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I remember taming EVERY rare beast in Cataclysm on my hunter when i was 12... good old times.

I actually really like Cataclysm & MoP. Looking forward to MoP more than Cata but will be playing both either way.

@badass6300

2 ай бұрын

Why MoP over Cata?

@tyran5996

2 ай бұрын

@@badass6300 Mop raids and Every class felt good.

@badass6300

2 ай бұрын

@@tyran5996 I'd say Tier 14 was mediocre for the most part, the positives were that there was a lot of content like Tier 11, but tier 11 is amazing. That said ToT and SoO are two of the best raids of all time. Also I think MoP class design suffered a lot, particularly for PVP as it was a CC and Utility hell and ranged were just better than melee. But for PVE they somehow made it so that some specs had simpler and simpler rotations as the ilvl increased due to poor scaling, something that hadn't happened since TBC. Also the lack of talent trees was not nice either.

@WillEmmo

2 ай бұрын

Same about MoP, I get the impression a lot of people see Cata as what TBC was for Wrath - just something inbetween what they are really after. I know i'll like both of them though

@badass6300

2 ай бұрын

​@@WillEmmo For me TBC and Cata are the main dishes and Wrath is awesome, but had a lot of missteps. While MoP had a ton of problems. MoP is the only expansion that I see having more negatives than positives(while progressing through the expansion), I still like it and it still has a lot of top notch content, but definitely my least favorite. Shadowlands maybe comes second in terms of having negatives, but also a lot of top notch content.

The thing i like about Cata that gets over looked.I feel like it was the perfect difficulty and had 3 different raids at the same time!

@RealJohnnyGuillotine

2 ай бұрын

Couldn't do heroic till you completed normal... Plus 10 mans were shit... LFR was a Troll Haven... 2 were gated (Heroic and LFR) Normal Firelands and Heroic was fun... BoT was a gear mill, I did like the 5man Heroics...

@cstu6864

2 ай бұрын

@@RealJohnnyGuillotine How were 10mans bad? LFR wasn't introduced until the final patch, 4.3. I doubt they'll implement it this time around.

@RealJohnnyGuillotine

2 ай бұрын

@@cstu6864 10 mans were notoriously bad for being way over tuned... It's in patch notes... They were a massive mess the entire expac. Doing 10m was damn near impossible unless you were in 25 man gear... That's how it was passed in 10 not as a actual raid but skip that content go do and gear up in 25m then come back and do 10m.... It was a massive problem. You couldn't do it at all in heroic 5man gear. It stayed like that till after firelands... So 2/3rds of the expac 10m raiding was knee capped. I had a Masterfrost DK and Fury War... I had to pull double duty for A & B teams... Shit was awful for 10m so we just started doing only 25m. We gear mill trash runs using 10m not touching bosses because they were overturned. This became clutch to build selling items and buying mats, chants, gems, food, supplies... Then other people caught on and blew up our little niché (Not hating was fun while it lasted) By then we had massive amounts of resources. But yes, 10m raiding sucked... In Cata. Shouldn't have to out gear a current raid just to beat it.

@badass6300

2 ай бұрын

@@RealJohnnyGuillotine 10 Mans were amazing, you have a tight group and all of you had to do mechanics(or almost all). And yeah you can't do heroic until you complete Normal, what do you expect?

@RealJohnnyGuillotine

2 ай бұрын

@@badass6300 you are trash 10m had same lockout/Gear as 25... I don't care how "tight" your comp maybe... You can't pass the checks that is why it was OVER TUNED there were plethora of posts about it back then. You can't pass a gear check in a 10m while wearing 5man dungeon epics, when it was tuned for 25m but you're in a 10m. That's why people only did 25m back then... look it up... I raided, it was horrible for 2/3rds of the expac in 10m Don't care about how "Organized" your comp is if you can't pass checks due to lack of man/gear... Because it was all tuned for 25m... Blue posts exists. Trash is trash, please stop drinking toilet water and puking in my sight.

Cataclysm healing needs a specific mention. Damage profiles of bosses and the power of healers is completely reworked. Triage healing is how Blizzard pitched it originally and it really felt like triage in the first tier. Gone were the days of every heal in your kit topping people off in one cast, and people staying at 50-75% health was not a death sentence. Also mana mattered quite a bit at the beginning of the expansion, but that might not be the case when we revisit Cata as I expect the fights to be a lot shorter in 2024 now that the player base is so much better overall.

@josedavidmunozmartinez4722

2 ай бұрын

This. Cata healing was absolutely delightful… it was sooo damn fun and challenging at the same time. In Cata you can clearly see when a healer is good or bad. No more Hpala/Rshaman/Dpriest/Rdruid spamming a single button without caring about mana. I’m soooo looking forward to heal in Cata once again.

@WillEmmo

2 ай бұрын

Plan to cover this at some point for sure, really enjoyed the bigger hp pools / mana mattering more thing they did back then

@fdajax5107

2 ай бұрын

​​@@WillEmmo Self sustain was very important in helping healers too warriors iirc were pretty much Unkillable in some fights

@andrewa6607

2 ай бұрын

That and you get patch 85.0 where everyone has been buffed 50 times

@Sashan2012

2 ай бұрын

@@fdajax5107 and recouperation for rogues too

Cata was a GOOD expansion. Is not my favorite, but is quite high on my list. I enjoyed EVERYTHING about the expansion. Even Dragon Soul. But probably the best that expac had was the actualy hard heroic dungeons... dungeons with mechanics that mattered and thus were NOT a snoozefest! Every zone was fun to play at least once. Hell i'd say even 2 or 3 times. Yes i did the whole Vash'jir 3 times. After that i avoided it because it wasnt the optimal route to fast level but boy i do have great memories of that zone and it was god damn gorgeous! Archeology was fun for me. I did TONS of archeology to get all the treasures, even the might Zin'Rok! ...To me it was relaxing, flying all over the world to the next dig zone while listening to the zones background music..So good!

@Impuracle

2 ай бұрын

You think you do but you don't.

Just here to give some boost to the algorithm! I'm really looking forward to Cata, and I hope you'll find the time and effort to make videos on it with all the other versions going on at the same time!

@nonickelordime6594

2 ай бұрын

I loved cata, i just got my first apartment when it came out and built my own gaming room and played mage so much.. i dont understand the hate it got, pvp was great

Damn, I remember just how BRUTAL Heroic dungeons were at the launch of Cata, and ZA and ZG were no joke either, especially Jin’do in ZG. Good times.

@bismark9923

2 ай бұрын

Oh boy titan rune cata dungeons lmao

@morfea123

2 ай бұрын

I rolled mage at cata launch to aoe, but ended up sheeping most of time :)

@yoognr1

2 ай бұрын

its sad they nerfed them so hard, it was to hard for many

@scottbowers7431

2 ай бұрын

i think it was the cat boss that was the real pug killer in those days, and zanzil

@zadarthule

7 күн бұрын

Heroic dungeons were not that hard at Cata launch. The main problem was that a lot of random groups failed the damage checks. A fireball with 9% base mana cost was also super expensive. Dropping damage output further.

Cata is going to be interesting. Mechanically it is far superior to something like WOTLK heroics and raids, but attitude people had to it back in the day was less than positive. I don't think I'll play, but I want to read about what people will experience.

@mrmoosetachio

2 ай бұрын

I srtaed playing in Wrath and hated healing because it was so boring. You never ran out of mana and you just spammed your "low efficiency" heals on repeat and everyone lived. Cata was HARD. I remember the heroics being brutal and I loved it. I had to pay attention and learn and use all my buttons

Cata Hype! Let’s go ! Thanks for the video. The guild cannot wait to sink our teeth into fun raids again.

Hello, contragz on the well done informational video of classic series! I got one question about a WA you are using...(Debuff on nameplates). I use it as well, but in my case the debuffs dont overlap the name of the target like in yours. They mix and it becomes harder to track them. Can you share what is the specific setting you use in order to overlap the name for the debuffs? Thank you!

It’s been a good run, enjoy cata fellas

@Gavinbelson

2 ай бұрын

we certainly will!

Can't wait for Classic Legion :)

@General12th

2 ай бұрын

this but unironically

@greenchilistudioz4537

2 ай бұрын

@@General12th Same

@Kmmlc

Ай бұрын

I didn't play during WoD or Legion, and came back in at during Eternal Palace in BfA. I reallllly wanna play those like when they were current.

@user-nr3ei8ji8u

Ай бұрын

@@Kmmlc WoD was a sitting in your garrison simulator, but legion was amazing

The first time I really felt challenged in dungeons. I really dug in and learned how to be a really good tank! Love cata so much!!

I was in a heroic progression guild in cata on Illidan so I'm looking forward to doing it again

1:36 that giant in the back must have a fire spider on its foot.

oh one thing you forgot, cata also introduces craftable pvp gear. can craft (or buy on ah) a full set of blue lvl 85 pvp gear at start of cata, and with each new pvp season a higher item lvl set of blue pvp gear is craftable. So if you got the gold (and/or mats), you can buy pvp gear from a crafter. I just don't remember if the recipes for pvp gear was bought with honor or mats related to craft needed to make them.

Hi Will! I'm really looking forward to Cata.

Gonna try hopping into wrath on a mage to level for cata, started in pandaria so i never got to see any of the older stuff. hopefully i can muddle my way through

I am hoping that they properly tune the 10 man release raids this time. I remember a lot of guilds that fractured in preparation for 10 mans only to have issues because the mechanics and add health were the same as the 25 man. For example, you needed three interrupts per platform on Nefarian in Blackwing Downs. A 25 man raid this was easy to do, a 10 man raid not so much. It usually meant as a DPS that you had to have an interrupt or join a guild/group that was doing 25 man.

people forget the power jump from 80 - 85 is huge, every level was significant, as this was the expansion we got the great increases to hp pool if i remember correctly its like going from 20-100k for a dps and 40-150k for tanks

@badass6300

2 ай бұрын

Yes I do agree that the numbers went way too high and that's because pre-WoD(and especially pre-BFA) the stats scaled super exponentially with ilvl and by Cata they had to up the base player stats so that the players didn't get double the power every tier. I'd don't mind them in Cata, MoP is where they got crazy(no need to mention Legion), but if they squish them I wouldn't mind at all either.

@Melodeath00

2 ай бұрын

​@@badass6300 Pretty sure the hp jump was from your base hp, not from stats. You see it every time you get a new level between 80 and 85. Your stats remain pretty much the same, but your hp magically increases with like 10-20k. Also, Cata never had the same 2ndary stat bonanza as WotLK or MoP. Full Dragon Soul BiS gear 2ndary stats looked more like mid expansion stats from WotLK and MoP. I remember Blizzard themself saying that they did this to promote their new "triage healing" philosophy and to make PvP less bursty.

@tupacshakur5868

2 ай бұрын

just checked, our hunter had 150k HP on our sinestra first kill which should have been around 360-365 ilvl at the time.

Having played Classic until now, I do understand what was lost to the game with Cataclysm. But, Cata was where I finally was in a place in my life to FINALLY play the game with 12 million fans. Plus, as an enjoyer of the RTS games and having read Day of the Dragon many tines over I was stoked to have such an iconic villian as my entry point. The fond memories many have for Vanilla, Cataclysm is where they were made for me.

Cata was when I was peak raiding. Throne of the four winds was probably my favorite raid along with firelands. Bastion of twilight was right up there as well. Heck all the raids were good imo except spine of death wing fight. Horrible horrible boss

@David-hw9si

2 ай бұрын

Both Spine and Madness were bad mechanically and didn't even feel like a cool dragon fight when you're just fighting slimes, elementals, and tentacles.

Hi @WillE, thank you for your Video. Do you think there is a chance that blizzard change 10 men raiding, so we have to do 25men raiding to do the hardest content? Thank you for ur answer!

First tier cataclysm was peak gaming for me, very underrated. I had so much fun!!! Can't wait!

I used to play during cata as a pre teen to teen and I had tons of fun. I remember not really understanding my prot pally needed stam as his main stat until someone called me out for needing on non stam gear and I was so confused haha

Looking forward to experience the WHOLE Cataclysm expansion. It was so good!!

Looking forward to trying this as it's one of the expansions I didn't play

What I remember best about coming into Cata from Wrath the first time around is the difficulty of the dungeons. Wrath dungeons were a joke - we didn't have the alpha/beta/gamma versions originally and so Wrath dungeons were... "easy" would be an understatement. You could just pull basically whole dungeons and be done in 8 minutes. Then when Cata hit suddenly not only did we have to carefully pull trash packs so as not to get any extras (watching patrols, etc), but using CC on marked targets was mandatory. You got yelled at if you accidentally broke sheep with aoe bc it could and often did wipe the group. It was so much harder! Unexpectedly so!

The thing that I hated about cata heroic raiding was the on the fly difficulty swap (just like icc). It made it so that progression was just "wipe on this boss 15x, then swap to normal, faceroll it and move on" I loved the thrill of defeating a new boss and finally getting to see what was beyond it. But live difficulty swap combined with choose your own boss order raids killed that for me.

looking forward to the pvp

@Gavinbelson

2 ай бұрын

its so fun

@toraso842

2 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie pvp was fun here rated bgs and such guild achievements etc.

Hey WillE If i have 75k honor when cata releases and only 4k will stay and 71k honor per point of honor will turn into 35silver. 35x71k is 2,485,000 silver which also equals 24,850 gold???? am i misunderstanding or should i be chillin in bgs rn lol?

I would love to see an updated ranking of your favorite and least favorite classic raiding, now that WotLK Classic is concluding.

Cata was the first expansion I really started raiding hardcore in. Has some of my favorite raids. Can’t wait to get back in it.

I will be playing. When does cata actually start?

@Pioner4444

2 ай бұрын

~ 60 days

@WillEmmo

2 ай бұрын

Beta around April, launch around June is my guess

@switchfoot8702

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

@Serenitieez

2 ай бұрын

@@WillEmmo This didn't age well. Haha beta came out the day after you posted this xD

Will season of discovery go through BC, etc restarting the whole thing?

First time playing Cata. Never got to play it on initial launch. Back then I only get as far as (early) Wrath expansion. Got excited that I was able to get into the Cata Beta and have been enjoying the quality of life changes. I know some of the lore though and Garrosh is not my Warchief.

I've not been excited for an expansion release like this since... Well... Fricken Cataclysm man! The content was super freaking hard back at launch and was even still hard after a ton of nerfs to enemies and dungeons. I might start a guild of my own just because that was my role back then as well. Guild Master. Unfortunately Pandaland killed my guild directly. I get the chance after more than half of my life has passed since I played it and im going to experience the exp that I felt like a god on. See ya in game!

never got to play cata, really looking forward to the Shattering!

Definitely excited for some Cata!

Never really did the pve back in the day but spent a good few months on a private server to see if it was actually any good and i freaking love it. Cant wait for Cata, its gona be a good time

Are they adding dungeon finder?

So this is where player counts fall off a cliff even harder for classic.

Cata is my all time favorite! Can’t wait to see all the changes again.

early cata is probably the only time in the game i can remember people struggling with heroic dungeons and healers going oom easily

I never played catha because i played other games when it released. Im def gonna check it out. To me it looks really cool

I join blizz during Mid Cata, before that only had played in Private servers and it was an amazing experience for me.

@AVeryBoredMouse12312

2 ай бұрын

oh yeah people give cata and MoP too much shit, they were actually the fun kind of challenging, and when you didn't outright need addons to tell what was happening WoD though...it was the expansion that turned me off, mainly because I was a shaman main and uhhh shaman was put into the ground that expansion legion wasn't much better about it, and honestly leveling that expansion was boring as shit as I didn't feel like I was getting stronger

Even in their nerfed states, I am excited for twilight heroics.

Cata was great for raiding in many areas. Almost all group buffs were covered by multiple specs so you get that middle ground between mixing classes and not having certain classes be completely mandatory. 10-man raiding was very fun and challenging for the most part, despite the forever 10 vs 25 argument. Somethings that I think they could improve on: "spread out" mechanic could be more forgiving in 25 man groups since this is a lot easier to do for 10. "Giant nukes" in 10 man could be retuned to account for the fact that you may not have a CD to cover every single nuke the way you do in 10. I enjoyed this expansion thoroughly, except Spine and Madness: those fights are just bad and also didn't feel like you're actually fighting the main villain of the expansion. I also disliked going back to Firelands for the rest of the expansion to build the legendary, but i can at least tolerate it.

As someone who was a mad casual back in original Cata I am really looking forward to the raids.

I'm looking forward to revisiting the time I started playing WoW! Cata is gonna be awesome

The problem I have is that the amount of design choices that were great additions to Cata is the same as the horrible changes that I dislike. I wish they would just make the best version of a classic game to expand on instead of just nostalgia bate each expansion.

I echo the majority in thinking Cata was a good expansion. The endgame was solid and being there in real time as it was happening I really liked it. Its biggest downfall was ALWAYS its marketing and use of the old world. Not many people saw it due to the fast lvling and it was used for NOTHING beyond dungeon queuing early on. Majority of new zones were good (with exceptions like barrens split/loch modan drain etc imo) but there was absolutely no reason to interact with it beyond basic curiosity. Killed the world and made wow into an instance game. Oh and Deathwing was wasted as a villain coming after Arthas especially.

hope its gonnna be a good time!

Can you use your insider knowledge to contact Aggrend and tell him servers need to be made into clusters like ERA for Cataclysm?

I know Dragonsoul was the first LFR raid but do you think the other raids will become LFR as well?

@joshyman221

2 ай бұрын

There is a very small chance they even add LFR m8. No one wants it

I'd be careful. On beta emblems werent transfered into gold/points. Herlooms could be purchashed with points tho. And all heirlooms your character knew got wiped out. Unsure if they did that so that we dont use them or not

will heirlooms be usable 80>85? i played cata but cant remember

@robinhedlundkarlsson5184

2 ай бұрын

Think you need to spend justice points to upgrade heirlooms from 80to 85

Looking forward to Cata. I didn't get to play it much beyond heroics originally because of work. The heroic Cata 5 man's are probably my favorite of any expansion. I know it becomes more like retail, but I don't care. Classic has been fun, but it becomes a more complete and fun to play game as the xpacs roll out. Cata and Panda are gonna be fun.

How about defiler’s scourgestone? I should spend them all before cata?

So if we make it all the way to Legion Classic... will they bring back Mage Tower rewards?

@Naeinsengimnida

2 ай бұрын

If they tweak the AP grind and fix the drop of the Legendaries i think it may make Legion perfect ! Although i would suggest giving the Catalyst to get a Tier set piece, because i played SV Hunter and the Tier set was kinda making the class have a more than decent dps and i knew i wouldn't be admitted to raids (pugs)to get it. I was so discouraged... i remember quitting after 1 year when the new raid released.

@pigslam

2 ай бұрын

if they go beyond MOP, the game will officially have zero integrity

@General12th

2 ай бұрын

​@@pigslamYou can just choose to not play later Classic releases. You don't have to insult people who are looking forward to it.

@pigslam

2 ай бұрын

@@General12th im not insulting the people, i dont give a damn if they play WOD, if they enjoy it, so be it. ive heard it has great raiding. my problem lies in the fact that WOD is an incomplete expansion through and through. to rerelease it in that same state? as im sure they will? c'mon. it really displays an extreme lack of care from blizzard for the playerbase, more so than they already do. its really exploitative at that point

@Sprosbold

2 ай бұрын

​@@pigslam I'm sure they're aware of why WoD was so badly received and will be incentivized to at least fill it out a little more. Cata hasn't even reached beta, and we're already sure about our predictions for WoD? Seems like a lot of (probably justified) pent up frustration, not reality. I probably won't play WoD either unless they announce big changes/additions, but it's way too soon to say what their moves are gonna be. They want Classic to succeed, and an as-was WoD release would be a big nail in the Classic coffin. We don't need to imagine monsters hiding in a future closet, plenty real and current things to worry about (or be happy about, don't know if that's your thing(?)) in the meantime...

question is why don't i have any TBC servers too choose from? i feel very sad that i can't play my favourite expansion. but people get too play Vanilla over and over if they want too.

@narhwallord6985

18 күн бұрын

While I agree that TBC is probably the best version of the game, it's in a tough spot as far as keeping a playerbase. In Blizzard's shoes, do you just open up TBC fresh servers? Do you make SOD progress into TBC? Or do you just make the current vanilla servers progress into TBC, when they've been vanilla only for YEARS at this point. There's just no easy way to go about it, and there just won't be enough people to make it worth it (in Blizzard's eyes.)

Playing a prot pally in cata for a top guild in 10 mans was amazing. Being both a tank and off healer was needed!

First time playing cata and I’m keen

i love that there wil be relevant 5-mans in catta, it was the best part to me

Solo. Mood tanking was tons of fun in cata. Might be the thing that brings me back lol

will there be fresh servers ? any1 know ?

Their 5 man dungeons in Cata were just fun imo.

I wish they'd hurry up and do the EverQuest thing with TLP servers. Get those vanilla to wrath servers going for those of us that enjoy the original trilogy. And like those EQ TLP servers, most will stop playing at cata similar to when the planes of power expansion drops.

Can't wait for Cata!

Halfus Pugbreaker felt so challenging on 10 man back in the day

Excited

pvp is also really good, i can't wait, CATA HYPE !

speed to 1.25 to get normal talk speed

Does this video cover new things in Cata Classic, or just changes from the original Wrath to Cata?

heroic in cata is equivelant to mythic, in mop they added mythic for SoO iirc. the following xpack was normal was like easy mode, heroic was like normal, and mythic was like heroic, for the content its the mythic equivelant

@amadeusagripino6862

2 ай бұрын

SoO had the shortlived "Flex" mode, I wonder if they'll do it again for classic MoP.

Im kinda excited about cata, raiding was challenging and fun, dungeons are good and i hope they dont do mega nerfs to hc dungeons

I’m honestly hoping they re release WOD and implement all the features they wanted to originally add or make it something like SOD, I loved WOD 😅

Cata is the only xpac aside from the new one I haven’t played might actually give it a go

Cant wait for cata, i stoped playin after wotlk at vanila times, i liked Cata but got so burned out after 4 years of wow.

This is also THE most alt friendly expansion WoW has ever had. So if you like raiding, it is reasonable to do so on a number of toons and there is little upkeep.

Can’t wait for a new classic version that isn’t Cata or any other expansions forward. 😢

I didn't play tbc or wrath. Will I be able to play Cataclysm when starting at lvl 1 with no gold?

@Sprosbold

2 ай бұрын

Yup, should be very doable because levelling is smoothed out a ton compared to earlier expansions. Cata is where I started back in the day. Don't expect to get into full 346 gear or to get into raids in the first week or two, but you'll get a char up nicely prepped in not much longer than that. A lot of the (necessary?) prep like Therazane rep grind is gonna be shared with the veterans as well, who won't have much of an advantage there other than them hitting 85 a little bit earlier. Cata was a blast for me, if you're on the fence - try it!

@AVeryBoredMouse12312

2 ай бұрын

yes, and leveling will be much faster, too, since it's a lot more streamlined and straight forward on where you need to go

People really seem to forget that Cataclysm was WotLK but BETTER. Better PvE, better PvP.. the only thing I think that destroyed Cata was the world revamp. Blizz really revamped the world entirely too early…

Happen to drop into a full 6k+ grp today for my daylie fos and we whiped 3x...cant wait to do random cata heroics with thoose ppl 😂

A question towards your video production..may I ask if your editing breathing out? Or have you learned to speak at this pace and intonation over time? Thanks

The raiding changes make sense. I quit wrath because I didn’t want to do the 10 man and also the 25 man. It was a joke for someone who was only interested in PvP.

why do i have a feeling world first will be just bunch of Arcane Mages stacked up with few classes to fillup magic debuffs?

The issue with Cata is it was out for 21 months. That is it. If they make Cata a 15 month expansion with a few changes it will be very well recieved

Do we really need the titan rune dungeons? We got ZG ZA as catchup and the hour of twilight catchup dungeons before dragon soul patch. The raids will be completely useless if titan runes get released, unless the titan runes gives “raidfinder quality” items

@SkiD_2k

2 ай бұрын

The gearing in cata is already easy and good for alts, we don’t really need another thing that does the same shit

cata wasnt bad...just dont like the water quest in the beginning but i got to finally make a goblin warrior

no! i was looking for video about changes between cata and cata classic, not cata vs wotlk :(

I liked Cata, looking forward to the return

"With good CC..." Modern players: What's CC precious? Can you eat it?

Didnt really pve in cata in original, strictly pvp person back then, i did do the final raid just to see what its about but that was it

with how Sods going im looking forward to Cata, sod is boring.

@toraso842

2 ай бұрын

Wrath and BC was fun for first month than it died same with cata lmao we say this every time

@Gavinbelson

2 ай бұрын

ok well thats a month of fun then lol. Sod will be fun for a week with new phase if that.@@toraso842

I am not prepared. :(

14:50 a lot of Raiding in cata.....hmmmm but i can only do 10man OR 25man and not both so i can only raid half as much.

@Blubking1

2 ай бұрын

You will spend more time than in Wrath, don't worry about that.

@cstu6864

2 ай бұрын

3 multi-boss raids plus baradin hold on launch my friend

@Sprosbold

2 ай бұрын

With the week's raid caps filled out quicker it becomes realistic to have more than one character being a full time raider too. Perfect to try the top-tier experience that is cata raid healing for example

When Cata came out, I couldn't stand it. The destruction of the world really rubbed me the wrong way, I lost all of my favorite questing areas, and nothing was familiar anymore... However, looking at it today, I have been without those questing zones for so long, (I didn't jump into wrath classic due to having played private servers in the past, I already had my fill) I'm already used to the world being wrecked after all these years. I love the lore of cata, but I was never able to explore it in depth because I was far too young at the time, and this time around I will be able enjoy it properly. I'm excited to jump into it with far older far more mature eyes.

Due the to the fact that I am blind and addons to help my out are just developed in the last 3 years, I never played original cata. But i heared so much "worst expansion of the world" and "best expansion ever" that i am super hyped to know how it will really be for me. Hope there won't to much bosses that have blind unfriendly mechanics like vesax or sindragosa. Aaaaaaaand you didn't get punished for being more successful in 10 person raids than in 25. The easy loot from 25 killed the loot progression and motivation to fight throughout 10 person stuff, while we ever in wotlk was more successful there. Now we can just have our 10 person group, skip all the guild drama around 25 persons and get all the fancy stuff like everyone else.