This is exactly what I want the Amazon Series to be about

@andrewjazdzyk1215

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, me as well. We do know that at least the first season will be about young aragorn though. But gawd would it be awesome to see the fall of Arnor in a series

@plaguedr8831

5 жыл бұрын

When does it start?!

@andrewjazdzyk1215

5 жыл бұрын

@@plaguedr8831 Unknown as of yet. If I remember correctly they are going to start filming next year I think, so possibly 2020.

@marckrieger3277

5 жыл бұрын

Like it was said in the video, this war lastet centurys to much time to cover for a series. I would like to see it anyway because it is one of my favourite storys in the legendarium.

@Evenstar213

5 жыл бұрын

would be tricky for sure, but quite awesome if the director is good enough

Every war has its traitors, every war has its hero's and as Samwise the Stout-hearted realized those tales never end, not truly, they simply move on to new parts and new hands.

@slappy8941

5 жыл бұрын

That why we're still fighting Muslims and Communists...

@IsmailKhan-cj1xq

5 жыл бұрын

@@slappy8941 im a muxlim

@halo091

4 жыл бұрын

I'm about to abandon reason for madness...

Reading the books about the fall of Arnor was sad, just sad.

@nicolasp.1087

5 жыл бұрын

Mountain Fisher whick books are those?

@MountainFisher

5 жыл бұрын

@@nicolasp.1087 In the ROTK Appendix and some of the Silmarillion.

@theflammiferofwesternesse6122

4 жыл бұрын

@@MountainFisher I'm a bit late, but just finished Silmarillion (w/ Akalabeth and "of the rings of power"); and what an amazing book this was! Would definitely read up more on early Arnor and Gondor - post Numenor - as it isn't discussed much in the silmarillion.

@andrewrobertson3894

3 жыл бұрын

Children of Hurin is awesome if you can find it.

@MountainFisher

3 жыл бұрын

@@theflammiferofwesternesse6122 The Appendix in ROTK has the most to say about Arnor and it dividing into 3 kingdoms which each fell separately to the Witch King of Angband.

Glorfindel: The guy with the biggest sense of humor in the history of Middle-earth!

@MountainFisher

5 жыл бұрын

Explain please? Glorfindel was a resurrected Elf with high powers, but I don't remember anything humorous.

@animistchannel2983

5 жыл бұрын

Bells on his horses, and songs in his mind Long set the courses, yet soon he will find The flower of gold with an ivory steed Future foretelling and meet us in need Run, run, run away! Terrors sure to follow Watch him watch down from the hills And see all your tomorrows Deep, deep, deep he's been, in Mandos' musty halls Where music made of history Makes echoes on the walls Laugh, laugh, sing and dance! Journey back to stay Upon the lands the mortals know To fight another day Bells on his horses, and songs in his mind Eternal heart of forces, eternal is his kind All that is gold does not glitter... ...but sometimes, in the light of his eyes, ...by the word of his rhyme, and no matter your size ...what ends may come, what suns may rise ...when deeds are done, when the battle cries There is one who has lasted, and even returned Wrapped up in laughter, so jolly yet stern In his wrath and his humor, his glittering sight Will lead you home, parting shadows, blazing light The golden lord charges against the darkness, and darkness itself must flee from him and the name of the light that drives a fate forever forward... is Glorfindel. with bells on his horses, and songs in his mind.

@animistchannel2983

5 жыл бұрын

@@MountainFisher He saw how the Witch King would die, and he made a joke out of it. "Not by the hand of man" indeed! He went riding around openly against the ring-wraiths with friggin' jingle bells on his horse, just so they'd know it was him, or not caring if they did. Everything about him says: "So what?" He's been there, done that, already has the t-shirt, and isn't worried about... anything. That's the most fun you can have, even on the second time around. He had this understated way of putting things in context or proportion, like (approx) "There aren't many left who can ride openly against all of the Nine, but such as we are, we came out to find you" like he was just going to bring in a puppy before it got caught in the rain. He didn't CARE if there were ringwraiths, because they didn't matter to him, and that's too funny, and he knew it. Multiple times in the legendarium, everything was going to hell, and then Glorfindel... happened.

@MountainFisher

5 жыл бұрын

@@animistchannel2983 : I get that it is funny to you, but it is a matter of perspective. Did Glorfindel actually see that a Hobbit would bring the Chief of the Nazgul down or did he just get the word that Mankind would not bring about his downfall so that Gothmog, named after the chief of the Balrogs, would become Captain of the Nazgul? The bells on his horse may not be for signaling, but just because he liked their sound. BTW I'm not debating you trying to win a contest of words over a fantasy. LOL I'm trying to draw out more of your educated opinion. Where did that poem come from, you??

@sertaki

5 жыл бұрын

@@MountainFisher It was not a hobbit that brought down the witchking, neither was it a man. It was Eowyn.

In some sources, it may say the war ends with the fall of Arnor in 1974, but I count the Battle of Fornost to be apart of the war, so most times I say the war went to 1975, but some of my videos may go back and forth on that! This war is also the story of the campaign in The Battle for Middle-Earth II: The Rise of the Witch-King! I would highly recommend checking it out!

@MikaelKKarlsson

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed. If there's a game I would gladly see be remade...

@greengables5866

5 жыл бұрын

@@MikaelKKarlsson that's what BFME Reforged aims to do, if you know what that is

@treynienhuser2616

5 жыл бұрын

Never heard of it. I'll have to check it out.

@Surferguyc

5 жыл бұрын

Amazing game!!!!!!!!! I love war strategy games, to have it in Tolkien’s world was just a perfect merriment of war strategy and middle earth emersion.

@Thoralmir

4 жыл бұрын

"I am the Dark Lord's heir." I find that line interesting on a meta-level, particularly the choice of the word "heir", not "servant". We know that Sauron was hiding his continued survival during this time, and use of the word "heir" implies that Sauron has died, or at least is never coming back. A ruse, a deception. His name carries weight in Middle-Earth; Sauron’s enemies would've rallied at the first real hint that he was behind Angmar. Yet, most wouldn't bother with this unknown new guy, this "Witch-King", until it was too late to stop him.

This is one of my favorite stories in LOTR lore. I hope they touch on it in the Amazon show.

@morganadamo4706

5 жыл бұрын

same man i would love to see stuff like this

@generoberts9151

4 жыл бұрын

Considering the show is supposed to be in the 2nd age. I am expecting the Fallmof Numenor to be the center of the show with the rise of the Witch King due to the Lord of Gifts aka Sauron deceiving man

I feel like if the Witch-King had somehow managed to survive the destruction of the Ring, he could easily have become a Dark Lord in his own right.

@jakobrenner2230

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not quite sure of that. The Witch King was still a Nazgûl so he was enslaved by the One.

@mason2486

3 жыл бұрын

It may not be lore friendly but it would be a really cool squeal to the lord of the rings movies

@professional_cynic98

3 жыл бұрын

@@mason2486 personally I prefer sequels rather than to squeal

@NarutoJK-jh7tr

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, his power is tied with saroun power. So if sarouns weak all the nazgul are weak. E.g. That's why u don't see them much in the hobbit

@jakobrenner2230

3 жыл бұрын

@@mason2486 not really. In the movies it is established that the Nazgûl are tied to Sauron, same as the book, so to make a sequel it would be breaking the established lore of the movies. Besides, we don't know nothing of the Witch King's true personality; all we saw was a slave to Sauron. Because of this, I think it would be better to have a prequel to see what kind of men where the Nazgûl (specially the Lord of the Nazgûl) before turning into what they are by the time of lotr. Not only it would actually make sense, but it would be much more interesting as opposed to just cool for the sake of it.

Thanks for explaining this part of the story. The Witch King is one of my favorite villains ever and I like the idea of him ruling over his own kingdom as a wraith at one point. However, I was never able to piece together exactly when or how this war took place in spite of reading the appendixes and other extended readings. I think this war would be a great setting for a game of some sort.

@thanghoang3198

5 жыл бұрын

BFME II: ROTWK

I really love these videos and give thanks for the research and preparation of them. I have been a Tolkien fan since I was 18. I am now 68 and still love the stories as much as ever. I have all the books, including all books printed post-mortem. I also play Lord of the Rings Online (LotRO), a MMORPG that has been ongoing for about 12 years. I started playing right at the end of the Alpha 2 stage, in January of 2017. The game has so much detail about the stories and the scenery is fabulous. I feel I'm actually in Middle Earth when I'm ingame. I've stood on the broken ship in Forochel, I've been to Angmar to Carn Dum, I've been so many other places I've read about in the books. The original developers of LotRO were very strict on keeping as close to the lore of Tolkien as viable with an online game and that is what keeps me there.

This is your most recent video so I’ll say it here: today December 17 marks the 15th anniversary of the release of the Return of the King, possibly one of and in my opinion the best film of all time. Such a magnificent movie

@Belerez

5 жыл бұрын

Just watched TTT last night . I'll watch in a few hours RotK EE

@kreuzrittergottes9336

5 жыл бұрын

it is terrible as far as the books are concerned. I almost left the theater, but im a book Nazi when it comes to Tolkien

@SamGlaze

4 жыл бұрын

Kreuzritter Gottes I mean, there’s a lot of stuff left out, but even with that it’s a 4 hour movie. There’s not a whole lot left that they could do without making it a 6 hour long affair. Even the most passionate fan of Tolkien’s books can’t possible think that the movies were horrible. Other than leaving out some of the characters (Imrahil, Forlond, Duinhir and the other lords of Gondor, The Grey Company and the sons of Elrond) and the whole army of the dead thing, I can’t think of anything facetious they added for example. Most importantly, as important as some of those things are in the legendarium, I understand that the product which was put forward on the screen wouldn’t necessarily have benefitted from those extra little characters and tidbits, as much as I love them, it might have just cluttered the part of the story they were trying to tell.

Great. One of your best. The seldom told part of Middle Earth history. Thank you, as always.

Time to reinstall Rise of the Witch-King.

Ugh, like I needed to be reminded of the 'I am no man' scene from the movie. So groan-worthy. Thanks for that one, Glorfindel.

This entire section is so tv show worthy. I would love a show about Angmar and the Witch King. We need a show that roots for evil someday lol after the second age stuff is done I hope someone can pursue this part of the Third Age for a future series . We need to see more of what the North looks like.

One of my favorite war in the legendarium as well

Hey love the content. If possible, could you do a video on the fall of khazad dûm?

@MenoftheWest

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely! That it a great idea! Thank you for the suggestion!

@brianmessemer2973

5 жыл бұрын

Molsy 176 seconded. I often wonder how that might have happened!

@patrickmalone1373

5 жыл бұрын

I also would enjoy that video

@michaelbacon822

4 жыл бұрын

Yes please.

I always watch these videos to get ready to log into LOTRO haha. Never fails to inspire.

I have always been fascinated and awestruck by the Angmar Wars, ever since I learned of them. One of my favorite fanfics that try to depict a portion of it is called "The Last Prince" by Ianeth, chronicling the final days of Cardolan. One of my favorite passages is after the great battle at Amon Sûl has been lost, the armies of Arthedain and Cardolan having fallen or fled into their fortifications. King Arveleg is dead, Amon Sûl burns in the distance, the brother of the last prince of Cardolan dies of his wounds in another fort. And the chapter ends with this passage: "Not long afterwards, though it was still night, the enemy commenced his assault on the remaining forts that still lay in the hands of his enemy using fresh forces who had not up to that point taken part in the battle. The men on the walls saw their torches advance in long snaking rivers of light along the ridge and up the steep eastern flanks of the hills, but even before they arrived they found themselves pitted in a bitter fight against mountain orcs who had scaled the walls under cover of darkness. Great were the deeds done in the defence of those high places, even when all hope had been extinguished, but by the morning none remained to tell of them and the victory of the Sorcerer King of Angmar was complete." This embodies what I like most of the Fall of Arnor. The Dunedain fought to the end, even when all hope was lost.

1:35 DARK SPIRIT FORLORN HAS INVADED YOUR WORLD

@simonnn7218

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha I'm glad other people noticed lmfao. Dark souls 2 picture lol

Men of the West could you do a what if video about If Arnor had lived? Mostly a what if Arvedui had listened and lived to see Angmar destroyed. Also where were the Istari during the fall of Arethedain? All that effort to save Minas Tirith and they no show on Arnor, why?

Woohoo! 2 Middle-Earth videos in one day! I feel lucky :D Great video as always!

Thanks for posting. I've read this book once a year since finishing LOTR in the early seventies and your videos have a lot of the back history a lot clearer for me. You really help me appreciate LOTR in a different light.

This is my favorite war as well

It's worth noting that the Angmar War took place at the same time as the Kin-Strife and invasions of Gondor by the Corsairs of Umbar and the Easterlings, so it isn't like the Gondorians were sitting around doing nothing out of apathy while Arnor was being destroyed. They had really major problems of their own to deal with.

Another great video Yoystan! I love hearing about the old wars that moment when Glorfindel himself is coming over to kick your ass 'I have made a terrible, terrible mistake'

Arnor my favorite kingdom of all middle earth and this world was indeed a great kingdom nonetheless was its people and it’s valiant history of its wars and its peace. -long live the north and the Dunedain

Great Video dude! GeekZone just came out with a Barrow Wights video earlier today. Plus, i'm currently watching Return of the the King lol. Thanks again and keep up the great work!

@loremaster234

5 жыл бұрын

Bernie McHeathen well I just followed along with the video and the website and nothing was word for word or even in the same order. It’s knowledge that anyone has access to from the books and several sites so I’m not seeing how he plagiarized this. I’m not necessarily saying that you’re wrong, but I would require examples on your part to further entertain such an accusation. Thank you.

Great video Yoystan, I too also love the conflicts in Eriador before the events of the war of the ring! I also cannot wait for the video on the Druedain next week as they are genuinely my favourite race in middle earth! Keep being the BEST channel on youtube!

I love your videos deeply and this one most of all. The war of Angmar is my favorite war in the Legendarium.

Had no idea about this. Thanks for bringing the witch Kings legacy to light.

Thank you. I quite enjoy your moral take on the different stories within the legendarium. Good words to live by.

Thank you so much for finally making a video on this interesting, yet often overlooked chapter in the Tolkien Legensarium!

Yaaaaassss!!! Also one of my favorite chapters in the history of middle earth:) Gotta say the battle for middle earth rise of angmar really helped in the understanding of events (a review of that game would be great;) Interesting how the witch king played the same role as Sauron played for Morgoth, just a further extension of their evil purpose Makes me wonder tho if a warrior woman had been present during the witch kings escape or if a daughter of the king took up her fathers sword and fought. History might have been drastically different without the lord of the Nazgul around🧐🤔

If Tolkien just talk more about the Hobbit army attacking the goblin nest.

Coming in clutch while i should be studying for finals dont know if i am happy or sad

Hey man I love your content! I’ve decided today that you are my favorite LOTR channel. Why? I dig the take away lessons at the end. You always seem to tie in a lesson that can be applied to life. Very cool👍

I see Yoystan is a cultured man like myself, for the dúnedain, their kingdoms and the rangers that came after them are some of the coolest things in the legendarium. If I lived in Middle-Earth, I would be a Dúnedain ranger for sure.

Wars of the legendarium...brilliant! I love the wording of that and hope to see more of it in the future. As for the Amazon series upcoming, I truly hope to see and almost expect, the witch king being a part of it. Excellent video 👍👌

I'm glad that you have done a video about the Angmar war as this also one of my Favourite war and the fall of Arnor was terrible. Keep the Amazing work up.

We just ordered T-shirt’s for Xmas gifts ! So excited!!! Thanks ♥️

Rise of The Witch King might be my favorite game expansion. I wish they had made more expansions from Middle Earth's history like this. Have you made a video aobout the games yet?

This video just turned up in my recomended, I found this channel and I love it! Looking forward to watch your other videos

I totally watched the whole video

Thanks for another great video Yoystan! Cheers mate!

Hey man can I suggest making a video series in which you talk possible books that Christopher Tolkien can make about certain characters? For example, and my personal favourite, would be a book focused about the nine ringwraights, where it tells only about their life before they had the rings of power, the period that took them to be fully corrupted up until the end of the servitude to the Dark Lord. And the best title for the novel ,in my opinion, would be The Nine Kings.

@MenoftheWest

5 жыл бұрын

That's a great idea! Thank you for the suggestion!

@justin_hero9647

5 жыл бұрын

@@MenoftheWest No problem Yoistan, glad that you love the ideea, can't wait to see it when you are ready. Love your work.

@ChaosToRule

5 жыл бұрын

I would love to read those books, what a great idea for Yoistan.

So glad to have found this channel!

Dark Souls artwork right there! I loved watching through your lore videos. Keep it going.

Thank you for this video! I am running the One Ring RPG adventure “Ruins of the North”. This video is helpful for background material for the ruins of Arnor where the adventure is placed.

Love this period too though it’s quite sad also.

One of my favorites. Thank You.

This really makes me want to play LOTRO again, I haven't played in years. I think Shadows of Angmar was the newest expansion when I quit.

I love your videos man

@MenoftheWest

5 жыл бұрын

I'm glad! Thank you so much for watching, I really appreciate it!

@leas699

5 жыл бұрын

@@MenoftheWest Can you make a video about the story of Gollum and how he turned like this from Smeagol? I already know it but it is very interesting story . If you already have a video about Smeagol's story then sorry I'm new in the channel 😁

Nice work dude thanks

They should totally make an in depth open world single player rpg based on this period

Quick theory -Tom Bombadil is the same type of creature, entity as Ungoliant, both a spawn or branch of the music of the Ainur

Now I know I’ve requested this a lot but PLEASE do a video on The Hobbit Video Game!!

@darthvader6533

5 жыл бұрын

What game is this?

love your content. while I love LOTR and Tolkien's work around it (especially the linguistic parts), reading ALL the texts that give us the history & mythology is ... kind of exhausting (like studying for a history exam) so these topic-focused videos are a great way to dive into the background & history of Middle Earth without having to actually study Tolkienism :D

I love your videos.

As always: war between good and evil, struggle for power and wealth. NIce resume of the stories.

I hope Amazon will adapt this story. I want to see how the noble ancestors to Aragorn fighting the WK and his army.

need to go to bed BUT I just saw this on my alert. I will be sleeping very well tonight!!

This war always interested me in all of lotr. I hope that it gets explored more in the future with the lotr tv series.

I love this channel! 🗡🛡🏹

These videos are certainly the best Tolkien-focused videos on the internet, but I have one simple point which I believe would please many viewers: you should change the font your using. Maybe not the standard font but something nicer or something that follows the theme of the channel. It would be great. I love your videos!

That was great! I'm amazed that the campaign of Bfme2RoW is pretty cannon

Your videos are excellent.

I love this channel! Proud to be a man of the west!

Merry Christmas

@MenoftheWest

5 жыл бұрын

You too, my friend!

2:24 'Shredder' looking for a place too cold for turtles to thwart his dastardly deeds.

@Despondencymusic

4 жыл бұрын

Ha ha 🤣

"No living man may hinder me." "I am no man."

@Albiliuss

4 жыл бұрын

DrRocketman 779 It’s ma’am!!!!!

Another great video! Thanks!

One of the Witch-King's greatest weaknesses was 20th Century (A.D.) show tunes, which he knew from his magic. All Théoden needed to do was to start singing, "I got the horse right here The name is Paul Revere And here's a guy that says if the weather's clear Can do, can do, this guy says the horse can do If he says the horse can do, can do, can do." The Witch-King would have joined in the song and abandoned his loyalty to Sauron. But no one -- not Gandalf, not Saruman, not even Sauron -- knew this, so it never came up.

Really nice video!!

Forgive me for asking at time index 1:35 the image displayed is from Dark Souls II.

@Despondencymusic

4 жыл бұрын

Sauron- Scholar of the First Sin indeed 🤪😊

Greetings, Nerds. 😜🤝

@senkaletemitope1915

4 жыл бұрын

Greetings King Ellessar 2

@kingaragornii9940

4 жыл бұрын

@@senkaletemitope1915 Likewise, brother.

I auctally prefer the witch - king over Sauron lol. Great video!

I once saw a chess game with blue equestrians. I alsways thought they belonged to some of the kingdoms of the west/north. Is somebody knowing what i mean? They looked pretty cool, but i cant find them :/

You’re a beautiful story teller!

Oh my Ilúvatar, why haven't I discovered this channel until now?

I see men of the west video just uploaded, I click like and type comments. Simple life.

I would like to see the difereces beetween the whitch king and the nazgul because i always tough the nazgul where the 9 kings becoming whitches or something like that .__.

You are Simply amazing Yoystan I love your Works Man You are Perfect To me you are good story teller :) :) :D

i always enjoy your videos, also liked the random dark souls 2 picture

Another quality video, thank you very much :)

I like the dark souls 2 image at 1:33

At the start of every video you always greet us warmly Yoystan wherever we maybe in middle earth. My favourite places are Erebor and Dale but where in middle earth are you?

Very cool dude. Very cool

I wish they would make a movie about The Witch King of Angmar. He is so cool

What if Arnor was rebuilt and re-populated? What role would they have played in the lord of the rings? Just imagine the glory and beauty of Arnorian Soldiers marching to aid their brothers in Gondor. Perhaps Saruman would not have been able to establish his reign of terror with Arnor sending help to Rohan.

My idea is that the Witch King was not a nazgul when he ruled Angmar. Sauron gave the nine to mortal men - great Kings and Sorcerers - and all the great rings extended life. A willing servant of the Dark Lord but not yet faded to a wraith.

How the witch king was buried?? In the hobbit trilogy, lady galadriel mentions that but I haven't found any info.

@md.ahnafmoin9706

3 жыл бұрын

Only in the movies. Not Canon in the books. The witch king was never buried.

This would be a good era to cover for the Amazon series

what happened to Aragorn's descendants? Did they eventually die out? Was the reunited Kingdom of Arnor and Gondor eventually conquered by lesser men? exactly what happened to the dunedain after the 4th age?

@adrianciobanu5856

3 жыл бұрын

Ruled and faigted with Fankil in palisor.

You should try a video on Kazhad Dum history with the balrog and dwarves etc. Think it could be a epic one!!

@laboom60

5 жыл бұрын

sick boy yeah I guess your right. I smoked too much pipeweed

Bfme 2 Rotwk, That's what came in my mind during the entire video

I hope they do a GoT style LoTR show on one of the legendarium one day!!! Would love to see the Witch King War.

I wonder what the Free Peoples of Middle earth in the 3rd age could have hoped to do to defeat the host of Angband or Utumno from the 1st age or the Years of the Trees if not but be crushed under the uncountable number of Foes morgoth would have brought forward

it's cool how on one of those old maps you showed, Bree was spelled Brii

Glad to see we have the same profile pic

The Witch king is to Sauron as Sauron was to Morgoth, I think.