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I didn't think I would enjoy the Chinese Object 122MT much, but it's actually a very fun tank. It is basically a better T-62 that has missiles and a laser rangefinder. Not only is the tank itself great, but it has a lot of great backup vehicles like the WZ305. I actually ended up putting a talisman on mine. I'm honestly not quite sure if it's overpowered or not, it's certainly very strong, but it doesn't seem to do great in uptiers. Another case of BR compression ruining things for everyone, I guess. I hope Gaijin adds more unique vehicles like this in the future.
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The design team being executed was a joke, I thought I added a meme that would have made it clear but I must have missed it during editing. Sorry, like I said in the last video I'm really busy at the moment so I don't have much time to work.
@vulpus
Жыл бұрын
Gentlemen we might've witness the birth of a myth that Spook will spend the rest of his existence trying to smother out. XD
@sway_hybird4984
Жыл бұрын
I think spoonkston would be a great tank commander and designer
@Klimotine
Жыл бұрын
According to the tank encyclopedia you may actually be right engineers on the wz 122-1, -2 and -3 were executed "The project was ultimately canceled after engineers were executed, being deemed traitors during the purges of the Cultural Revolution" requiring new enginners for the -4 at least thats what i gathered "The project was ultimately canceled after engineers were executed, being deemed traitors during the purges of the Cultural Revolution. However, the project was revived with the WZ-122-4"
@peepeepoopoo100
Жыл бұрын
I mean tbf I'd execute them too just looking at this thing
@jordanthomas4379
Жыл бұрын
You’ve probably never heard of the AC1 Sentinel, the only Australian built tank during ww2, it would make for an interesting video
One thing I know about this tank is the design team was executed. Edit: No this is not real this is a joke I was quoting Spokston and he later confirmed he was just making a joke.
@black01_aut90
Жыл бұрын
But why ? 🤷♂️
@Benzo7
Жыл бұрын
China moment
@zzz6730
Жыл бұрын
@@black01_aut90 he's just joking or just blatantly lying because he is american
@krysu7777
Жыл бұрын
china man moment above
@gloomreach4325
Жыл бұрын
@@Benzo7 Communism moment
"It's design team... was executed..." Rest in piece warthunder devs
3:55 as a French light tank enjoyer, this is too accurate
@hanswurst1583
Жыл бұрын
dude, this sentence made my day, idk it was just funnny xD
@michel1080
11 ай бұрын
as a french tank enthusiast it is true
This is one of the research projects of China's second-generation main battle tank. The project started in 1967 and accelerated after the Sino-Soviet conflict in 1969. The first prototype was made in 1970, and the factory code was 122. This tank used hydraulic transmission, hydraulic control and hydro-pneumatic suspension system (so called "three-hydraulic vehicle"). But these technical performance requirements exceeded China's industrial capabilities, and this prototype was quickly abandoned in favor of more reliable torsion bar suspension, mechanical transmission, and mechanical control. The program was completely discontinued in 1974. Also, while I know this is a joke, I want to point out that the engineering team for this project was not executed😅 They began work on the development of WZ-1224 shortly after.
@oldgeezer6716
Жыл бұрын
Where can I learn more on Chinese tank development?
@Del_S
Жыл бұрын
"They began work on the development of WZ-1224 shortly after." And *then* they were executed.
@zheningzhang8654
Жыл бұрын
@@Del_S Chief Engineer Weixian Fang is still alive, he is 88 years old now.😉
@Klimotine
Жыл бұрын
They were executed From the WZ-122 page on the tank encyclopedia "The project was ultimately canceled after engineers were executed, being deemed traitors during the purges of the Cultural Revolution" there were new engineers on the development of the -4, but the original enginners on the 1 2 and 3 were killed, so yeahh you may wanna point that out
@zheningzhang8654
Жыл бұрын
@@Klimotine O7 I've read that page and I respect their work a lot, but I've only found this one source that says engineers were executed. Nor does the quote below the article say more about the fate of the engineering team. In addition, the 1223 tank project was established in 1978, when the Cultural Revolution had ended for two years. Considering there are some other mistakes too (like wrong use of WZ naming) I personally think they got some Chinese sources wrong.
“The one thing I know is that it’s design team was *executed”* Ahh, pleasant.
@folkblues3797
Жыл бұрын
looks like Chinese Democracy tends to do some serious measures to imped leaks
@combusted
Жыл бұрын
it had me going: "oh."
@erloriel
Жыл бұрын
Just China things.
@Lin-De
Жыл бұрын
"People tend to believe what they want to believe instead of the truth"
@generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895
Жыл бұрын
@@Lin-De so they also killed their extended family. Socialist tolerance!
The fact that caliber of ATGMs and main cannon match implies to me that it was a testbed for barrel launched ATGMs and project was likely closed before they could get anywhere with those. Or maybe it suffered the same fate as sino-american Jaguar... that being PRC proving that market doesn't lead to democracy. Shockingly-_-
@honkhonk8009
Жыл бұрын
It sad. China couldv been great if the CCP wasnt such a destructive force. Everyone was actually excited in 2010 about China competing with America, and actually forcing the US to become better. But instead, China got XiJinping in 2013 and degenerated into some authoritarian dystopia.
@loganb7059
Жыл бұрын
The entire design team was executed in Mao’s cultural revolution because they were educated.
@TheArklyte
Жыл бұрын
@@honkhonk8009 well,clearly it all happened because we lacked GLA to balance both sides out!;) Nowadays Putin decided to fill that role...
@solid_fire9388
Жыл бұрын
-100000 social credit
@aceinternational4788
Жыл бұрын
@@TheArklyte Putin?
God that AML-90 using a P47 to revenge CAS you really gets under my skin
@MaticTheProto
Жыл бұрын
Happens all the time :(
As "The AK Guy" would say, the Ali Babad the shit out of that
@Jebotito
Жыл бұрын
I love when the AK Jesus calls me a sexy motherlover
@General_Rubenski
Жыл бұрын
@@Jebotito Strokes your fragile ego and boosts your non-existent self esteem? It sure does for me lmao!
@codymoon7552
Жыл бұрын
@@Jebotito It's because you are. We all are
There is a version of the same tank in WOT but it is slow, has a low reload speed on a deadly accurate gun, and, of course, no missiles. It looks better here than it does there.
@Scorpin_destroyer
Жыл бұрын
As yes, the 122 TM, I don't play mine often but when I do, I'm hitting crazy sniper shots
@firestarteronyoutube5542
Жыл бұрын
Yes but anything looks better if its not from WoT
@raceespirit2177
Жыл бұрын
On Wot console this tank is called wz-122 and actually has ATGMs
@mateoisgood2742
Жыл бұрын
I've noticed a bit of a pattern where WT adds vehicles that WoT adds, like the 279 and now the 122 TM.
@alphaplayzz1381
Жыл бұрын
funny thing is the 122 in wot is still more historically accurate than this one
"i knew it had to be french because it threw the smoke grenades way away from anyplace where they'd be useful" 😂😂
The 115mm dart does actually really good damage on the t62. I can always tell im playing it just based on the damage and amount of one shots i get compared to 105mm apfsds
@KrypticWarrior2
Жыл бұрын
as opposed to knowing you’re playing it by, you know, selecting it and looking at it.
@TheCritterCorner79
Жыл бұрын
this has a 120mm
@suny9144
Жыл бұрын
@@KrypticWarrior2 ♥
@mihaighinea6439
Жыл бұрын
that shitty ass, steel penetrator, 285 pen short rod does good damage? Yike. The only russian apfsds that I've seen to be worse is 3bm9 and that's cuz it's a practice round
@hazeldsr
Жыл бұрын
@@KrypticWarrior2 i generally dont interact with the game until it auto spawns me into the match where i proceed to press w in the gunners view and click on enemy tanks
The ability to follow up with atgm is so nice.
The entire development process was documented in a 2017 Ordance Knowlege article written by one of the project manager on the team. No one was executed, and many from the project went on to work on ZTZ-80/ZTZ-88. In fact, from the article, one of the few positive outcome of joint-project 24 (WZ-122, WZ-132, WZ-212, WZ-532, 120mm gun and hydraulic suspension) is that is provide experience for young designer to work on projects without constraints, as later army project are extremely conservative for the next few decades. The chief designer, 张锐生, for WZ-122 is actually very famous in that he became a huge advocate for tank turbine engines development as well as pushing for merkava-like front mounted engines layout for WZ-123 (later bacome Type 99). The only designer that did die was the lead for WZ-532 (Type 63 APC replacement that never was), but because of execution, but becase of the test vehicle capsized on lake during fording tests, which took his life as well as several other crewmembers.
@TypeKK
5 ай бұрын
The 122 project went on to become the 1224, which is Leopard 2 styled turret on 122 hull then it just become the reference for later modern Chinese tanks If I'm not wrong, but I really love the design of the 122...just an elongated T-62
This thing has basically the same darts as the T-62, and in my experience, the T-62's 3BM3 actually does pretty nice damage.
@Cris-xy2gi
Жыл бұрын
I heard the penetrator is identical and it just has a bigger sleeve so it fits in the 120mm instead of the 115mm.
@duke0salt717
Жыл бұрын
Both rounds are the same actually which I can personally get behind because i really enjoy the 3BM 4 I find these rounds do great damage for early darts
A secondary weapon that can pen tanks is always going to be a fun vehicle. Mclos cent is joy.
@sirswede366
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, unfortunate that the cent’s missiles are keyboard guided. And the missiles launch really high up in the air too
“There is one thing I know about this tank” Oh? “It’s design team was executed...” Oh... “...and that’s why there is so little information about it” Yeah that checks out
Love your videos spoooook!!! Keep it up
Imagine playing something better than a 0.3 uptier for 1 single match
The WZ122 series was an attempt to develop a tank by the 5rd mechanics division(五机部), with the intension to develop a tank that would rival and defeat the T-62s in the 1970s(similar to how the PTZ-89 is meant to promptly fuck up T-72s a mile away), so saying its a better T-62 wont be exactly wrong, edit: this seems like to be a mixture of two tanks, the turret and the hull seems to be from differnt prototypes Quick fact, the gun used on the WZ122, being an enlarged 2A11 tank gun, is the first 120mm smmothbore tank gun in the world, even prior to the L/44, which was eventually brought by China too and is used on the L/50 of the type 89 In war thunder the fact that it is 8.3 is all it matters: its only France and China that has a great 8.3 lineup
Your aim with the ZSU is insane, great video
Im really enjoying these live commentary videos
I have been enjoying this tank a lot tbh! It’s great fun I’m also pretty sure the atgms can’t ammo rack you, as I haven’t ever had it happen so far
Yea, this... thing. You should make a "historically accurate" video about it, it would be very, very long. The model we have in game is an absolute abomination - it's less historical than the one in World of Tanks, and that's quite an "achievement". It has a couple of problems: - It's name is wrong - I'll skip all the crap that's after the number, it's kinda complicated, but I believe it shouldn't be there. But what *definitely* shouldn't be there is the word "Object" - it's a Soviet/Russian designation for prototypes, it never existed in the Chinese nomenclature. It should just be called "122" or "122-1". - And why I said "or" above? Well, that's the best part - we don't even know which variant of the vehicle it is! The vehicle named "122" had several iterations, but the ones that we are interested are the first three: "122", "122-1" and "122-2". The first variant, the "122" was the most advanced one with hydropneumatic suspension, hydraulic transmission and hydraulic controls (hence it's also referred to as "triple hydraulic"), it shares the turret with the in-game model. It however had a different hull, as the variant in game has "mechanical controls". The second variant, the "122-1" was the simplest one with mechanical suspension, transmission and controls (this one is thus called "triple mechanical"), I believe it is the closest to the in-game model as both the hull and the turret fit, but the big issue is that the original 122-1 had the ATGM launchers removed. The third variant, the "122-2" was the mix between the two previous models, and it's also the WoT variant. It had mechanical controls and ATGM launchers, but it also had an autoloader, so the turret looked different.
@HoChiMeme
Жыл бұрын
Seriously confused the fuck out of me when I first saw it such a mish mash
@dragioner4164
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it an "absolute abomination" since the only major issue with the model is it being fitted with the ATGM launchers, since the model overall is the 1221. The 1222 variant is a questionable thing, it is merely speculated that the single remaining tank with the autoloader is the 1222, since there's no other tank that could fill the gap between the 1221 and 1223.
@olekzajac5948
Жыл бұрын
@@dragioner4164 But still, it's just about as "historical" as their vision of the Panther II. And as for what it should be in the game, I think it should be the 122 - it has ATGMs which make it more interesting, and as far as I understand, the differences in the hull design are purely internal - hydraulic transmission and hydropneumatic suspension.
@FrenzyyLumina
Жыл бұрын
@@HoChiMeme yooo i wasnt expecting to meet ho chi meme in spookston video
I love that tank just got the Chinese t55 and this makes grinding further stuff easier
"so Gaijin finally added a squadron vehicle for a nation that isn't part of the big three " UK: Am I a joke to you?
@ferrous3262
Жыл бұрын
technically they have a squadron prop
@sargesacker2599
Жыл бұрын
He just casually ignores the firecrest and the Liverpool. Oh wait they aren’t tanks so I guess they don’t exist in spooks eyes.
3:12 And communist stars on the mud guards, it gives at least 50 horsepower to the engine! How could you forget that 🤦♂️
If your main gun is damaged, your four ATGM will be your best back up weapons because it's missiles top speed is horrendously slow to reach long distance targets.
I think ConeofArc did a video on the history of this tank
the only non-pen in the first match being the r3.....love warthunder.
5:10 spookston is the best anti air tank player change my mind
lol that intro shot was so unlucky.
Props for the OG Chaos Gate track!
To see Spookston enjoy my favourite Chinese tank deffinetly makes my happy.
What a time to be alive, one of my favorite WoT tanks is now in War Thunder
Stabilizer, laser range finder, atgm, darts, thermals… in 8.3? Gaijins hunger for money is well known. This tank is absolutely stupid and gets upranked in the next 2 weeks.
@quocvinhnguyen2063
Жыл бұрын
Actually, this thing doesn't have thermal. But it still shouldn't sit at 8.3, 8.7 is much prefer.
The T-62 was the best tank in the world when it was created
Seems like a fun tank!
i knew about it from wot, it looks much better than the other T series tanks in aesthetics but the armor leaves much to be desired hope the china tree can get the 113 someday
i rarely die to tanks in everything below 8.7 cas is such a bs thing to have in ground battles
@a.b.3455
Жыл бұрын
I'd say from 8.0 onward CAS gets a little less annoying. Mainly because every nation gets a decent SPAA at that point. Only thing that still regularly kills me is ATGM helis
@honkhonk8009
Жыл бұрын
@@a.b.3455 ATGM helis are especially annoying for the US, since every other nation gets them incredibly early on. You cant even use the M163 as a miniature CWIS. For some reason, Helicopters can use their ATGMs to soak up .50 cals and 20mms, since heli ATGMs are somehow are indesctructible.
@Gary_The_Metro
Жыл бұрын
CAS rarely kills me in top tier. It's the ATGM spamming helis. Of course, in lower tier unless you're germany you get no good SPAA options so you end up getting strafed by a million DO-335 B2's that are mad you memed on their glorious indestructible tiger II in your sherman, or you get some no skill cuck in a AR-234 spamming bombs at you. The joys of ground RB.
Does it get a stat boost if there's five or more of them grouped together?
Don’t know if it’s just that you cut out most of the matches or that you’re a bit more “serious” but you seem to be doing better in this than BoTimeGaming. Also, excellent choice in music my friend! Absolutely love the C+C Generals sound track! XD
"SOMEONE HAVING FUN! P-47 GO!"
I'm still a firm believer we need a tanks only mode. I'm 89% sure it would get more attention than standard Ground RB, because revenge bombing is the least fun thing in the world
It looks beautiful. Maybe it’s cause I like the 113 and wz121 from WoT
@Nightmare_52
Жыл бұрын
same here, looks kinda like an old school racecar with the heavily sloped front and angled sides
"There is one thing i know about this tank." Oh really, spook? "It's that it's design team was executed" Uh. Well that's.... Interesting.
This tank appeared in world of tanks prior to this release so there should be info on it (real or not)
It looks like a leopard with T-62 turret and I love that
I love how the turret is 1 solid piece with matched and a gun, BUT THEN there is a basket on the back for presumably shell collection
Just unlocked it and god do I love it, it's so fun, basically an AMX 30 but stabilized and reloads a bit slower, I'm having a blast playing it, I'm gonna farm the rest of the chinese tree to have a lineup to go with it
That thing is the bane of my existence in Tier 8 WoT matches.
That missile killing the Centurion Mk3, HEAT failed to pen but triggered overpressure. And they say Germany suffers...
@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537
Жыл бұрын
M10 life
Air RB with the occasional tank engagement.
yeah this vehicle is one of my favorites in the game
maybe do the chi ri 2 soon that thing is fun if not very good due to being the size of a small aircraft carrier with armour straight out the school of the British Old Gang
5:19 CAS: "you can't kill me if I kill me"
pov: t62 had a kid with the bmp2m
We still need a PTL02 video.
this thing is also in World of Tanks as the "122-TM" though there obviously it's ATGMs do not function. Though for a medium tank at tier VIII it had great armor and a high alpha damage, but one of the worst reloads at tier VIII for its caliber.
They really should add some NK T-62s (ones with IGLAs mounted to the top) to the Chinese Tech tree. It only makes sense that NK is going to be under the Chinese tree.
The snail should add those crazy north Korean tanks that have ATGMs and Iglas haphazardly strapped to them
@bigoof1105
Жыл бұрын
Glorious Kim Chariots would be a fine addition to the game indeed.
@irobot661
Жыл бұрын
@@bigoof1105 Depending on battle rating they could unironically be good. The AA missiles especially could punish careless helicopter players. Maybe planes too but obviously less so.
4:25 How I look at the BMP that just hit me with that dollar store missile
With this thing added the 8.0-8.7 chinese lineup is insane.
if you look at the UFP its more angled than the T62 which I can imagine has to do a lot with its better survivability
Just finished breaking bad feeling depressed now. See new spookston vid. Now i want to play war thunder fuck man i don't need that type of sadness now.
Compairing past Spookston to contemporary Spook: 32% more lively with commentary and laughter. 56.2% increase in Memes. Just as ridiculously leathal at playing WT than I could ever hope to be...
@Spookston would you agree that WT should implement a "Tanks Only" mode?
@honkhonk8009
Жыл бұрын
No. That would ruin the game. I hate CAS with a burning passion, but there are genuinely some moments where the game becomes more of a stalemate without it. Without CAS, matches would also be decided basically at the start of the game. Imo, we need to buff the M163, since the radar on it is unbeleivably unreliable. You could be staring at something, and it would take atleast 10 tries to actually get a lock, which by that time, the target flew away out of range. I think CAS should be more of a killstreak option. The fact someone can go on an AML90, capture a point, get 1 kill, and instantly die only to spawn in a ATGM heli is bullshit.
@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537
Жыл бұрын
@@honkhonk8009 X to doubt Games with zero CAS have been more fruitful for both teams in my personal experience. You're not getting shat out by plane deaths on your maneuvers.
@krypanzer3620
Жыл бұрын
The Devs have gone on record to say that they will never add a tanks only mode, as Combined Arms is apperantly the focus (I'E Planes on Tank RB)
@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537
Жыл бұрын
@@krypanzer3620 One thing is for certain, is that liars lie. Do try to keep up. This is a blanket excuse to work less and scam more wallets.
Can we have a video about the Sherman with the PT-76 gun?
Spookston have you seen bo time gaming's e-100 video where he mentioned the pirce of it compared to his car?
It's like playing the T62M1 or T55AM1 shooting atgms without having to reload the missile after failing to one shot a tank with the main gun
It was called WZ122 in Chinese. You can wiki it. And the saying that the design team was executed was not true, there's no evidence to proof it.
@cheyannei5983
Жыл бұрын
It was a joke But I'm pretty sure they just split up and got other jobs when the orders never came in
if you like a tank-atgm combo, I recommend the STRV-81 RB-52. It's quite a funny vehicle
The Object 122TM in WT is a lot cooler than the WoT version since you can actually fire the rockets now
how the hell are you hitting those SPAA shots
You mention that the designers of this tank got executed? Certified Bing Chilling moment.
yugoslavia did a similar thing to some of theirs since they could not get the gun launched ones from the soviet union, you can occasionally find images of them but they were widely used
Looks like a discount version of the Mammoth tank from Command and Conquer
2:01 "the sound" *insert war thunder cas flashbacks*
Bruh man forgot about the Firecrest's existence
Love the WZ305.
Can you do a review or your opinion on the YMT-05 hildolfr form gundam?
The coneofarc covered this tank it has a history
You should play some Swedish tanks. Although the SPAA is pretty lackluster. The CV-90120 with all the Strf-9040's as a line up is pretty strong. For AA purposes and ground
Well I would Like to see you play and give your thoughts on the M1128. My Father served on something similar in Afghanistan and I want to know if its actually a good vehicle in the game.
Can you do a video on the ZUT-37?
"all i know about this tank is the design team was executed" another great day in cathay
When do you make the video about the PTL02?
The snail is really taking the piss now, they really must get off to our suffering...
Spookston: wait, Chinese tanks are good? Always have been.
Would be nice if you tried out some simulator battles, for some reason I find it way more fun than realistic (as a ground vehicle only player with my highest BR aircraft being 2.3) and you get a way more better experience in heavies, especially in late-war/post-war stuff since there's no uptiers and your worst enemy in upper mid BR as a heavy is the more manageable T-44-100s, centurion Mk 3s and M-51s.
Hello spookston! Do you think the Leopard 2AV is good at 9.7? I started to wonder about it because it's kinda pretty bad vehicle. Because it has no thermals and almost paper armor in the uptier. So im just wondering about what you think about it? (maybe you got this question before like 20 times and i don't see it so sorry for that)
Would love to see a video on the Turm III
@luke1119411
Жыл бұрын
Nvm, just remembered that you already have one lol
@sway_hybird4984
Жыл бұрын
Lol
dog stung by a bee at the start tho
I am want to see you playing the Ikv 91.
I Just finished smoking crack and spookston posts a video. Wonderfull
Ah yes light tank sponsored CAS, the fun police.
could you do a video on the zrinyi 1 or the leo 2av?
Is it c&c Generals music at the background?
The AMX-30B2 feeling very obsolete all of a sudden...
guess im gonna put my points i left for abrams into it