sigma balls

@Kinght_of_Darknes

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha 😐

@H31MU7

Жыл бұрын

@@Kinght_of_Darknes 🙃

@DenzNoble

Жыл бұрын

What balls 💀💀

@ahmadabed4192

Жыл бұрын

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@umamifan

Жыл бұрын

@@Kinght_of_DarknesYou’re so original for that one

When you think of SBC you don't think of something costing almost $600 and the size of a mini PC.

@ibrohiem

Жыл бұрын

That's the only thing that's stopping me from buying them. The sbc cost as much as a fully configured mini PC!! Crazy

@umamifan

Жыл бұрын

It’s a bs luxury product for rich dudes to tinker with

@amrrahmy123

Жыл бұрын

@MenaceInc not saying you are wrong, but a quick look at dell's offering, i3-13100T, 8G, 256GB ssd, starts at " Estimated Value $1,024.83 Dell Price $669.00 You Save $355.83 (35%)" this is definitely not priced like an entry level x86 sbc, but it's also more powerful than an intel celeron sbc.

@sovo1212

Жыл бұрын

@@amrrahmy123 And Dell still offers the same crappy proprietary design. The problem to me is neither is good to have modular laptops. All SBCs from RPi4 to this one seem designed on purpose against this idea.

@amrrahmy123

Жыл бұрын

@MenaceInc you can't judge new prices vs used prices like that. you can choose to buy used from the after market but even then as you said it's not going to be as powerful. you can't ask a company to put out a product new using used product prices. you can however buy celeron or intel i3 router or SBC at $200-ish new, again, not to be compared with used mini pc prices, but if you think you don't need the specs offered by this specific product. now, it would have been a lot more appealing if this product could have been priced at 450 or 500 with storage, but that's not the world we live in today.

Just to get some context to bench results: Lattepanda Sigma on Intel Core i5-1340P : GeekBench 6 ( SC 2213, MC 9283), 3DMark FireStrike: 4690 (GPU score 5031) CS:GO 133fps on Low 1080p, Doom Eternal under 60fps on Low 720p with dynamic resolition scale on Asus Tuf A15 on AMD Ryzen 7940HS : GeekBench 6 ( SC 2414, MC 9436). 3DMark FireStrike 7367 (GPU score 7899), CS:GO 138fps but on High 1080p, Doom Eternal 88fps on Medium 1080p

@Iinustechtips

Жыл бұрын

Wow i5 matching the Ryzen 9 in Geekbench

@BrianThomas

Жыл бұрын

​@@Iinustechtipsright. I was thinking the same thing.

@EulerFink

Жыл бұрын

Intel still really good at CPU capability, even at 10 nm, but AMD is better at GPU capability, so, in the end it's depends on your necessity.

@Iinustechtips

Жыл бұрын

@@EulerFink yep. But I believe they will reach or surpass the 780m end of this year when meteor lake comes out.

@EulerFink

Жыл бұрын

@@Iinustechtips all that I want is this, the war in iGPU, it's really good for us!

What a fascinating product. My interest towards Ultra-SFF has only been increasing, and it is great to see that it is moving onward. Cannot wait how the tech keeps developing in the future!

I love this channel, ideas come to me after watching every video!

great videos as always! cant wait to see the next video as well!! ties in with my question about m.2 gpu test with a laptop board!

Right now beelink has a lightning deal for $415 with a similarly configured setup using core i5-1240p (12C/16T CPU) and you can expand DDR5 RAM up to 64GB of RAM on the Beelink mini PC. IMHO, LattePanda Sigma's price needs to be better to remain competitive in a already crowded competition. That is $165 less total, comes with a Win11 Pro license and has nice case included for the price. None of these are included on the LattePanda Sigma. Also, you're stuck to 16GB of RAM since it's soldered on the mobo.

Great video as always. I'm have my eye on this board, looking forward to some tests with external graphics. 😊

Am I the only one that gets freaked out whenever I see your arms in the video? I've followed you for so long I halfway expect you to be a pair of disembodied hands with a soothing voice.

We all were expecting rog ally video but this is also great 😬

Looking fwd to any videos with OccuLink 👍 Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.

I really hope that 14th gen igpu really gain more traction over intel Xe Atleast do it like Arc A380 if u can't beat phoenix ones We need more competition on handhelds/ultrathin The more the merrier that can do solid 1080p

Hi ETA, thank you for the video. As always watched it multiple times and bought a sigma myself. I was just wondering if we can connect multiple gpus to it and mine with 3 egpu without any trouble using m.2 and thunderbolt ports

Thats impressive,curious,just how much performance do I loose with the e-gpu versus running it on a desktop chip?also psyched for the 780m from AMD on desktop chips

Please spec a similarly featured laptop and a mini-PC with a case.

That eDP port is an awesome option. You could easily make a nice custom self contained system.

@Moddedby

Жыл бұрын

Isn´t the eDP the only way to get fps up to 120? All the other Ports only support 60fps

@xero110

Жыл бұрын

@@Moddedby I'm not sure, but it is the only way to do Free/g-sync.

How low can you take the TDP? I.e for the headless server use case.

sbc is looking beautiful as we go forward. :D

Would like to see you review the Zimaboard or some other lower cost x86 SBCs.

1Million subscribers by concentrating on the SBC and handhelds market, I bet you did not think it would go above 10K subs.

How would these computers do in terms of audio capabilities. May sound stupid, but does this play TruHD atmos audio, dts-x, dts-hd, etc. ?

Excited for this one!

i keep commenting this. but could you add the steamvr performance test to your list of tests you run on new hardware like this? or the "Are you ready for Valve Index?" software. You dont need any vr headsets plugged in. it just runs a performance test and sees what hardware isnt powerful enough.

Mind showing the BIOS? Mobile CPUs tend to have very different option that desktop. Would be great to see P/E cores only situation, particularly E-core only mode to compare this to N305 that has memory channel limitation and fewer igp EUs despite having similar E core count Also would be great to see how well this runs Android games under Project Brunch or Bliss OS

Is can i use SBC for second computer for streaming set-up? For capturing main gaming pc screen for streaming from OBS?

Is this basically a NUC with more M.2 slots and better cooling? I guess the LPDDR5 is also nice, but I think there's some NUC-like boxes that have the same. Still not bad at all for the price.

What do you do with all the extra mini-pcs you have after doing your video?

Can you please show us the difference when connecting the eGPU to M.2! I thought thunderbolt was better...

With dual 2.5Gbe this SBC makes pretty strong case for lightweight home server. It's actually pretty much exactly what I've been looking for. Only thing I wonder is whether BIOS on that thing allows disabling P cores and only running on E cores? I've been looking for low power solution running cool and quiet. No need for heavy compute. The 8 E cores on it alone would be all I need.

@largewallofbeans9812

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, with the sata port, fast LAN, and small size, this is the perfect little home server. And I’m sure you could just put it in an efficiency mode to cut down on power and noise.

@ddsownz

Жыл бұрын

Maybe something like the Beelink EQ12 Pro? 2x 2.5 Gb Ethernet, 8 Efficient cores (i3-N305) with a 15W TDP?

@ruojautuma1

Жыл бұрын

@@ddsownz Looks potentially interesting. Thanks.

@benjiderrick4590

Жыл бұрын

Why disable p cores? Just limit max tdp, so you can use full power of p core in single thread while sipping power when in multithread. If u don't want p cores, just save money and go with either i3 n300 or n100/200 which are way cheaper. Odyssey x86j4125 might get you by, since it now has 2.5gig Ethernet along with m.2 and sata ports

@transatlant1c

Жыл бұрын

I dunno about buying an expensive SBC and crippling its performance (disabling P cores), that seems wrong. As others have said, there’s better options to limit power draw I think. On a side note, I love that lattepanda put mounting holes onto the heat sink itself, that’s excellent.

So between this channel and Explaining Computers I guess I'm doomed to buy a SBC at some point. Oh well.

Can it take a cooler with Intel adapters or is proprietary?

Could we see some m.2 to pcie cards being used to add a GPU?

THREE M.2 slots? That’s impressive. Could do a RAID with that and have one heck of a server. Use the SATA to connect an HDD for backups. Dang!

I really nee to get my hands on 1 of these, I've been looking at these boards and this 1 is probably the one.

isn't that a microSD slot under the heatsink in front?

I would love to get this just for testing against my Raspberry Pi 4, I will have RetroPi installed so that I can play some games from the consoles I used to have as a kid and as a teenager

Im guessing adding the e/iGPU & using as a media server auto-transcoding would be a breeze?

Did you miss the sd card slot right by the front usb?

Can you do it at full overclocked tdb and see what the iGPU can boost up to?

Latte panda Sigma ready for that grind, literally me fr fr, so sigma.

would it be worth it loading Android 12 and up and to use as an infotainment with your car?

It's nice to see such a generous amount of ports and storage options. They describe it as 'hackable', which is a tad cringeworthy because it means nothing. At the price, I'm not sure who it is aimed at.

@dr_tal

10 ай бұрын

People who need the form factor. I could use this for a car PC project and will fit better than a mini PC since I could mount it on the back of a glove box

The algorithm fed me this video. My raspberry pi and orange pi are great. But I needed a micromachine with x86 that had some kind of reasonable processing power. This is exactly what I had in mind.

@njm12

Жыл бұрын

Depending on how much horsepower you really need, a used micro PC from ebay like an HP Elite Desk, Dell Optiplex, or Lenovo Thinkcentre micro can do wonders, especially considering price to performance

Hey ETA PRIME have you ever played with a Unihertz Titan pocket I play with this more than my steam deck I know for a fact youd appreciate it and nostalgic factor

can you add cinebench to your benchmarks?

I’m curious what kind of application would those GPIO do for this kind of super powerful MCU?

A cup of coffee + ETA Prime's new video = life's good

Cool, I think cries of the village has most peoples attention this week

This thing is absolutely insane. Single board computers are getting to the point where they're actually beating 2-3 year old PC's (like mine), but the only issue that remains is the onboard graphics. It won't be long before we just buy a single board computer to replace our entire system. Imagine a future where Lattepanda is equal to Apple.

This is very slim, so I think it could be used in some big windows tablet. I would consider it since it has enough horsepower to do any task I would want on this type of machine, but it is indeed a bit too much expensive. Maybe throw in a core i3 model with 100 bucks less, and it would be a good deal

I could see use for this as a strong lower power mini server. linux with docker.

I've been waiting for you to review this board. I've watched this review at least 4x. Needless to say that I love this board. I'm certainly picking up two of theses to replace a few older power hungry machines at the house.

@Moddedby

Жыл бұрын

I don’t get it if you really get do much fps. Hdmi and thunderbolt only output 60hz i think. Can a eGPU create more fps than it gets from the Thunderbolt?

im trying to make this into a laptop what would be a good battery to power it ?

I like the idea of hanging this on the back of a monitor with a single power supply to build a grab and go CAD work station. Anybody here have an idea of how these game centric benchmarks corelate to Solid Works or Fusion 360 performance?

TB 5 will be insane.

My only wish in these videos is to see the PC gaming performance on more realistic settings - I'd much rather play Fallout4 at higher settings at 30fps. Can it hit a solid 30 with med/high at 720p?

Now I'm curious how Karambit warrior vs Shotel Warrior would look like mow

I thought people got sbc's to use the i/o ports for their inventions. This fellow just plays games on it. Can it operate an automatic cat food dispenser?

it feels like its a good-ish NAS based computer but is it worth the price...?

It's impressive, but also very expensive. I think they went too hard on nice to haves and made it too premium. At this price I would prefer to see 32GB RAM and 2 more performance cores. But that would be unreasonable on a 13th gen product. I do love the dual NIC though. I think they could have trimmed some things and maybe got it to $450 - $500. i5-1240P or Ryzen 6600H, Gb instead of 2.5Gb ethernet, USB 3.2 gen 1, Thunderbolt 3 and maybe drop an M.2 slot. Though maybe this saves nowhere near as much cost as I think it could. I don't know if Latte Panda products drop in price later in their life cycle, but I will keep watching this one.

@kubectlgetpo

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.. 450 was a great price point

Latte panda became a Sigma memeber😂

Pricey for a SBC...you could probably make a small gaming rig the same.

@cybernit3

Жыл бұрын

Nice it has thunderbolt 4 for eGPU but that Razer eGPU enclosure costs like $1000....basically same price if bought a gaming desktop. Wish there was cheaper eGPU enclosure options for these SBC.

@rkadi6540

Жыл бұрын

You pay for form factor and if you really need performance, better build a pc

@ETAPRIME I found a typo in the description: "WIndos". There's some grammar needing attention too. Cool video though.

This sbc makes my mini pc looks like a baby because it only has 10th gen i5

Wish they had used one of the new AMD APUs in this with RDNA3

I'd love to see this running with the 3080 using an ADT Link connected to one of the M.2 ports

@Moddedby

Жыл бұрын

M.2 Port isn‘t the best way to Connect a graphics card.

this will be too pricey but should open door and be leader in sbc/soc for a while - it ticks most all of the boxes - adding 10gbe over usb would be a nice addon - could make nice cluster node - expect upgrades to usb4/5 and wifi7 in sim boards - adding gpu could be nice option also - next gen parts will be out in a year so expect new iteration of this model sooner than later with much better performance - ipc gains could be 25%

@harleyn3089

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the website is showing it at $579. That's more than I would ever spend on an SBC, but it's cool that they're pushing the boundaries.

Would love to see batocera on this!

something to actually consider buying

I got their emails and I'm interested in this because i would use this as a powerful LAMP server

How overkill is this if my main use is Batocera? (Mario Kart Arcade DX is my main reason), the 3 m2 slots has me wanting this SBC so I linux distrohop on a 2nd drive, have Windows (for the rare times I need it) on the 3rd. I love to see you do batocera or a Linux distribution that isn't Ubuntu.. like Garuda

@Ruiso7

Жыл бұрын

Very overkill.

@Caprica_

Жыл бұрын

@@Ruiso7 yeah I figured. I actually have a Hades Canyon NUC running this setup (w/o Windows) and it’s already overkill enough probably. I moved most of my “higher end” (Dolphin/PS3 etc) emulated gaming to my M1 Pro Mac these days because it’s silent.

@jmwintenn

Жыл бұрын

i would just wait until batocera says it can run on one of the new rockchip sbcs that have come out, save yourself $400.

Isn't this just a mini PC without the casing?

how you conect e gpu please tell?

Waiting for rog ally review

Time to update your no-solder gaming handheld project! This bad boy with a razor kishi, battery pack and a mini HDMI screen and you’re in business right? 😅

What is the price $? You forgot to include that with the specs.

What's the power consumption

this is really cool device !!

can x86 device like this run 64bit program?

The future of home desktop 🖥️ on a budget

Hi ETA - love all your videos! I was just wondering - I'm looking to purchase 10 budget mini PCs for use with a charitable organisation. What would you say is more all-round performant, the new Intel N100 mini PCs with DDR5, or an used 6th gen i7 Lenovo/HP/Dell mini PC? Many thanks in advance!

You should make a diy handheld with this

It’s actually two nvme’s and one sata, all 3 on the m.2 connector

I think its to expensive compared to some ryzen mini pcs

whats about the x86, its 64 bit and x86 is 32bit right

Yeah the price is prohibitive compared to recent Ryzen APUs. The only advantage this might still have is slightly smaller and maybe power efficiency but even power efficiency I have my doubts...

So Insane Eta so Insane ohh my ...

1340p is expensive. What if a cheaper product with an N300 cpu comes out?

Real Sigma

Can the CPU be undervolted here?

Honestly waiting for these sbc computers to start coming out in a daughter board configuration, absolutely killing the desktop world.

@Megatog615

Жыл бұрын

@@cloudycolacorp i think to maintain compatibility with ATX mounting they're literally running out of screw holes. Mini-ITX only uses 4 screws.

@thiagomclima2004

Жыл бұрын

@@cloudycolacorp Did Intel put that mini-STX concept to work or it still just an idea?

@questofknowledge8788

Жыл бұрын

​​@@thiagomclima2004 Asus has some "stx" boards if I remember corectly. Edit: Don't know if it counts, but Asrock has their desk mini builds which are an interesting choice for sff builds.

@thiagomclima2004

Жыл бұрын

@@questofknowledge8788 I'll look for it. Thanks for the heads up.

700 bucks is a lot. For that we can generally pick a decent PC. Thoughts?

Damn, another ULTIMATE device.

Nice video

Thanks

Impossible to buy this in Turkey

When it comes to shioters especially, I never mess with the resolution, just the in-game graphics settings. I cant stand anything under 1080p thats horrendous!

I want this board with a Z1 extreme phoenix chip

Kinda of a weird question, but was the cpu almost fully utilized in games like doom eternal and csgo with just integrated graphics? I saw the i5 1340p percentage usage on the side and was wondering if that meant cpu usage.

Problem is Minisforum UM790 Pro exists and this games perfectly fine (2x the sigma) without needing a gpu + dock.