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“The AK has been involved in numerous conflicts”, as in literally every conflict since it came out of the factory lmao
@roshawn1111
7 ай бұрын
LMFAO even the creator regretted inventing it
@Ripa-Moramee
7 ай бұрын
It's still an accurate statement, however claiming it's been in every conflict since it was manufactured is 100% incorrect.
@kp-legacy-5477
7 ай бұрын
@@Ripa-MorameeCan you name some that arent
@kooliek
7 ай бұрын
@@Ripa-Moramee how is it 100% incorrect? would you be able to name one conflict where it doesn't appear
@shoelessbandit1581
7 ай бұрын
@@kp-legacy-5477without looking it up I'm guessing the Falkland war because both sides were fal chads
The real reason we love 7.62x39 is because of surplus ammo, may your powder stay dry and your barrel stay warm
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
Snorting corrosive salts is funny
@andreaholcock8992
Жыл бұрын
May your brass goblin RSO forever be disappointed
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
@@andreaholcock8992 those guys are the worst
@personnelproton
7 ай бұрын
Well this hasn't aged well...
@elite.s6641
7 ай бұрын
@@personnelprotonlmfao, so true
"The hammer, the sickle, the AK-47." -Ahoy, 2015
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
Timeless video
@kampfpanzerleopard346
Жыл бұрын
@@civilianuseonly Indeed. And now he finally uploaded a new episode of iconic arms as well. Dude is the pinnacle of quality over quantity.
@carterskindle7086
Жыл бұрын
Ahoy has some of the best videos on this platform
@pavelmorozov6599
7 ай бұрын
especially if we are talking about this ak which is an american made arsenal slr107ur...
3:34 you sent his soul flying farther than his body
Not to mention also: familiarity. Law enforcement that tends to use AKs tends to use them in countries where AKs are ubiquitous, and that familiarity aids training and thus capability. It also means that there's a good logistical supply of training ammunition.
@jacklang3314
7 ай бұрын
There's a few police departments in the US that have them a patrol rifles. The first one that comes into mind is a county in Alaska.
One thing to be noted that's interesting is that the reasons why 7.62x39 is not as loved as much as a LEO/Mil round, are that the slow heavy bullet, and generally lower penetrating power are what have given it a new life as a very cheap robust hunting round in numerous platforms from civvie AKs to bolt actions, oh how times change.
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest pleasures in life is magdumping surplus 7.62x39 ammo with friends
@Rokaize
Жыл бұрын
Wrong. You’re just incorrect. The 7.62x39 has significantly more penetration than 556. This is verified in numerous tests even on KZread. The fact it’s so slow and heavy helps it not shatter apart on impact and allows the momentum to carry it through whatever it’s hitting.
@UrbanDefenseSystems
7 ай бұрын
@@Rokaize You guys are both correct. The thing is, the faster 5.56 round can have better AP capabilities against armored plate given the right bullets simply due to the speed. While the AK is much better at shooting through cover even with it's basic ammo. Two different types of potential penetrative capabilities.
@cr1tikal_arc
7 ай бұрын
@@Rokaize nope, higher velocity is much better for penetration. you seemed to have missed the use of the word "generally", meaning it's not in all cases that this is true.
@Rokaize
7 ай бұрын
@@cr1tikal_arc Nope. You are an imbecile.
"Higher caliber weapons with poor penetration are often not chosen as these firearms are capable of overpenetrating" wtf am I listening to xD
@sug8056
6 ай бұрын
I think he meant more rather than poor.
@sug8056
6 ай бұрын
If he said poor he probably meant against body armour because 7.62 is worse at penetrating armour than 5.56
The reason to use it right now asides from appeasing the Soviet-aesthetics enthusiasts is there's no CZ Bren 2 (aka Czech SCAR or Sensible SCAR) cartridge in 7.62x39 yet in-game, for the purpose of LARPing as GIGN.
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
From what I've heard, the Bren 2 doesn't function well chambered in 7.62x39. Would still be cool to have though.
@justgunsolid
Жыл бұрын
@@civilianuseonly Guess I could have read French to know the field performance ouiiiii. People said couldn’t they just use .300 blackout but then again I remember they’re French.
@agentoranj5858
7 ай бұрын
@@civilianuseonly Civvie bolt carrier lacks the tungsten weights but every 7.62 front end is the same, so civvie 7.62s are over-gassed.
@spartanrangermetro
7 ай бұрын
don't talk about that country-shame of a thing such as the bren
@ALV694
7 ай бұрын
@@spartanrangermetrowhat's wrong with bren 2
I think the AK is an excellent weapon to give to the AI since they seem deadly accurate despite it's recoil and with how heavy it hits the suspects always go down super quick.
Super slick vid! There are some other things that aren't touched upon in Ready or Not: 7.62x39 while very similar to .300 Blackout, might be a tad inferior and a lot of the surplus ammo aren't what you'd call precision shooters even out of an AR in 7.62x39, BUT they are cheap in bulk even with current day events. Helps that it has a huge number of companies producing the round due to its prevalence, compared to 5.45 which is harder to find. The folding stock of certain models. The one depicted in game uses the left side folding stock with latch, a feature that isn't particularly mentioned but something that may come to use for real life. AKs don't have a buffer in the stock, which allows users to use it with the stock folded in a pinch. It's not particularly as accurate or consistent, though for shooting in a car, or needing to deploy it from storage or slung, it's a quick action. Or if you really have no time to deploy that stock, long as there's a round in the chamber, get it off safe and start blasting. The manual of arms isn't as fast or intuitive vs an AR, but if you're wearing thick gloves, the big controls are easy to work with and its function is pretty easy to understand. This comes hand in hand with its use in colder environments, where you'd probably wanna stay warm whilst using it. Nonetheless, while the AK has flaws, it was designed with the duty to be used in combat. Its long time service, huge array of aftermarket support that very few other weapons barring the AR15 can match and proven track record mean that it's gonna be around for a while.
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
Great points! And for CQB, surplus ammo is probably accurate enough to do the job
@ALV694
7 ай бұрын
Plus there are different types of AKs made by a bigger assortment of manufacturers from a variety of countries that are either Nato or non nato in standard
@rustys.1070
7 ай бұрын
.300blk is weaker than 7.62x39, and 7.62x39 ARs are horrible.
AKs are more accurate than 80% of shooters can shoot, this whole accuracy argument is just annoying at this point, it only started off as American propaganda during the Cold War.
Bigger bulkier projectile that can deliver more energy to the target whilst having less armor penetration than 5.56 (which might be a advantage as main goal of the law enforcement agencies are to arrest people alive rather than kill them) might be more helpful. also the fact that 5.45x39 ,7.62x51 nato, 7.62x54r, 5.56x45 can not have a good subsonic loads ( the 5.45 subsonic loads were massive failure to the point where it couldn't leave the barrel of AK74 and was only able to be fired from AKS74U with alterations to it's gas system) Makes it even better for suppressing (also the subsonic 7.62x39 was what inspired 9x39) lastly the fact that you only need 300mm of barrel to get the best out of the cartridge makes it a appealing option and hence you see the AK-103,4 or Bren 2 in 7.62x39 still being in service.
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
Very good point on subsonic loads.
'The AK is a rifle that needs no introduction'' *Proceeds to give an introduction*
I really want the AK74M to be added. The caliber makes much more sense since it's closer to 556
@cool06alt
Жыл бұрын
Not only it is closer to 5.56, but it got less recoil and has better wounding profile using just it's ball munition/standard point version. AK-100s series are basically capable of using both NATO and Soviet rounds, this include 7.62x51, 7.62x54, 5.56, 5.45
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
Would make a lot of sense, and looks a lot better than the ak in game
@OperatorMax1993
8 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if there would be enough 5.45x39, but I'd like to see one as well
@OperatorMax1993
8 ай бұрын
@@civilianuseonlyconsidering we have tons of AR variants as we're finally get a bullpup (would be awesome to see the Ukrainian 7.62x39 malyuk/vulcan bullpup), would be neat to see a few AK variants as well. Maybe a VZ-58 or Norinco Type-56, a CMMG MK47 Mutant, Polish 5.56 Beryl rifles, and 5.45 AKs, etc.
@civilianuseonly
8 ай бұрын
@@OperatorMax1993 I'd want to see AK variants used by real police forces in the game.
i know this video is old but you forgot the most important part about why people use AKs: they look cool
Also, 5.45x39 has superior wounding profile than 5.56x45, it's called poison bullet afterall. It's one thing to design high velocity rifle round that can penetrate, but AK can also be made to shoot one that slightly slower than AR-15's rounds but basically "flipping wildly" when stuck in flesh. And something like 9x39mm that chamber AS VAL/VSS Vintorez basically have this small pocket of air to allow more volatile movement of bullet into the flesh, even more messier wound that could be caused.
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
The wound channels of 5.45x39 are psychotic
@Joewest2k11
7 ай бұрын
You mentioned the VAL, you get a like!
@nestorarcilaosorio2457
7 ай бұрын
They are civilian hunting rounds in 556 that outperform 5.45 by a lot. Also the latest 556 M855A1 is nasty.
@czwarty7878
7 ай бұрын
really, the "poison bullet" myth in 2023?
@nestorarcilaosorio2457
7 ай бұрын
@@czwarty7878 thats internet for you.
the french GIGN uses 7.62x39 a lot with their CZ Bren 2, because it packs a punch and is not as cumbersome as any rifle chambered in 7.62x51 NATO. Also, they care a lot more about stopping power rather than penetration. They made that choice of ammunition before .300 blackout became popular.
So what I got from this video is we should expect a polar bear boss fight in an upcoming Ready or Not update.
AKs are heavy??? 90% of Aks in the wild are stamped and have comparable weight to average M-4s..
@gleaminggreen6191
Ай бұрын
The ammunition, 762 is larger thus heavier than 556, what a gun on a m4/ar platform uses
I was gonna throw shade for the... hit or miss quality in the vid. buuuut eh fuck it. it was 10 months ago. plenty of time to get better at making things. deff throwing out a lotta myths as common sense tho'
they should put the 5.45x39 akm 74u or the 100 series, its the same as 5.56 but cooler
Love the legend of the Alaskan police AK's. Would love to study some high quality photos to build one with an Alaska state trooper theme !
@civilianuseonly
7 ай бұрын
Likewise - it's such an interesting story
7.62x39 is an accurate round, its range is what is limited
The best thing about SLR47 is you just use the primary rifle with only a flashlight just fine
This channel is going places
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed
Yes 7.62 is a bigger round but 5.56 is just as likely to over penetrate since it is really fast which makes it effective against body armor
Fun fact: author used a video with russian hunter assaulted by a bear, but in the rest of that video hunter not just did not shoot the bear, but even make it out alive
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, KZread does not like videos of animals getting shot
@fawkes7601
Жыл бұрын
@@civilianuseonly he didn't shot the bear tho
Aks are the most badass looking guns ever, every one of them, nobody can tell me otherwise
Finally a new video, great one!
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
Humbled that you were waiting on a new one. Makes it worth all the effort
7.63x39 is just as accurate as 556. AKs are amazing accurate when build tight and of high quality. Not the mass produced ak of the world. But a piece of art
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
Would love to be able to shoot a high end ak
@theamericangamer2696
Жыл бұрын
@@civilianuseonly I've goat a kalishnakov usa 103 pattern with cold forged barrel. Will put 7.62 inside each other at 200 yards iron sights.
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
@@theamericangamer2696 Good to hear KUSA is doing good stuff
I mean a advantage the AK has is that it does exsist in many different calibers, like i would like to see one of the 5.45 or 5.56 variants in the game.
I'm still waiting for them to add 5.45 variant and/or ak-74/12 (though it won't fit the game setting, it will be a good addition nevertheless) And an ability to finally fold your stock is also something that should be in the game :")
@sleepy1066
6 ай бұрын
Granted, the SA-58 is also not really realistic, matter of fact a AK platform being used is more realistic than the SA-58, theres quite a few Police squads in the US that allow their crew to use a weapon of their choice and quite a few choose AKs, especially in Alaska due to the AK handling cold temperatures better on average. I hope they add more AKs in the future, theres AKs like the AK-100 that can be chambered in 5.56 aswell
This gun will finally have a purpose when they release the polar bear level.
I always have a blast with the AK. I really wish they add an official AK 104 eventually, it's still longstroke ofc, but as far as AKs go, it's pretty flat shooting. Interestingly, British SAS have shown some interest in getting a western carbine for 7.62x39, specifically an SBR for use where 7.62 is likely to be abundant. Nothing to do with law enforcement, but pretty cool nonetheless.
5:15 having a supressor in cqb enviorment is bad here are the reasons; - increases the barrel length and it will be harder for you to clear a room without showing your barrel and will be harder to enter to room efficiently - it will be problematic to switch your sidearm because the supressor will be too hot to drop the rifle attached to your sling, that supressor will prolly burn your legs - firing inside a room without supressor will create more voice and pressure which will supress the enemies more succesfully, it will be like small and rapid flashbangs for them
1:08 those are military police, so they use the standard issue rifles like all the other mp's. While the Finnish police use G36's.
AK’s are just as accurate, the myth stems from a multitude of reasons, one being the 7.62x39 being fired out of a standard AKM 16.3in barrel has a MV of 2,300 Ft/s vs 5.56 coming out of a standard M4 14.5 in barrel at 2,970 Ft/s, reducing range for the 7.62 one of the many reasons Russians adopted 5.45 and giving a narrative that it’s not “accurate” wrong it just can’t reach as far shooter dependent tho, another reason which tends to be forgotten is it being widely portrayed to the the “bad guy gun” and the AR platform to be the “good guy gun” by media and cinema which is plagued with false information about firearms in general but you can see where that goes, and with penetration yes the 7.62x39 has potential to over penetrate then the 5.56 (but only on soft targets in comparison)such as just the human body itself. slower heavier rounds carry and retain their weight upon impact of soft targets, and don’t become fragmented when passing through, while smaller faster rounds such as the 5.56 preform better on penetrating hard targets IE, steel or ceramic plates or points of cover the enemy might take, but for soft targets small spitzer shaped rifle rounds like 5.56,5.45,.300blk become fragmented in soft targets at shorter ranges IE a CQB situation inflicting more internal damage as fragments pass through bones, tissue and maybe arteries. I agree there AKs at least 7.62 AKs aren’t the ideal CQB weapon in a law enforcement aspect because 8 out of 10 times your target isn’t wearing armor at least not plates either ceramic or steel, modern AK-74Ms,AK-105s or even a god forbidden 5.56 AK would be great I do hope to see a 105 in the game seeing as the FSB uses it for their law enforcement and CT operations. Also I’m not being a dick about it just a little correction the Mmmm the “it’s not as accurate” claim that’s already been a debunked gun myth for decades
@spawnpeekcentral1399
Жыл бұрын
I’m also just reading some of the comments some people did correct but it’s still nice to put good information out, again not being a dick lol
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
Good points! Yes, perhaps I should have worded it as that 5.56 is more effective at longer ranges. The one thing I would note is that for 5.56x45 specifically, the fragmentation effect happens more reliably with specific ammo (M193) at higher velocities. Some 5.56 cqb guns like the MK18 may not be able to consistently deliver rounds that fragment. But of course, this is mostly me nitpicking. Shot placement is the key factor in how effective any gun will be.
@capt-rex2894
Жыл бұрын
@@civilianuseonly russian law enforcement doesnt use 7.62 any more, they use 5.45 and 9mm, they had the vityaz which was like an ak smg, so pretty much pp 19 ak 74m and ak 105s for the fsb, with zenitcostuff
@SGTcz90cz
7 ай бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I heard this is... AKs are less accurate, but for the difference to be noticeable, you need to compare vs a 20" 5.56 barrel, and you need to be out at 500m, AND the guns need to be in a vice. Which translated into "Yes, technically less accurate, no, you will not even notice in practice."
I love using a Suppressed AK47 in RoN. It drops enemies faster than the SCAR that I was running
I can't wait for the next update in Ready or Not where they add polar bears into the game as another hazard, making the ak a viable solution for clearing igloos and cabins.
very good video plus 500 social credit
Fun facts about the 7.62x39 round compared to the 5.56x45, due to the 7.62s fatter round with less powder it actually has a tendency to have less velocity meaning it will penetrate less than the 5.56, in a AK with a shorter barrel you could see how this would be seen as a better round to use compared to the 5.56 in many situations. 7.62 is also worse against armour since the round is bigger but with less powder since the projectile itself is heavier it also drops off quicker, the upside of this bigger round is that it makes it INCREDIBLY effective in terms of lethality, if you can land hits on non-armoured spots with JHP rounds that person is practically dead in 1-2 shots, armour would get hit so hard it would dent or shatter, causing heavy bruising. So this gun would most likely knock most people unconscious or on their ass with 1-2 shots to the plate carrier.
good choice comrade
You can almost write a whole book on AK myths. The reason it isn't used as much in the USA is primarily because it's been seen as the weapon of the enemy. Not due to any real negatives.
@Schaden-freude
7 ай бұрын
Uh, it's a bit more federal than that. The real reason is that the US bans imports of most of these rifles.
@UrbanDefenseSystems
7 ай бұрын
@@Schaden-freude It didn't for a long time. It's a much more recent issue. Like I said, for many years it was seen as a commie gun and the propaganda was in full force. Nowadays yes, that is the biggest issue. Now that gun owners are a little smarter, now we can't buy Chinese or Russian imports.
300. Blackout JHP is op, can delete enemy after 1 shot in hand or leg
the actual reason is that they dont have a better one and dont want to spend money on the police rifle program. Like cmon, its Russia
@notjebkerman6207
7 ай бұрын
Alaska is in the United States.
The 7.62x39 just punches harder, but has been proven to do worse against the 5.56x45 when it comes to penetration. It's slower, and heavier. There's not a huge difference; it is very a powerful round. But the 5.56 remains the "better cartridge", on paper that is. I'd assume that in theory, the 7.62x39 is generally better suited for combat (without taking accuracy into account, that is) due to simply packing a bigger punch thanks to the projectile having more mass than the 5.56's, potentially having more stopping power against targets both with and without body armor. Still. There's no question, 5.56x45 has better penetration all around.
AK switched from 7.62x39 to 5.45 quite long time ago.
I like the vid but there's no basis behind that statement of AKs are less accurate than the AR15 also comparing 762 to 556 isn't a fair comparison in my opinion because with the right ammo 556 going to go through a lot more than 7.62 will moving a lot faster
Brother, in russia the flashbang police use is so powerful that depending on the size of the room and if there is no windows or the windows are closed, the pressure generated from the explosion can easily kill someone. Why would they care about over penetration? I mean, look at Beslan school siege they used multiple T-72 tanks into a hostage situation lol nice video anyways
3:30 best clip
Where is Val or Vintorez,why this weapon not in the game 😭
I like being the one guy that uses the AK cause honestly. The short package with an intermediate cartridge works great in CQB, working tighter corners is a big bonus. Also I just love the AK platform, the only thing I wish RON had was the p320 or a few dif cal glocks so I can run a glock in 45 acp. The only other rifle I would use is probably a Galil Ace I would love to see one of them get introduced.
I tested all the guns in RON and found out G36 is easily the most deadliest weapon out there to go for deadly cleansing. It was very frustrating to shoot something like 3-4 rounds with any SMG and barely seeing any glimpse of surrendering or dying.
I'snt a lot of special forces used ak back in the cold war?
Have you heard of 5,45x39 tho? Lots of AKs are chambered in that and that's what most russian military and spec ops uses x)
my uncle used to work for a police department that let you use your own gear with review of what you want to use and permission, and he chose to run an AKM style rifle as his rifle of choice.
you say the 7.62x39 has a greater risk of over penetration, are you sure? It is a heavier projectile with a lower muzzle velocity than 5.56x45mm therefor lower chance of over penetration? Unless you are confusing it with a different NATO cartridge 7.62x51mm which I'm pretty sure will have a greater chance of over penetration?
@fen3311
7 ай бұрын
Weight carries penetration better. 7.62x39 is known for its ability to penetrate cover fairly better than 5.56
@Wrathington
7 ай бұрын
@@fen3311 apparently so I looked into it a little bit more because I couldn't sleep, apparently cover it penetrates better because it is less likely to ricochet which makes sense due to a higher mass projectile and more energy. However if it doesn't ricochet (which it won't on soft tissue or armour) higher velocity and a smaller surface area should over penetrate (the target) better? So I'm guessing if you hit the target and there is a civilian or something you don't want to hit behind the target 7.62x39 is better? If you are spitting lead everywhere fully automatic or are a terrible shot you are more likely to penetrate cover and cause collateral damage through light walls with the 7.62x39 maybe?
@fen3311
7 ай бұрын
@@Wrathington Yeah close enough. Tiny fast bois like 5.56 will use their speed and thin profile to penetrate armour better, but they tend to break and fragment after that. Which goes for any other barrier too, not that they wont fly through a few drywalls. At the end of the day the differences are tiny enough that you're squeezing out tiny tradeoffs, usually 5.56 comes out ahead.
@benfennell6842
7 ай бұрын
@@Wrathington these are really really minor differences compared to the main thing, which is simply are you using pentrating ammo like FMJ or are you using non penetrating ammo like Hollows. This is gonna make infinitely more difference than the minor dfferences between 5.56 and 7.62*39, Chances are if 556 will go through a thing, 99% of the time 7.62 would and vice versa.
HK417 with 7.62x51 is the supreme gun.
Why does it have such an inconsistent full auto rate of fire? it stutters for some reason
@benfennell6842
7 ай бұрын
I feel this so hard
This is a really good video on AKs in law enforcement, just don't know what this has to do with Ready or Not
Very interesting.
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
Aks are very interesting
Most use it because it's an AK, I use it because it's the closest I'll get to an ASh-12 in ready or not... We are not the same...
"Not as accurate as an AR-15" God that shit triggers the fuck out of me, both rifles are accurate out to their effective ranges. Stop perpetuating this bullshit myth that the AK is inaccurate. My Saiga .223 groups better than my $1000 AR-15.
farewell of slavianka
Why does this only have 150 views?
RIFLE IS FINE
you sound like dathi de nogla if he didnt have the irish accent
(5:16) In my opinion having no suppressor on your weapon makes it perform better in close quarters combat, the extremely loud noise from firing a weapon indoors paired with a bigger muzzleflash is quite disorientating for the person getting shot at.
Ready or Not needs to fix it's optics, looking at some of those red dots is terrible lmao. It's like a yard away from your face.
WAS THAT A 9 BANGER!?!?!?!?
@civilianuseonly
7 ай бұрын
Yep, looks like it's not in the game anymore
@goober2077
7 ай бұрын
sad@@civilianuseonly
I totally didnt get the point about how .223 is better at police operations than 7.62. Well first- 5.56 ment to deal max damage after penetration be it shattering or more violent energy transfer than bigger cal. Its bone blender and police need to arrest, not to execute. They're not counter terror. And bullets anyways will, if given the chance, overpenetrate many obstacles like dozen of drywalls, multiple doors and if shot too close even a brick wall (go look up how mosin-nagant in 7.62х53 almost shoots throguh rail. AK-74 and AR-15 might shoot through brickwalls). And main reason why some countries use ak for special operations is that army is traning with it and operators usually chosen from infantry or other branch. With police however its too complicated. Sometimes army trains them treating same as recruits, sometimes its armed forces of state agencies (taxes, border, anticorruptional bodies) and its something inbetween of PMC and millitia. Or its just police officers good enough to be trusted a gun PD can buy and traning provided by same department. Its a spectrum from "alot of funds no fredom" to budget judge Dredd cosplay honestly.
I hate how they hold the weapon, why even put a grip?
@bruhtholemew
7 ай бұрын
You'll find a lot of people don't fully wrap their whole hand around grips, usually resting their thumb against the gun, or in a clamp style. I mean just look at the angled grip. You're not supposed to put your thumb through the hole or anything. Anyway that's the combat grip. It looks a little short, stubby, and slightly angled. Probably not the best to fully grasp onto.
556 is fast and Break in to peaces inside a body. This create a big wound, a bear would Not survive that
imagine how compact it would be with a bullpup conversion
@Soluscide
7 ай бұрын
I hate that.
@lieutenanttom9733
7 ай бұрын
@@Soluscide there are some sexy bullpup ak conversions bro you can't deny that
@rustys.1070
7 ай бұрын
@@lieutenanttom9733 I definitely can
hold on, the Ak is only inaccurate to to unfortunately common manufacturing mistakes and the way the irons are used
2:30 that's a nice 7.62 ak
you talk about 7.62x39 in the vid, and it's true for the game, but model in game it looks like modernised AKS-74U with AK-74M stock. AKS-74U was never chambered in this round. And there's no reason for it- would be too damn powerful for already lightened platform and shorter barrel- it weighs less than MP-5A3 and only 3 cm shorter.
@waldowin23
7 ай бұрын
the one in the game is a Bulgarian arsenal slr107ur there are many aks variants not just the standard russian ones
"Overpenetration" SA58 would like to have a word with you.
Rifle is fine.
AK is the best. It is an excellent and deadly weapon.
To say AKs arent as accurate is misleading. Yeah at 400 meters the AR will have a tighter grouping than most AKs but its not like you will not hit the target at 100 meters with an AK and will with an AR besides in CQB law enforcement engagements, weapon weight and how the ammo performs is more important than accuracy. You want a light gun that has little recoil and allows hollow point bullets to expand well to drop suspects easier and not have to worry about overpenetration.
Stamped reciever AKs are quite light. My WASR-10 is significantly lighter than my AR
@UrbanDefenseSystems
7 ай бұрын
A standard AR is lighter than a WASR-10 unless you tacticool your AR or have a bull barrel for precision/hunting.
@rustys.1070
7 ай бұрын
@@UrbanDefenseSystems they're both 7 pounds or less.
@UrbanDefenseSystems
7 ай бұрын
@@rustys.1070 A wasr-10 is listed at 7.5lbs everywhere I look, my WASR 10 feels heavier than my AR as well. You can get an AR down to 6lbs flat still in workable/duty condition, but I've seen people go even lower with 4.5-5lb guns where they use lightweight bolt carriers (I wouldn't trust that) and lightening cuts. All that being said, I trust my WASR more than my AR, so it's not like I am trying to crap on the AK, but facts are facts, it's generally heavier.
@rustys.1070
7 ай бұрын
@@UrbanDefenseSystems online gun weights mean pretty much nothing. larue's website had the shipping weight listed for many years. I don't think their rifles are all 17 pounds.
@UrbanDefenseSystems
7 ай бұрын
@@rustys.1070 Though that is true, it's quite obvious when it's the shipping weight vs actual rifle weight, since you're not getting a 17lb rifle unless you're shooting some PRS competition abomination.
didnt think the RON AK used 7.62. thought it was based of the AK74 series. so 5.45MM
@rustys.1070
7 ай бұрын
did you look at the magazine
7.62x39 has way, WAY less penetration than 556.
0:38 wait why you say "high caliber weapons with low penetration are not chosen" and then immediately after you say they over-penetrate? Either is a contradiction or I missed the point 'cause i thought a low penetration was a good thing
@waldowin23
7 ай бұрын
its terminal ballistics a 5.56 round is supposed to shatter inside the human body and fragment so the bullet doesn't just fly cleanly through you but 7.62x39 is a way older bullet made before terminal ballistics were understood so it just hits you, maybe tumbles and goes through you and because the bullet is way heavier it retains its momentum
@Delta92F
7 ай бұрын
@@waldowin23 yes but the ready or not context where they use very short barrels would it still reach the right velocity? I don't know but I doubt.
@waldowin23
7 ай бұрын
@Delta92F I don't know I'm pretty sure that 7.62x39 out of a short barrel is still a bit better performing than 5.56 because 5.56 relies almost completely on velocity
@Delta92F
7 ай бұрын
@@waldowin23 at the end is a very specific topic, would be cool if some youtuber did a dive on this argument and run some test.
3:07 is that guy tom hanks or do I need to put my glasses on?
the slr 106 is a 5.56
@rustys.1070
7 ай бұрын
this is an SLR-107
1:07 🇫🇮 Finland mentioned!!!
Most eastern police agency's use a mix of not only ak47's and akm's but the ak74 witch fires 5.45 by 39mm witch is similar to 556, not only that but the rifle that is seen in ready or not is literally NOT a real gun, its an aks74u frame with a akm pmag shoved into the bottom of it, it should fire 5.45 but with that magazine it fires 7.62??? kind of stupid but its not the only gun goof in the game, not only that but a US law enforcement officer likely would not be able to use that rifle due to some sort of code or some law. Or maybe even department policy on patrol rifles. For a selling point of making the game super realistic they kind of just fucked up on this one. Also, its been proven that yes the ak is reliable but it is just as reliable in an urban setting as a ar15.
@waldowin23
7 ай бұрын
its a real gun its a Bulgarian arsenal slr107ur there is a huge world of ak variants not just the ones made in russia
1:20 no and absoluitely wrong, a 7.62x39 does not have greater risk of over penetrating but quite the opposite
@waldowin23
7 ай бұрын
7.62x39 retains energy way more than a 5.56 round
This AK in Ready or Not is in 5.56. As far as I know, the SA-58 is the only 7.62 rifle in the game
@lilacsnek6724
7 ай бұрын
Unless they fixed the caliber in the 1.0 update. I distinctly remember when choosing jhp or ap that it said 5.56 or 5.45. Definitely wasn't 7.62 despite the gun markings and mag saying 7.62 (It confused me enough to see if it was a bug when I saw not far back). There are AK platforms in 5.56/5.45 cal, especially 5.56 in the usa. I've even seen one in a gun store in 9mm. The issue isn't the caliber with the AK, it's the fact that it's just less versatile and modular than the AR platform. The AK platform just isn't that good at being adapted and configured to most police uses. That and having police trained with a specific weapon platform is very ideal. That's why nearly every police force rifle looks like a AR-15, but with different lengths, rail mount locations, and sometimes different calibers (excluding SMG's). Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though. I don't really know why I wrote this aside from it bugging me that it seemed like they acted like every AK is in 7.62. That's like saying every Glock is 9mm, every AR is 5.56, and every FN is in 5.7
@civilianuseonly
7 ай бұрын
@@lilacsnek6724 That is an interesting note, because the mag really does make it seem like a 7.62x39
@lilacsnek6724
7 ай бұрын
@@civilianuseonly I looked at the game for the first time after 1.0 released and yeah it is now 7.62. My other points still stand though. I don't really think its the cartridge's fault, but the platform itself that makes it a very niche and rare use enforcement rifle. It's only real perks are It's reliability under abuse and the abundance of 7.62 variants and the ammo for it. Still surprised tohear that the 7.62 variant saw use but not the 9mm
@rustys.1070
7 ай бұрын
it has always been in 7.62x39
@lilacsnek6724
7 ай бұрын
@@rustys.1070 the few weeks after it was introduced it was 5.56. I remember me and my friends at the time having a whole conversation about the existence of 5.56 ak's because of it
Whats the Music at the Begin?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but since 7.62 is a larger bullet moving slower, doesn't that help mitigate overpenetration compared to 5.56?
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
I'm not an expert, but from what I understand, the size of the 7.62x39 enables it to penetrate thicker types of cover that 5.56x45 would not be able to. But the most important factor for limiting overpenetration of either round will be using appropriate ammo (Hollow points, frangible) over FMJ rounds.
@zed6234
Жыл бұрын
@@civilianuseonly Huh. Fascinating, I figured it wouldn't get through.
@Justin-rq6kf
Жыл бұрын
No, the 7.62 will retain more stability and speed after penetration. The 5.56 has more penetration capability due to its higher speed, but looses it faster after penetrating an object.
@benfennell6842
7 ай бұрын
Penetration is really complicated but the main two things are rigidity and energy. Energy is Mass*velocity and Rigidity is, well, are we firing pepper balls or steel slugs?
"Not as accurate as ar15s" (In an cqb context) I feel that video is not as well researched.
3:15 *craps pants*
@civilianuseonly
Жыл бұрын
Ready or not is scarier than any horror game I've played
It's trash; Alaska SWAT(who uses AK, probably because these deal with freezing much better than AR do) used normal length barrel AK as far as I have seen photos of.
3:14 lol
Polar bears...? Bro.
@civilianuseonly
8 ай бұрын
www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/04/12/aks-among-u-s-police-departments/
@yoloactual6975
8 ай бұрын
@@civilianuseonly The fact that you don't understand what I'm saying to you is honestly embarrassing. For you that is.
XboxAhoy at home:
Lol 5.56 is more than capable of killing a polar bear, one shot to the right spot and it's dead, hell one shot to the main mass is probably enough to stop it in it's tracks. I think it's clear you have that movie or "common knowledge" more than actual reality, like calling the Ak reliable. Some forms of Ak are definitely not reliable, such as Chinese AK's, and they are indeed still of the AK platform so they do count. Also the "5.56 more accurate!" again it depends, 7.62 from a standard russian AKM is extremely accurate, and there is not a whole lot of difference noticeable over 5.56 until you get to very far ranges, of which are almost certainly irrelevant to law enforcement. For what 5.56 lacks in size, it makes up in velocity. Nevertheless it's still a rifle round, small diameter or not it will turn your insides into jelly that's been dropped on the floor (a literal quote from a trauma surgeon (Peter Rhee)). Both are extremely effective rifles and proven platforms, the most important differences between the 2 I will list: - 7.62x39 is a larger round - 5.56x45 is a smaller round, but is in general much faster (considering standard rounds fired from the same barrel length) - AR-15 type platforms generally have a wider range of customizability, with many picatinny rails apart of the body or able to be mounted to the body - Ergonomics, how a rifle feels in someone's hands is an important (but subjective) factor - How much ammo you can carry, due to 5.56x45 being an overall smaller cartridge, you can carry much more of it in the same space. This was in fact, widely considered the reason for the US military favoring it.
@rustys.1070
7 ай бұрын
you've never seen even a black bear in your life, or an ak. are you 14 years old, or european?