I used to make fun of 45 GAP as being a meme cartridge, but after hearing the reasoning behind the development of it I’m actually kinda bummed it didn’t take off. Great explanation Chris.

I found 45GAP Gold Dot 200gr for 40% the cost of 45ACP Gold Dot in any weight. Ordered 5000rds and a used G37 Gen4. LOVE IT!

I am a forty-five guy; i like the .45 GAP, the .45 Super +P+ and the 45 Colt +P+. 👍🥰👍

This would be perfect in Glock gen 5. This would be even better in the Glock19X variety. Full-sized grip, shortened barrel. JSOC and would love it.

I own the G37 and G38. Love the pistols and the 45 GAP is a kick ass round!

@nanaswervo9867

3 жыл бұрын

Does the 37 mag fit your 38?

@davidv.3135

3 жыл бұрын

@@nanaswervo9867 yes

Thanks Chris, I have a 37 model gen 1 from the late 2003 time frame, it doesn't miss a beat and the finish has been outstanding. I carry the 37 GAP around hog hunting as a backup because it's much lighter than the 1911 and with all the constant movement in the woods hot humid environment, looking for hogs the finish is unbelievably durable.

The biggest fail of the 45GAP is the fact they made the round smaller but yet you have less capacity than the 45ACP G21. Granted its a smaller grip. If they were to match the capacity of the G21/30 then the gun would be more successful.

@Landoftheignorant

5 жыл бұрын

Hard Target Just said this on another comment. Great minds I guess...

@TheDoc500

4 жыл бұрын

You must have missed the part where he said that it is the exact same size grip as the 9mm version...so duh it wouldn’t hold the same amount idiot

@TheSouthpawSharpshooter

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDoc500 …. But Glock doesn’t optimize their magazines and grip size to fit said 13 round mags (G21). It could fit if they changed design of magazine and cut some space inside grip.

@gameragodzilla

Ай бұрын

The issue is Glock wanted to reuse the 9mm frames and have a slimmer grip, which given .45 caliber is much wider than 9mm (.355 caliber) meant in order to have the same frame, the rounds are stacked much less efficiently for capacity. Somewhere closer to 1.5 stack rather than full double stack. I do wonder how an efficiently stacked double stack .45GAP would be, though most people who like .45 would be willing to deal with a slightly longer grip anyways in exchange for more common ammo. The benefit of .45GAP was simply too small to warrant anyone switching.

love my G37

@jeremywatson9129

5 жыл бұрын

Best handgun ever made ;)

@jffrhds

4 жыл бұрын

same here.

@damonstanley7646

4 жыл бұрын

Bought a G38 a few months ago and I love it! Same feel as my G19 and fits all my leather holsters. A friend who is a trooper still carries his G39 and swears by it. Oh, and I was able to find a source for lawman fmj and Speer gold Dot at VERY good pricing 👍

@jffrhds

4 жыл бұрын

cool. I went with the G37. I have a G19 and G23. I want to go with a full size for a change. So far, I really like it. I just bought a bunch of mags for it. Now, I am working on getting ammo. I'm going to stick with 185 and 200 grain rounds. Ammo to go, ammo depot and target sports have really good deals on 45gap ammo.

@damonstanley7646

4 жыл бұрын

@@jffrhds almost bought a G37 also, but missed out by one day lol. I have a few G19's and also a 19X. Only other full-size I have is a G21. I run 200 grain for my GAP

I know the ammo debate has been "settled" and 9mm won, but in Chicago, an officer was recently convicted of murder because he emptied 16 rounds from his S&W 9mm into a guy high on PCP who came at him with a knife. The idea that it's better to have more rounds of 9mm is true in a combat situation, but in a situation where people totally ignorant of proper firearms training are deciding your fate, it might be better to sacrifice capacity to have bigger bullets.

@themorningstar4512

4 ай бұрын

The only reasons 9mm won were simple...cost and more rounds out of micro compacts. Other than that, 40 and 45 are superior in every other way, especially since extended mags and comps are becoming standard gear in the professional side of things as well as the not so professional side.

The .40 has 10,000 psi more chamber pressure. More muzzle flip to control. When east coast police forces trialed the GAP cartridge they got higher first time success in qualifications. It also had a smaller grip and that helped women on the police force in the grip. It is a shame this did not have wider acceptance.

I kinda want that fuckhuge Glock light. On the .45 GAP... Sadly, like the .357 Sig and 10mm, it's a good concept lost in time, due to lack of adoption.

I think the main problem with the 45 GAP was timing. It hit the market in 2003 and then the Assault Weapons Ban ended and thus you could now get standard capacity magazines for 9mm and .40 S&W (which the police already had access to). Interesting concept but bad timing.

That Was Gunnys personal carry round RIP

@frankthespank

4 жыл бұрын

Sergio S - He was sponsored by Glock and their spokesman, pretty sure that had something to do with it. Also him living in California, 10 rounds of .45 was a selling point for many Californians. I’m from California and have a friend that still lives there and he has a Glock 37, it’s awful, LOL

It's rare and appreciated to find someone who respects the intentions behind this cartridge. The common, dismissive notion that it was simply an answer to a problem nobody had rings hollow to me as a Glock owner with smaller hands. The 20/21 grip is not ideal for me, and the .45 GAP gives me a bigger-caliber option that isn't a 1911. Some people forget or ignore that this cartridge began development in the context of the notorious AWB. If that had stayed around, thereby prohibiting civilians from enjoying the larger capacities afforded by the 9's and 40's, a modernized .45 cartridge in the same frame might have had a bit more appeal than it does in our timeline.

45 ACP has deep roots. tons of brass and a rep. i agree 45 gap is a good idea its just not gonna dethrone the 45 ACP.

The only 45 you need

GAP is a much better (modern) round then the acp. My home defense gun is the 38.

@exdemokrat

11 ай бұрын

Mine too

Wow again SAS you nail it and blow my mind. This was always sold to me as "for women or people who can't handle recoil". That's just a benefit of it. I don't have an issue with recoil, so I didn't see any benefit for me. This makes more sense now. Thanks man!

The pendulum was moving toward 45 caliber because of the 10 round magazine limit. If you can only 10 rounds, 45 is better than 40.

@talisikid1618

2 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. But 45gap is better than 45acp. No reason for 45acp in modern era except bubba based nostalgia. 45gap is a thoroughly modern cartridge. Virtually all size hands can adapt to it, unlike 45acp.

U threw me for a loop. Thought u were doing the new G45. Good stuff that Gap. Thanks

@SmallArmsSolutions

5 жыл бұрын

Mike Fay patience! I got the G45 on order.

I have a G37 in my collection, and it shoots very well... the recoil impulse To me, is preferable to a G22. The one thing I did notice is the magazine Springs are extremely strong! Its actually difficult to load To full cap by hand. The +2 baseplates Improve things a bit.

Solid review

Some folks are talking about capacity being low...umm model 36 only carries 6 rounds...my 39 does too. Plus I carry a model 37 mag..

They need to make it a LARGE frame to up the capacity and it would be a real contender.

@tristanhodgden4286

Жыл бұрын

Would still be the same as a 45 ACP because it's the same diameter. Like 40 and 10mm

There is something I'm going to ask Glock about. I have a 39, and I took a 23 magazine and loaded 6 rounds of .45 G.A.P in it. I cycled them several times and no problem. I have NOT shot it like that yet, and won't til I hear back from Glock. The 22 holds 15 rounds of .40, and I'm going to order a 4th gen model 37 this week. I want to see how many rounds the 22 mag holds, it might stop people from fussing about capacity..

I was at my local armory many years ago and saw one of these for $200 on consignment. At first I got excited because I thought it was 45 acp, and was gonna slap my money on the table. When I saw it was GAP, I still considered buying it but they had boat loads of ammo for it, and the price of ammo for it scared me away. But since that day, I've collected glocks and now I wish I would've bought it. Such an oddball gun.

Might pick up one of these slide assemblies for pennies and get a few hundred rounds to have stored away just cause. I love the fact my G17 (flawless polymer 80 build) can shoot so many different calibers with just a slide swap! And an auto sear can just slide in. And it can be made into a pseudo sub gun in a breeze. And they love +p ammo. Idk why I was ever a Glock hater😆

@IIMoses740II

5 жыл бұрын

That's the idea I was looking into, only with a Glock 38 slide for a Glock 19 frame, but finding them...well I'm assuming, at this point, that my only luck will be to hope someone throws one up on Gunbroker, or the sort, and I just happen to see it.

Looking at your table I can tell where all the .45 GAP ammo in the country has gone. Lol 🤗😉

I still see online deals for 45 GAP pistols for like 280 bucks for a barely used glock. It was tempting but I don't really like glocks enough to warrant yet another caliber I have to maintain I do wish for more updates to the 45 to make it modernized and better at longer ranges but the 45 as it is has such a huge momentum behind it it will not be going anywhere for the foreseeable future

One shot of this will take care of a target!!! Hahahah. Classic

One of the most underrated handguns of all time, the G38. However I disagree about ease of finding ammo readily available at local stores and being the same price. I can at least find 45 acp on sale or for pretty cheap somewhere like Walmart or rural king. The 45GAP , not so much. This cartridge is victim of old school 45 acp enthusiasts not wanting to accept another 45 cartridge that wasn’t made legendary by John Moses Browning. I would absolutely love a G38, but unfortunately I’d more than likely have to buy ammo online and it would be my one and only odd ball caliber. Not the end of the world but just an inconvenience I don’t deem necessary. My G30S does just fine and it’s 10+1 with the option of 13+1 instead of the 45 gap glocks that go 8+1 and 10+1. Who knows, one day I may stumble across a deal on a G38 and buy it, but it would have to be one hell of a deal

When the g38 came out, it quickly became my dream for a carry gun. But then the hk45c appeared...

45acp vs 45gap is like 30-06 vs 308

@nima4416

5 жыл бұрын

maybe 30-06 to 300 win mag

@veganlifestyleloveanimals1744

4 жыл бұрын

My GAP runs circles around my father's acp.

Glock .45 GAP is nice but still prefer .45 ACP.. That said, Glock 38 is worth it and the .45 GAP is a nice cartridge.

Did you pick up one of the LMT New Zealand uppers from brownells?

I don't think I'd say "tradition" was the problem here. It was probably some combination of "inertia" and a lack of market demand. Inertia: this wasn't going to be adaptable or useful for all the guys who are "invested" in 45ACP. Think of all the IPSC/USPSA/IDPA 1911 guys who have tons of brass and their favorite powder recipes for reloading. There's so many 45ACP guns already out there and if folks are already shooting those guns comfortably they aren't looking for a smaller grip. For the ones who ditched the 45ACP for a 9mm or 40S&W because they had smaller hands they would now be invested their new caliber and would be reluctant to go back to try something else. Market Demand: for police departments to buy this they'd likely be ditching their 40S&W pistols for something with less magazine capacity and not much more power. The general feeling that mag capacity & low recoil mattered more than bullet diameter was starting to be felt in the mid 2000s. It just took the FBI telling everyone about it a few years later to actually take hold. Adopting a new gun & caliber is a significant investment individuals are not likely to make. The best market for this caliber was guys who like Glocks & also appreciate innovation. While there's a lot of those guys there probably aren't enough to carry this through. Quite frankly, if the US Military was adamant about a 45 caliber round and also having a pistol smaller statured soldier could hold then they would be the perfect customer for the 45GAP.

@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193

4 жыл бұрын

Eric S your final paragraph is on point. If the US just had to have .45, I’m thinking a lot of internet experts would suddenly “discover” the utility of the .45 GAP after it was selected

Do you think other manufacturers making smaller framed 45s more recently hurt the concept of this design? When they made this design you pretty much had to buy a full size model or a 1911, correct? Now there’s the P320, M&P, XD and XDM etc.

@thebusterdog6358

5 жыл бұрын

I recently bought a Springfield XDS Mod 2 in .45 ACP. And no I don't think it hurts the original 1911 concept. If anything it enhances the 1911 design. But I'll put it this way, the XDS is my first and last polymer gun. I think Polymer did more harm to guns than any concept ever devised. The XDS @ 21.5 ounces is addiquit but not confortable for .45 ACP, and not optimal in my opinion. And when shooting it you get the feeling it eventually will fail under the pressure. My Sig Sauer all steel 1911 is more than standing up to the pressure and recoil of .45 cal. I believe 30-32 ounces is the bare minimum weight of a gun shooting a bullet of .45 caliber and up. The XDS is relegated to being my Jeep gun.

@nuclearjanitors

5 жыл бұрын

@@thebusterdog6358 XDs are terrible guns

If the Glock 38 is built on a 19 frame I’m wondering if would it be possible to do a polymer80 build in .45 GAP?

@theultimateninja

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@therealburnzbeatzburnzbeat8008

2 жыл бұрын

I did it 38!gap

Got this in my rari

The G37 has only 10 rounds capacity and its a G17 size. The same size in 40 S&W the G22 has a 15 shot capacity and the same power as 45 Gap . The G19 size in 45 Gap only has 8 shots vs 13 rounds G23. The 45 Gap came out long after 40 S&W it was a very bad idea.

Glock made a niche cartridge to solve the same issue SA did with the design of the XD45.

If Glock had named it .450 ACP everyone would have wanted it.

@Landoftheignorant

5 жыл бұрын

Dong Blak problem is, it’s not a Colt pistol. So ACP wouldn’t have worked.

@michaelhatfield3430

5 жыл бұрын

.450 GAP ,If they could have matched at least the magazine capacity of the Glock 21 it may have sold better. 8+1 in the model 38 and 10+1 in the model 37 just didn't impress people enough to buy it. The Glock 21 in .45ACP gives you 13+1 and a Glock 22 in .40S&W gives you 15+1. I own a Glock 37 in .45GAP that I bought used but mint for dirt cheap. It had sat on a dealers shelf for 2 years without a buyer so the dealer gave it to me at cost. It is a good gun and is very accurate as .45 Glocks whether .45GAP or .45ACP tend to be.

@Landoftheignorant

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Hatfield I’m going to end up buying one of each size eventually. I want a full collection of Glock numbers. The 24 and 17L seem to be a bit of a pain to find, and they’re far more expensive than the rest.

@atilliar

5 жыл бұрын

The 18 might give you some trouble too lol.

@Landoftheignorant

5 жыл бұрын

Jonathon Hurley I would give a nut to have a legal one. There’s no reason the registry shouldn’t be open, at the very least temporarily.

@ 5:59, this slide design must have been before they beveled the bottom portion of the slide, or, the slide was thinner in the early days.

Why not just use the modern propellants with the older case? Will the GAP load cycle and work in a 1911?

So as glocks usually are does the 45gap mags for the bigger ones fit the smaller ones like does the 37 mags fit the 38 and 39

I love my G37!

I have never seen this caliber or any Glocks chambered in it in any store I have visited.

I found .45 ACP much more pleasant to shoot than .45 GAP. I was at a LE demonstration shoot put on by a Glock distributor and got to try all the Glock pistols made. I found the .45 GAP pistols somewhat uncomfortable, even compared to the .45 ACP and 10 mm full sized guns. I loved the model 21 and 20 Glocks, but not the models 37 and 38. I was interested in the cartridge before I shot it, but afterwards, not at all.

Hey I'm 23 years old and I'm all for innovation in the firearms industry but there's just something about a good ol fashioned 1911 in .45 ACP that I'll never get over.

@henryschmidt636

5 жыл бұрын

Amen....

Wish I never bought the Glock light

A great video with lots of background data on the .45 GAP round. It seems like a dead caliber, but if civilians including police were to be limited to 10 round magazines the G37 would be a great pick for a service pistol, with the subcompact G39 for backup and concealed carry which holds up to 8 rounds (7+1) with the Pearce Grips PG-39 plus extension. I would much prefer this 10+1 .45 to a 10+1 9mm like the G48 (or G17 with a reduced capacity 10 round magazine). Nobody in their right mind would use a G21 if limited to 10 round magazines unless they had hands like Andre the Giant. The only true competition are pistols chambered for the .40 S&W round like the G22 and G27 which have much the same stopping power as the .45 GAP (both markedly better than 9mm), but as this high pressure round puts more stress on guns I prefer the .45 GAP. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_GAP www.hendonpub.com/resources/article_archive/results/details?id=3580 www.personaldefenseworld.com/2014/10/45-acp-and-45-gap-glocks/

G39 For winter carry, g37 as the bedside gun.

Should have done .50 GAP.

I just ordered one is it a good gun or should I cancel

X grip with the 10rd. Mag...

I have yet to see a box of .45 GAP. In a store...

@michaelhatfield3430

5 жыл бұрын

I have seen it in a few stores in Illinois and even bought some FMJ American Eagle at Wal-Mart for a good price. I bought a Glock model 37 .45 GAP used but mint for dirt cheap. It had sat on a dealers shelf for 2+years and He was making room so He sold it at cost so I jumped on it.

@Esko_Vasya

5 жыл бұрын

Buy online. It'll be cheaper there 99.9999% of the time anyways

@James_T_Kirk_1701

5 жыл бұрын

Thystaff Thywill 357 sig is at my Walmart every week..

I’m surprised you didn’t talk about the Para 1911 and Springfield XD chambered in 45 GAP.

If you want one that REALLY did not catch on from Glock, look no further then .50GI. I am actually surprised it did not catch on. Americans kind of have a thing for .50 cal, ha.

@Jesses001

5 жыл бұрын

Oh? That is odd. I have only seen Glocks in that chambering.

Thought you were gonna talk about the new and poorly named Glock 45.

Springfield made an xd in .45 gap.

@johnrecknor925

3 жыл бұрын

I have had a XD 45 GAP for years and really like it.

@66cujo

Жыл бұрын

Sig also chambered a .45 GAP.

I have looked at the specs on this and most carry ammo is not loaded to .45 ACP standard. Which is what holds it back in most peoples opinions.

I had a G38 some years ago, it was a good gun but I did end up getting rid of it. To me, Glock made three mistakes with the .45 GAP: 1. The name - it's terrible. They should have called it ".450" something. The .45 GAP doesn't sound intimidating, it sounds more like a fashion statement. 2. Ballistics - more power sells and to make it equal to the ACP really meant there was nothing driving people to really want it. If they upped the pressure of it (think mini .45 Super/460 Rowland) and made it beat out even the .45 ACP +P by 50-100 fps...people would have stood up and taken notice. Recoil would be higher, but lower recoil options could have been offered for LEO and personal usage for those wanting less. 3. The fat slide - I know they made the slide thick to mitigate recoil but it also alienated all the holsters that previously worked with 9mm and .40 sized Glocks. A thin slide version (which did exist as a prototype) would have helped sales as well, and with the current Gen4/Gen5 dual recoil spring system, a thin slide version could have easily existed. That's just my .02.

@talisikid1618

2 жыл бұрын

No. It is a shorter, more efficient case. That alone obsoletes the 45acp. No reason to maintain acp. None.

@66cujo

Жыл бұрын

The 5th gens have wider slides than previous generations. So the width part is a mute point.

Now that LE is going back to 9MM, do you think the ammo manufacturers will discontinue making the .45GAP ?

@FBIAGENT725

3 жыл бұрын

I don't see why they would, no departments use 10mm yet it's still in production(and doing pretty well I should add). 45 GAP may not be as popular but theres still a market for it, and it's pretty cheap as well

@GTFBITK

Жыл бұрын

@@FBIAGENT725 no one is making new models of gap pistols vs making models for the 10mm

@66cujo

Жыл бұрын

@@GTFBITK glock doesn't show a 10mm in 5th gen either.

I didn't fall for .45GAP but I did get suckered by .357 SIG and 5.7x28, sold them both. If 9mm won't do the job then you need a rifle not a .45

@chiaroscuro3552

5 жыл бұрын

IMO they have a place but it's probably a narrow one. I like the pistol calibre ARs and quality ones are quite reliable. But they are almost the same size and weight as rifle calibre AR pistiols. So you have 9mm/.45 instead of 5.56/6.8/300 BO beacuase you chose it. I can see the apeal, lower recoil than rifle, more capacity than pistol, 4 points of contact for control, more rail for lights and stuff. If it makes sense to the user its a correct choice, but I would ask why not a 300 blackout AR pistol with brace.

Makes sense for the Glock 26 or other sub compacts

Can you shoot 45 acp bullets in a Glock 38 gap

@SmallArmsSolutions

2 жыл бұрын

No

How many rounds

an extended mag would be nice, 20 rds

@ogstackadollor85

3 жыл бұрын

Is there one out there

My dept carried the G37 for a few years. Most everyone disliked it. We quickly switched to a G19.

@chriskerwin3904

5 жыл бұрын

It seems like a pistol and cartridge that is really only sensible for fairly experienced shooters; you still have .45 recoil now in a smaller frame. Ironically, many cops these days don't actually shoot that often.

That light is almost bigger than the gun

@James_T_Kirk_1701

5 жыл бұрын

Maur Ice I have moved on from my old Glock branded light but I’ll tell you I have never found a pistol light that I liked the switch on better. It works beautifully. It also last a very long time on one battery. It’s only 80 lumens with an incandescent bulb but it worked flawlessly for years.

Will the G37 slide and mags fit onto a G17 frame?

@MyCatCarriesAGlock

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is the same frame. You'll need a new trigger group though. Or at the very least a new ejector.

@popsesko1479

4 жыл бұрын

Ejector and extractor change to move down to 40 or 9

@ 3:45 I think he meant to say 860 and 840 fps.-- with my 45 auto hand loads, 5.6 grains of HP-38 under a 230gr FMJ gives me about 875 fps with a 5"bbl, and Cor Bon 230gr +P clocks about 890 on my chronograph thru 4.5" bbl. I did get 1050 fps with Gold Dot 200gr +P thru 4.5" bbl., this is a wicked load if you seek max expansion. Gold Dot is good stuff.

The capacity was the main issue i think...why get 8 rounds in a g38 when you can have 13 in a g23 (40s&w) and g32 (357sig) with about the same if not more ft lbs of energy per shot...considering states with 10 round limits, if they could have made the g38 hold 10 rounds it may have appealed much more

As much as I love my Model 29 there is certainly nothing wrong with the .45 GAP.

Hey I don't mean to be critical, but you need to do something to fix the audio in your videos man. You are getting a lot of reverb and digital audio noise that's garbling your voice a bit. Other than that, I love your videos man. You really swayed my opinion of the AR 15 format and how that the US Army Ordnance Corps is responsible for causing the firearms bad reputation through their collective incompetence. Which ultimately cost the lives of many young men in the jungles of South East Asia. BTW, Glock kinda of screw the pooch by not putting the G45 in 45ACP. Yeah i get it, 45 was the next in the patent numbing scheme. However, I feel it was kind of a missed opportunity for Glock.

I'll two boxes of . 45 ACP cartridges for the same price as one box of .45 GAP. And what it basically boils down to is cost of range ammo for practice. Plus it's for a Glock which I don't own and don't plan on buying. They tried replacing. 45 cal with .40 cal, then they tried with 9mm, then .45 GAP, now the new flavor of the month is 10mm. I'll keep my .45 cal. Plus good luck finding .45 GAP in an emergency when the SHTF.

Now nys troopers are carrying 45 acp again

Does anyone know when other caliber gen 5 glocks will come out

@ryanwiseman9141

5 жыл бұрын

mike lamb Good question man. I'm a .40 guy. I keep hearin because they're 2 pin instead of 3 pin now, they might scrap the .40. I doubt it, but there's no info out there

@nelsonr1467

5 жыл бұрын

@@ryanwiseman9141 there is no way they'll scrap .40

@houstonmoore7428

4 жыл бұрын

Lol that's never going to happen

@66cujo

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanwiseman9141 I have several 5th gen .40s and they're awesome.

The thing with these Glocks in 45 gap You don’t gain capacity for a full size pistol the g21sf beats the g37 which only holds 10+1 the Glock 21sf is not too thick and holds 13+1

@joejohnson4183

3 жыл бұрын

One of the reasons for making and adopting the G37 was for officers with small hands and for female officers . The G21 and even the G21SF is just too big . And during that time period law enforcement was recruiting more women . Now look at most law enforcement agencies and they are going to the 9mm because of less recoil . Times are changing .

If people are so hell bent on 45acp, there are so many more options for better, more durable, more reliable guns than the 1911. If 45 was my only option, G21, or the FNX45. Both are amazing guns.

@katmarriot4269

5 жыл бұрын

I got a 1911 but always wanted an HK chambered in .45.

@tauneutrino1able

5 жыл бұрын

The big 2 draws for 1911's are that they are slim and there for easy to carry and most importantly it's damn near impossible to get a better trigger.

@Landoftheignorant

5 жыл бұрын

Kat Marriot I’ve owned the FNX before, and they are amazing guns. The grips are smaller than Gen3 glocks. 15+1, can’t complain at all. When I first got into guns, I wanted a P2000; they look amazing.

@Landoftheignorant

5 жыл бұрын

Tau Neutrino That slimness is overridden by the weight and size, manual safety, single action only, and again low capacity. I like them, they’re beautiful guns, especially in the upper echelon prices. I just can’t see a point in spending $3500 on a gun I’m going to be pissed gets scratched, worn, or scuffed. Every Glock I buy, I throw across the range dirt/rocks. Never felt bad about it. Haha.

👍👏👏👏👏👏

Overpressure? I hear a lot of naysayers claim that the .45GAP, .357sig, .40S&W and 10mm are inferior to 9mm and 45acp because they are high-pressure cartridges... I hear all these stories of.40 cal, in particular, causing guns to wear out quickly or explode. Is there any worth to this tale or is it just the internet echo chamber trying to convince us all we need to go out and buy a new gun in the Taticool loading of the hour?

@glenlivett78

5 жыл бұрын

I only ask this because I heard " the .45GAP is a high pressure round" as if that is a self-explanatory reason to not consider it.

@glenlivett78

5 жыл бұрын

on a side note, I think the fact it seems it was made by Glock to be a maximum 10rd capacity and the federal law that banned high cap mags sunset right as the GAP was trying to break into the market

@hardtarget2359

5 жыл бұрын

Most of the "Its a higher pressure round" is BULLSHIT! At least with the 40 compared to the 9mm. They are both 35,000psi cartridges. Now with 357Sig 10mm and the 45Gap they have a higher pressure than they're counterparts. The 45GAP is still a lower pressure than 9 40 and 357 and 10mm.

@Landoftheignorant

5 жыл бұрын

Glenlivet78 If they would’ve shoved 13 in like the G21, I’d be more prone to consider it. I’ll end up buying one of each eventually. I want one of each number. Sadly, the 18 will forever elude my goal.

@glenlivett78

5 жыл бұрын

I am just curious about the "overpressure" aspect and wonder if that had anything to do with the lack of popularity. It seems to be the go-to excuse for those that want to berate the .40cal. As far as that is concerned my old department used to isse 40s and I have fired 10s of thousands of rounds and hitherto I have not had or seen a gun blow up and James Yeager still doesn't know who I am.

It failed because no one other than police adopted it. If a military group picked it up popularity would follow.

The oddball capacity is what killed this round. Why go to a 10 rounds with this when the 21 has 13?

@MyCatCarriesAGlock

5 жыл бұрын

Only reason the 21 has 13 is because the magazine is longer and wider. If you compare the 21 to other "full size" .45acps on the market, you'll notice a lot only hold 10 rounds as well-because the guns themselves are smaller sized and therefore so are the mags. So to relate that back to the 37, it's a G17-sized mag that holds .45 caliber cartridges. 10 is the best that physics will allow without the mag getting longer or wider. Hope that helps.

@TheScaleTech

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah but again, why carry 10 of this in the same size frame as a 17? I just see it as a problem looking for a solution

Does this mean they are going to reintroduce the 38 S&W with modern powder and call it the 38 Special Gap? Haha!! What a joke.

I was very interested in the Glock 37 in.45 GAP but then realized i would be losing capacity to get a smaller grip which didn't matter to me. I think that is more of the reason that the gap didn't become successful than tradition. I would much rather have a Glock 20 than a Glock 37. The Glock 20 frame is larger(which matters little to me) and is more powerful, and has more capacity. The Glock 37 succeeded in offering .45acp performance in a smaller size, but that's all it did. The Glock 37 offered effeminate men and women the ability to grip and fire a .45 round, which is funny because small/weak men and women should not even be cops/military. So the .45 Glock is basically a thing that enables political correctness.....so fuck that thing.

@66cujo

Жыл бұрын

That grip was designed for people that wanted a. 45 with the grip size of a 9mm.

I am a forty-five guy; i like the .45 GAP, the .45 Super +P+ and the 45 Colt +P+. 👍🥰👍