because your videos are that good and mind blowing

  • @_sarq
    @_sarq22 күн бұрын

    A friendgroup of mine has this really elaborate injoke comparing The Lorax to that of the story of the garden of eden, was pleasantly surprised to see this theory really nicely complement that. EDIT: OKAY, seeing other people share this exact sentiment was eye-opening and it made me want to directly state what brought about biblical lorax becoming an injoke, that being a specific part in Biggering, where the Lorax states that the Onceler’s real problem isn’t greed, but *pride*. “But you know, you really can't blame greed No, that's stupid You see, it's gotta worm inside Oh yeah, that's right It's one that always needs to feed and it is never satisfied You get it? But the more you try to find it The more it likes to hide Now listen, that is a nasty, little worm And I like to call it pride” the personification of pride as a small, legless, crawling animal set off a lightbulb and the next thing we knew we were jokingly talking about how this was an elaborate metaphor for the snake in the garden of eden. This is an incredibly loose point made mostly in jest but the thought of this stupid injoke actually being mentioned in a theorizer video was enough of a motivator for me to type this all up.

  • @Chuycabra
    @Chuycabra22 күн бұрын

    Honestly, the distortion to circumvent the copyright kinda fits your vibe!

  • @TheTheorizer

    @TheTheorizer

    22 күн бұрын

    It’s what I’ve done in the past, sometimes overkill lol

  • @Rey_Palpatine
    @Rey_Palpatine22 күн бұрын

    I love these kinds of theories where it all turns out to be a messed up family story, with the character all being connected in some way. And it makes too much sense, too

  • @Batwithhumanteeth
    @Batwithhumanteeth22 күн бұрын

    I can't help but feel you're 5’6 with the way you called Ohare a short king

  • @TheTheorizer

    @TheTheorizer

    22 күн бұрын

    He is a king, bloody legend, and I’m a 6’2 degenerate

  • @nickronca1562

    @nickronca1562

    21 күн бұрын

    @@TheTheorizer Wow, you're taller than my dad even though you're only 7 months older than me

  • @deleetiusproductions3497

    @deleetiusproductions3497

    21 күн бұрын

    @@TheTheorizer Huh, you're a similar height to me.

  • @AchyParts

    @AchyParts

    20 күн бұрын

    @@TheTheorizer That sounds exactly like something a 5'6'' person would say

  • @kanesmith8271

    @kanesmith8271

    20 күн бұрын

    You got mogged hard 😂

  • @Str4ng3musik
    @Str4ng3musik23 күн бұрын

    I am ALWAYS willing to drop everything when a new theorizer vid is up.

  • @sugarandroses7691
    @sugarandroses769122 күн бұрын

    See I really was wondering the whole movie why the onceler never just planted the seed, I mean I know it's supposed to be that the soil was ruined, but that can't be true do to the onceler still being able to be alive and BREATHING! The whole movie was full of these hidden details just WAITING for someone like you (The Theorizer) to retell this story in the true, yet dark way. It's always a good day when you upload!

  • @Insert6character4name.
    @Insert6character4name.23 күн бұрын

    THIS is what I've been waiting for! Ever since I saw the community post teasing this I've been eagerly waiting for it.

  • @pela10
    @pela1017 күн бұрын

    7:35 in spanish mr o’hare says to ted’s mom to go back to the kitchen so it is even more personal

  • @TheTheorizer

    @TheTheorizer

    17 күн бұрын

    That’s what I thought he said in English, I had to correct it later lol

  • @Trainman-fx9oe
    @Trainman-fx9oe23 күн бұрын

    Has anyone else came to the terrifying realisation that the trees in The Lorax are the clovers in Horton Hears a Who?(Katie part 4)

  • @user-ii8gr4fp3p

    @user-ii8gr4fp3p

    22 күн бұрын

    He talked about that in a previous vids.

  • @Trainman-fx9oe

    @Trainman-fx9oe

    22 күн бұрын

    Which one?

  • @user-ii8gr4fp3p

    @user-ii8gr4fp3p

    22 күн бұрын

    @@Trainman-fx9oe probably in ones about Katie.

  • @pageturner2958
    @pageturner295822 күн бұрын

    You have a voice that makes me afraid of the stair monster again I am not complaining

  • @TheTheorizer

    @TheTheorizer

    22 күн бұрын

    The what

  • @bugvideos2030

    @bugvideos2030

    15 күн бұрын

    The what

  • @pedrourbano501
    @pedrourbano50122 күн бұрын

    Maybe O'Hare was influenced by the Lorax in some way, like, maybe the Lorax disguised himself as a human or hell even presented himself as a magical creature, except omitting the parts where he fights for nature and all that, and offered O'Hare the seeds so he could produce his air, that way he influenced everything from behind the scenes.

  • @AustinD_YT
    @AustinD_YT22 күн бұрын

    While i agree with the family connections, the fact O'hare got a seed from the lorax though im not so sure. In an extended version of the theme song at the top of the movie, where the town is praising how perfect their town is, O'hare himself says a very particular line: "I sell them something they can get for free" Now, the reason this line was left in the extended version of the song but not the one in the movie is anyones guess. It could be an old plotline they scrapped. However, it DOES support the idea that life isnt as far gone as its said to be. Or he could be referring to tge fact the onceler still has a seed that he only knows about because he maybe got one of 2 seeds from the Onceler

  • @1stCallipostle

    @1stCallipostle

    21 күн бұрын

    The way it's presented has always implied to me that air isn't gone. The air may be thin, stale, or otherwise unpleasant, so people are willing to buy fresh air. However, it's not like everyone is taking constant hits of the canned air to stay standing. Either he's passively providing some amount of air as a public service, or it's still otherwise naturally present from SOMEWHERE for free.

  • @thealextrifier
    @thealextrifier22 күн бұрын

    My mom’s most frequently asked question about Nightmare Before Christmas always was ‘why didn’t Santa use that power before Oogey Boogey nearly killed him?’ What does that have to do with this theory? Well the first words I thought of when she asked that was ‘THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS!’ Just like the Lorax says about his own powers. I wonder if Santa was trying to teach that same lesson to Halloween town by LETTING IT ALL HAPPEN?

  • @Thisnotwitterfr
    @Thisnotwitterfr22 күн бұрын

    I don’t think that Mr. O’Hare is a byproduct of The Lorax, i think he might be the Lorax. Hear me out, shortly after the Lorax leaves, we see a young Mr. O’Hare. Shortly After Mr. O’Hare is thrown out of thneedsville, the Lorax return. He might be the Lorax in a different form. This would make the Lorax Ted’s dad.

  • @TheTheorizer

    @TheTheorizer

    22 күн бұрын

    That’s what I was getting at, I just kind of said “maybe he created him” in case some people wouldn’t believe something as blunt

  • @HyperZX_YT
    @HyperZX_YT23 күн бұрын

    MatPats adopted son finally uploaded.

  • @neonjoker

    @neonjoker

    22 күн бұрын

    They grow up so fast

  • @jxsy

    @jxsy

    5 күн бұрын

    bro chill out, I will literally do the unthinkable at a moments notice before you can even stop me. Dare you even utter the phrase "matpat" out of your sorry excuse for a mouth again, I will pursue you and make sure you regret it.

  • @neonjoker

    @neonjoker

    4 күн бұрын

    @@jxsy matpat

  • @Snittty
    @Snittty22 күн бұрын

    If the theoriser made a video saying i was a russian sleeper agent activated by the word bananajam i would believe him

  • @TheTheorizer

    @TheTheorizer

    22 күн бұрын

    Next week…

  • @debater452

    @debater452

    21 күн бұрын

    Matilda ​@@TheTheorizer

  • @AchyParts

    @AchyParts

    20 күн бұрын

    Bananajam >:)

  • @Fitzcrackers4prez
    @Fitzcrackers4prez22 күн бұрын

    I always assumed o'hair just got the air elsewhere. All the animals went away so they probably went somewhere. Also, the more convincing evidence, the onceler found the trufula trees through traveling. That means that there's other places without trufula trees, and that means other ways of getting oxygen. The onceler also had an axe before he knew about trufula trees, so theres other types of trees that would still exist.

  • @buttercupthetortoise7806
    @buttercupthetortoise780618 күн бұрын

    I just realized something. When Ted goes to plant the seed, we see the whole town is concrete. There’s no exposed soil to prevent trees from growing. That’s O’Hares doing. So if someone dies, where are they buried? Outside of town? O’Hare doesn’t let anyone go outside of town and no one goes there anyways. So where do the bodies go? Also how is the onceler still alive after all this time without any fresh air? There’s no trees or plants alive near his house

  • @billybobjoe-gv7jx
    @billybobjoe-gv7jx22 күн бұрын

    the theorizers pfp makes me think they are like a member of anonymous and if I don't believe them they gonna send me a virus that makes my computer explode. Youve convinced me before the vid started

  • @snapslingpeavine1371
    @snapslingpeavine137123 күн бұрын

    Have you ever watched the adult cartoon "Happy Tree Friends?" I know it’s a weird thing to bring up considering it’s unrelated to the topic of this video, but I feel the show has some good theory potential. I don’t want to spoil anything in the series, but just as an example the show has a lot of strange inconsistencies that I see as too purposeful to be just continuity mistakes. Also, the series is based around seemingly cute and cuddly characters that have demented sides to their personality, which is a trend I’ve noticed with a lot of your theory topics. (i.e. Mort, Katie, Gary the Snail, Scrat, etc.)

  • @swausgebouwen143

    @swausgebouwen143

    22 күн бұрын

    Good comment, hope he reads it

  • @DivineXPotato

    @DivineXPotato

    22 күн бұрын

    that unlocked some core memories thanks

  • @trixxart777

    @trixxart777

    21 күн бұрын

    I remember stumbling across that show when I was younger. Definitely would be cool to see to see a theory.

  • @outerspaceproduction

    @outerspaceproduction

    21 күн бұрын

    I love htf! ❤️ (Tothy is my favorite)

  • @snapslingpeavine1371

    @snapslingpeavine1371

    21 күн бұрын

    @@outerspaceproduction Flaky and Pop for me personally. Toothy is very underrated though!

  • @debater452
    @debater45223 күн бұрын

    This is actually apart of the Shadow of the Erdtree expansion

  • @IronDJW

    @IronDJW

    22 күн бұрын

    *Boss bar fills* _Lorax, Speaker of the Trees_

  • @Secretlyjudgingyou-vr9mh
    @Secretlyjudgingyou-vr9mh22 күн бұрын

    You know the movie could avoid avoided if they just you know planted more trees after they chopped them down. That's how the logging industry works.They don't go just chopping down trees and then leaving For the next forest they regrow trees

  • @vulcorethegreat1220
    @vulcorethegreat122022 күн бұрын

    Bro his voice sound much deeper. Unfortunately a slight plot hole in all this. The reason Ohare doesn't want the trees is because trees make fresh air for free. His whole business is selling purified air, even advertised as such. Mechanical air purifiers are a thing and Ohare seems to be a nerdy tech guy so he more likely invented air purifiers.

  • @FroppyKai
    @FroppyKai23 күн бұрын

    finally, how many times have you smashed your fist against the wall when making this video?

  • @TheWhite-Guy
    @TheWhite-Guy22 күн бұрын

    Alright, here goes: So this whole thing could be seen as a metaphor for the Bible. The most obvious comparison would be Ted being Jesus, saving the town from a hellish, artificial world and starting to plant trees. This would also make the Lorax God. He descends from the sky, protects the animals, is played by Danny Devito, and, if your theory is correct, destroyed the trees and wilderness, perhaps similar to the flooding of Earth in Genesis. These two comparisons also fit together quite nicely, as if the Lorax is O’Hare, or created O’Hare, and O’Hare is Ted’s father, that would make the metaphorical God the father of the metaphorical Jesus, just like the Bible. That leaves a couple of options for the Once-ler, the best fitting being Adam and Granny Norma being Eve. This works best if you consider that Granny Norma was the Thneed woman, the first one who truly used the Thneed, the object which later led to the destruction of all the trees, perhaps how like Eve was the first to take a bite out of the forbidden fruit, which led to her and Adam being expelled from the Garden of Eden. That would therefore make the Once-ler’s father: the Lorax, just as God created Adam. Edit: I think I changed my mind about The Lorax being The Onceler’s father. The main reason for this is, why? What point would the Lorax have to have a son who was destined to destroy the trees? You could argue that the Lorax did so in order to display the dangers of destroying the trees for everyone else. But that would rely on the assumption that there are others who would want to destroy all the trees. It also involves an unhealthy dose of cyclical reasoning. The Lorax has a son to destroy trees…so he can make sure no one destroys the trees. If Mr. Riser can make it work, awesome, but I’m calling the last part of my theory wrong. (I still believe everything else I talked about though.)

  • @tincan357

    @tincan357

    22 күн бұрын

    damn that's good, to add more, since Jesus is God that would make Ted, O'hare and the Lorax be the same form of something which forms a trinity, i believe in that world God exists which would make it perfect i need the theorizer to make something out of these comparisons also i don't know much about christianity so if i say nonsnse tell me

  • @TheWhite-Guy

    @TheWhite-Guy

    22 күн бұрын

    @@tincan357 you’ve actually got a good point about the trinity, but I don’t think Ted is the third member, I think it might be Audrey. Mr. Riser did make a theory way back when, in which he claimed that Audrey is the Lorax, so you can find all the evidence for it there. That doesn’t quite line up with Ted being Jesus, given that Jesus is part of the trinity, but I think it’s an interesting extension. Good idea.

  • @Walleyedwosaik
    @Walleyedwosaik20 күн бұрын

    Game theory went decently crazy so this man could go BATSHIT FECKING INSANE

  • @BadTunes.
    @BadTunes.19 күн бұрын

    At first I was leaning into mail man as his father is such a great joke, I died at this part. 4:40

  • @The_Evilman47
    @The_Evilman4723 күн бұрын

    Lorax? more like... EVILORAX!!!!

  • @minimal301
    @minimal30123 күн бұрын

    NO WAY THE GUY WHO SPEAKS FOR THE TREES DESTROYS THE TREES

  • @Phantom86d

    @Phantom86d

    22 күн бұрын

    Trees are more violent than you know. They share resources between their root systems and if a tree is weak, the other trees withhold nutrients. Anyone who speaks for the trees must be equally pragmatic. 🤫

  • @matthewmorano8457
    @matthewmorano845722 күн бұрын

    Yessss! Always look forward to diving into the madness with you! It's really a shame that you keep getting copyright struck, but I'll watch everything you make, even if it's an edited reupload.

  • @laatmaasquanariin3945
    @laatmaasquanariin394522 күн бұрын

    Every few months i come back to this channel and im never dissapointed. Keep bringing the thruth you crazy enlightened individual

  • @luisrodriguez7727
    @luisrodriguez772723 күн бұрын

    New video about the lorax, awesome!!!

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon23 күн бұрын

    0:12 Well it’s an illuminations production of course he wanted it all to die of course he’s selling out for Honda, cuz he ain’t the Lorax he’s a poser ass!

  • @CalamityEvermore
    @CalamityEvermore22 күн бұрын

    Hlariously enough, earlier this week in class we watched the lorax and I had the exact same thought of "what if granny norma was the thneed girl?", so seeing somebody actually look into this is seriously making this an enjoyable episode.

  • @alyssanering7454
    @alyssanering745418 күн бұрын

    Get this man a Netflix show

  • @elliot-sowdon
    @elliot-sowdon22 күн бұрын

    I think the Lorax is probably Cy the O’Hare Delivery Guy. The flashbacks seem to imply that O’Hare is just another Onceler style capitalist who started out innocent but was corrupted by money and power. Audrey is too young, for her to be the Lorax, he would have had to decided to become a lost child and hope to be adopted, or possibly dispose of an actual child and replace her, which seems harsh considering that he was opposed to drowning the Onceler. Cy has no backstory and would have been an adult when the town was incorporated. He is the first townsperson to say that the trees are worth a chance at the climax of the movie, actually calls O’Hare a “greedy dirtbag” and he has the exact same mustache as the Lorax. As a delivery man he can enter every house in town and monitor the people. He could have been the one to tell Audrey about the trees and he could have “found” a seed for O’Hare back in the day and given it away, pretending he didn’t understand its worth. I suppose he could also be Audrey’s father who raised her with an understanding of nature, but I can’t prove that, only suspect it from her Lorax colored hair and knowledge that trees produce oxygen. Audrey being effectively half fay would also explain why the tree she helped plant grew so well and produced so many more trees. She literally has nature magic. Another point in favor of the Lorax visiting everyone and subtly promoting trees to them is that literally everyone in town except O’Hare is so excited about gardening that they sing about it, including Marie who is only 3 but would really like to see a tree. Why? Most people irl are indifferent to adding a new thing to their town, and 3 year olds are usually uninterested in things that will not benefit them in the next 10 minutes. I suppose Marie could be Audrey’s sister since she does stand with Audrey and Cy during O’Hare’s part in “Let it Grow” and has no definitive parents. Also despite her young age she is on key and rhymes her verse perfectly. Her hair is more strawberry blonde than orange but it could darken with age and she has blue eyes and an upturned nose like the Lorax. None of that proves she isn’t fully human, but the only other child who has a solo in this movie is Westley who has the shorter non rhyming line “I just went swimming and now I glow.” Considering that he can actually swim without floaties, he is probably much older than 3, yet has a much simpler part. Suspicious.

  • @TrueHavoc13
    @TrueHavoc1322 күн бұрын

    It makes me feel that they are separate entities part of a cycle. Kind of kile rava and vaatu from legend of korra

  • @sugrcube
    @sugrcube17 күн бұрын

    omg i havent watched this channel in YEARS but im so glad to see youre still going strong

  • @kylebartlett9683
    @kylebartlett968322 күн бұрын

    I always figured O'Hare gets the air from somewhere far off. After all the animal are going somewhere in the flashback so its not like all the trees are gone, only the ones in that area are. So its less that the air is being "created" and more like its being imported

  • @HeyItsQuayshawn
    @HeyItsQuayshawn22 күн бұрын

    @12:48-13:13 FACTS!!! Consequences are the best/only teacher. Gotta hit rock bottom. I used to be an "activist". Then I realized some things about ppl & myself. Now I just focus on my own integrity & whats in my direct control, & "let" ppl learn the hard way. 🤷🏾

  • @Mrcrackodoodle
    @Mrcrackodoodle23 күн бұрын

    IVE BEEN SO ADDICTED TO THE LORAX FOR SO LONG IM SO READY FOR THIS

  • @friendlyneighborhoodsoeedw4440
    @friendlyneighborhoodsoeedw444021 күн бұрын

    I really wanted to say that this channel is super unique. With hundreds of Theory channels exist, then you have the theory channel of all theory channels, whom i wont name. But, despite all that, you do a great job on standing out! While others mosly recap on theories already known, or the aforementioned theory channel of theory channels. But your sarcasm and wackiness is really entertaining. And i really appreciate how straight you play it, with just the right amount of self awareness. And the quickness to the point as it just descends into madness is just, great.

  • @1Adamrpg
    @1Adamrpg22 күн бұрын

    Amazing production quality, pacing, and vibes. Please keep this up!

  • @charlotterice3839
    @charlotterice383923 күн бұрын

    WAAAAAH THEORIZER UPLOADED

  • @bellejour559
    @bellejour55923 күн бұрын

    Whhhaaaat? Never heard of this. Thank you!

  • @kingDowahs
    @kingDowahs19 күн бұрын

    The Theorizer could be talking about a Toothpaste brand and would still make it sound like the deepest conspiracy of all time

  • @Bunbunboi-lm8bw
    @Bunbunboi-lm8bw22 күн бұрын

    The Theorizer, you scare me… AND I LOVE IT!!

  • @nightwatch3889
    @nightwatch388923 күн бұрын

    Looks like you defeated Universal ⚔️ Also not to be annoying but I got the first view baby

  • @osmosisjones4912
    @osmosisjones491223 күн бұрын

    this more nostalgic then Nostalgia critic

  • @occultnightingale1106
    @occultnightingale110620 күн бұрын

    This video (and by extension, the entire channel) are a testament to the importance of paying attention to the small details when writing/making a story. Intentional or not, these small details can completely recontextualize everything, or more importantly, completely dismantle the story you thought you were trying to tell.

  • @Pre-understood
    @Pre-understood23 күн бұрын

    shoulda put the vine thud sound at the word disco reveal

  • @mrdoor12323
    @mrdoor1232322 күн бұрын

    Is this the new theory legend after matpat retired

  • @DanielLopez-jl7is
    @DanielLopez-jl7is8 күн бұрын

    I miss the days where I would watch a Theorizer video on a Saturday morning and be amazed then play videogames, now it’s I have to watch it two weeks after it’s posted because I finally get a day off from work and this is peak entertainment to relax to👌 I love your content man, always will

  • @dragonpimp252
    @dragonpimp25222 күн бұрын

    yessssssssssss you always crack open these theory's please keep it up man!

  • @MajorProblems5
    @MajorProblems523 күн бұрын

    Been waiting

  • @oneiroi6881
    @oneiroi688123 күн бұрын

    AWESOME

  • @jadamaynard-chung3046
    @jadamaynard-chung304622 күн бұрын

    I’ve been binge watching old theories.i literally watched a different Lorax one before this 😂😂😂 great timing

  • @1000dumplings
    @1000dumplings9 күн бұрын

    This is such an amazing theory, the fact that it lines up with the morals and soul of the actual story speaks volumes. I wouldn't be surprised if the creators confirmed this was canon. Hats off to you!

  • @thisisavivistanaccount7866
    @thisisavivistanaccount786623 күн бұрын

    yay! here it is!!!

  • @harrietsmells
    @harrietsmells23 күн бұрын

    HOLY CRAP REALLY

  • @aa-eh9uf
    @aa-eh9uf23 күн бұрын

    instant like as soon as i clicked on this video. i saw you explain in a post some hours ago about how they™️ tried to silence you with copyright and not let this video get uploaded; just proves this video is 100% correct.

  • @spoookley
    @spoookley21 күн бұрын

    the thing about illumination movies is that the animators are actually BONKERS when it comes to detail. specifically, both norma & bernice have a noticeably familiar set of cardigans (altered thneeds) & ted’s outfit is literally cut from the same cloth as the thneed girl’s shirt with the once-ler’s grey undershirt. their family has been in the textile business for generations, the best (& most common) practice is to reuse fabric whenever possible there’s also even more genetic traits that you can point to, since there is a LOT of attention to detail put there. between ted, bernice, & norma (including past norma), you can see that they all have the upturned button nose, which like in real life your nose becomes larger with age, but ted’s nose is already bigger than norma’s was in the past, which makes sense when you look at o’hare’s nose. ted’s face shape is directly in between that of his mom’s & o’hare’s. i’d also like to point out some interesting genetics that could hypothetically happen if audrey & ted had kids. we know norma was blond & thus bernice has to have the blond trait as well. lorax genetics definitely make it more difficult to figure out exactly what would happen (especially since he’s got red body hair & blonde facial hair) so we know ted has to have brown hair, but we also have no idea if he as a second brown hair gene, a blond gene from his mother’s side, or he has the wack lorax genetics. this means that if ted & audrey have kids they could either all have brown hair, have a mix of brown & strawberry blond, or even a mix of brown, red, (strawberry?) blond, & lorax

  • @all2564
    @all256423 күн бұрын

    How bad can it be?

  • @youtubeneedstochange4414
    @youtubeneedstochange441422 күн бұрын

    I would believe this if The Lorax wasn't a garbage movie made by a soulless corporation for the sake of profit and nothing else. The idea that they would put any thought whatsoever into the plot is hilarious.

  • @1stCallipostle

    @1stCallipostle

    21 күн бұрын

    They were far less soulless at the time.

  • @Amethyspian12
    @Amethyspian1222 күн бұрын

    The Disco might also be a reference to the band Panic! At The Disco. Ted's main outfit is modeled after a famous outfit the lead singer, Brendon Urie wore in the 2000's. And the Onceler is based off of the original songwriter and guitarist (and lead vocalist for the second album) Ryan Ross. Just search his name with the Onceler, and you'll see the proof. The band had a pretty talked-about split, so it's fair to assume some of the staff got crazy with it.

  • @coachcherokee1488
    @coachcherokee148822 күн бұрын

    You know it’s a good day when the theorized uploads

  • @Dahlia_Sweetie
    @Dahlia_Sweetie23 күн бұрын

    YASS UPLOADED! EARLY

  • @HPro5555
    @HPro555523 күн бұрын

    Evil Lorax!

  • @saraquick1847
    @saraquick18478 күн бұрын

    Im going to be absolutely honest, after matpat left officially i thought there would be a void in the theory community and then i stumbled across your channel, gained a fan for life thank you for your deep dives ill never stop watching and theorizing

  • @verylostdoommarauder
    @verylostdoommarauder3 күн бұрын

    I find it funny that this guy has probably put more thought into this movie then everyone who worked on it

  • @osmosisjones4912
    @osmosisjones491223 күн бұрын

    I thought Ted was 12

  • @ArtisticAspie962

    @ArtisticAspie962

    2 күн бұрын

    He is, according to the film’s Wikipedia.

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