The 3 Rules of Hate Speech: Free Speech Rules (Episode 2)

Here are three rules you should know about "Hate Speech" and the First Amendment:
1. The First Amendment protects all ideas, loving, hateful, or in between.
In the United States, “hate speech” is just a political label, like “un-American speech” or “rude speech.” Some people use the phrase broadly, some more narrowly - but there’s no legal definition, because there is no “hate speech” exception to the First Amendment..
As the Supreme Court held in 1974, “Under the First Amendment there is no such thing as a false idea. However pernicious an opinion may seem, we depend for its correction not on the conscience of judges and juries but on the competition of other ideas."
Or, in 2017:
“...the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express ‘the thought that we hate.'"
That’s from Matal v. Tam, in which the government denied a trademark to an Asian-American band, because the band’s name was seen by some as a racial slur. The government wasn’t even trying to ban the name; it was just denying trademark registration to people who used the name.
But even that, the Court concluded, was unconstitutional viewpoint discrimination, and violated the First Amendment.
2. Some speech is not protected by the First Amendment, regardless of whether it’s bigoted or hateful
Threats of violence are constitutionally unprotected. That includes all threats--racist threats, threats to police officers, business owners, the President, anyone.
Likewise, intentionally inciting immediate violence is sometimes punishable. Classic example: Giving a speech to a mob outside a building, urging them to burn it down.
Personal insults said to someone’s face might also be punishable, as so-called “fighting words.” That’s true regardless of whether the insults stem from personal hostility or group hatred related to race, religion, and the like.
Indeed, in 1992, the Supreme Court struck down an ordinance that specially targeted bigoted fighting words.
3. Hate crime laws are constitutional, so long as when they punish violence or vandalism, not speech
The classic example is Wisconsin v. Mitchell, the 1993 case in which the Supreme Court unanimously upheld hate crimes laws. Todd Mitchell, a young black man, urged some friends to beat up a white boy because the boy was white.
Wisconsin law made the beating into a more serious crime because the boy was targeted based on his race. The Court said this is fine, because “a physical assault is not by any stretch of the imagination expressive conduct protected by the First Amendment.”
And while the law increased the punishment because of the defendant’s intent, the law often punishes people more because of why they did what they did.
Killing someone for money will get you a harsher punishment than killing them out of momentary anger. Likewise, firing an employee because of his race will get you a civil lawsuit; firing an employee for most other reasons won’t.
None of this covers the mere expression of hateful ideas, or the use of words that some see as hateful. Those are generally protected by the First Amendment.
But why? The Justices generally agree that racist ideas, for instances, are wrong and dangerous. Why would the Justices say hate speech is constitutionally protected?
Because they don’t trust government officials to decide which ideas are wrong and dangerous.
They worry that if government officials had the power to ban evil ideas, that power would quickly stretch to punishing a wide range of debate and dissent. And they see the First Amendment as requiring that distrust.
In the words of Justice Black, echoed by the Supreme Court in 1972, “The freedoms ...guaranteed by the First Amendment must be accorded to the ideas we hate or sooner or later they will be denied to the ideas we cherish.”
Written by Eugene Volokh, a First Amendment law professor at UCLA.
Produced and edited by Austin Bragg, who is not.
This is the second episode of Free Speech Rules, a video series on free speech and the law. Volokh is the co-founder of the Volokh Conspiracy, which is hosted at Reason.com.
This is not legal advice.
If this were legal advice, it would be followed by a bill.
Please use responsibly.
Music: "Lobby Time" by Kevin MacLeod, Incompetech.com
Music: "You Make Me Alive" by The Slants
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  • @joevartanian4246
    @joevartanian42465 жыл бұрын

    Explaining the actual law huh? Countdown to KZread demonetization. . .

  • @cheerdiver

    @cheerdiver

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not quite, it was an arts degree holder expressing his perverse opinion. In their 'world' everything is subjective. IE they want you subject to their opinion. It's the BAR's objective to make perception nine tenths the 'law'. Which means they can persecute you for legal actions, even though someone else's perception lead them to a different conclusion. It's about finding excuses to screw people out of monies, as arts degree holders tend to be counter productive to society.

  • @Yatukih_001

    @Yatukih_001

    3 жыл бұрын

    If the US government forces social media companies which do not honor the 1st Amendment to leave Sacramento, I will support that.

  • @ArmyOne519

    @ArmyOne519

    18 күн бұрын

    @@Yatukih_001 Roger that. The First Amendment shall not be infringed, even by Liberals.

  • @chetopuffs
    @chetopuffs5 жыл бұрын

    Hate isn’t a crime! If you can’t tell me what I can love; you can’t tell me what I can hate.

  • @redredred8408

    @redredred8408

    Жыл бұрын

    fizzickle or a.. 🔁kimmickoll!!😬

  • @DonNuBreed
    @DonNuBreed5 жыл бұрын

    I am amazed at the number of people around me who don't understand this concept.

  • @recoveringnewyorker2243

    @recoveringnewyorker2243

    5 жыл бұрын

    Really? With today’s US educational system? Really?

  • @thunderthighs8269
    @thunderthighs82695 жыл бұрын

    “If this were legal advice, it would be followed by a bill.” Truer words were never spoken

  • @koala10ish

    @koala10ish

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Let say someone constantly disseminates a speech by saying we will wipe you out and then take your land to a community who legally own the land; and then one day he/she says on the face of one of the community members, and this member gets outraged and beats the person disseminating the speech; so, does the community member have the legal right to react that way spontaneously? Thank you for your clarification.

  • @davidcisco4036
    @davidcisco40365 жыл бұрын

    Remember ? "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Strong character, common sense and thick skin are scarce these days.

  • @johngalt6752

    @johngalt6752

    4 жыл бұрын

    These kids have no idea of what "character" is. The don't understand morals, values nor ethics. They can't earn their own way through life and have to blame everyone else for their failures. AND they have more access to all the knowledge in the world than we ever had... Total losers.

  • @hopelovegood8131

    @hopelovegood8131

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johngalt6752 who are 'these kids', we're not all indoctrinated.

  • @Alisha120058

    @Alisha120058

    2 жыл бұрын

    I remember and I still agree with that! People should be allowed to say/think whatever they want it's their right to say it.. Now days you can't say whatever you want well you can but get these whiny people saying, "You can say what you want but your not free of the consequences." I don't think the punishments fit the crime though.. Someone shouldn't lose their job/only source of income and be blacklisted for life over something you may have said that offends people. Losing friends over an belief? Sure that's an fair consequence to your actions people after all pick n choose their friends based on their values. But to lose your job/be evicted from your home/being forced into being homeless over something you said that people don't like is plain stupid. I have met others who want to imprison people who say things they don't like. Also to hold it against them for years and years is horrifying. They do realize people are capable of change? Also treating them so badly can reinforce whatever negative thing they believe that don't like. Today's generation scares me..

  • @billbillerton6122

    @billbillerton6122

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Alisha120058 Because they're all mindless drones that'll ruin someone's life at the drop of a hat.

  • @gwho

    @gwho

    2 жыл бұрын

    The exact opposite of SJW/BLM/Marxists

  • @United_States_Of_America_1776
    @United_States_Of_America_17764 жыл бұрын

    I am the United States of America, and I approve this message.

  • @sparkedits500

    @sparkedits500

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nobody likes You, We Only Like California.

  • @brandonpeterson8834

    @brandonpeterson8834

    2 жыл бұрын

    Threats of violence and incitement to violence should also be protected speech. Our founding fathers would agree with me as many of the things they advocated for would land them in jail if they incitement or threats were punishable forms of speech.

  • @koala10ish

    @koala10ish

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Let say someone constantly disseminates a speech by saying we will wipe you out and then take your land to a community who legally own the land; and then one day he/she says on the face of one of the community members, and this member gets outraged and beats the person disseminating the speech; so, does the community member have the legal right to react that way spontaneously? Thank you for your clarification.

  • @raydawgms

    @raydawgms

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brandonpeterson8834 Dude you've just explained terrorism at its core. Congrats on the self admission 👍

  • @endloesung_der_braunen_frage

    @endloesung_der_braunen_frage

    Жыл бұрын

    Freedom of speach must only be given to those that believe in IT AS a Principle. If your Worldview IS apriori that is to say AS a Matter of Principle opposed to freedom of speach then IT must be banned or Else we lose freedom in its entirity. Here is my Argument Argument for the Restriction of free speach for the Sake of freespeach Argument from Logic P1: To be logical and necessairly by Extension to have logical consistency are fundamentally good and desirable Things. C1: We ought to be logical and consistent. P2: If ought to be logical, Then we ought to create societal Systems that are based on Logic and consistency. C2: Therefore all rights that such a logical societal System would Grant, must also be Logical and consistent in their application. P3: Within a liberal Democracy free speach IS a right. C3: Thusly free speach must be logical and consistent in its application. P4: Free speach can only be logical and consistent in its application If those that demand IT remain Logically consistent within the internal Logic of their Ideology while demanding it. P5: If the apriori structure of an Ideology is a contradiction to freedom of speach then one cannot be logically consistent in demanding IT. C4: Thusly one must not by reason of this contradiction be given freedom speach. C5: Free speach thusly ought to only be granted to such people whose ideologies internal Logic are themselves a positive Affirmation of free speach. C6: Free Speach must only be granted to those Who believe in IT AS Principle, NEVER Just as a means.

  • @braticuss
    @braticuss5 жыл бұрын

    1'st rule of hate speech, there's no such thing as hate speech.

  • @CabanaBoss

    @CabanaBoss

    5 жыл бұрын

    I hated Speech class, does that count?

  • @flazzorb

    @flazzorb

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CabanaBoss Verb vs Noun, but we all hated speech.

  • @italktoomuch6442

    @italktoomuch6442

    5 жыл бұрын

    I mean, there is such a thing, and it's still pretty nasty, it's just not illegal.

  • @flazzorb

    @flazzorb

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@italktoomuch6442 Then define it without using the word "hate".

  • @arlaghdoth4434

    @arlaghdoth4434

    5 жыл бұрын

    Niall Walsh So it's not hate speech it's just "Being a dick"

  • @The4cp
    @The4cp2 жыл бұрын

    There is no such thing as hate speech and no speech should be banned. It doesn't matter who is offended or how offensive it is . It's called FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

  • @zealord9399

    @zealord9399

    2 жыл бұрын

    but it doesn't mean freedom of consequence

  • @Axolotl720

    @Axolotl720

    Жыл бұрын

    I will find your home address and post it everywhere on the internet

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    Banning hate speech risks banning nearly all speech

  • @Axolotl720

    @Axolotl720

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hello-sz7hp fine by me, most people don’t deserve a voice tbh

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Axolotl720 so you agree with hate speech laws? Or laws banning the word fire at the theater?

  • @erikkovacs3097
    @erikkovacs30975 жыл бұрын

    Recycling center = Nickelback recording studio. Ha!

  • @stvargas69

    @stvargas69

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or Maroon 5

  • @RetroMMA

    @RetroMMA

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@stvargas69 Yeah, but Nickelback is actually pretty good if you don't buy into the mob mentality of the meme internet...

  • @CaptainCocaine

    @CaptainCocaine

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@RetroMMA They're talented, but their music is uninspired and formulaic.

  • @RetroMMA

    @RetroMMA

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CaptainCocaine Much like other bands, what you hear on the radio rotation gets over played but if you dig into some of their other works, they're quite good. That said, formulaic isn't necessarily 'bad' - it's like comfort food or watching the same TV series over and over.

  • @CaptainCocaine

    @CaptainCocaine

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@RetroMMA I don't mean formulaic as in they tend to follow the same types of patterns. I'm saying they write music specifically to formulas that are determined to be marketable.

  • @jeffersonianideal
    @jeffersonianideal5 жыл бұрын

    A "hate" crime may not result in punishment by government for speech but it essentially punishes thought. This type of authoritarian edict is also ludicrous.

  • @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks

    @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks

    5 жыл бұрын

    Like they said as tyrannical as it might be, "hate crimes" do reflect a justifiable reason to increase a punishment for any action, however it would be better suited if we just bake in the "hate crimes" by modifying existing law and take the "hate" reasoning and rephrase it to be "complete malice" or no rational reason for the act outside complete and utter unjustified malice towards another individual.

  • @beardoggin8963

    @beardoggin8963

    5 жыл бұрын

    jeffersonianideal exactly. “Hate” is an opinion. It was just used to help put down lynch mobs and the Klan in the south faster

  • @jeffersonianideal

    @jeffersonianideal

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@beardoggin8963 Thanks for the reply. Judicious punishment is administered based upon whether a defendant is guilty of the crime he/she is accused of. The reasons behind the crime may help to establish motive but do not solely provide concrete evidence leading to a guilty verdict. Murder is murder, no matter why the criminal act was committed. If possible, government would eagerly control the thoughts of its serfs. The leviathan State is continually making an effort to do so.

  • @jeffersonianideal

    @jeffersonianideal

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks Can someone hold a "hate" thought without committing a hate crime?

  • @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks

    @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffersonianideal hate crimes don't exist, but especially malicious crimes do. that's what "hate crimes" try to target. crimes where the offender has no reason but malice for theier reason to commit the crime. That is what you can define as a "hate crime." modifying existing laws to account for malice and hold criminals accountable based on that malice, is a better solution then implementing a "hate crime" that just targets thought more so than the actual crime and reasons for the crime.

  • @Cdogg-hd7pt
    @Cdogg-hd7pt5 жыл бұрын

    "They worry"- in the UK their worrys are reality

  • @CaptainCocaine

    @CaptainCocaine

    5 жыл бұрын

    "No one's coming for your guns" "No one's coming for your knives" "No one's going to be arrested for a racist joke" ... "No one's... uh... left..."

  • @bloomball356

    @bloomball356

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sadpants McGee wait I don’t get the joke

  • @nikonerf8410

    @nikonerf8410

    3 жыл бұрын

    In germany it is even worse then in then UK. Some people here get several years in prison for "hate speech".

  • @SusanBaileyAmazingEstate
    @SusanBaileyAmazingEstate5 жыл бұрын

    The three rules of hate speech: The first amendment. The first amendment. The first amendment.

  • @havanadaurcy1321

    @havanadaurcy1321

    3 жыл бұрын

    OK let's see you do it at work.

  • @theyedmeister6981

    @theyedmeister6981

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@havanadaurcy1321 That's private property, not public areas

  • @redredred8408

    @redredred8408

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theyedmeister6981 private picture frames*

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theyedmeister6981 Kells and windmills and shay mccay dark wood cabinets while there's oil and grease on the chemistry lab tables while there's lots of complaints about that in the new room you go in one day. Next Andover trip in 2 days when you're on the bus and when you hear the noise, it reminds you of compounds

  • @dolliesdieyes5590
    @dolliesdieyes55903 жыл бұрын

    Hate itself is not punishable, or wrong. Just as there is no _right_ to love, there is no _obligation_ to punish hate. People nowadays seem to forget that hate, in all it's forms, and the expression of one's hate, is a right of every human being. There are exeptions, of course, but everyone just sitting on his couch or walking the city has a damn right to hate and to communicate his hate.

  • @frzstat
    @frzstat5 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Very entertaining and makes us think. Thanks Prof. Volokh :)

  • @WillStrong7
    @WillStrong75 жыл бұрын

    Eugene Volokh is fantastic, more videos with him please!

  • @KOLODNY95

    @KOLODNY95

    5 жыл бұрын

    He announces at Volokh Conspiracy there will be a total of ten of the 1A messages.

  • @HuntingTarg
    @HuntingTarg5 жыл бұрын

    This is freaking digital gold. Bravo Zulu (that's Navalese for 'outstanding job').

  • @zxjim
    @zxjim5 жыл бұрын

    Even if such laws existed, would burning down the Nickelback recording studio be considered a hate crime? Or would it be considered a public service?

  • @EveryoneKnowsItsWendy
    @EveryoneKnowsItsWendy3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks JPR... Very enlightening

  • @Yatukih_001
    @Yatukih_0014 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the upload!

  • @stringX90
    @stringX905 жыл бұрын

    Great video that I can feel comfortable sharing with my progressive friends. Would love to see more like it.

  • @koala10ish

    @koala10ish

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Let say someone constantly disseminates a speech by saying we will wipe you out and then take your land to a community who legally own the land; and then one day he/she says on the face of one of the community members, and this member gets outraged and beats the person disseminating the speech; so, does the community member have the legal right to react that way spontaneously? Thank you for your clarification.

  • @AmericanWithTheTruth
    @AmericanWithTheTruth2 жыл бұрын

    Tell this to Facebook who literally banned my account again for calling someone ignorant. The term ignorant or foolish or arrogant or even an idiot does not hate speech they are real definitions of cognitive dissonance and decline. I am floored that the oligopoly of companies out there are literally rewriting the dictionary as we know it.

  • @TouristGuy

    @TouristGuy

    Жыл бұрын

    I doubt that. I need more context on what you wrote on Facebook which led to the termination of your account. I wouldn't be surprised if you used incendiary, inflammatory rhetoric.

  • @DR---

    @DR---

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TouristGuy You have been living under a rock having you? Pay more attention to the world around you.

  • @WeAreWafc
    @WeAreWafc5 жыл бұрын

    Great quote from the Supreme Court

  • @thomashealey8967
    @thomashealey89675 жыл бұрын

    Anyone know when Mostly Weekly comes back? (If at all...)

  • @blueknight5754
    @blueknight57545 жыл бұрын

    Great video..too bad not enough people will hear it!

  • @timothypopik2288
    @timothypopik2288Ай бұрын

    Definition. Speech you disagree with and hate to hear is now "hate speech".

  • @vaibhavgupta20
    @vaibhavgupta205 жыл бұрын

    Great video.

  • @voronOsphere
    @voronOsphere5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Presentation!

  • @hameggs4837
    @hameggs48375 жыл бұрын

    Great.

  • @stephendavis7112
    @stephendavis71124 жыл бұрын

    You lifted this design format from CPG Grey

  • @dd7694
    @dd7694 Жыл бұрын

    The truth is hate when you hate the truth! It is imperative we protect the fundamental right to speak hate speech. We don't want to end up like EU countries where free speech is a crime.

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    Banning hate speech for even saying fire in a theater risks banning nearly all speech

  • @MontrealLather
    @MontrealLather3 ай бұрын

    Can you send this video to The Canadian parliament please.

  • @tobyschmel5408
    @tobyschmel54085 жыл бұрын

    Great vid.

  • @k-techpl7222
    @k-techpl72225 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @sweetcara14
    @sweetcara145 жыл бұрын

    All "hate crimes" laws should be abolished, since they were always unconstitutional and it's not even possible for them to be evenly applied. Who cares what someone's "reason" is for killing, raping, maiming, etc? The consequences are still the same.

  • @AestheticEtiquette276

    @AestheticEtiquette276

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is factually incorrect. Intent matters. Hence the differentiated sentencing for various similar crimes i.e. Involuntary Manslaughter vs. Aggravated Murder; we would not punish an 18 year old who got drunk at a party and accidentaly killed someone in a car accident the same as we would punish Buffalo Bill for forcing a girl to put the lotion in the basket. We have a long judicial precedent of differentiating between intent and we have always punished accordingly. This isnt an abberant insertion into the legal system, this is a natural evolution. P.s. I am ardently anti-thought crime, I want Nazi's, Antifa, Ocasio-Cortez fans, MAGA hat wearers, Trotskyists, Trotskyites and Pinochet supporters to be able to march, tweet, gab, and chat on stormfront forums to their heart's content. I despise any restrictions on free speech.

  • @GinEric84

    @GinEric84

    5 жыл бұрын

    Were you not paying attention?

  • @ImNotJoshPotter

    @ImNotJoshPotter

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@AestheticEtiquette276 Accidental crime seems different than purposeful crimes done with different intents.

  • @AestheticEtiquette276

    @AestheticEtiquette276

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ImNotJoshPotter Absolutely, I was responding to the OP's assertion that "Who cares....the consequences are still the same" hence my statement "this is factually incorrect." Sometimes people unfamiliar with a particular concept need to hear it reiterated a couple of times. Which I totally get.

  • @ImNotJoshPotter

    @ImNotJoshPotter

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@AestheticEtiquette276 But outside of accidents why does intent matter? If a crime was done intentionally "who cares" why they did it?

  • @koala10ish
    @koala10ish2 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Let say someone constantly disseminates a speech by saying we will wipe you out and then take your land to a community who legally own the land; and then one day he/she says on the face of one of the community members, and this member gets outraged and beats the person disseminating the speech; so, does the community member have the legal right to react that way spontaneously? Thank you for your clarification.

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    Kells and moomoo windmills and shay mccay dark wood cabinets while there's oil and grease on the chemistry lab tables while there's lots some complaints from classmates about that in the new room you go in and sit down one day. Next, Andover trip in 2 days but then when you're on the bus and you hear the noise while going fast, it reminds you of compounds of the oil and orangish red grease, ;,

  • @thisisnotmyname1469
    @thisisnotmyname14694 жыл бұрын

    It's good this video exists. I think that the term first amendment is kinda thrown around alot, without people knowing about it's limitations and it's protections.

  • @sinistar99
    @sinistar995 жыл бұрын

    Is violating Disney's copyright on Chewbacca's image protected under the First Amendment?

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    Kells and moomoo windmills and shay mccay dark wood cabinets while there's oil and grease on the chemistry lab tables while there's lots some complaints from classmates about that in the new room you go in and sit down one day. Next, Andover trip in 2 days but then when you're on the bus and you hear the noise while going fast, it reminds you of compounds of the oil and orangish red grease

  • @greengreengreen5132

    @greengreengreen5132

    Жыл бұрын

    Banning hate speech RISKS banning nearly all speech..

  • @bob-km4uq
    @bob-km4uq5 жыл бұрын

    Where is episode 1?

  • @guitarloser07

    @guitarloser07

    5 жыл бұрын

    "7 Things You Should Know About Free Speech in Schools: Free Speech Rules (Episode 1)" watch?v=NOlNvaCS4VE

  • @eyesofibad2461
    @eyesofibad24612 ай бұрын

    I am from Portugal and i wish Europe had a 1st amendment equivalent. it makes so much sense to me.

  • @BaldwinVoice
    @BaldwinVoice Жыл бұрын

    Hate speech laws are in direct conflict with freedom of speech.

  • @notrelatedtoleeharvey5284
    @notrelatedtoleeharvey52845 жыл бұрын

    Bhahahahaha! 1:25 Such a subtle burn!

  • @NittyGritty420
    @NittyGritty420 Жыл бұрын

    Hate speech is free speech. Say whatever you want as long as you aren’t inciting violence or making threats you have that right. Don’t let anyone tell you any different.

  • @NittyGritty420

    @NittyGritty420

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jjw00dw-gt9xs a true threat is not protected by the first amendment. So it would be considered a hate crime not hate speech.

  • @drlobomalo
    @drlobomalo5 жыл бұрын

    2:18 "killing someone for money will get you a harsher punishment than killing them out of momentary anger" Wait a second, doesn't killing "out of momentary anger" describe the most negative interpretation of the action of the driver at Cville? His GPS indicated he was trying to get home and the two passengers he dropped off several minutes earlier said he was calm, not agitated. Maybe it depends on the definition of "momentary." IIRC, he sped up for about five seconds and reached 25-28 mph at point of impact.

  • @LizardLeliel

    @LizardLeliel

    5 жыл бұрын

    It should say "out of momentary anger at someone", which would describe cases like finding your wife cheating and acting on the moment. The driver wasn't driving into the crowd because there this one guy he wanted to kill in particular.

  • @VideoCesar07
    @VideoCesar075 жыл бұрын

    Problem today is people confuse "you said something that hurt my feelers" with hate speech.

  • @Mr._Moderate

    @Mr._Moderate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or you just want to normalize racist language? 🤔

  • @DarthSion6987

    @DarthSion6987

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mr._Moderate That's clearly not what this person is saying. Try to keep up.

  • @Mr._Moderate

    @Mr._Moderate

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DarthSion6987 or you can shut shut? 🤔

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mr._Moderate you probably support forced sterilization for the "unfit" too

  • @colinhiggins4779
    @colinhiggins4779 Жыл бұрын

    States can get around the hate speech issue by charging someone with a minor, or even frivolous crime, and then appending a felony hate crime charge on top of it, according to the speech. For instance: a guy in IL was arrested and charged with a felony hate-crime for giving a Nazi salute and shouting “white power” from behind the wheel of his car. The cops charged him with disorderly conduct, and then a felony, based on the content of his speech.

  • @FWRWARD

    @FWRWARD

    10 ай бұрын

    Very good point, they can limit free speech on the grounds of disorderly conduct. disorderly conduct laws are very vague anyways, they dropped the hate crime in a plea deal thou. the police and courts shouldn't act like a school principle

  • @Loathomar
    @Loathomar5 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Another exemption is, the classic "Yelling fire in a crowd" when there is not a fire, though it is part of the "inciting violence" exemption in that you created a "clear and present danger" with your words. Even though, here, you are not telling people to do anything illegal, like when people are "inciting violence", you are still creating real harm to people with words. And in civil law the 1st amendment is no where near as strong. Defamation and other things, like firing someone based on race or sex, can cause a lawsuit.

  • @johngalt6752

    @johngalt6752

    4 жыл бұрын

    Firing someone on the basis of race, religion, etc. Is not a First Amendment violation. That would be discrimination unless you were operating a Religious Institution.

  • @kcthinker
    @kcthinker5 жыл бұрын

    The term, "extra illegal," bothers me. It is seems the definition is not controllable.

  • @timothypopik2288
    @timothypopik2288Ай бұрын

    KZread disagrees with the content of this video.

  • @erwinrommel7008
    @erwinrommel70085 жыл бұрын

    Nice. We aall need a reality ✔

  • @espada9

    @espada9

    5 жыл бұрын

    And a spell check.....

  • @OutSideTheBoxFormat

    @OutSideTheBoxFormat

    5 жыл бұрын

    Reality checks not welfare checks.

  • @Thegingerbreadm4n
    @Thegingerbreadm4n7 ай бұрын

    Can I sue over half the people I’ve ever met now?

  • @deathlis
    @deathlis4 жыл бұрын

    Tell that to Seattle.

  • @scottkaiser6462
    @scottkaiser64623 жыл бұрын

    3:10 PERFECT sadly not many people, closest generation to our ruling workforce, know how to think and act alone with that method if u know or cognition let's say. PERFECT

  • @rjones9579
    @rjones95795 жыл бұрын

    Freedom of speech is a much bigger concept than, and precedes, the First Amendment. This video should have been entitled "First Amendment Rules", not "Free Speech Rules".

  • @zoo2you
    @zoo2you5 жыл бұрын

    Share this with the Google top brass.

  • @OutSideTheBoxFormat

    @OutSideTheBoxFormat

    5 жыл бұрын

    No doubt.

  • @daetslovactmandcarry6999
    @daetslovactmandcarry69995 жыл бұрын

    ... ¿Vandalism isn't protected? Huh. ... ¿Oops?

  • @namaste_ui
    @namaste_ui3 жыл бұрын

    KZread is changing day by day as it needs to adapt to the social and cultural terms of 2019. And while it’s no surprise that the video-sharing platform becomes more and more prone to censorship, however, the question is if all these changes are really needed or not. Before we address that point, let’s note that compared to recent changes in how ads are displayed, these new regulations should come with a positive outcome. Anyways, read the below. This might help. www.namasteui.com/things-you-should-know-about-hate-speech-in-any-youtube-video/ -- Regards, Sourav Basak Namaste UI

  • @WouterCloetens
    @WouterCloetens5 жыл бұрын

    As a nerd, I approve of this video. I chuckled at Chewbacca telling Spock that the Star Trek fanbase sucks, and at the #ffffff sign.

  • @bug5654

    @bug5654

    5 жыл бұрын

    I mean, they're both accurate enough. Star Trek: Discovery sucks ever so slightly much more than Episode VIII (which is an accomplishment), and some people's skin is closer to white than black.

  • @ChornyiKot
    @ChornyiKot5 жыл бұрын

    Quick!! Send this to Google, KZread, Facebook, Twitter, Patreon, Pintrest...... not that it would change anything but I like the idea Silicon Valley techno-censors will reconsider their censorous ways if only shown the light!

  • @CarterM2008

    @CarterM2008

    2 жыл бұрын

    Excuse me about your 2nd yr old comment, do you think that Tech Giants are Government Agencies? 1st Amendment ONLY prevents the GOVERNMENT from controlling your speech.

  • @Peter-ns6jg
    @Peter-ns6jg5 жыл бұрын

    ITS TIME TO CUT DOWN THE TALL TREES!

  • @dzhonnikihirin4006
    @dzhonnikihirin40067 ай бұрын

    I may not agree with what you say but i will defend your right to say it

  • @bug5654
    @bug56545 жыл бұрын

    I don't even know what to say...RAARGHHH! WAAARK!

  • @justinferguson3192

    @justinferguson3192

    2 жыл бұрын

    What you mean?

  • @savagedove1599
    @savagedove15995 жыл бұрын

    You should not be jailed if someone willing does something harmful because of what you said. They have complete control over your self, though i dont like that kind of behavior.

  • @kenp3L
    @kenp3L5 жыл бұрын

    Here's the problem: Say hateful ideas, speech, and/or expressive conduct = H. The penalty for H in the absence of any criminal conduct is X. As per the concept described in the first part of the video, X = 0. Now, The penalty for some specific _bone fide_ crime, in the absence of H is Y. The penalty for the same crime when accompanied by H is Z. Y + H = Z. As the video explains, Z > Y. That is, Y + H > Y. Subtracting Y from both sides of the inequality gives, H > 0. Therefore, the idea expressed in the second part of the video is a violation of the ideal of the first part. Enhanced penalties for H is a form of viewpoint discrimination.

  • @tylerchambers6246

    @tylerchambers6246

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, except applying rudimentary propositional modal logic to complex socio-political theory doesn't work, making your entire meandering pseudo-thought a big waste of space.

  • @kenp3L

    @kenp3L

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tylerchambers6246 It’s 122 words long. Hardly meandering in a subject that you describe as complex. I’m sensitive to wordiness and I believe I’ve avoided it here. Your point, though, is that “applying rudimentary propositional modal logic to complex socio-political theory doesn't work,” but you offer no evidence to support this.

  • @tylerchambers6246

    @tylerchambers6246

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@kenp3L Sure I do, provide evidence that is. The evidence is: it doesn't work. And I didn't say your post had too many words- I said it was meandering and purposeless. It was purposeless, not for its verbosity, but because applying rudimentary propositional logic to fields of discourse which exist beyond the scope of rudimentary propositional logic and require their own unique 'language games' is a pointless exercise. Human beings aren't PLNs. We're not probabilistic logic networks. Accordingly, analyzing a socio-political structure, aggregated dynamically out of the interactions of multiple human beings, is even more so outside the range of rudimentary logic. X=0 doesn't work because you're talking about things, about an 'X', that can be more than one thing at one time; things that are more nebulous than the purely logical constructs with which propositional logic is equipped to deal. X might = 0,1, and 175 all at once. You can't 'add' and 'subtract' things like constitutional rights, penalties, etc. from one another. It doesn't make sense. I invite you to read the paper: John Corcoran & Susan B Wood, "The Switches Paradox and the Limits of Propositional Logic."; Philosophy and Phenomenological Research, Vol. 34. No. 1; 1973. Check out Rieger-Nishimura lattices too when you have the time. It's about how the misuse of sentential logic can produce false paradoxes, like the one you indicated in your comment, which prompted me to respond.

  • @kenp3L

    @kenp3L

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tylerchambers6246 To summarize, you start with some circular-logic throat clearing, then offer an assertion of the existence of free will. Then you conflate the unpredictability of human behavior with the law. Then you give me some books to read. Judges add and subtract things all the time in the sentencing phase of a criminal trials. Surely you have heard of aggravating and mitigating circumstances. As the video states, a disfavored viewpoint or “hate,” in and of itself, cannot be criminalized. My point is that the basic punishment for the criminal act (we should hope) is matching to the gravity of the act itself. Additive punishment for “hate” is punishment for the convicted individual’s viewpoint. Again, basic punishment if for the criminal act itself; sentence enhancement for “hate” is viewpoint discrimination. As much as we dislike criminality and correctly believe that it should be punished, we should not practice viewpoint discrimination against criminals any more than we should practice it against non-criminals.

  • @FWRWARD

    @FWRWARD

    10 ай бұрын

    @kenp3L I think both your takes are right..yours is very interesting and kind of simplifies it in terms that highlights a moral incosistensy when put that way, but my reservation is that you have equated X=0 but logically how can you point out to something that doesn't exist if there is no penalty for H to begin with? therefore H ≠ X because X = ϕ (because X it doesn't exist) so H > ϕ is alright because H exists. idk lol

  • @EasytheGoon
    @EasytheGoon5 жыл бұрын

    Chewbacca isn't a ewok...

  • @macsnafu
    @macsnafu5 жыл бұрын

    Legal or not, you'll still get called out on social media and in real life for various and sundry perceived politically-incorrect speech.

  • @wk3820
    @wk38205 жыл бұрын

    Strictly speaking, any hate-crimes law is immoral simply because it punishes based on beliefs, which everyone has a human right to express. If a crime is committed because of the beliefs, the crime must be punished, but not the belief behind it. This was Civics 101 when I was a kid. sixth-grade stuff. What the hell happened to my country? We're now flunking sixth-grade civics en masse!

  • @ameennasar2583
    @ameennasar25832 жыл бұрын

    If you express your hatred honestly, it's free speech. But if you use illogical arguments and lies to purposely spreas hate, it is defamation(a crime)

  • @marilyncoyne4034
    @marilyncoyne40342 жыл бұрын

    Says who? SJC says NO SUCH THING

  • @nb4749
    @nb47495 жыл бұрын

    I hate pumpkin soup.

  • @wannamonslo9626
    @wannamonslo9626 Жыл бұрын

    *Ray Epps

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    Kells and moomoo windmills and shay mccay dark wood cabinets while there's oil and grease on the chemistry lab tables while there's lots some complaints from classmates about that in the new room you go in and sit down one day. Next, Andover trip in 2 days but then when you're on the bus and you hear the noise while going fast, it reminds you of compounds of the oil and orangish red grease..

  • @terry_willis
    @terry_willis Жыл бұрын

    The policy will change in the future when freedom is returned to the people.

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    Kells and moomoo windmills and shay mccay dark wood cabinets while there's oil and grease on the chemistry lab tables while there's lots some complaints from classmates about that in the new room you go in and sit down one day. Next, Andover trip in 2 days but then when you're on the bus and you hear the noise while going fast, it reminds you of compounds of the oil and orangish red grease -//

  • @Bozar069
    @Bozar0695 жыл бұрын

    Fucking a right buddy.

  • @ghooghkirkhighlife8279
    @ghooghkirkhighlife82795 жыл бұрын

    Please stop saying hate speech exist. It doesn't

  • @HitmanKingJay
    @HitmanKingJay2 жыл бұрын

    It's part of our great country and help build it

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    Kells and moomoo windmills and shay mccay dark wood cabinets while there's oil and grease on the chemistry lab tables while there's lots some complaints from classmates about that in the new room you go in and sit down one day. Next, Andover trip in 2 days but then when you're on the bus and you hear the noise while going fast, it reminds you of compounds of the oil and orangish red grease., ;

  • @jinchoung
    @jinchoung5 жыл бұрын

    fuck. yes!

  • @laurabee8259
    @laurabee82593 жыл бұрын

    Sorry but i’m more confused than before

  • @laurabee8259

    @laurabee8259

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ba'ako Durron that’s right, thanks

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@laurabee8259 Kells and moomoo windmills and shay mccay dark wood cabinets while there's oil and grease on the chemistry lab tables while there's lots some complaints from classmates about that in the new room you go in and sit down one day. Next, Andover trip in 2 days but then when you're on the bus and you hear the noise while going fast, it reminds you of compounds of the oil and orangish red grease

  • @coreyihler
    @coreyihler Жыл бұрын

    Well this is over

  • @redredred8408

    @redredred8408

    Жыл бұрын

    Rollover.. Rollover..

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    Kells and moomoo windmills and shay mccay dark wood cabinets while there's oil and grease on the chemistry lab tables while there's lots some complaints from classmates about that in the new room you go in and sit down one day. Next, Andover trip in 2 days but then when you're on the bus and you hear the noise while going fast, it reminds you of compounds of the oil and orangish red grease

  • @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa790
    @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa7902 жыл бұрын

    He looks like he got punched in the eye for his freedom of speech. I like the law but I can’t help but laugh!

  • @2ndAmendmentMF
    @2ndAmendmentMF Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @88Expert
    @88Expert10 ай бұрын

    please let's change the bill of rights... is soo outdated

  • @ruthlesssavagehatred6428
    @ruthlesssavagehatred64285 жыл бұрын

    Unpopular opinion: threats of violence should be protected under the first amendment

  • @freethebirds3578

    @freethebirds3578

    5 жыл бұрын

    Simply making statements that SJWs don't like is considered by them to be violent, so I can see why your statement makes some sense. But where do we draw the line between threat and incitement?

  • @SurajGrewal
    @SurajGrewal5 жыл бұрын

    Nickleback recording studio = recycling center.

  • @bug5654

    @bug5654

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, if you...Look at this photograph...

  • @TheVideomaker2341
    @TheVideomaker23415 жыл бұрын

    Rule #4: It doesn't apply for minorities or women.

  • @themanhimself1229

    @themanhimself1229

    5 жыл бұрын

    Crawling in my skin

  • @muchoed5119

    @muchoed5119

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why is that?

  • @themanhimself1229

    @themanhimself1229

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sliver170 Sure kiddo

  • @recoveringnewyorker2243
    @recoveringnewyorker22435 жыл бұрын

    1:13 Yet Madonna can say she has thought of blowing up the White House! Can you say double standard? I knew you could.

  • @theclamhammer4447
    @theclamhammer44475 жыл бұрын

    11 CNN reporters viewed this video.

  • @johngalt6752

    @johngalt6752

    4 жыл бұрын

    And they couldn't follow it...

  • @redredred8408

    @redredred8408

    Жыл бұрын

    Buzz light year

  • @roryscott2941
    @roryscott29415 жыл бұрын

    As a Trekkie I protest the treatment of my Star Wars fan counterparts. To compare that bold space epic to harry potter, even hypothetically, is a low blow. Haven't they suffered enough during the prequels?

  • @wanttogetfood
    @wanttogetfood5 жыл бұрын

    let me give you a hateful hug

  • @Spencerianism
    @Spencerianism5 жыл бұрын

    I hate speech.

  • @deniseallisonstout1901
    @deniseallisonstout19015 жыл бұрын

    Yes burn nickel back please

  • @NeanderthalDogma
    @NeanderthalDogma9 ай бұрын

    Iz real

  • @LilfoxTheHybridHylian5967
    @LilfoxTheHybridHylian59672 жыл бұрын

    They don't care

  • @LizardLeliel
    @LizardLeliel5 жыл бұрын

    I think most people are worried about speech being used to incite violence. Unite the Right rally, they were chanting "What do we want? Race war!" at one point, and the proud boys regularly encourage their members to be violent. Yet people are being more afraid of freely speaking against radical violence-inciting speech out of fear of being labelled "anti free-speech".

  • @DarthSion6987

    @DarthSion6987

    Жыл бұрын

    You could make the same argument against BLM and Antifa. Let's not pretend there aren't bad actors on both sides.

  • @LizardLeliel

    @LizardLeliel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DarthSion6987 Did you think I was pretending?

  • @hello-sz7hp

    @hello-sz7hp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LizardLeliel Kells and moomoo windmills and shay mccay dark wood cabinets while there's oil and grease on the chemistry lab tables while there's lots some complaints from classmates about that in the new room you go in and sit down one day. Next, Andover trip in 2 days but then when you're on the bus and you hear the noise while going fast, it reminds you of compounds of the oil and orangish red grease

  • @TreDogOfficial
    @TreDogOfficial5 жыл бұрын

    All speech ought to be legal. How can you honestly punish a citizen for expressing violent words? What if it's just two people who are rambunctious and just kidding around? Are you gonna step in as a third party and call the police? That's incredibly stupid. All speech ought to be free speech, even violent speech. Once someone actually makes good on their threats, only then should punishment come into the equation... And even then, there ought to be increments in the severity of the punishment, corresponding to the level of violence perpetrated. Like, if two guys are joking around and a buddy puts the other one in a pretend chokehold, that shouldn't be prosecuted. But if that chokehold results in injury, death, or even just unwanted contact, then punishment ought to come back into the equation. But as a general rule, we ought to side with less governance over human interaction. Laws and punishment should only be used to deter the worst excesses of human malevolence...and even then, we can't really expect to eradicate all of it. "He who governs least, governs best."

  • @Loathomar

    @Loathomar

    5 жыл бұрын

    Violent speech is 100% legal, no amount of "two people who are rambunctious and just kidding around" is illegal. The only time speech becomes illegal is then the speech cause or is intended to cause real violent. You can joke around about kill X people as much as you look and it is 100% legal, but you say the same thing to an angry mob who are reasonable likely to follow your directions, then it is illegal. Violent speech = legal, Speech that incites Violence = illegal. Even threats are 100% legal, if they are not consider viable. Ei, you friend does something to upset you and you say "I will kill you for that shit", but neither you nor your friend believe you have any intention to live up to that threat, it is not illegal. The legal bar for free speech in the US is extremely high, and your issues with it are not remotely based in reality.

  • @pimperish666
    @pimperish6665 жыл бұрын

    Bout to say if view point discrimination is illegal. Good to know. Interesting how cnn says civil rights laws are to protect a small group being in danger when in fact that’s false, the civil rights laws go both ways and are in place to protect a persons constitutional rights, not because they’re inferior. Last I checked the Supreme Court recently ruled hate speech isn’t hate speech its just speech someone else doesn’t agree with but if it’s speech which calls to danger to others like yelling there’s a fire in a movie theater then yes that is illegal.

  • @d2k82
    @d2k825 жыл бұрын

    Wookies are not Ewoks

  • @bullrun2772
    @bullrun2772 Жыл бұрын

    Seriously all your points you skim over it just speak to fast

  • @Charles-pf7zy
    @Charles-pf7zy2 жыл бұрын

    1:19 haha that aged well 1/6

  • @TheCossack

    @TheCossack

    2 жыл бұрын

    No it didnt..Nothing was burned on J6 the only burning done was 2 billion worth of damage by blm neanderthals

  • @alexanderjones84
    @alexanderjones844 жыл бұрын

    talk slower please. also comment #300 here.

  • @bullrun2772
    @bullrun2772 Жыл бұрын

    Goddam this KZreadalso has a big ego and is offended damn your really funny

  • @michellefirmamentalist815
    @michellefirmamentalist8156 ай бұрын

    There is speech or no speech. This is really stupid. KZread videos are becoming twilight zone for preschoolers.