I think Aphrodite is the reason why the Greek world is always in chaos not even Ares can pull this and he's just observing from a far.

@aengusog3415

2 жыл бұрын

Love and war are usually hand in hand

@celestialhylos7028

2 жыл бұрын

@@aengusog3415 Ares and Aphrodite are lovers after all.

@gregorysaugustine5236

2 жыл бұрын

As the old saying used to say: everything is fair in love and war

@Momus425

2 жыл бұрын

Really more of Eris’s doing than anyone else

@PatRick-zi3ok

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, it's Eris the Goddess of Discord. She is the principal architect of this war. Or maybe Zeus himself? Coz he arrogantly prevents Eris from attending the marriage that leads to Eris's wrath.

I don't care what anyone says, Paris was a big fool.

@Alphapkmn

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@kylewolfkind

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, a big fool, arguably the biggest. He was also a coward who didn't deserve someone as beautiful as Helen, but he sure did deserve a cowards fate.

@Alphapkmn

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylewolfkind Coulda ruled the world or had eternal victory but NOOO he decided to listen to the head below his belt!

@Masterchief__

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylewolfkind EXACTLY.

@Sunnyislive25498

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

The Trojan war is one of the greatest wars mankind has ever seen...I'm glad that someone is explaining it,PROPERLY.

@ericnancy4385

2 жыл бұрын

You said it ! 👍

@agniswar3

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 👍

@seandeans1279

2 жыл бұрын

To bad this ISNT being explained properly. I suggest yall actually read the Iliad

@candyqueen0064

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I had only ever known about parts of it, but never heard the story in such detail 😍

@overvoid6691

2 жыл бұрын

Agree

Soo not only did Paris take the queen, he actually robbed the king!! Absolute betrayal!

@chrisedwards3214

2 жыл бұрын

Helen left willingly

@ecurewitz

2 жыл бұрын

Helen chose to go with him, however robbing the treasury was total uncool

@IBTU

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisedwards3214 she was kidnapped

Oh boy. This visit was meant to IMPROVE Troy's relations with Sparta. The result: wife stealing and ransacking the treasury. Yay!

Morale of the story: If you meet someone hotter than you... Don't invite them to your house, and don't ask your loved one to dress nicely for them

@user-oy6mz4zp5k

2 жыл бұрын

Yep🤭

@shenmian9769

2 жыл бұрын

its from pride and to boast

@stonem0013

2 жыл бұрын

yeah Menelaus shoulda told Helen to wear sweatpants and hoodie and no makeup lol...trouble is she still woulda looked smokin

@artofwrick

3 ай бұрын

Moral of the story: there is no moral in good stories

Helen was struck by Eros's arrow,okay,but what about Paris ? Doesn't he know that she is the wife of someone who trust and like him so much.

@danieldevine7972

2 жыл бұрын

Helen was promised to Paris by Aphrodite, and after seeing how beautiful Helen is, he wanted the Spartan Queen to be his, regardless if she was married to Menelaus or not. He doesn’t consider the consequences of taking Helen from Sparta, which is why he’s an idiot who ultimately led to Troy’s downfall (as was foretold to happen).

@h30aneenaelizabethroy72

2 жыл бұрын

@@danieldevine7972 We all understood that Paris prefers beauty or beautiful girls than wisdom or wealth or power at the time he gave the apple to aphrodite.Ya but it's natural to fall in love or get attracted to beautiful girls and he chose aphrodite's offer as it his choice and no harm comes to others other than him with that choice. But even after knowing that she is the wife of menelaus to whom he should be faithful, he still chose beauty over good relation,friendship,trust and all.He cheated menelaus and also after getting Helen he took money and wealth from sparta. He is an idiot and cheater. He fell in love with her beauty and not her. Wasn't it Odysseus who chose Penelope who was intelligent over Helen who was beautiful??

@h30aneenaelizabethroy72

2 жыл бұрын

And yes Aphrodite is a main reason for all these..

@thomasdaywalt7735

2 жыл бұрын

In the prequel myth paris earned her via aphrodite in a beauty contest

@thomasdaywalt7735

2 жыл бұрын

@@danieldevine7972 Hector goes (you had one job paris one job

Aphrodite should be called the goddess of Destruction, because that what she does, it's her influence that caused the Trojan war and it may or may not be her fault that Zeus always cheats on his' wife (though if that's the case it's still his' fault for not having any self control)

@gregorysaugustine5236

2 жыл бұрын

Some historian think that Aphrodite is a reimagining of Ishtar, the mesopotamian Goddess of love and WAR. She's the queen of heaven and while she love many mortal, she also brings them misfortune. That's why Gilgamesh rejected her offer of marriage.

@haakontherayquaza4046

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregorysaugustine5236 ouch, definitely not the best role model

@ecurewitz

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregorysaugustine5236 she was influenced by Ashtarte, who was in turn based on Ishtar

Didn’t realize he robbed sparta. Leonidas: this is sparta!!

In the original legend Helen never left with Paris, he actually abducted her against her will, I don’t know if she had any feelings for him at the time but I know that she never ran away willingly.

@pendragonsxskywalkers9518

2 жыл бұрын

She left willingly according Iiad. She states herself that she willingly left her family, not was kidnapped. Yes, she regretted (beacuse of war and everything), but neverthless she chose him earlier and refers him as her husband, not abductor. Also in Saphho poetry and in Ovid's Heroides Helen ran away with her own free will, not was kidnapped.

@travisoliver6741

Жыл бұрын

@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Like 99% of the stories tell us that Aphrodite made Helen run away with Paris, which by our modern standards is coercion. Even the Aeneid, which is notoriously anti-Greek, has Venus save Helen from Aeneas' misplaced wrath because she did nothing wrong. Also, thanks Venus for saving the woman's whose life you ruined from your absolute garbage excuse for a son. But for some reason, the Greeks had this weird thing where, even in literal legends where the gods are responsible for nearly everything, humans get blamed for crimes the god explicitly make them commit. For example, Hera is responsible for Herakles murdering his entire family...so Herakles is responsible for the crime, and after following the oracle guided by Hera, he has to do his famous labours.

@pendragonsxskywalkers9518

Жыл бұрын

@@travisoliver6741 Aphrodite and Eros are SYMBOLIC metaphore of lust 🤦🏻‍♂🤦🏻‍♂ There is no coercion at all. Woman who inspired Helen run away with her lover and Greeks interpreted this that she was made by desire that taken over her and later made story about Helen. That's what it looks like. Eros is responsible in myth by all desire. So Paris was also "coerced" And whenever any character in greek myths fall in love, they were coerced. Ancients Greeks didn't view love as choic but as act of Gods. By moden standars Helen fell for Paris and left beacuse she loved him.

@diligentjeans6416

11 ай бұрын

@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 then what she did is called adultery

The last part of the narration gave me goosebumps 💥💥

I just realized something, this might also be the inspiration of GRRM of Game Of Thrones regarding the conflict of Robert Baratheon and Rhaegar Targaryen about the lie about Lyanna Stark being kidnapped by Rhaegar when they both in fact fell in love and ran away together.

@sim8051

2 жыл бұрын

I see it.

@travisoliver6741

Жыл бұрын

It was also definitely inspired by the fall of Camelot (Ned slaying the Kingsguard at the Tower of Joy is based off of Lancelot's shenanigans at the Joyous Gard

These animations are amazing!

The worst part about this all is that Paris wasn't even trick into any of this. This is his own greed and lustful ambitions.

I still can't believe that people blame Helen for the Troyan war instead of Aphrodite, Eros and Paris :/ Paris was an idiot. Also, i can't wait to hear how Hera beat the tartarus out of Artemis with her own bow.

@agniswar3

2 жыл бұрын

What are talking about.

@despinasgarden.4100

2 жыл бұрын

@@agniswar3 i'm talking about how so many people blame Helen for the Trojan war when she literally didn't do anithing

@agniswar3

2 жыл бұрын

@@despinasgarden.4100 not that. I want to know the Hera and Artemis thing you are talking.

@despinasgarden.4100

2 жыл бұрын

@@agniswar3 ohhhh, well, basically in the Trojan war Artemis wanted to get revenge on Hera for all the thinks she did to her, her mom and Apollo, but Hera snatched her bow of her hands and hit her in the head with it multiple times.

@agniswar3

2 жыл бұрын

@@despinasgarden.4100 really? To be honest this is the first time I am hearing of this. It seems like I had to read the entire Iliad.

Love your channel since my obsession of all time is history and it is great that your channel mainly focuses on history and MYTHOLOGY, my favorite! Love your channel soooo much! Keep up the great work! You taught me a lot about history! Especially you make history in the form of comics really make it easy to understand!!!

The best explanation so far. ❤ keeping this for future reference for my children. Thank you.

Yes I've been waiting for this!

Wow! Never heard it explained like this.

Another amazing video this looks so awesome your videos are the best keep up the awesome work

I truly like this Chanel keep it up your job is great

Very good as always!

Love how the story is being told

Ares and Aphrodite take the phrase everything is fair in love and war very seriously

This is awesome.. Good job.. :)

Helen is beautiful but so naive just like what Odysseus said. I'm sure that she will still fall in love with Paris even if Eros never use his arrows.

@pendragonsxskywalkers9518

2 жыл бұрын

I personally think that love and Eros was inseparable because the first was result of the first. But I don't think she was naive. She just fall in love. Maybe she - and he - were bit naive that they will be unpunished, but many greek princes eloped before (Ariadne, Medea) and no one started war beacuse of it. Paris and Helen couldn't predicted what will they cause, beacuse there was no precedent.

@Carat-staytiny-exol._.

Жыл бұрын

​@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 so cuz of *love* she left her husband , her children , her land . I call that not naivety , not love . She ran away for lust . (In case she wasn't abducted)

Honestly, I get why Paris stole Meneleus' wife for love and all that, but he didnt have to add insult to injury by robbing the temple too. They could've negotiated about Helena but to plunder a temple??? Yeah he was just asking for it at that point.

Amazing could you also tell about the mythology of Cygnus and Lionet i've been curious about them

the music at the end 😍

It’s not exactly Aphrodite’s fault since she is the goddess of beauty and love, which even with her beauty, it attracted Paris and he just wants the most beautiful lady in the world than power and victory. It was mainly because Paris was too dumb and young, which is why he chose Aphrodite. If I were him, I’d either give the Apple of Discord to Athena, since she is the goddess of wisdom and never lost a fight, or if I wanted to have the most handsome man in the world, being the ruler of the entire Asia, and want victory whenever there is a war, I would’ve sliced the apple into three pieces and give it to the three of them. 😔 Paris is just too dumb.

the previous battle between the achaeans and the trojans was as mentioned conducted by Hercules, who with with fewer men and in less time managed to conquer the city. he was basically op.

👍 very good.

Did he just say handsome in the very end out of nowhere🤣

@truthspreader1996

2 жыл бұрын

I heard it to.

Not the first, but glad that i'm quite early

There was this painting of Helen by Polygnotus if I'm not mistaken it was describe " In her eyes, one could read the story of trojan war "

Oh here we go this is where things get intense

Hey do you know there is an entire Italian channel "storie e mitologie illustrate" that is using your videos as they are?

Very good story. And god Ares face reminds mine during my period;)

Ares' face at the end reminded me of that Pikachu meme.

5:18 "Handsome"?

@KkKk-oy6rn

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@ihateyouall4641

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

What was the last word said by narrator at 5:19 ? "Handsome"?

Funny how Paris was so strong and brave in the beginning but a coward during the war

@diligentjeans6416

11 ай бұрын

I am personally offended that Paris did this and showed no remorse

Hmm...this sparks a pet theory of mine. Historically speaking; I think that if there was a Helen or Helen figure during the time of the Trojan War, the "love affair" could have been a misunderstanding based on what Spartan witnesses saw. I think the Spartan treasury was Paris' actual goal the whole time and Helen was taken as a hostage. There's plenty of time between their little boat ride back to Troy and the arrival of Menelaus and the rest of the Greeks for Stockholm Syndrome to kick in. That would explain why the Greeks would think she was bewitched by Aphrodite, wouldn't it? I could be wrong, but I think it's very possible that that's how it happened.

@TheMormonSorceress

2 жыл бұрын

Or perhaps she purposefully went back with Paris because she and her husband were planning on taking down Troy.

It's only an abduction if she didn't wanna go, and it sounds like she REALLY wanted to go (then again, the king wouldn't know that) :P

Where can I find this comic

soundtrack ?

Wow! Someone please let me know if this is just a work of fiction or did 'Fall of Troy' happened for real? Really curious to know😫

@markotv6761

2 жыл бұрын

Just fiction

@JonathanGhost42

2 жыл бұрын

Some parts might be real, but other parts (the more supernatural ones) are definetly fake.

@nika8967

2 жыл бұрын

The trojan war is mythology, but there's always the possibility that some parts and/or humans might be extremely loosely based on real events or people

@LionSandals

Жыл бұрын

Before you continue to read this reply, keep in mind that I am not that educated and I heard this information quite a while ago, so I might get some things mixed up. It is unknown as to whether or not this story in itself was fiction or not, however the city of troy itself was probably real. The only reason that we cannot find the remains is because of a man called Heinrich Schliemann. Basically this guy heard about where the remains of Troy probably were and he was like “oh dope how about we try and excavate them?”. Unfortunately this guy was too impatient and decided to use dynamite to unearth the remains. However in his dumbassery he ended up destroying the layer that would have contained the remains. So that’s that for you.

Which source reports that Helen fell in love with Paris at the hands of Cupid's arrow? As I remember she was just kidnapped against her will.

@LobasFavoriteChair

2 жыл бұрын

Well that's ONE of the different versions.

@pendragonsxskywalkers9518

2 жыл бұрын

In Sappho poetry (For Anactoria) it was stated that Helen fell in love with Paris ("she did not spare a single thought for her child nor for her dear parents but the goddess of love led her astray to desire"). In Iliad Helena also states herself that she ran away with Paris and she refers him as "husband". In tragedy "Orestes" it is stated Helen ran away, and in Ovid's "Heroides" Helen agrees to elope and marry Paris. Also in many greek vases Eros/Cupid touches Helen brew ensuring her love for prince of Troy.

@SirMerx

2 жыл бұрын

@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Thanks for the feedback

@pendragonsxskywalkers9518

2 жыл бұрын

@@SirMerx You're welcome!

This all happened because Helen stepfather forget to honor Aphrodite

Paris: (Kidnaps Helen of Sparta) Troy: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!

❤️🙏🏴‍☠️

Aphrodite should have been the the War Goddess at this point Instead of love.

@gregorysaugustine5236

2 жыл бұрын

Some historian believe that her worshipped was imported from mesopotamian Goddess Inanna aka Ishtar who is the goddess of love and WAR. Like Aphrodite, she also love many mortal but also caused misfortune and hardships into their lives. That's why king Gilgamesh refuses her advances.

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So did he even rescue his aunt or just stole Helen and the treasury

Robbing the king's treasury was total di"k move

Helen showed Paris the VERY BEST of Greek hospitality

Zeus tricked him he was doomed no matter his choice

Abdication? This is elopement.

@pendragonsxskywalkers9518

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. She left with him beacuse she wanted.

@truthspreader1996

2 жыл бұрын

@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Does the name Eros mean anything to you?

@pendragonsxskywalkers9518

2 жыл бұрын

@@truthspreader1996 Name god of love.

@truthspreader1996

2 жыл бұрын

@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Next question. Did you not see the video and what this so called god of love did?

@pendragonsxskywalkers9518

2 жыл бұрын

@@truthspreader1996 There's some things beyond control. I think it is sad that choosing partner of own will in mythical times cost so much. But we should condemned that world who causing this situation, not two poeple who fell in love and were only tools in gods hands. Today, she would simpy divorce Menelaos with no hard feelings and was happy with Paris. I like their story beacuse of its tragedy. All they wanted was being together but today they are view as selfish.... by people who could freely choose with whom they want be and will never be in their situation. Sad.

So Hector did not travel with Paris as the movie makes us believe

Why aren’t you guys talking of the Ethiopian King Memnon who almost defeated Achilles…

I have to ask what is up with all this kidnapping?

I thought it was unclear that helen willingly gone with paris or paris abductted helen.

Troy series on Netflix is great 👍 waiting for the season 2

@bladeofmiquella1887

2 жыл бұрын

Where they made Achilles black? Nah thanks.

Paris was a big fool.

All this happened because eris got angry that she wasn't invited to a wedding

Was Helen of troy alive when queen Neffertti ruled Egypt

Do not only did he steal his wife he also robbed his treasury Edit: HTF did they think these actions would end

Perhaps I am being too harsh and unfair with Paris here, especially considering how, when the Gods get personally involved, one tends to have little to no say, but Paris really should have known much, much better. I mean, seriously, judging a beauty pageant the contestants of which were Hera, Athena, and Aphrodite?! And if my memory and sources are accurate, long before that beauty pageant took place, he was already married and even expecting a son!

Sigh, forgot about the mission, stole a friendly king's wife and stole the treasury, what more can you do wrong, Paris?

That's what's happening in manzaThis was a taking place in months Given the time And the place But it's one thing to come near your house and be abusive but tbe abusive but to take your gold and your woman now that's a fire starter

Each and every disaster bestowed upon mortals are caused by the Gods!!

This war could have been avoided if Cassandra had just slept with Apollo.

@alisonsayslookup1435

2 жыл бұрын

😁🤭

How easily all of this could have been avoided if paris or helen were just a little bit smart.

Full of sins in these mythologies.

I highly doubt the royal spartan guard could be defeated easily

@Eleni1002

2 жыл бұрын

Sparta became what you're thinking of several centuries later. At this point it was just another Mycenean kingdom/city

Paris didnt force her to leave menelaus could have gotten a new wife

@YNoted

2 жыл бұрын

“Yeah,my lover who’ve I spent half my life with has just been kidnapped,guess i should just find a new wife”

@chrisedwards3214

Жыл бұрын

@@YNoted well he was wealthy enough look what happened when all.know what happened next

@YNoted

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisedwards3214 being married to Helen also carried prestige,also,that would of made him look weak etc.

Because of Paris Thousands of people will suffer and die.

Not even the true history yet people still keep telling it.. I just don't know...

@truthspreader1996

2 жыл бұрын

Explain yourself?

@alisonsayslookup1435

2 жыл бұрын

@@truthspreader1996 From researching I have found that they really went there to destroy their history and plunder resources..this is the cover story...??? And they sure covered alot of History as well..

@truthspreader1996

2 жыл бұрын

@@alisonsayslookup1435 Are you saying this is not just a Greek myth or are you saying this is not how the Greek myth is suppose to go?

@alisonsayslookup1435

2 жыл бұрын

@@truthspreader1996 we all know there is some truth to every fiction..but in all seriousness..history is not what we were taught..best to just keep researching..we all can find our own evidence..believe no one...👀👍🤩😁🤗

OK I can understand thier love 💘due to the intermediate of Eros arrow 🏹 . But looting the country that welcomes you !! This I can't understand ,for it can't be a behavior committed by a prince it's a behavior of thieves and savages

I'm on the Greeks side

Me first view

Not much of an "abduction" as I see it. The one thing the Spartans should have cared about was the Trojans stealing their treasure, not Helen's personal decisions that she made for reasons only she knew. Live and let others live for gods' sake! 😒

@Eleni1002

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't her choice though. Aphrodite was behind all this. Helen was perfectly happy with Menelaus before that and she returns to him after the war.

@truthspreader1996

2 жыл бұрын

@@Eleni1002 Some times I feel like people are not paying attention to the video they just watched. Eros shot Helen with one of his arrows of (controlled) love.

@cornbeefcommie7519

Жыл бұрын

Paris was a big fool. Glad he met his terrible fate.

Maybe I'm only one, but I actually LOVE Paris and Helen story, thery're my beautiful tragic OTP.💞💞💞💔💔💔 They couldn't know what war they will cause. The just fell in love with each other. Also it was gods who led them to this fate - they never actually got a choice. It was their destiny, somethig beyond their control - run away together and starting war. 💔 Yes, Paris chose Aphrodite, but he couldn't have predicted (no one can) whole war thing.

@truthspreader1996

2 жыл бұрын

You've taking this joke to far.

@pendragonsxskywalkers9518

2 жыл бұрын

@@truthspreader1996 I don't understand what's "joke". I really love them as a couple and I'm even trying write my own novel about them. They really inspire me.

@truthspreader1996

2 жыл бұрын

@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Did you not understand the story? How could you say they did nothing wrong? How could you say hey couldn't know what war they will cause? He stole another man's wife and his treasures for that matter!!! Did you even see part 1-4?

@pendragonsxskywalkers9518

2 жыл бұрын

@@truthspreader1996 He fell in love with her. She fell in love with him. If she would be happy with her first husband, she wouldn't left him. I am saying about video, but also in general. If I would fell in love with someone, and they fell in love with me, I would follow my heart. For me, mutual love is the greatest value, and I admire that Paris and Helen have courage to fight for their feelings. Paris and Helen couldn't predict what they love will cause. They just wanted be together. I think people should be sorry for their tragedy, not condemn them. Beside, in mythology was other princesses (like Ariadne and Medea) who elope and did NOT cause the war. Helen couldn't know that in her case things will be different.

@truthspreader1996

2 жыл бұрын

@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Okay, now I'm questioning your clarity of expression; intelligibility. Did you not watch the video? If so what apart are you not understanding about Eros' arrow of control? Did you get two people mix up because Ariadne and Medea are both women....?

Yea, helen should wear hijab

Second veiw

Honestly it would have been better if Cassandra slept with Apollo. She wouldn't have enjoyed it but she could have saved the life of thousands.

@aesthetics3059

2 жыл бұрын

😑😑

@londonmason6129

4 ай бұрын

Sure, she wouldn’t be cursed , but there was still no guarantee that people would’ve believed her anyways, or that Paris wouldn’t have gone through with it. Besides people have the right not to sleep with people they don’t want to

3rd

Helene is nothing but trouble. I would rather have Athena or Persephone As A lover.

@despinasgarden.4100

2 жыл бұрын

The war wasn't even her fault tough

@savagedarksider5934

2 жыл бұрын

@@despinasgarden.4100 I'm talking about all the guys who is going to come after her because her beauty.

@goutamsingh5906

2 жыл бұрын

@@despinasgarden.4100 oh maybe could have just stayed or not let the treasures get looted maybe just maybe

@despinasgarden.4100

2 жыл бұрын

@@savagedarksider5934 ah, that i can undestand, tough Athena wouldn't sleep with anyone and Persephone, well, Look at how Adonis ended up.

@despinasgarden.4100

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with the treasure part

Trojan War Never Happened it is a complete Fiction maybe by Blind Old Men named Homer !