The American Urban/Rural Political Divide

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  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat Жыл бұрын

    Here is the survey: forms.gle/PRgXe9sXk7yn9W4B6 Notes: From my Patreon supporter Naterade: I enjoyed your analysis on the urban and rural divide. Automation and globalization has certainly widened the divide between urban and rural areas. Also, the fact that both parties in my opinion seem to have adopted this purity test where candidates and members of a party can’t hold varying stances on certain issues otherwise they are demonized e.g. Joe Manchin bucking Biden’s agenda or Trump and republicans who attack republicans who voted to certify the 2020 election. From Patreon supporter Devin Canada: The rural culture of self-dependence might also be a contributing factor. Go to our sponsor trylgc.com/MrBeat and use MRBEAT for 30% off your at home test kit.

  • @Mido-ed7vt

    @Mido-ed7vt

    Жыл бұрын

    Please everyone stop supporting 🇮🇱

  • @hq4287

    @hq4287

    Жыл бұрын

    As a minority from a rural area, I think a lot of the argument about out of touch elites is silly, but I'll get harassment if I do a separate comment. Bigotry is everywhere, but leaders of smaller places can harass what few open minorities there are more easily. This is a big issue for me, as I have no time for bigots anywhere.

  • @grmpEqweer

    @grmpEqweer

    Жыл бұрын

    Something like 80% of the jobs created since 2010 (and I can't remember what source I got this from) are in the metro areas. ...So another way to put this? The rural areas have *been in a depression* for ten years. And the Dems haven't done anything about it, even though they claim to be the party of the people. As a metro person, on the further left, and LGBTQ+, I have no love for the Democrats. I have learned to fear Republicans, though.

  • @marshalmarrs3269

    @marshalmarrs3269

    Жыл бұрын

    There should be a unity between urban and rural Americans. FREEDOM FOREVER!!!! LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!

  • @mrnekokittycatsaki1419

    @mrnekokittycatsaki1419

    Жыл бұрын

    I noticed that Hawaii is blue not red I wonder why do you know?

  • @gavinmitchell1328
    @gavinmitchell1328 Жыл бұрын

    That Whole Foods - Cracker Barrel analogy is both hilarious and actually quite informative

  • @chl_ca

    @chl_ca

    Жыл бұрын

    as a non-American, i didn't get it

  • @RickettsJr

    @RickettsJr

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chl_ca I guess because Whole Foods is mostly found in cities while Cracker Barrel is found in rural areas.

  • @ASMRDoodlez

    @ASMRDoodlez

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chl_ca Whole Foods is an upscale grocery store and Cracker Barrel has southern charm. Or something like that.

  • @cjtuckerbpmc

    @cjtuckerbpmc

    Жыл бұрын

    Not really dude is in Missouri I happen to know both counties that house st louis and Kansas city have both cracker Barrels and whole foods.

  • @cjtuckerbpmc

    @cjtuckerbpmc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RickettsJr no not accurate. It assumed because of its esthetic alone but most cracker barrel located in high population areas.

  • @atlasmoon5497
    @atlasmoon5497 Жыл бұрын

    it saddens me just how much neglect for the working class there is right now, which affects both rural and urban living people

  • @jackh3242

    @jackh3242

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s all about the 1% vs the 99%. We shouldn’t let the culture wars distract us. The working class needs to unite now.

  • @atlasmoon5497

    @atlasmoon5497

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jackh3242 yup, that’s the true divide and the media is trying to convince us our neighbor is our enemy, smh

  • @philipmcniel4908

    @philipmcniel4908

    Жыл бұрын

    Looking at the graph at 7:24 in the video, you can clearly see where the USA went off the gold standard. I don't think it's the 1% who are the problem (they existed before 1970); it's that the government keeps printing money and not giving it to us, which means they're diluting the value of the dollars in our pockets. Based on the correlation between the timing of that split between productivity and wages and the US coming off the gold standard, I think a likely explanation is that the gap between productivity and wages *is* the production that's being bought up by those printed dollars that devalued ours, rather than just by our productivity being siphoned off by our employers and given to shareholders. And yes, you could claim that that money's being given out to the wealthy; some of it is (whether directly or indirectly), while much of the rest is being spent on government programs. The point is that that money-printing is effectively a tax on our buying power, and has been since the 1970s.

  • @TheKeksadler

    @TheKeksadler

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jackh3242 I would argue it's the upper 35% vs the lower 65% while the top 1% just sit back and watch. The 99% is NOT the working class and if you think that's the case, you are falling for propaganda.

  • @kevinaguilar7541

    @kevinaguilar7541

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RamRami238 the 1 percent is a phrase often use to describe the richest people of a country.

  • @iwantapool7945
    @iwantapool7945 Жыл бұрын

    I live in California and people always overlook the rural areas because the Bay Area and LA dominate the states economy and culture. In fact California had more republican votes than Texas in 2020 mainly from our more rural counties. I feel like the whole blue or red state divide is a very bad way to look at the country as even the reddest of states can have a very liberal city and the bluest state can have a conservative area.

  • @rino7789

    @rino7789

    Жыл бұрын

    Most counties in CA vote Republican but they don't have large populations.

  • @chinguunerdenebadrakh7022

    @chinguunerdenebadrakh7022

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rino7789 Just checked. CA has 58 counties, 23 voted for Trump and 35 voted for Biden in 2020. Doesn't seem "most" counties vote Republican.

  • @dylanjohnson4624

    @dylanjohnson4624

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 isn’t it interesting how republicans like to make things up? 🤔

  • @michaelflips3311

    @michaelflips3311

    Жыл бұрын

    And Houston, Austin, Dallas and San Antonio are majority democrat. In a red state…

  • @michaelflips3311

    @michaelflips3311

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rino7789 because 60 people live in those counties

  • @susfringgaming4018
    @susfringgaming4018 Жыл бұрын

    It's crazy how in America any town with less than 50,000 people is considered a small rural town. In Australia at my mum's hometown of 10,000 it's considered the largest town in the area, for us Australian a "small town" is literally like 300-1000 people

  • @RandomVidsforthought

    @RandomVidsforthought

    Жыл бұрын

    There's a population difference and some counties in some states barely have 1,000 or less than 1,000 people

  • @SkylordAh

    @SkylordAh

    Жыл бұрын

    And then you look at chinese or indian cities and theres cities with 5mil plus people youve never even heard of

  • @givemeRtxorgivemedeath

    @givemeRtxorgivemedeath

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the same here in the US. I consider anything less than 5k my 10k a small town. The largest town I lived in was 40k and I that's a medium size town.

  • @arnaubasulto4448

    @arnaubasulto4448

    Жыл бұрын

    Finnally somebody who thinks like that, my city has 7,800 people and everybody keeps calling it a town even thought it’s obviously a large city and soon to be if not already an empire. It even has five small villages annexed to it.

  • @arnaubasulto4448

    @arnaubasulto4448

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SkylordAh 5 million ain’t that much. Mexico city is 4 times that

  • @JJMcCullough
    @JJMcCullough Жыл бұрын

    Because they're in the minority, and often feel put-upon, I find that urban right-wingers and rural left-wingers often have some of the most flamboyantly exaggerated political opinions because they like to prove how much they don't "fit in here."

  • @tfeeeerr5730

    @tfeeeerr5730

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve experienced this first hand. I live in Los Angeles and the republicans here are far more extreme than most I’ve seen in the country

  • @abrahamlincoln937

    @abrahamlincoln937

    Жыл бұрын

    In the 1996 election, Clinton won many rural counties. For example, Clinton won Illinois by over 17% and he won urban Cook County but he also won most of the rural counties in the state. In fact Dole won several counties in the Chicago metro area like DuPage County. But in 2000, many rural counties flipped Republican, causing Bush to flip 11 states and narrowly win the election.

  • @theplanetsaturn_

    @theplanetsaturn_

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I'm in rural Florida (Polk County) and I'm just a typical conservative but my best friend who lives in the same area is increasingly growing more liberal in like crazy sjw ways just because he doesn't want to "conform to society" and frankly its beginning to get a bit annoying

  • @spiffygonzales5160

    @spiffygonzales5160

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah. I've never met a republican in a city who tried to "prove" they don't fit in.

  • @jake2011rt

    @jake2011rt

    Жыл бұрын

    A wild JJ sighting! I think you are spot on here. It seems that the feeling of being besieged and surrounded sort of crystallizes people's opinion in a form that is opposite from their opponents as possible. What is funny about this is that (in my experience), there is no siege. The minority has a sort of felt hostility where there is little concern about them on the part of their opponents. I live in rural TX, and the only political theater that goes on here is the product of the small minority of liberals. Conservatives here are not really interested in proving their bona fides unless they have been provoked to do so. When I used to live in an urban area, it definitely felt the same for the conservatives.

  • @Jonas_M_M
    @Jonas_M_M Жыл бұрын

    In Germany, where I am from, "The Urban/Rural Political Divide" is heavily characterized by the issue of transport. While urban voters tend to see individual transport as lavish and hold public transport up as communal, most rural voters depend on individual transport and rarely benefit from investments in public transport. Good video!

  • @philipmcniel4908

    @philipmcniel4908

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd say there's more similarity between Germany and the USA than meets the eye, then!

  • @chrisray9653

    @chrisray9653

    Жыл бұрын

    It's very similar in the United States. The more rural it is the bigger the vehicles get too.

  • @Dutchwheelchair

    @Dutchwheelchair

    Жыл бұрын

    isn't this divide also a east and west thing because east Germany is poor

  • @Jonas_M_M

    @Jonas_M_M

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Dutchwheelchair, east Germany is more rural - so indirectly.

  • @lukassahlander1106

    @lukassahlander1106

    Жыл бұрын

    Same in sweden aoultho the vehicles don’t get bigger. Sorry, bad english

  • @c4ptfr0zen80
    @c4ptfr0zen80 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like as time goes on, Mr. Beat is getting more and more based by realizing the similarities between the two parties (like on economics and foreign policy) but also not necessarily advocating for centrism as the answer. Very nice

  • @WinginWolf

    @WinginWolf

    Жыл бұрын

    Real centrism. Don’t buy into that stupid “Manchin”, Liz Cheney-Clinton type of centrism. That’s just corruption veiled to look like “working together”. Working together to screw US.

  • @c4ptfr0zen80

    @c4ptfr0zen80

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dylanjohnson4624 that’s understandable lol, but I also see communists and anarchists use the term as well a lot. Plus Lil B invented/popularized the term after all, and I don’t think he’s a communist or anything but he’s def not a fascist

  • @dylanjohnson4624

    @dylanjohnson4624

    Жыл бұрын

    @@c4ptfr0zen80 yeah

  • @c4ptfr0zen80

    @c4ptfr0zen80

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WinginWolf I agree that all of those people you listed suck, I would call all of those people right wing tho personally (even tho Clinton and Manchin are democrats). Basically my comment is saying that “the answer” is not somewhere between the democrats and republicans, it is outside of that limited framework that the US govt wants citizens to stay within. Centrism in the US scope of politics is just as bad as US liberalism and US conservatism. Something much more radical is needed, and luckily more and more Americans are coming to that conclusion (that conclusion being socialism, and I don’t mean Bernie and AOC although they’d definitely be an improvement at least)

  • @harpsmith8570

    @harpsmith8570

    Жыл бұрын

    centrism is the answer

  • @Leavus1
    @Leavus1 Жыл бұрын

    I grew up and still live in rural Missouri, and while I would describe myself as historically conservative, these last few years have thrown me for a loop. I don't even know what "conservative" means anymore. I tend to say I'm roughly libertarian now. But a lot of my gut-level, personal ideals (the value of work as an end in itself, personal responsibility, discipline, stickin' with your woman) remain "traditional." I just can't for the life of me figure out why that means I have to hate Mexicans.

  • @redjr2832

    @redjr2832

    Жыл бұрын

    because people with your views tend to hate Mexicans more than people with more left views

  • @crusader2112

    @crusader2112

    Жыл бұрын

    I don’t think most people who are against more looser immigration policies personally hate the people coming across the border, but it’s because large companies (who probably find think tanks) want the cheaper labor, and it’s not that most American workers are lazy, but it’s that they don’t want to work for extremely cheap wages. Bernie Sanders actually spoke on this until he sold out on the topic.

  • @Leavus1

    @Leavus1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@crusader2112 There may be room for good-faith discussion on that point, but protecting low-wage workers generally is not the rhetoric I hear. I tend to hear: "rapists, murderers, drug dealers, terrorists, or at best welfare burdens." I tend to hear things like "they hate America and its laws" and "they want to destroy this country." I would love to have a productive discussion about the economics of international labor supply and demand, and how best to find an immigration policy that works for the most people, but most "conservatives" I've talked about immigration with weren't interested.

  • @crusader2112

    @crusader2112

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Leavus1 Well, unfortunately most “conservativess” here the rhetoric and follow it, however, so does the left as well. Personally, I don’t hate average folk coming here. I do think that while they aren’t coming here and willing destroying America, Demographics do matter, and over time whether we like it or not. The culture changes over decades, for better or for worse.

  • @thebilldozer7970

    @thebilldozer7970

    Жыл бұрын

    I dropped the political party's and just identify as an American.

  • @crolandw
    @crolandw Жыл бұрын

    As a rural left leaning voter, I can tell you we definitely feel abandoned by the democrats. I met a top aid of our (Montana) democratic senator's (Jon Tester) campaign in 2018 at a teacher's conference who told me that his campaign joked about my community because they never felt the need to come here because we were too red 😡😡😡. I guarantee you that if they campaigned here, they'd do better than expected, but because they openly scorn us to our faces, many people here vote the other way.

  • @abandonedfragmentofhope5415

    @abandonedfragmentofhope5415

    Жыл бұрын

    As an suburban working class person in a very blue metro area they have definitely abandoned us too. They don't even campaign here they just expect us to vote for them. They don't care about us one bit. But they know they can manipulate us with identity politics.

  • @sinorawright2799

    @sinorawright2799

    Жыл бұрын

    I can definitely understand then why they vote as they do. However, at this point in time, the Republican Party aren’t for anyone but themselves. Once in control urban areas and rural areas will suffer greatly. You see. The Republican Party has the same elite rich people in their party and if given control, a.k.a. total power, they will crush working people. And at are core, we Americans, urban and rural, are working people. We just want to take care of our families and struggle less. That’s what we all have in common and I believe together we can at least push for that change. But staying divided on other issues that don’t matter will keep us from doing that and that’s what both parties are counting on.

  • @ugoewulonu4936

    @ugoewulonu4936

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting take Craig. So when you say abandoned do you mean in terms of policy or that they don’t come to your area?

  • @justingiese1746

    @justingiese1746

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sinorawright2799 has someone also would be considered rural, I know that the GOP is also controlled by the elite. The issue is we have no other choice. Vote for the elites who treat me like a human (GOP) or vote for the elites that attacks and degrades me (dems).

  • @sinorawright2799

    @sinorawright2799

    Жыл бұрын

    @@justingiese1746 ok, I get it. But If you look at facts and not feelings, then the trend would be that they talk a good game but don’t back it up. Take the so called tax cuts the Republicans said was for the middle and lower class. If you believe their words then they are correct however if you look at reality such as, people are still struggling, paychecks are still not enough to pay bills and don’t mention the inability to save, then they are liars. The tax cuts took place over 4 years ago, why haven’t the working class seen any benefits yet? Corporations’ had their taxes cut to 21% from 35%. Tell me why do they need a tax break when they are making lots of money. And don’t say trickle down effect because they’ve been saying that since Reagan was in office. If that worked then we working class folks should have seen benefits by now. Also, with the exception of President Obama, they were in control of the government for over 50 years and yes I am saying that President Clinton was a Republican disguised as a Democrat. If they are the best for working people then why haven’t the working people progressed? We have stagnant wages among other things that they refuse to address. So tell me, How do they help the working class? Neither are doing what they could but the Republican Party is the party of corporations and wealthy people, and if anyone thinks that they will make the economy better for the working class then he/she is historically wrong.

  • @Unemployedsmoker
    @Unemployedsmoker Жыл бұрын

    As someone who lives in the south it feels unbearable at times when so many things get politicized. I appreciate you bringing attention to this, have a wonderful day!

  • @annonymous6827

    @annonymous6827

    Жыл бұрын

    What gets politicized, uniquely in the south?

  • @h0tb0i74

    @h0tb0i74

    Жыл бұрын

    @@annonymous6827 idk in the deep south politics ain too too heavy

  • @ceasarsalazar5940

    @ceasarsalazar5940

    Жыл бұрын

    @@h0tb0i74 They are- it's just covert instead of overt politics.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, almost everything is political, but I know what you mean. Thanks for the kind words!

  • @josephj.6478

    @josephj.6478

    Жыл бұрын

    @@h0tb0i74 can confirm. I live in central Alabama and in the cities politics aren't really that prominent. Local/city elections swing to whoever is better at campaigning and is more about who voters think will better their city more. Alabama is primarily republican on state/federal elections because such a huge amount of our state is rural. Some counties add up to around 5,000ish people, sometimes less.

  • @angelskaixo5188
    @angelskaixo5188 Жыл бұрын

    You hit the nail on the head. Im 32, I lived rurally my whole life, and I never felt the government was out to get me, so much as it doesn't care about rural issues. I don't really hold value in political parties, I just try to vote for who I think will do best for everyone, rural and urban.

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    Жыл бұрын

    What do you think of Jan 6th and the 2017 Raid on Yemen?

  • @jakelee7083

    @jakelee7083

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christiandauz3742 What do you think of the failed extraction from Afghanistan and the cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline?

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jakelee7083 US never learnt anything from Vietnam and needs to get away from oil ASAP Space colonization is key to keeping current population alive and thriving as well as provide renewable energy! If I was Biden I would have used Jan 6th to justify executing the entire Republikkkan Party and the Far-Right voters!!!

  • @_blank-_

    @_blank-_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jakelee7083 The war in Afghanistan wasted trillions of dollars so I'm glad the US pulled out of it, no matter how messy it was (the occupation was messier). As for the Keystone pipeline, there's something called climate change and if we realistically want to limit it, we shouldn't encourage more oil consumption.

  • @hamsterfromabove8905

    @hamsterfromabove8905

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jakelee7083 A vote for a MAGA candidate is a vote for facism.

  • @jakethesnake9340
    @jakethesnake9340 Жыл бұрын

    I lived and grew up in a rural town and it's "interesting" to see these things trickle down in local elections and town taxes. As kids from my town have the choice of going to two high schools, one being a large public school and the other being a much smaller semi-private academy that is rated way higher academically. Originally the second school was $700 dollars more expensive, so the older folks in the town, tried to pass the vote saying that everyone should go to school one, because "it was the better school." Then when the big school built some new buildings it become more expensive and suddenly there was a flip in their opinions and now the smaller school was "the definitive better option for all kids" and tried to pass a vote saying all kids should go to that school. In the past twenty years the town has become more popular for new residents because of the school system and property values were already up x4 before the crazy real restate boom. People are happy to have their home values go up but still vote against anything that raises taxes besides the police and fire department. A vote to fix up our super old and shitty baseball field would have taxes up three cents per $1000 paid in taxes last year and it barely passed. I think traditional values should favor something like kids playing baseball. People also complain that the town is too busy now, because the population has grown from 3,000 to 5,000 people, but what they should do is sell their house for x5 what they bought it for and go move somewhere else like they are describing.

  • @c.t.8614
    @c.t.8614 Жыл бұрын

    I've always been fascinated by the Rural-Urban divide.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too. :) It's really only been a divide, at least politically, for around 100 years!

  • @robertgalindo5979

    @robertgalindo5979

    Жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat Are you sure? I wonder how much of a urban-rural divide of 100+ years ago was concealed by back then that political parties had both a liberal and conservative wing. The urban-rural divide goes all the way back to the epic of gilgamesh afterall.

  • @WiloPolis03

    @WiloPolis03

    Жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat Tbf American politics changed a lot post-Depression

  • @MrBigTrey

    @MrBigTrey

    Жыл бұрын

    Education plays a huge role in that. Rural areas just don't have the funding urban areas do. In America, your quality of education depends on property values. The more educated tend to lean left, whereas the undereducated skew further and further to the right.

  • @philipmcniel4908

    @philipmcniel4908

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrBigTrey I'm skeptical of this (admittedly common) explanation for a few reasons: First, because the correlation between education funding and education outcomes is not absolute (e.g. homeschoolers spend much less per child and yet have superior educational outcomes on average, with the 50th percentile of homeschoolers being roughly equivalent to the 70th or 75th percentile of public school students). I suspect that even among public schools, where the correlation is much more strong, it's confounded by local demographics and values: If your school is well-funded, it's probably because it's in a wealthier neighborhood where children are more likely to be raised in a culture that values academic and economic achievement, rather than a culture where they're raised to focus mainly on their high-school athletic achievement. Second, because people in rural areas effectively have two different kinds of education going on at the same time: An abstract academic "when-am-I-ever-going-to-use-this" education in school, and then a practical hands-on education that takes place on the farm or in the woods after school. For instance, rather than cramming for an A+ like an upper (or upper-middle) class suburban high schooler, they may work hard enough in school for a solid B+ average and then spend the rest of their time taking care of 4-H animals, and make hundreds or even thousands of dollars each year for their effort _sometimes even before starting high school._ Alternatively, they may get a job working for an acquaintance in the logging industry before finishing high school. Because of this second point, people raised in this kind of culture tend to value common sense over (or at least equal to) academic "book knowledge," and perceive theoretical explanations that are divorced from the practicalities of the "real world" as overthinking. (One local man I know got his Ph. D. in engineering, worked for many years as a professor, and then retired to run his own lumber mill for a number of years. When volunteering to teach the local high school physics class, he would sometimes follow up a complex calculation by saying, "...But the most important thing to remember is still 'Righty-tighty, lefty-loosey.'" He may have been academically accomplished, but as a native of rural America, he still had this inculcated cultural value that your learning is only as valuable as your real-world competence with matters of practical value.) This perception of a dichotomy between theory and practice explains several right-wing views held by rural people: On paper, communism looks good; in practice, it's always led to totalitarianism. On paper, decreasing domestic production of fossil fuels, farm goods, and lumber looks environmentally friendly; in practice, it just means importing those products from countries with even less environmental regulation while putting domestic rural people out of work. On paper, food or housing shortages look like they could be fixed by the government giving away those necessities for free (or more accurately, by having them come out of taxes); in practice, those shortages can only be solved by producing more of those things, not by redistributing the ones that already exist, and the government doesn't actually create the things it gives away (e.g. TANF doesn't generate food; only farms do that). And the list goes on.

  • @LeftoverPat
    @LeftoverPat Жыл бұрын

    The way you brought the world stage to tie it all together was perfect. We often live in a bubble in the US and forget that it's a world problem and not a Republican vs. Democrat issue at its root

  • @dguy0386

    @dguy0386

    Жыл бұрын

    it probably started as a American Republican vs Democrat issue and spread, due to the influence America has on the rest of the world

  • @RS-hs5lq

    @RS-hs5lq

    Жыл бұрын

    I was born and raised in Spain, lived my first 13 years under Franco's regime. My parents grew up during the Spanish Civil War. I immigrated to the US (legally, under the "quota system,") in 1970, became a US citizen as soon as I was eligible and have lived in the US since then. Even after all these years, I still find it startling just how ignorant (as in not knowledgeable) the average American is about the rest of the world, about history (heck they don't even know their own history, let alone world history), about the political landscape in the rest of the world. And that is indeed a big problem, not just because it shows that the US is not the only place where these issues are at play but because things are not always the same everywhere either and that the US does not have a monopoly on how things can or should be done. Ours are not the only solutions and/or approaches that can work well for a society. This issue of rural vs urban with rural typically leaning right while urban leans left is very interesting for me personally as I grew up in as rural an area as you could imagine and that pattern/dynamic doesn't necessarily apply where I come from. I grew up in a house that was at least a mile from the closest house. These were very thinly populated, very small villages. My family had no car, no phone, no TV until I was 7 years old and even then, there were exactly TWO channels that operated only for a few hours a day. Yet, I come from a long line of quite rebellious, much more leftist leaning folks (going back for many hundreds of years) than even what is viewed as the left here. And I believe that is true for other areas of Europe. As many Europeans will tell you, they don't see the US as having much, if any, leftist representation in this current US government. To quote a European commenter I saw recently on another video (having to do with SCOTUS overturning Roe V Wade). "The US doesn't have a left, they have a right, a hard right and the center with a few Democrats being left of center." I think where I come from the "divide" was more along class lines, with the lower working classes typically leaning left, some radically left and the upper classes (there wasn't much of a middle class back then in Spain, but those few in the middle class would typically go along with the upper classes politically as their aim was to make into the upper class ... some day) leaning right and in many cases radically right, that's why we had the "Falange," among other extreme right wing factions. And even when most of these lower working class folks were not particularly well educated (as in very little or no formal education, significant numbers were illiterate, at least prior to the Second Republic and the Spanish Civil War), they were nevertheless what I call "politically savvy," meaning they KNEW and understood which end of the political spectrum would be more beneficial for their situation and which end of the political spectrum would advocate and work for THEIR interests ... and it sure would not have been the right. I think that is part of the problem in the US right now, those who have been left behind, the working class, the poor, no longer understand this and they have been manipulated by politicians, most effectively by the Reps (at least in my opinion) to vote against their own interests and to support policies that do nothing to help them at best, and in many cases do a whole lot to make their situation even worse.

  • @Fater4511

    @Fater4511

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RS-hs5lq France has a national ban on abortion after 16 weeks, that's much more conservative than what America has. we have no ban on abortion nationally and most states only a ban at viability which is like 22-24 weeks depending on the state you live in .

  • @RS-hs5lq

    @RS-hs5lq

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Fater4511 That all may be true, but that is just one country, smaller in size than TX, with about 67 million people and that is just one of the many issues. I would have to check into it as I am not intimately familiar with their law, but I would be interested in knowing all the details (as, usually the devil is in the details). For instance, while their national ban may be at 16 weeks, there may be exceptions in that law that allow for abortion in later stages under certain situations, etc. I am guessing if there is a specific situation where the life of the mother is at risk and this happens after that 16 weeks, that law probably makes exceptions for that. So in order to make a fair comparison, you need to look at all those details. Even when I was born (in the late 50s) in Spain (when it comes to abortion one of the most conservative and restrictive countries back then), if the mother's life was at risk and the situation dictated a choice had to be made about which life you will try to save, the MOTHER (not the child) always took precedence. Because they understood all the complexities and knew that at the end of the day, saving the mother is (usually) most beneficial for everyone involved, If that mother already has other children (back then it was not unusual for a woman to have 6 or more children), who will care for the children already born that now are motherless? The father? He probably has to work from sunrise to sunset 7 days a week to feed his family. The other 'women folk' in her family? They probably already have a bunch of children of their own. And, of course, the upper classes could and would have access to abortion, whether it was legal or not, as is always the case. But a more salient point for me here is, that while they may ban abortion after 16 weeks (which, of course is as arbitrary as any other you might pick), NO woman living in France has to worry about being denied access to abortion if she has decided to have one. EVERY woman in France has access to legal, safe, medically performed abortions and doesn't have to go travelling to another state (country) or fear prosecution in her own because she seeks or obtains an abortion. Of course I can't speak for anyone else but I would be perfectly OK with that more conservative abortion ban France has over the reality that a significant percentage of women in this country will have no access to medically safe abortions. Because you do understand that those abortions will happen, right? One way or another they will happen. There was an excellent article in The Guardian a couple of days ago, first published in American Scholar, by Tamara Dean I believe the author is, that went into the history of abortion in America. Fantastic article, I highly recommended it to anyone who wants to learn more about this issue. In the long run, probably just as many of those unborn will die and for sure more women will with these extreme bans, which means ANY children they might have had if they had a safe abortion and lived on will also never be, so in the long term, is this really what will save the most "lives?" And let's not even get into the consequences of forcing women to go through a pregnancy they would have wanted to end. That's a whole 'nother layer to this issue but we Americans are not big on complexity and nuance, we tend to look at things as this or that, right or wrong, moral or immoral, good or evil. If only life were that simple.

  • @bryanice3313

    @bryanice3313

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RS-hs5lq you are wrong, the dems are very liberal on social issues, most of eruope dont even have gay marriage. whats right wing about a pro trans party? and also ask eny eruopean, are u ok wiht ur country becoming only 30% european ? most of them will say no, most of them according to all the data dont even like any type of diversity at all, so a lot of european laws speically on imigration are to thwe right of america but somehow america needs to acceept whatever the left wants ? when u came to america in the 70s this still was a 88% white country , now the left changed it all, so sorry i no longer care hwta that sides wants

  • @Riley_Mundt
    @Riley_Mundt8 ай бұрын

    The Urban/Rural Divide was one of the primary reasons the Electoral College was created, and for most of the nation's history, it worked. Now, not so much.

  • @johnweber4577

    @johnweber4577

    3 ай бұрын

    Ironically, it helped out the urban areas upon the Founding with 90% of the country still being rural. Now, of course, it is the other way around.

  • @LHydock719
    @LHydock719 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent job capturing the nuances of rural America by camping out in front of a Dollar General. It pains me how accurately symbolic that shot is.

  • @nathansimpson5721
    @nathansimpson5721 Жыл бұрын

    I grew up in St. Louis, Missouri. We often talk about the “white flight” here, because in the 50’s-70’s there was a combination of racist laws and racist housing policies that pushed African Americans into areas with less public funding and worse amenities. Any time African Americans would fight to change these policies, white people would leave the city in large numbers, forming a strong white (largely Christian) suburban culture near St. Louis.

  • @grmpEqweer

    @grmpEqweer

    Жыл бұрын

    Just a snippet here: I was in kindergarten when my parents were living in government housing. At first, we kids went to the nice school up the street. Six weeks in, we were suddenly made to ride a longer distance to go to a crappier school further away. I don't know if that's because some of us were black, or all of us were low income. The new school was not as good and the teacher was mean.

  • @thecivilwarfiles777

    @thecivilwarfiles777

    Жыл бұрын

    White flight if people leave, gentrification if they move in. Which shall it be?

  • @rebeccasplain5429

    @rebeccasplain5429

    Жыл бұрын

    I live in the fringe of the STL metro area and you are spot on about how it went down here in St. Louis.

  • @rarecandy3445

    @rarecandy3445

    Жыл бұрын

    same thing in chicago my g.

  • @JaleelKing

    @JaleelKing

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thecivilwarfiles777 They're two completely different things that, both, have different outcomes when it comes to the neighborhoods, schooling, services, and taxing. It's not hard to see what happens to a city or community when these things happen. So, there is no choice.

  • @professional.commentator
    @professional.commentator Жыл бұрын

    I'm so happy you made this video. Usually a lot of people just mention the rural/urban divide in passing and they don't go deeper into the subject matter. I've lived in cities my whole life but I've visited rural and suburban areas from time to time and the contrast is stark. It feels like I'm in another world sometimes.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    Times are so bad right now for rural America. It's so troubling to me. Thanks for the kind words.

  • @ryanfriedman4329

    @ryanfriedman4329

    Жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat I also have been interested in split ticket voting. Just in my lifetime (21 years) in the United States Senate, the 4 senators from the Dakotas and 1 senator from Nebraska were Democrats and Rhode Island and Vermont had a republican senator (although Jim Jeffords switched party affiliation in May 2001). North Dakota, South Dakota, and Nebraska are solidly Republican on the presidential level, and Rhode Island and Vermont are solidly Democratic states on the presidential level.

  • @FabEdits2258

    @FabEdits2258

    Жыл бұрын

    Well I live in a urban area and vote republican. So I’m kind of the rare people.

  • @yobamajoe2595

    @yobamajoe2595

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FabEdits2258 You’re not really rare. It’s more that you’re just out numbered.

  • @papaicebreakerii8180

    @papaicebreakerii8180

    Жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat it really is. I live in a rural area. Lived here my whole life. And it just gets worse and worse every year. More people leave, more buildings are left abandoned, and more drugs and crime fill the community. Everyone here just wants out concerns to be heard for once. Until that happens, nobody out here is going to take any type of politics seriously.

  • @szymonmirek6389
    @szymonmirek6389 Жыл бұрын

    In Poland Rural/Urban divide is very ingrained in our culture. To the point that people from cities have a slur mildly similair to the Nword for people from rural areas "wiesniak". We learn about the divide in school with a whole book we have to read "wesele" by Stanisław Wyspiański. Especially because 40% of people live in rural areas here

  • @TheVistula

    @TheVistula

    3 ай бұрын

    ,,Wieśniak" is not a slur, such role are playing words like ,,wsiur" or ,,wsiok". Many people from big cities just consider people feom rural areas as poor and stupid just because they are from countryside.

  • @rsly2000
    @rsly2000 Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the information being given in a neutral way with plenty of modern analogies. I was surprised to learn that the places suffering economically would vote for Republicans when it seems that Democrats are more eager to try and distribute aid packages, it was quite the opposite of what I expected!

  • @joespice785

    @joespice785

    Жыл бұрын

    The problem is throwing money at a problem doesn't fix everything. Such things are only temporary and the economic situation still sucks. Communities die out because there no opportunity for jobs or tax money to maintain infrastructure. That's why the new deal was so great for the little man and gave Democrats a boost. It gave a lot of working class people jobs, and those jobs no longer exist.

  • @shadowolf7023

    @shadowolf7023

    Жыл бұрын

    Since rural voters are more traditional the beliefs line up with being your own person and working for your own stuff which does not really work well with goverment aid. Another factor could be rural voters thinking that aid mainly goes to urban people who are broke not rural people.

  • @blessedveteran

    @blessedveteran

    Жыл бұрын

    They vote against their best interest. They are manipulated by lies and don't spend the time to research the record of their candidates.

  • @painvillegaming4119

    @painvillegaming4119

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shadowolf7023 I mean the argument could be said that it truth

  • @alemoncitrus8285

    @alemoncitrus8285

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, when you're poor, angry and miserable, it's a lot easier to be convinced by strongmen figures like Trump that they'll come and fix that for you and also to take out your anger on out-groups like immigrants or black people, since the vast majority of these people are white and they interact less with these out-groups, so it's easier to scapegoat them. When these people vote Republican, they're shooting themselves in the foot, but that's not the narrative prominent Republicans are feeding them

  • @theethicalhacker7271
    @theethicalhacker7271 Жыл бұрын

    Grew up in the intercity, rural and eventually suburbs. Parents were military. I can say there's a lot more similarities than people notice but everything is politicized.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    A very good point

  • @youngnorwegianpatriot9028
    @youngnorwegianpatriot9028 Жыл бұрын

    In Norway, there is certainly political differences between urban and rural areas. Urban areas are more likely to vote for environmentalist, socialist and liberal (liberal conservative included) parties. Rural areas are more likely to vote for agrarian and christian democratic parties, as well as parties often seen as more populist. Social democrats seems to not be so much affected.

  • @karankapoor2701

    @karankapoor2701

    Жыл бұрын

    But isn't ixlamist on a rise in Norway , look what muslim refugees did in a sweden

  • @luke_cohen1

    @luke_cohen1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@karankapoor2701 The Islamic population in most European nations usually only make up around 5-10% of the population at most and they, like most immigrant populations, assimilate within a generation of being within their own country. The hard part is how you assimilate those that just moved in but we've been struggling with that question for over a century already.

  • @karankapoor2701

    @karankapoor2701

    Жыл бұрын

    @@luke_cohen1 they can never integrate , look at sweden and france , you can't educate those people who live and think in medivial era practices

  • @luke_cohen1

    @luke_cohen1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@karankapoor2701 Explain that to the millions of successful immigrants from the Middle East throughout Western Society. In fact, I would say that the West is usually getting their best and brightest since war isn't good for those that want success and genocide doesn't help minorities in the slightest. Hell, the owner of Chobani Yogurt is a Kurdish man from Turkey that doesn't even know his own birthday due to his parents poverty but now runs one of largest yogurt companies on the planet. Not to mention that the deadliest mass shooting in world history was committed by a Norwegian Domestic Terrorist and known White Supremacist. There are exceptions to this rule (Cologne, Germany anyone?) and no group is perfect but you cannot broadbrush such a large population of human beings. We're are simply too complex a species to do so.

  • @enqrbit

    @enqrbit

    Жыл бұрын

    @@karankapoor2701 There are no islamist parties in any of the Nordic countries. In Sweden everyone votes for the established parties regardless of background. Muslims as well, there have been muslim members of parliament in the conservative party, a muslim minister from the environmentalist party

  • @CStone-xn4oy
    @CStone-xn4oy Жыл бұрын

    I have always hypothesized that a lower population density in rural area has forced people who live there to be more reliant on themselves or close family and friends. Meanwhile a higher population density in cities actually presents more of a threat to people who live there (directly and indirectly) resulting in those people favoring more government involvement to (in theory) create a more orderly society. I think this may be part of the reason. In any case the partisanship has gotten out of hand and neither major political party is worthy of support.

  • @_blank-_

    @_blank-_

    Жыл бұрын

    Mmmh, I really don't know who to support between a crony theocratic party denying the biggest threat human civilization is currently facing (climate change) and some boring centrists.

  • @CStone-xn4oy

    @CStone-xn4oy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_blank-_ What we have are two corrupt parties who both want to keep problems unsolved so that they can constantly run on the false promise that they will actually solve these problems. Neither party can accurately be called "centrist".

  • @_blank-_

    @_blank-_

    Жыл бұрын

    Also, your theory doesn't make sense considering that rural people are more scared of other people than urban people, the reason why they vote for the party of "law and order" (except for the rich). It's not because we see others as a threat but because we believe that problems are better solved collectively rather than each of us alone. Also, city living requires big projects (transportation, housing) which require lots of investments so yeah, people aren't going to vote for a party that doesn't want to invest money in these.

  • @CStone-xn4oy

    @CStone-xn4oy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_blank-_ Your understanding is partial. People in rural areas are used to taking care of their own problems themselves or with the support of the handful of neighbors they have. Therefore people in rural areas are more suspicious of government interference. They expect government to maintain security and stability but beyond that government should stay out of their lives and stop stealing their hard earned money (taxes). The part that you got right is that urban problems typically require solutions that individual people could not reasonable solve and so urban problems must be tackled with collective action. Neither approach is wrong, they are simply products of environment. The trouble is that both parties have discovered that if they never actually solve the issues their constituents face, they can keep tricking enough of their constituents to keep voting for them on the promise that this time they will solve the problem. Until the parties are willing to find compromise and common ground, no problems of note will be solved. The parties won't do this because the portion of American society that is still not jaded enough to vote wants the two parties to "own the other side". As such we are in constant gridlock...which is historically a situation that typically leads to the executive taking on more power.

  • @bncthiccboi7552

    @bncthiccboi7552

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_blank-_ that’s so funny you claim to be from a city but ik damn well your just some suburban kid from the way you talk. You’ve never had to walk women to their car because the evil fucks in the city. You’ve never seen a homeless guy assault someone. No matter how much you say we don’t care about these people ur wrong look how much money Cali gives to homeless people and they are still homeless. Taking more of the money I traded hours of my life for to give to others is something a lot of people don’t agree with

  • @rougenarwhal8378
    @rougenarwhal8378 Жыл бұрын

    not sure why anyone would associate a failed business man with his name on a tower with working class folk in rural areas

  • @spacetoast7783

    @spacetoast7783

    Жыл бұрын

    People feel like he is able to voice their concerns. That's basically all it takes it this point

  • @truthalonetriumphs6572

    @truthalonetriumphs6572

    Ай бұрын

    Because he's a conman

  • @Someone-mv5rg
    @Someone-mv5rg Жыл бұрын

    There are two notable exceptions to this trend that pop into my head right away. First nearly the entire state of Vermont as a pretty rural area that seems to go against the rural=Republican assumption that many have, even hosting the state level Vermont Progressive Party that’s further left then most Democrats. Second being Staten island in being the only party of NYC that constantly votes Republican despite being near the center of the largest metro area.

  • @TempleofSolomon

    @TempleofSolomon

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s because Vermont was taken over by New Yorkers in the 70-80s

  • @person3070

    @person3070

    Жыл бұрын

    Staten Island makes sense It looks less like NYC and more like Nebraska But I do not understand Vermont

  • @fredrickfraser1659

    @fredrickfraser1659

    Жыл бұрын

    The entire region of New England is an exception

  • @ohshiastheres

    @ohshiastheres

    Жыл бұрын

    @@person3070 It breaks that trend because its highly college educated compared to every other mostly rural state.

  • @ASQ1Fan

    @ASQ1Fan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chemicalfrankie1030 Staten Island ain't a suburb LOL. It's part of the 5 boros with its own heavy rail and walkable areas.

  • @StainedGlassStories
    @StainedGlassStories Жыл бұрын

    I love how there was a Dollar General in the background of one of the rural shots. As a resident of Minnesota I can confirm the presence of Dollar Generals in random rural fields.

  • @jake2011rt

    @jake2011rt

    Жыл бұрын

    It's no different in Texas my friend.

  • @AdamSmith-gs2dv

    @AdamSmith-gs2dv

    Жыл бұрын

    They are everywhere in rural Tennessee. Makes sense because Dollar General is a Tennessee company

  • @josephb.1425

    @josephb.1425

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn't know they existed until I moved to rural Oregon.

  • @jeremyd1298

    @jeremyd1298

    Жыл бұрын

    Dollar General Corp. knows people are struggling economically, financially, and mentally, especially in these rural areas. So they slap a ton of them up and people go in there and buy junk food and pop. Depressed, hopeless, and bored people tend to eat more junk food and Dollar General capitalizes on this. I know cause I'm one of those people and I go in there and get junk food lol. A sign of the times economically. An ominous one. Anyone else feel this is a reason so many DG's are popping up in rural, economically struggling areas? (perhaps I'm wrong, I don't know)

  • @FourScoreSevenYearsAgo

    @FourScoreSevenYearsAgo

    Жыл бұрын

    *They’ve infested Arkansas, too*

  • @xrandy11
    @xrandy11 Жыл бұрын

    One note, a lot of those counties that are shown are your maps as being red or blue would more actually be represented as being purple. A 52% to 48% result is very common.

  • @VioletIsnt
    @VioletIsnt Жыл бұрын

    6:18 man i love how unbiased your videos are, you don't say that they're wrong or that they're right, you just say what they think and that's it. Good job!

  • @lincolngaffney9785
    @lincolngaffney9785 Жыл бұрын

    Another thing that has interested me coming from Utah is that even though many places in Utah, my local town included have grown dramatically from a farming town of 5,000 in 1980 to a suburb of over 50,000 they have stayed very republican.

  • @grmpEqweer

    @grmpEqweer

    Жыл бұрын

    Utah is very...um...Mormon, as well as people for whom large bunches of Mormons are ok. So reeeeally Christian people?

  • @justanamericandoggo6725

    @justanamericandoggo6725

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds nice, can't say the same about my town sadly.

  • @lucaslevinsky8802

    @lucaslevinsky8802

    Жыл бұрын

    Isn't that because of the LDS church fertility rate?

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    I would guess that your town is much more purple than it used to be, meaning it probably still votes Republican, but not as dramatically as before.

  • @travisdejong2354

    @travisdejong2354

    Жыл бұрын

    It's interesting to look at Utah as a whole. When I was a kid, it was the most Republican state giving huge margins to the Republican presidential candidate. But now it's definitely dropped down the list. More out of Staters are moving in and changing the politics but the outcomes still are largely the same.

  • @Jrookus
    @Jrookus Жыл бұрын

    If suburbs are the last hope for America...we really do live in the end times

  • @gguerard
    @gguerard Жыл бұрын

    Matt, Thanks again for an excellent video. I lived most of my life in the suburbs so that is where I'm most comfortable. I like the middle road.

  • @georgevan2589

    @georgevan2589

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. As a person who has lived in small to medium sized towns (2,000 to 200,000) most of my life, I feel more comfortable living in the suburbs of larger cities (over 1 million) than the cities themselves. It feels more like a "bubble" living in a suburb (like a mid-sized city) but with probably more diversity.

  • @muzicman171
    @muzicman171 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video Mr Beat. One aspect about the rural/urban divides I think you failed to mention tho: educational opportunities. Almost all notable colleges and universities are in urban areas (and in many cities, the university is at the literal and figurative city centers)- those without at least a bachelors degree tend to stay in the same hometown area they grew up in. Those with a degree tend to travel more and thus are exposed to new ideologies and cultures. Just some food for thought.

  • @Magge67

    @Magge67

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah can’t believe education wasn’t brought up. It is incredibly important.

  • @mus6926

    @mus6926

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah because whos going to build a university which very few people will attend

  • @fark69

    @fark69

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think it's as important as you say though. The vast majority of Americans (around 70%) don't graduate college. So, you have to keep in mind that the majority of Americans don't have that experience you're talking about.

  • @fark69

    @fark69

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mus6926 Dartmouth is in a rural area it is obviously a highly competitive school

  • @Taylors_Tunes

    @Taylors_Tunes

    Жыл бұрын

    A solid point.

  • @caseclosed9342
    @caseclosed9342 Жыл бұрын

    It’s not only an American thing it’s even common in authoritarian countries. My wife is from rural China, and she has more in common with my rural American grandparents than I (as a suburban American) do.

  • @zaybskii3634
    @zaybskii3634 Жыл бұрын

    It amazes me every time i pay $1k for a semester of a class and then Mr. Beat covers the whole thing in a 15 minute KZread video

  • @painvillegaming4119

    @painvillegaming4119

    Жыл бұрын

    School system is flawed

  • @CorporateShill

    @CorporateShill

    Жыл бұрын

    @@painvillegaming4119 you’re in high school. University/college is different

  • @painvillegaming4119

    @painvillegaming4119

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CorporateShill is there a difference it is completely costly and teaches stuff that anybody now a day can learn off the internet

  • @SEC_Sports_Zone

    @SEC_Sports_Zone

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CorporateShill is it though? sure, you're getting lots of information but youre' also getting yourself into a ton of student debt and getting a traditional education most of the time isnt gonna you make you many millions.

  • @Dollapfin

    @Dollapfin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@painvillegaming4119 umm just wait til you pay 4 years of college 4 years of rent and 4 years of overpriced junk food

  • @jensraab2902
    @jensraab2902 Жыл бұрын

    I'm not American so not sure if you'd be interested in me taking the survey. Anyway, just wanted to give you kudos for how seamless the mid-sentence transitions sound when you switch from urban to rural areas. It really sounds as if you said these sentences in one breath when in reality you must have recorded all these sentence fragments hours (day?) apart. Well done!

  • @bobbymiller7242
    @bobbymiller7242 Жыл бұрын

    It's incredible to me how effectively you turned your sponsorship into a comedy sketch

  • @TheFederalist11
    @TheFederalist11 Жыл бұрын

    My home county of Luzerne in Pennsylvania had historically been a predominantly Democratic county. By 2016 & 2020, it suddenly flipped Republican. Local politics for the most part have been Republican, but nationally had been Democratic. By the time Trump came along, it appeared as if the county had shifted right nationally, despite already having been so locally.

  • @Anthony-db7cs

    @Anthony-db7cs

    Жыл бұрын

    Other than some red counties in the south center of PA, nearly all of PA state population growth is in Philly or its blue surrounding counties.

  • @crusader2112

    @crusader2112

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Anthony-db7cs So a blue city and it’s surrounding suburbs, that’s not a unique thing, that’s pretty common, since most major cities vote democrat.

  • @Anthony-db7cs

    @Anthony-db7cs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@crusader2112 obviously. I’m referring to population growth in the state. Rural PA is mostly declining and Philly is the main place growing, including suburbs outside the city.

  • @crusader2112

    @crusader2112

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Anthony-db7cs Okay

  • @danielmitchell1795

    @danielmitchell1795

    Жыл бұрын

    I grew up in Grays Harbor County, WA. The last time it went Red was for Herbert Hoover in 1928, then Trump won in both 2016 and 2020

  • @ghintz2156
    @ghintz2156 Жыл бұрын

    I feel triggered as a Louisianian that you don't add "or parishes" after you say "counties". Everyone's just jealous because we refuse to let go of Napoleon down here.

  • @parker9012

    @parker9012

    Жыл бұрын

    He should have also added or boroughs for us Alaskans, because we just have to be different than the lower 48

  • @davidkelly4210

    @davidkelly4210

    Жыл бұрын

    @@parker9012 different? You just copied New York.

  • @jimonaldo3108

    @jimonaldo3108

    Жыл бұрын

    I too felt extremely offended when the slight differences of my area to the overwhelming majority were ignored. Whatever shall I do with all this jealousy that I feel to be included in the conversation?

  • @PremierCCGuyMMXVI

    @PremierCCGuyMMXVI

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidkelly4210 NY has counties, boroughs are really just a NYC thing

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah dang, sorry to leave the parishes out.

  • @tonyschmitz1997
    @tonyschmitz1997 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve thought on this a lot myself recently especially after seeing the voting maps the last two elections. You touched on a lot of the same thoughts I’ve had. Something I would add is I see rural populations being more into small government cause they have this mentality of independence and perseverance that was needed to endure rural life in the past. It was hard (and in some ways still is) and they had to do it on their own. Cities have to be able to care for many different demographics and trying to live communally and relying on government to provide and encourage that.

  • @jatterhog

    @jatterhog

    Жыл бұрын

    Rural people like small government because big government will not bring them any major change. The money goes to “infrastructure” (read: cities) and “living wages” (everyone’s on salary, retired, self-employed or unemployed anyways so the benefits are small). This is the perspective where I’m from at least. Either I pay x% in taxes and get little back, or i pay (x+y)% in taxes and get significantly less than y% in return.

  • @alexanderfretheim5720

    @alexanderfretheim5720

    Жыл бұрын

    There is some of that, but here's the other side of it: EVERY TIME AND EVERY PLACE where conservatives have been competitive in the big cities, and it doesn't matter whether you're talking 1960's LA & Boston or Singapore, 1990's Orange County, or Seoul, Singapore & Hong Kong now, social conservatism was a major part of it. The most dangerous lie in American politics today is that urban people are always and would always be socially liberal or libertarian, and it's a believable lie because when we think of a socially liberal person the image that comes to mind is almost always a well-dressed "man about town" who lives in a stylish high-rise apartment, whereas when we think of a socially conservative person we think of an old farmer who lives in a small town, but it's actually the opposite of what works politically and, when believed, this lie leads to conservatives becoming utterly insufferable to the people who live in the cities, which distorts democracy in to a politics of division and hate. In truth, city people WILL NEVER accept the kind of individualism that leads to libertarianism, because the bigger the city, the less your own efforts and ability determine how well you do. Cities are the land of "nope": complex social environments where relationships, reputation and social connection are key to success, and as a result, are jealously guarded, and over time, that creates a world where people simply can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps. No job for you, no business for you, no meeting for you, in fact, we won't even let you in to the nicest night clubs or restaurants or let you rent the nicest apartments if we don't "like" you. And that matters, because everything that happens in a city is fundamentally about working with other people. Cities ARE however, in the religion business, and have been since the first great temple complexes were built in Ancient Egypt 6000 years ago. Almost all your great cathedrals, great temples, great seminaries, great schools of meditation, Protestant megachurches, great synagogues, et cetera, are located in big cities. Big cities are also a place where your actions effect other people profoundly and in ways that can be difficult to understand, and that makes "throw the bums in jail" an attractive political rallying cry, and creates actually much GREATER interest in the policing of social conduct and the ensuring that the kids on the street have a mother and a father at home, that the schools (which the parents are basically never at) are teaching good values, et cetera. In fact, there are still a few New Jersey suburbs of NYC that prohibit businesses from being open on Sundays!

  • @billweirdo9657

    @billweirdo9657

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexanderfretheim5720 compares liberal with libertarian.... Me: no need to keep reading.

  • @alexanderfretheim5720

    @alexanderfretheim5720

    Жыл бұрын

    @@billweirdo9657 I actually didn't.

  • @alexanderfretheim5720

    @alexanderfretheim5720

    Жыл бұрын

    There is some of that, but here's the other side of it: EVERY TIME AND EVERY PLACE where conservatives have been competitive in the big cities, and it doesn't matter whether you're talking 1960's LA & Boston or Singapore, 1990's Orange County, or Seoul, Singapore & Hong Kong now, social conservatism was a major part of it. The most dangerous lie in American politics today is that urban people are always and would always be socially liberal or libertarian, and it's a believable lie because when we think of a socially liberal person the image that comes to mind is almost always a well-dressed "man about town" who lives in a stylish high-rise apartment, whereas when we think of a socially conservative person we think of an old farmer who lives in a small town, but it's actually the opposite of what works politically and, when believed, this lie leads to conservatives becoming utterly insufferable to the people who live in the cities, which distorts democracy in to a politics of division and hate. In truth, city people WILL NEVER accept the kind of individualism that leads to libertarianism, because the bigger the city, the less your own efforts and ability determine how well you do. Cities are the land of "nope": complex social environments where relationships, reputation and social connection are key to success, and as a result, are jealously guarded, and over time, that creates a world where people simply can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps. No job for you, no business for you, no meeting for you, in fact, we won't even let you in to the nicest night clubs or restaurants or let you rent the nicest apartments if we don't "like" you. And that matters, because everything that happens in a city is fundamentally about working with other people. Cities ARE however, in the religion business, and have been since the first great temple complexes were built in Ancient Egypt 6000 years ago. Almost all your great cathedrals, great temples, great seminaries, great schools of meditation, Protestant megachurches, great synagogues, et cetera, are located in big cities. Big cities are also a place where your actions effect other people profoundly and in ways that can be difficult to understand, and that makes "throw the bums in jail" an attractive political rallying cry, and creates actually much GREATER interest in the policing of social conduct and the ensuring that the kids on the street have a mother and a father at home, that the schools (which the parents are basically never at) are teaching good values, et cetera. In fact, there are still a few New Jersey suburbs of NYC that prohibit businesses from being open on Sundays!

  • @sampotassium15
    @sampotassium15 Жыл бұрын

    Another factor that may affect an area’s political party affiliation is colleges. As someone who attended Indiana University in Bloomington, IN, which is a town with less than 100,000 people and located roughly 50 miles away from Indianapolis, it is one of the most progressive parts of Indiana. The same could be said for West Lafayette and South Bend, which are towns for Purdue and Notre Dame. It goes to show that age demographics skew the area’s party beliefs, not just population and quantity of skyscrapers.

  • @random_youtuber8095
    @random_youtuber8095 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, thanks for this video! Really explained things well. I remember my classmate and I talking about politics and he said that it was basically people living in rural areas vs urban. I was pretty confused! But now I understand :D

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words, and glad the video helped. :)

  • @marrychrismas5993
    @marrychrismas5993 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video, well researched. Thank you for your efforts. Keep up the great work.

  • @johnmike9618
    @johnmike9618 Жыл бұрын

    Very unbiased. I don't see that very often. Good job. 👍

  • @ianhansen6840
    @ianhansen6840 Жыл бұрын

    Great ending line! All of us and our little hypocrisies and blinders. You could do a whole series of videos on that topic!!!

  • @mrsmokestacks21

    @mrsmokestacks21

    Жыл бұрын

    Every time he does a video it’s on that topic!

  • @ThunderHOWL16
    @ThunderHOWL16 Жыл бұрын

    Mr. beat your videos are always so well-made and insightful. I really appreciate creators like you!

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    Well I appreciate kind viewers like you. Thank you!

  • @ThunderHOWL16

    @ThunderHOWL16

    Жыл бұрын

    @@iammrbeat hahaha “viewers like you” ironic cause you’re like a better PBS!

  • @Avantime
    @Avantime Жыл бұрын

    A few more factors: 1) Cities are big melting pots, big international cities like LA and NYC especially so. People routinely exposed to global influences tend to be more liberal. Same for university towns. 3) Taxes, business & environmental regulations (especially agricultural runoff), water rights etc. issues that directly affect farmers 4) GOP embracing farm subsidies and protectionism over free trade. Farmers around the world, from Japan to France & the US tend to be the most subsidized and protectionist voting blocs. 5) Labor mobility (or lack thereof) from rural to the urban centers. Urbanization is the story of this century, and those who cannot/will not go to where the jobs are - they're missing out. Edit: Yes I know #2 isn't there, I deleted it without reordering the others. Since Mr. Beat made references to the factors I'll leave it as it is.

  • @hoolio5659

    @hoolio5659

    Жыл бұрын

    Mostly agree, however I wouldn’t say living in Urban areas make people more “liberal” as in the social and economic side of things, I would say these conditions make urban areas more progressive. Unless you mean the shitty americanized version of liberal which has just been boiled down to someone who votes democrat, in that case I agree.

  • @honkhonk8009

    @honkhonk8009

    Жыл бұрын

    Very true. But thats mostly changing I feel. Alot of Indian immigrants where I live have farms and work in rural areas too. Its not so much rural people being uncomfortable around POC or being racist. Its more just rural people not caring I found.

  • @crgrier

    @crgrier

    Жыл бұрын

    While I see that broadening of experience results in broadening of the mind, your mention of university towns needs a caveat. The great majority of instuctors, administrators and policies at large universities are very liberal/left/progressive. The students are under enormous pressure to conform to the progressive policies that run their lives for 4-5 years. It's a form of indoctrination almost to the point of brain washing.

  • @reeseman1932

    @reeseman1932

    Жыл бұрын

    Some people think rural areas might grow in population now that working online from home is becoming more popular.

  • @XboxxxGuy

    @XboxxxGuy

    Жыл бұрын

    Cosmopolitanism is always a threat to very narrow ways of thinking yes.

  • @projectc.j.j3310
    @projectc.j.j3310 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video man! Learned alot

  • @jonathanbell5561
    @jonathanbell5561 Жыл бұрын

    Good video. Well done. States difference a without judgment. Very refreshing.

  • @zakkmiller8242
    @zakkmiller8242 Жыл бұрын

    Always good hearing Mr. Beat dropping knowledge for the free! Still wanting to make a heavy metal song about the most heavy metal president in US history (you can decide who that is lol) with you! Thanks for all the hard work and content, brother. Much love.

  • @wesleyrichards6045
    @wesleyrichards6045 Жыл бұрын

    I think you left out that people in rural areas also stereotype people urban areas as murderous gangsters, drug dealers, rapist, dumb, poor, polluted, and fast talkers/fast. Also the suburbs are probably the only ones that hate both urban and rural areas, because they aren’t suburbs. Urban areas have too many people, and rural areas have too few people. Also suburbs hate both because of economics, while sure the urban areas have a lot of wealth it isn’t distributed anywhere close to equally and rural areas also don’t an equal distribution of wealth. It is economic opportunity in the suburban that is why people live there, in both rural and urban areas there is little economic opportunity.

  • @Diphenhydra

    @Diphenhydra

    Жыл бұрын

    I live in the suburbs, and while you’re correct that I hate urban areas because there are too many people, the reason I hate rural areas is because points of interest are so far apart. Suburbs provide the closeness of places I need/want to go with a low population.

  • @Jamcad01

    @Jamcad01

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Diphenhydra I'm in the suburbs and I don't hate rural areas, though the inconvenience of not having anything close by would mean I would not live there. I absolutely loathe the inner city though

  • @Diphenhydra

    @Diphenhydra

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jamcad01 yeah, i exxagerated a little bit. I don’t hate rural areas but just wouldnt live there. I have friends who do and when i see them its always nice and peaceful. But yeah, cities are too much. Too busy and noisy, super confusing. I wonder if i would feel any different if i didnt live in the suburbs. Probably.

  • @WilliamZehnder2002
    @WilliamZehnder2002 Жыл бұрын

    What's crazy is my parish in Louisiana, Lafayette, tends to vote so Republican despite being the 4th largest city in the state, and one of the fastest growing areas in the state as well. Just intriguing to me.

  • @lazygongfarmer2044

    @lazygongfarmer2044

    Жыл бұрын

    There are exceptions to the rule. Fort Worth, Texas has a population just under one million, but leans Republican

  • @Raspberries9372

    @Raspberries9372

    2 ай бұрын

    Lubbock, Texas. Montgomery county Texas. Provo Utah. All have vast majority population center being republican as well.

  • @jaydee975
    @jaydee975 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, and very true! I’ve known this for decades since I started looking at election results in the newspaper years ago. One thing that is odd about America is that most of the wealthy people live in the suburbs while a lot of the poor people live in the urban city, whereas most other places in the world it’s the exact opposite.

  • @ianhomerpura8937

    @ianhomerpura8937

    Жыл бұрын

    Also, a lot of suburbanites tend to shun public transport and multifamily housing, and block every proposal for these two. This applies to BOTH Republican and Democrat suburbanites.

  • @benjaminfisher1565
    @benjaminfisher1565 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video. I have lived in rural US my whole life (so I can't really speak for people in urban areas) and I've noticed this divide is a pretty major component of why everything is so polarized. (Alright, book-of-a-comment time lol) I'm sure urban areas have been in relative economic decline as well, but rural areas have been totally left behind. I know of many mills and factories and other places that used to offer low and medium-skill jobs to the people in my area that have shut down. Oh boy, I'm about to say the buzzword, but this is why when so many rural conservatives hear "white privilege", with rural areas are predominantly white, they are offended because they feel like they're being left behind and they feel like their whole community is being attacked. Even if they wanted to help, there's not really anything they can do because there are no minorities that live near them (I'm exaggerating "low amounts of minorities" would be better). This contrasts with the urban areas, where white privilege could be (and I'm assuming probably is) very real, and a social problem to address. Gun violence, is another huge talking point in urban areas but I simply do not see guns leaving rural communities. There are many hunters who literally take weeks off from work in the fall because it is their largest hobby. I can't tell you the number of people I know who define their whole personality around hunting and pickup trucks. Minority representation is also a social issue that is alienating rural people more because the demographic in these areas are very dominantly straight, white, and Christian. When they turn on the TV (or browse the internet) and minority representation is in +75% of the ads and commercials they see, it doesn't reflect what they see in their real lives everyday. They feel like they are being shutout and left behind even more because of this (I just want to add here that ofc I'm for minority rights and such, I'm just explaining :) These examples (as well as other things I haven't added here) explain why when orange man told them he was going to make everything great again, nearly every rural place in America supported him really hard and they still cling to him to this day. I'm pretty young myself. 2020 was the first presidential election I was able to vote in and when I saw that the options were the two gentlemen in the thumbnail, I was pretty let down to say the least. There's roughly 150 *million* people who fill the 3 requirements to run for president and we narrow it down to those two? Goodness gracious this comment is going to be very very long. The political polarization of today is causing the US to absolutely dismantle itself. Personally, I think a solution (and if it's not a solution it would certainly help) is electoral reform paired with new restrictions politician eligibility as well as deliberate diversification of the political party landscape. In simpler terms: 1.) Replace plurality and 1-person-1-candidate voting with ranked choice voting (or any other system that's better than what we have now) 2.) Deliberately broadcast and platform various 3rd parties during elections. I think the 3 final presidential debates would look much better with anywhere from 5-12 candidates (rather than 2 trying to convince the public they're not as bad as the other, that's ridiculous in my eyes) 3.) With the two previous reforms in place, I don't think there's a need for the electoral college 4.) Age restrict federal politicians to no older than somewhere in the 60-70 year old range. I can't predict exactly the implications of these changes but I do think they would help. I get frustrated seeing so many people be so close minded and trapped in internet and real life echo chambers. Diffusing the abject polarization of US politics is something that should be talked about more. Anyways, that's about all I have to say. Have a nice day! :)

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    Your solutions seem reasonable! Thanks for the thoughtful response.

  • @joshdaniels5117

    @joshdaniels5117

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve lived here on my great grandparents ranch in southwest Virginia all my life, and although I may disagree with you on some points, you have a great point on polarization. Me as a libertarian really think both parties are authoritarian tools of the government ( Republicans and dems really aren’t that different policy wise) but when 2020 rolled around and the whole thing about Demonizing straight white males, really turned me off from the left, as did many others. The gun control issue has also been a big turning point for me as well. ( in my opinion the Govt shouldn’t be in the business of marriage, guns, drugs, etc.)

  • @joshdaniels5117

    @joshdaniels5117

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope that provides some insight on it from someone out here, if someone from an urban area wants to discuss their point of view, I’d love the insight.

  • @abandonedfragmentofhope5415

    @abandonedfragmentofhope5415

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshdaniels5117 I'm from a suburban area but my suburb is just an extension of an urban area. If you want to discuss this then I'm here. I don't know what I can say about it honestly. I don't try to engage people on social issues because it just brings things to a boil real quick and I'm tired of people threatening to murder me online because they read something they don't like. But I most assuredly despise both parties with a fervent passion.

  • @liborkundrat185

    @liborkundrat185

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a great comment, although I disagree on a couple of solutions: 1) I personally think this won't solve the rural-urban divide. Rural areas will still vote certain candidates while urban ideas will vote other certain candidates. If we consider some compromises between Democrat candidates' ideology and Republican candidates' ideology as "the centre", then the centrist candidates will be unvoteable for Democrats as well as for Republicans. And I doubt ranked choice helps, as such candidate would likely remain unmarked for most people. (unless you require all candidates to be ranked, not just how-many-the-voter-wishes-to-rank, but then you get a good chunk of people filling the ballot randomly after their first two or three choices) Don't get me wrong, implementing such system would without a doubt be a huge improvement for many reasons, but I don't think it would solve the urban-rural divide. 4) You essentially narrow down the number of potentially good candidates, which is not something I'd like to see. I fully agree on #2, though. And #3 sounds fair enough.

  • @segasupernova5121
    @segasupernova5121 Жыл бұрын

    You’re such a great teacher and the way you explain things help me understand these kinds of things so much more. Thank you Mr. Beat!

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the kind words. It helps to keep me going. :)

  • @SourDohSteele
    @SourDohSteele Жыл бұрын

    I lived in Rural areas most of my life. Most people who live out there just want to be left alone, but since cities have the voting power, they can put political pressure on rural areas.

  • @jeffc1347

    @jeffc1347

    Жыл бұрын

    I have lived in cities most of my life and people who live in cities feel the same way rural areas having an over-representation politically, which is evident with the very existence of the electoral college system.

  • @nathanriver1556

    @nathanriver1556

    Жыл бұрын

    As someone who lives in Dallas I feel the exact same way - that people who live in rural areas care a whole lot about how us city folks live and just won’t leave us alone.

  • @thedrewb2273

    @thedrewb2273

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, Pennsylvanian here. PA almost without exception (not 2016) votes blue nationally and for governor because Pittsburgh and Philadelphia and their suburbs massively outnumber the empty red counties around them. And yet, Pennsylvania also always has a Republican legislature. A Republican legislature that will not allow Philadelphia to curb its gun violence with its own gun laws. Maybe read up on gerrymandering? It's hilarious when people say the cities "have the voting power". Um, you mean, there are more of them than you?

  • @jonathanlondon4501

    @jonathanlondon4501

    Жыл бұрын

    Rural voting power is weighted more heavily than urban voting power. The minority deciding law for the majority is backwards af.

  • @glasses685

    @glasses685

    Жыл бұрын

    Except rural voters actually have much more voting power than urban ones due to the Electoral College. It's literally why Republican candidates can easily lose the popular vote significantly and still win the presidency.

  • @melvinwren
    @melvinwren Жыл бұрын

    i live in Magnolia, Texas, its 50 minutes north of Houston. when i moved here it was one high school, narrow two lane roads, and a brookshire brothers. then they built a shopping center closeby, with a Target as the anchor store, and then everything went suburbs.

  • @jacksoncross9265
    @jacksoncross9265 Жыл бұрын

    As a 4th generation iowa farmer living in the Phx, AZ metro area (6mil) i respect Mr. Beat for always staying pretty fair.

  • @Joseplh
    @Joseplh Жыл бұрын

    I was born in a suburb, spent a negligible portion living in urban(temporary apartment), most of my youth in rural, and now back to suburb, just outside the urban city. There are many reasons for the divide. One is that laws/policy for urban areas don't necessarily work in rural areas. Public transit, bus, subway, and trolley systems work in urban areas. This is largely due to cost and the number of people and places per mile. It makes sense in urban areas, because there are many people to pay for a few miles. Rural areas on the other hand, are flipped, few people and places over many miles. Even consolidated together in towns and villages, often the finances just are not there. Another example is environmental regulations. Smoke, chemical, and noise pollution within rural areas are dispersed over many miles. Lots of dirty industries like power plants, steel mills, and general manufacturing were either on the outskirts of the city or within towns in rural areas. Those kinds of businesses often need a lot of cheap land for the massive factories and people don't like to live right next to a smelly factory. Within urban areas, they often are segregated into industrial zones. In rural areas, you'd find entire towns dedicated to a single factory/industry. Often called steel towns, or something similar depending on the business. Pollution from those businesses in rural areas is not as noticeable as within urban areas. Urban areas will have stricter controls over pollution within the city while rural areas don't feel as much of a need. When a state is dominated by urban voters, they will put in place statewide the strict pollution controls. This drives up the cost of business and those industries are forced to close and move over seas. The negative effect on urban areas is not as great, because there are many other businesses able to fill in at least part of the gap left behind. Rural towns on the other hand lose a significant portion of the businesses bringing money into the town. You can directly see the effects of this in the "rust belt" where many steel towns are now in poverty due to the steel industries moving out of the states. The final irony I see in this is that as soon as the business moved overseas the environmental regulations are absolutely worthless globally. Sure locally it is nicer, but the same and often greater amount of pollution is being made elsewhere.

  • @JDthegamer209

    @JDthegamer209

    Жыл бұрын

    You brought up a lot of great points. I think a lot of people tend to overlook the environmental regulations that have pushed so many businesses out of small towns, which is one of the biggest issues facing rural areas today.

  • @YaBoiScrumpo

    @YaBoiScrumpo

    Жыл бұрын

    This feels like a fair assessment of the situation to me, with a few caveats. It makes me wonder if progressive regulation enforcement could be enacted such that in cities with higher densities of people, stricter environmental policy would be enforced than in Nowheresville where there's more space to spread out damages. The only issue I take with putting the needs of small town America over big cities, and even the global sphere, is how reasonably easy it would be to take advantage of such a system. Not dissimilar to how companies have embraced globalism as a way to lower wages and avoid environmental policy of their home country, but more specific to a country not the whole world. For instance, a company may locate from near a big city to down in the middle of nowhere because lessened regulations would allow them higher levels of air pollution or to get away with dumping some amount of waste into waterways. Problem being is that eventually higher level of air pollution would spread out and drift into cities anyways, or cause further ozone/climate damage which would then come back around to everyone. Perhaps too, water source pollution would flow back up to population centers, harming people or raising water treatment costs. Those are some examples of what comes to my mind. Just because large amounts of pollution aren't localized doesn't mean they don't cause damage to the planet or ultimately affect other people outside a small town's sphere. Rural populations that don't "feel the need to" be proactive since impact in their immediate area is small shouldn't be totally let off the hook and pull in the businesses that want to skirt policy. While I don't really mean to cast away people so coldly, a town designed around one entire industry isn't sustainable and is highly likely to fail at some point as global conditions change. Think about all those mining towns from the gold rush which are now ghost towns. Their purpose was served and they were abandoned when the jobs and industry died or went elsewhere. I do sympathize with the people trapped in towns like those in the rustbelt who have absolutely been destroyed by the industry they may have been built around or sustained by leaving due to cost increases associated with running the business. That said, I'm firmly against lowering our standards and returning to polluted water sources, smog-filled cities, and ozone holes just to be competitive with developing nations. The answer shouldn't be to lower our standard to compete, but rather to pressure other countries to raise their standards. Regardless of business justification for moving, we all share the same planet and all don't benefit from lowering environmental protection standards both on individual level for health concerns, and at the global scale for issues like climate and ozone destruction. All this doesn't even address my opinion on the reciprocality of your first "urban policy doesn't work for rural areas" point, which I'll refrain from talking about since this reply is already more than long enough.

  • @Joseplh

    @Joseplh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@YaBoiScrumpo Thanks for the reply. Like the phrase, "A picture is worth a thousand words", a problem has a thousand variables. I'm not going to definitively say what I think is "the best" solution. Like in my public transit example, there would be times and places where it would work and where it would not. I find that the most difficult thing is to figure out how much weight should be given to a variable. One thing to keep in mind what I call the 3Ls, Labor, Location, and logistics. No industry wants to move to nowheresville if there is not enough labor to work. The industry also wants lots of cheap land/location that fits their needs. Finally, even if a business has a factory in a town with plenty of people on plenty of good land, if they cannot get their products to market and bring supplies in, they will go quickly out of business. Regardless, I'd like to explore a few solutions I know have been tried to the problem of "Environment and Industry". "...if progressive regulation enforcement could be enacted such that in cities with higher densities of people, stricter environmental policy would be enforced than in Nowheresville...". In some ways this already exists through zoning laws and regulations. If you look at any city in the US, you will see that there are clear financial, shopping, industrial, and residential zones. Granted this is within urban areas and typically the goal is traffic controls and beautification as the city can segregate the dirty industries away from tourist/shopping zones. As for the Urban vs Rural divide, it is possible to set local rules that apply to only "within city limits". Issues come when the city population outweighs rural areas, dominating state office and advocating for rules statewide. The same is true in reverse. The difference I see is that it is easier to make stricter rules locally than have conflicting rules with the state. If the state bans dogs and the city/town/county allow dogs, the state rules win. If the state allows dogs and the city doesn't, the city rules win. Here are a few other solutions that I know have been tried in the US and elsewhere, "Opportunity zones"(1), Tariffs on foreign goods, carbon tax credits, subsidies, exemptions, and nationalization of industry. Some of these solutions are clearly better/worse than others. To wrap this up quick, a lot of things have been tried with varrying results. If you think of something, I bet you that someone somehwere has tried it. Find it find out the positives and negatives. Why it did/didn't work. (1). www.wellsfargo.com/the-private-bank/insights/planning/wpu-qualified-opportunity-zones/

  • @YaBoiScrumpo

    @YaBoiScrumpo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Joseplh Yeah, that's the idea I was looking for but struggling to communicate for whatever reason. Local policy, which often is overlooked, vs the state policy at the larger scale. It might be wise to give cities more power to act locally without impacting the rest of their home state. I agree with you when you say "I see is that it is easier to make stricter rules locally than have conflicting rules with the state" for that reason. For the record, I do support higher environmental standards across the board locally, statewide, and nationally, but I can't in good faith go 100% in because of the effects it has on people who cannot afford the difference in cost or who may lose their jobs due to fleeing industry. Hence why I'm sympathetic to the argument against letting the city run the state even though it's technically where the most people live in the states run by their most major cities. The story that stands out to me is that of Gary, IN. If I recall what I learned correctly, it was a city established and built by the steel industry from nothing for its workforce. Now that the industry that founded the city has left, it suffers and has not recovered economically since it was built by the steel industry for the steel industry. It still suffers from the effects of water pollution from the industry's dumping habits and lead pollution as well. I feel that putting regulations in place to reduce these impacts was worth it, but I'm not a person whose family lost their source of income when their employer fled the area after the regulations drove up the cost either. I don't think the decision between bending the knee to keep an industry at the expense of the health and safety of the area or trying to protect the people but then end up costing them their jobs instead is an easy one. I like that 3Ls idea, and you've definitely caught me exaggerating regarding companies heading to literally nowhere. I'll also fully admit that I'm not very versed in industrial small-town/city history and tendencies. That said If a business can get the cheap land they need near enough to a highway or major railway and can incentivize enough people to move out there with them or move to their new area (possibly subsidized by the state just to retain them somehow), their 3Ls could be relatively easily fulfilled for cheaper than right by/in an established city. Presumably, that wouldn't happen so simply today as it did before globalism and the regulations we have in place today on companies. Still, I don't see what stops businesses trying to escape the environmental clamping of cities from doing this more often other than that due to globalization and advancements in technology, it's seemingly even less expensive to go overseas than to move within the country. I'd stand by that statement even if small-town America was allowed to be less highly regulated in areas that cost businesses a lot of money to comply with than their big city counterparts. From my prospective, if the logistics of employing so many people overseas and sending supplies and finished products internationally justify the business costs more than functioning in American cities or establishing new industrial areas in less unregulated parts of the county, I can't really fathom a reality where we don't basically return to 3rd-world standards of living in terms of wages and environmental protection to compete. Hopefully that all made some sense haha.

  • @Joseplh

    @Joseplh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@YaBoiScrumpo I am familiar with Gary Indiana. That is an interesting case study. Did you know that it is technically within the Chicago Metropolitan area? Chicago rests on the border of Illinois and Indiana Much of the history of Gary is intricately tied to the history of the automotive industry in Chicago. With the collapse of the automotive industry, much of the waste today is due to the decaying remains of the former industries. When they were in business, the city could afford to pay to keep the streets clean and the business itself would be held responsible for their own messes. Not a perfect system though... Unfortunately, when the business collapsed the city no longer had the tax revenue to maintain the environment, keeping the streets clean, and you can't make a dead business clean itself up. The irony in that is that the terrible mess today is because the industry collapsed. Whether it was from regulations/unions/cheap foreign goods it is hard to say.

  • @insanejughead
    @insanejughead Жыл бұрын

    I live in KC. Good to know I might bump into Mr. Beat at some point.

  • @himeshk212
    @himeshk212 Жыл бұрын

    awesome video Mr beat. It must have taken ages to build

  • @andrewalderman101
    @andrewalderman101 Жыл бұрын

    I am an active Democrat, and I live in suburbs (that used to be rural lands). I think something we have to consider is that population density requires more regulations than in less dense areas. When I lived in an apartment, I would hear from my neighbors if I played my music too loud. In the suburbs, they are too far away for that to matter. Living closer together requires more people's needs to be met, sometimes at the cost of individualism.

  • @pineapplepH

    @pineapplepH

    Жыл бұрын

    Great point and I think climate matters too. Colder areas require cooperation during winter or everyone dies (exaggerating but point being that winter and lack of food force the need to work together) while hotter areas allow for longer periods of food growing. Throw in transportation with snow v no snow and I believe colder urban areas NEED centralization whereas warmer rural areas simply can't enforce or leverage the same political systems. This might be why warmer rural areas tend to be more religious (at least it appears so in the US), given that a lack of governmental centralization forces society to be structured around SOCIAL centralization, often around religion and moral codes. Sweden, UK, South Korea, Japan, Canada, Northern US, all temperate to colder climates, with well industrialized urban centers that serve as the cultural and political centers of their nations, lean democratic, secular and communalistic. The southern US, south America, south east Asia, eastern Africa, and the middle East. Hotter areas with less centralized political structures with significant swathes of less developed, struggling rural areas susceptible to religious zealotry and political extremism As a US Southern, I love my region and my people, and do not wish to paint anyone with a broad brush, let alone one simplifying their cultural and political identify. But I do feel as though there's a fascinating correlation potentially there worth diving into

  • @arnaumaureliapeidro2485

    @arnaumaureliapeidro2485

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pineapplepH Your obervations are incredible

  • @SR-zc6lk

    @SR-zc6lk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pineapplepH Idaho says hi 👋

  • @Jim-Mc

    @Jim-Mc

    Жыл бұрын

    That would seem to make sense but in practice it often seems that those regulations still don't really benefit the people in denser population areas for some reason.

  • @Timothy_Smith

    @Timothy_Smith

    Жыл бұрын

    The problem I see, as an active conservative republican, is that the laws and regulations that may be practical in urban areas, often have disparate, negative impacts on us in rural areas. They are often passed state wide, and can have extraordinarily damaging effects to rural areas.

  • @NequeNon
    @NequeNon Жыл бұрын

    it seems the divide has become a feature of modernity. Yet the way it expresses itself can change very much from one area to another. I also find the motivations behind the divides, like fear of change, can be very elusive. Canada's Quebec is an interesting example where rural electors tend to live a far less traditional family values (lack of better term) lifestyle. Over time they may be more conservative in some respect, but it could be because of perceived unfulfilled desire as if they feel changes come at a high cost to them...that sort of thing, not necessarily because they truly fear change.

  • @chambino1916
    @chambino1916 Жыл бұрын

    Mr.Beat, I really appreciate your unbiased take on this social issue. Thats really hard to come by these days and it has shed some light for myself. Keep being the awesome channel you are. -jaden

  • @mrsmokestacks21

    @mrsmokestacks21

    Жыл бұрын

    Unbiased??? Okay pal

  • @chambino1916

    @chambino1916

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mrsmokestacks21 you dont think so? What are his biases towards?

  • @MA-hn9vo

    @MA-hn9vo

    11 ай бұрын

    @@chambino1916 He is biases to the left and does not show a unbiased at all.

  • @thomasfriesejr.9198
    @thomasfriesejr.9198 Жыл бұрын

    Very excited to watch this. Such an underreported phenomenon that explains almost everything.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    I should have released this awhile ago :)

  • @EvanStone1134
    @EvanStone1134 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve always seen these maps of red vs blue states. Very good video Mr Beat thank you

  • @lonestar1068
    @lonestar1068 Жыл бұрын

    What an amazing perspective 👏.

  • @yashvirsinghdalal
    @yashvirsinghdalal Жыл бұрын

    To judge a nation's political character, just see how it treats their farmers, soldiers and teachers.

  • @joeywheelerii9136

    @joeywheelerii9136

    Жыл бұрын

    In all fairness teachers largely deserve it.

  • @duaneleavesley3778
    @duaneleavesley3778 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mr Beat. One of your best videos

  • @ryandeshazo
    @ryandeshazo Жыл бұрын

    There is a large divide but in my opinion it’s greatly exasperated by the way our class system works. The republicans love to fear monger about the “woke left communist elite whatever” and the dems love to demonize the “bigotry/prejudices of the right” all in the name of keeping the working class set against itself and people working their asses off to even maintain their current standard of living, while the politicians and the rich and powerful profit more and more. In this system, everyone is meant to blame the more disadvantaged yet distant people to their place in society for its woes, which for the right is the lgbtqia+ community along with immigrants and minorities in cities, while for the left it’s the rural communities that hold society back- even though they have in fact been left behind and rightfully so feel alienated. All of these communities need to realize that we are all on the same side and should work towards improving material conditions for all. It’s already happening in some instances but we need to continue improving and informing to the best of our abilities.

  • @AlligatorArms

    @AlligatorArms

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely true. I feel like the Occupy movements of the early 2010’s had some serious momentum against a proper target. Then Mitt Romney ‘accidentally’ leaked that video demonizing the welfare queens & suddenly there was a whole new scapegoat. The media all acted like he was stopping his own campaign dead in its tracks but I think he pretty obviously knew exactly what he was doing. The latte libtards battle the racist republicans while the rich laugh all the way to the bank buying up yachts, islands, and space colonies.

  • @LucasFernandez-fk8se

    @LucasFernandez-fk8se

    Жыл бұрын

    The real issue is WHY IS THERE A WOKE COMMUNIST ELITE ?!? Like damn the woke commie elite wants to steal from the upper middle class families making 80-150k a year and give it to people on welfare to buy votes WHILE GIVING THEMSELVES TAX CUTS, under Biden tax loopholes for the mega rich went UP 😫 like you can either be communists or rich but you shouldn’t pull up the wealth ladder behind you by over taxing the upper middle class to keep yourselves In power

  • @rafaelglopezroman1110

    @rafaelglopezroman1110

    Жыл бұрын

    The main issue is that they need radically different economic policies to improve living conditions. Rural areas need more job opportunities so they can keep enjoying the low cost of living that rural areas provide but democrat policies like minimum wage, immigration and welfare hurts that. Urban areas have all the jobs, but the insane cost of living makes most of them simply not worth it, so republican anti-welfare policies and keeping the minimum wage low hurts that as well. We are now stuck in a scenario where we get the worst of both worlds.

  • @ladygrey7425

    @ladygrey7425

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said. If the farmers and workers of this country realized that it's the politicians, bureaucrats, and their corporate buddies responsible for their plight, we'd have a revolution overnight. That's why the gun control laws primarily target queer, indigenous, and non-white folk. The elites in this nation are afraid of an anarchistic revolt, and rightly so. We'd do a much better job of running ourselves rather than letting "elected" lords and masters do it for us.

  • @crenfick7750

    @crenfick7750

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll believe we're on the same side when they stop taking our rights away. I'm not "blinded" by being banned from public restrooms or from being forced to give birth. It's a false equivalence. The left, on social issues, has always been on the defense.

  • @halopvphq8772
    @halopvphq8772 Жыл бұрын

    This video is really insightful

  • @catya3668
    @catya3668 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mr. Beat!

  • @heimlershistory
    @heimlershistory Жыл бұрын

    I agree with your hatred of the suburbs. Love, Steve Heimler (writing from the suburbs)

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    You can still get out. THERE IS TIME

  • @sansbazinga9821
    @sansbazinga9821 Жыл бұрын

    This is an informative and objective video. This is something I have been worrying about for a while, and I'm not sure how or if it will be resolved.

  • @TheNeoLoneWolf

    @TheNeoLoneWolf

    Жыл бұрын

    Short answer. No. The billionaires are short changing, everyone, urban and rural to the point most people can barely afford to live, and the politicians can't change it even if they wanted to because their campaign money they need to keep their jobs also comes from the billionaires. That why politicians make everything about identity politics. Its a smoke show to keep us all distracted from how fucked we really are.

  • @frenzy2223
    @frenzy2223 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video!

  • @jamesfilios6138
    @jamesfilios6138 Жыл бұрын

    From some of your previous videos I know you're more left leaning in your politics and ideologies. I can tell you put a lot of effort to present things in an unbiased manner regardless and I appreciate that.

  • @MrRapmaster19
    @MrRapmaster19 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video as always Mr. Beat! Loved how you broke down the divides and also hypothesized as to why they exist and, more important, how to mend them.

  • @amaldrew3830
    @amaldrew3830 Жыл бұрын

    It also happened in Malaysia, where majorities of them support the left party came from urban/city while suburban/villages tend to vote right. And undecided voters are the main reason for the party to win an election.

  • @ElliottWong2024

    @ElliottWong2024

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello Amal my fellow Malaysian. How are you doing?

  • @actuallyaardwolf
    @actuallyaardwolf Жыл бұрын

    Real quick, social issues HAVE to be political. political literally means related to public affairs. Really good and informative video.

  • @ShankarSivarajan

    @ShankarSivarajan

    11 ай бұрын

    Also, politics is simply about distinguishing "friend" from "enemy," and there is literally no issue that does not permit such a distinction.

  • @caseroberts9863
    @caseroberts9863 Жыл бұрын

    Illinois is a good example of this. Most of the state is Republican, but Chicago is Democrat, and has a higher population than the rest of the state. Resulting in Democratically governed state.

  • @jameshughes3014
    @jameshughes3014 Жыл бұрын

    I like the idea of giving up the things we are politicized over in favor of being divided on the whole foods vs. cracker barrel issue. why aren't more politicians talking about this vital issue facing America?

  • @JDthegamer209

    @JDthegamer209

    Жыл бұрын

    I know, right? We need more Whole Foods in rural areas, and more Cracker Barrel in urban areas!

  • @jameshughes3014

    @jameshughes3014

    Жыл бұрын

    I said this as a joke, before the whole veggie sausage option at cracker barrel controversy. I was silly, we Americans really can politicize anything 😂

  • @m0z188

    @m0z188

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jameshughes3014 Americans act like their country is so divided but they constantly vote right wing candidates into office.

  • @jameshughes3014

    @jameshughes3014

    Жыл бұрын

    @@m0z188 if you mean we sometimes vote Democrat and sometimes republican I agree. Americans have been programmed to believe that Democrats are the left wing. At the end of the day it really seems as if our choice comes down to right wing.. Or extremely right wing. We need more choice.. Just once I want the option to vote chicken wing or buffalo wing. Ranked choice would be cool.

  • @m0z188

    @m0z188

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jameshughes3014 I mean what happens most is that people who have left wing ideologies accidentally vote for Democrats. and when parties change in the oval office, house or senate absolutely nothing changes in Government.

  • @UnderTheBridge96
    @UnderTheBridge96 Жыл бұрын

    MAJOR POINT : A lot of conservatives living in URBAN areas are afraid to disclose their leanings due to *immense* peer pressure. When I lived in Atlanta, there were *alot* of secret conservatives who would rather fit in with the popular crowd, without wanting to feel ostracized. I’ll bet this is true in MANY big cities.

  • @evelynlipp1006

    @evelynlipp1006

    Жыл бұрын

    Living in the great plains as a lefty, I feel the same way.

  • @crenfick7750

    @crenfick7750

    Жыл бұрын

    Great thing the bible belt is so open to alternative lifestyles and perspectives.

  • @gereikat

    @gereikat

    Жыл бұрын

    Conservatives are cowards. That's why they need to carry guns everywhere.

  • @themanwiththepan

    @themanwiththepan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@crenfick7750 as much as your average lefty is

  • @josgretf2800

    @josgretf2800

    Жыл бұрын

    @@crenfick7750 I would never, ever think about coming out publicly anywhere down there

  • @WhiteDragonCM
    @WhiteDragonCM Жыл бұрын

    its rather nice to hear such a crazy topic talked about calmly and neutrally :3 wonderful video. I allways suspected that being the case, so far as how the rural/ubran individuals look at each other. its nice to have a bit of confirmation on that. sadly, i dont think thats going to change any time soon... i cant tell you how many times I've seen that stereotype in popular media, (as well as many other insulting gestures) that ive all but given up on modern entertainment. I cant imagine this distain/dismissiveness is helping matters, as if the urban sort (where many of the politicians live) don't have a clear view of rural needs, then why would politicians feel the need to do anything about it to begin with? its rather ironic, given that the rural areas is where most of the resources cities need to survive come from. given time, they'll notice, i just hope its before tensions and troubles get worse :/

  • @kentfrederick8929
    @kentfrederick89297 ай бұрын

    Both of my grandfather were farmers. Yet one was unsuccessful and a New Deal Democrat. The other was very successful and a Goldwater/Regean Republican. I'm not sure if the divide is so much about rural vs. urban, as it is about self-reliance versus believing the government can fix your problem. I know rural people who feel life has thrown them curveballs, and the government must help. I know people from the city or suburbs who only expect government to keep the roads in good shape, pick up the garbage, maintain good water pressure, and teach kids the 3 Rs, well enough to get into an elite college.

  • @TheKeksadler
    @TheKeksadler Жыл бұрын

    The fact that you got a shot of a dollar general for the "rural area" is absolutely perfect.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you noticed the detail 😉

  • @OutdoorLonghair

    @OutdoorLonghair

    Жыл бұрын

    I had to laugh at that too.

  • @jeremyd1298

    @jeremyd1298

    Жыл бұрын

    Dollar Generals are popping up everywhere in the rural area of Pennsylvania I live in. They're literally popping up every 6 or 7 miles. Scary cause I feel it displays just how bad things are economically and even mentally for people. Not that DG is a poor person's store, or a bad store, cause it's not, necessarily...but I just feel it's a sign people are struggling financially and by extension, mentally, and DG's don't necessarily sell healthy food...so people like me go there and get junk food to stuff our depressed faces with lol. Not only that, but the local people they employ get lousy wages from them. (Do I make sense? I'm not sure but I see it this way kind of lol)

  • @joespice785
    @joespice785 Жыл бұрын

    Mr. Beat did a great job in this video explaining things. It was very much neutral and I feel represented correctly as a rural resident.

  • @TheVideoIsLongEnough

    @TheVideoIsLongEnough

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that's the biggest problem with politics in this country, is the lack of communication between the parties. I've seen leftists incorrectly represent conservative arguments as much as I have seen conservatives distort and misunderstand leftist arguments. I feel like objectivity isn't even considered at all anymore. People are more interested in trying to demonize their supposed 'opposition' rather than find a compromise between what is ultimately people trying to survive.

  • @SuspiciouslyGroomedPegasus
    @SuspiciouslyGroomedPegasus Жыл бұрын

    Holy shit I immediately recognized that background! Your in Kansas city where I live

  • @russbear31

    @russbear31

    Жыл бұрын

    Mr. Beat is based in Kansas and he used to be a school teacher in the KC burbs.

  • @ViceroyNikolai
    @ViceroyNikolai Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video!!!

  • @lincolngaffney9785
    @lincolngaffney9785 Жыл бұрын

    One thing that I realized is that when you start to think from a purely economic standpoint given that Urban areas have lots of big businesses in the area and they benefit from low taxes you would think they would be more republican, and since rural areas are poorer and benefit more from welfare and farm subsidies you would think that they would be more Democratic.

  • @zackcross7190

    @zackcross7190

    Жыл бұрын

    Urban areas have more diverse businesses and better education systems. Rural areas have poor education systems and are mostly just farm land.

  • @kierancabana2970

    @kierancabana2970

    Жыл бұрын

    In Canada, the socialist movement was started by farmers and received support in rural areas. Now, it seems to me that they are no longer in touch with rural voters like they once were and as a result have lost many rural seats.

  • @professional.commentator

    @professional.commentator

    Жыл бұрын

    Because the majority of people who live in urban areas are working class to begin with and care about worker protection laws which is a Democratic Party objective. Most of the people who run big businesses in cities actually live in suburban areas. And suburban areas usually fall into the rural category culturally speaking. Since big business executives want lower taxes for their businesses, they vote Republican but in their rural-ish districts.

  • @aaronTGP_3756

    @aaronTGP_3756

    Жыл бұрын

    That's why I think the rural/urban is more based on social issues. Rural is more traditionally oriented, while urban loves societal progress and change.

  • @crgrier

    @crgrier

    Жыл бұрын

    It's kinda backwards. Those in the city working for big businesses have more disposable income than the rural people. So city folks feel everyone has some money to spare, so raising taxes to help others is worth it. The rural folks are just the opposite the thought of what little they have being taxed away fightens them.

  • @blackmagicbanette2820
    @blackmagicbanette2820 Жыл бұрын

    I always find it most fascinating when areas subvert these expectations, they make for fascinating case studies.

  • @alexkizer639
    @alexkizer639 Жыл бұрын

    Very well done! Subbed!

  • @unoriginalclips9923
    @unoriginalclips9923 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting video, thanks mr beat

  • @ravenchild7517
    @ravenchild7517 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a bunch for this video! I have always found it confusing that the rural areas in America tend to vote more to the right and the urban areas to the left. I felt like it would be the opposite as city folks are usually richer than rural folks. But if there are no real differences economically and it's all about social issues, then it definitely makes sense.

  • @Mikehy.mp3

    @Mikehy.mp3

    Жыл бұрын

    City folk make a lot working jobs for big corporations and what not, but at the same time the price of rent, housing, insurance, and other essentials / utilities continues to skyrocket while alot of our pay continues to stay the same. Many people in the cities don't own their own houses or land.

  • @philipmcniel4908

    @philipmcniel4908

    Жыл бұрын

    I would say, as someone from a rural area, that it's both economic and social. Economically, urban Democrat voters often support environmental policies without knowing how large of an impact they have on rural jobs. For instance, I live in Oregon, and the Democrats in places like Portland often support aggressive environmental policies such as outlawing the sale of diesel fuel or requiring all trucks to have certain modern features that many used trucks don't have; such laws would cause the life work of many rural small-business owners to evaporate in an instant.

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    Well thanks for watching. :) Also, there are differences economically, but only because the industries tend to be different. I get what you're saying, though.

  • @avinashreji60

    @avinashreji60

    Жыл бұрын

    @@philipmcniel4908 but the environment’s degradation would destroy rural land to begin with

  • @philipmcniel4908

    @philipmcniel4908

    Жыл бұрын

    @@avinashreji60 I would say--and this hasn't necessarily always been true, but it's pretty true in modern times--that people who work in rural farming, ranching, and logging industries know better than to degrade themselves out of business. It's just that when someone from the city looks out their window and sees a concrete jungle or unnatural suburban sprawl, they're apt to see the environment as severely in danger and want to pass highly restrictive legislation without realizing how unrealistic it is (and yes, banning the sale of diesel fuel in an entire state would be unrealistic for rural workers and business owners) OR how good the rural environment is even without it.

  • @James-ep2bx
    @James-ep2bx Жыл бұрын

    One item that would be interesting to see how it correlates would be "self sufficiency" vs "cooperation", I suspect there'd be a strong rural vs urban correlation Personality I've lived in all three at different points and am an avoid "no party" with a surprisingly eclectic sat of positions

  • @rinkerjacob2598

    @rinkerjacob2598

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think self-sufficiency and cooperation are as exclusive, as most people seem to think. Infact in most ways you defined cooperation and self-sufficient, rural areas would score higher in both categories.

  • @philipmcniel4908

    @philipmcniel4908

    Жыл бұрын

    I was visiting about this with my intercultural communications professor, who grew up on a ranch in Montana IIRC. As we'd both noticed, when it came to the collectivism vs. indivdualism spectrum, rural culture--despite urban stereotypes to the contrary--is actually quite a bit more collectivist than urban culture. This would become evident if you gave the following survey questions to urban and rural people, and tabulated the results: "If your next-door neighbor is going to be away for awhile and needs someone to keep an eye on his house or feed his dog while he's gone, do you feel like you should offer to help 'just because it's the right thing to do'?" "If your neighbor down the street were to have an unexpected medical expense, how likely would you be to donate financially to help him out? How likely would you be to find out about his need in the first place?" I think this is more an issue of in-group vs. institutional collectivism: In a culture of in-group collectivism, it is seen as a moral good (or perhaps even a moral imperative) to cooperate with members of your community, but this cooperation is supposed to be a voluntary cooperation among individuals in your community. In institutional collectivism, the moral imperative is to support your nation's institutions for the good of the population as a whole rather than to directly help your neighbor out.

  • @James-ep2bx

    @James-ep2bx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rinkerjacob2598 there's a reason I put them in quotes, that said they can and often do come into conflict as something that is self sufficient has less need to cooperate, and cooperation requires one to expend resources for some else in order to potentially benefit later

  • @James-ep2bx

    @James-ep2bx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@philipmcniel4908 hence why I avoided the collectivism vs individualism framing, as 'self sufficiency' and 'cooperation' can and do exist in both models

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    That probably explains me being all over the place on the political spectrum, too. I lean heavily pro-gun rights and am generally "pro-life," but also have left wing views like wanting universal healthcare.

  • @brettmaloney1411
    @brettmaloney1411 Жыл бұрын

    I like to imagine that he got back in his car and drove all the way to the city or the countryside every time the background changes

  • @uploadstuff1762
    @uploadstuff1762 Жыл бұрын

    This video is basically a summary on why we need to get rid of the electoral college. It's total BS that, a Democrats vote doesn't matter in Alabama because those States electoral votes will inevitably go to the fascists. It's equally unjust that a Republican need not bother voting in California because those electoral votes will never favor him. Go to the popular vote. Give each person an equal voice no matter where they live.

  • @EforEvery
    @EforEvery Жыл бұрын

    I love the visuals man!

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir 🙏

  • @CJsbro1
    @CJsbro1 Жыл бұрын

    I also think cities tend to be more liberal socially because they are exposed to immigrants/people from all over the world and have many friends of different cultures, and want to support them.

  • @realsgtstupid

    @realsgtstupid

    Жыл бұрын

    Lot more crime too

  • @CJsbro1

    @CJsbro1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@realsgtstupid This doesn't seem related to anything I said, not sure what your point is. Poorer people with fewer options do have more crime, and there are also more people in the city/more wealthy people to steal from. Plus with a bigger population it's easier to get away with things. So yes, more crime, but not necessarily per person or anything relatd to the place people come from

  • @alexanderhamilton9891

    @alexanderhamilton9891

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CJsbro1 vote republican

  • @realsgtstupid

    @realsgtstupid

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CJsbro1 the wealth inequality in cities is much more drastic too.

  • @CJsbro1

    @CJsbro1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexanderhamilton9891 no thank you 👌 I tend to believe in democracy and human rights

  • @jameshalliday92
    @jameshalliday92 Жыл бұрын

    I live in Rural Alaska, 200 miles from any town , we have 1 road connecting us with the world. I lean left politically but I hunt, fish and subsistence live among Native Alaskans. We all get along because life here is really tough.

  • @gregkeelen8428
    @gregkeelen8428 Жыл бұрын

    Great content!

  • @iammrbeat

    @iammrbeat

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!