The 3 Biggest Problems With The C15 and 3406E.

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In this video the 3 biggest problems with the Cat C15 and 3406E in my opinion are discussed.
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  • @traviseggl3794
    @traviseggl37942 жыл бұрын

    Never really had these issues until I had almost 1 million miles on them. My 500hp, 1850tq 6NZ made it to almost 1 million miles before the head gasket went. I had an MXS C15 Acert tuned by PDI that was around 700 hp at the flywheel make it to just over 960,000 miles before the head gasket went on that. The spacer plate gasket was seeping a little for a number of months on the Acert, but it wasn't dripping oil on the ground or anything before overhaul. This was all pulling tri axle hopper bottom trailers grossing 94,000 to over 100,000 lbs. Oil changes at around 10,000 miles. 15w40 Rotella, no additives.

  • @oldpete3153
    @oldpete31534 жыл бұрын

    I owned two E-Models...a 95 rated at 475 and the last a 2000 rated at 550, other than sensor issues with the 95 and one structure oil leak they were bullet proof. 👍

  • @holmes1956O

    @holmes1956O

    3 жыл бұрын

    Driven properly they are. I have had 2 cats a 3406A and 3406B put over 2 million miles on each without much trouble. The B had deck problems when I bought it. Fixed it and never looked at it again. The A had the steel fire rings so no deck problems. Keep them above 1200 rpms and you should never have a deck head gasket problem

  • @earlbailey3767

    @earlbailey3767

    2 жыл бұрын

    🙏🙏

  • @thetowndrunk988

    @thetowndrunk988

    2 жыл бұрын

    Over 2 million miles on my brother’s 96 379 with a 3406E. Wish he’d kept that truck

  • @noo7073

    @noo7073

    Жыл бұрын

    Real nice engine in they're time these days you need a 7 to 8 mph wich it's never going to happen with 🐈 unfortunately. It is what it is. 🤷

  • @oscar8pote

    @oscar8pote

    Жыл бұрын

    1200 rpm in driving or ideal

  • @giggiddy
    @giggiddy4 жыл бұрын

    Love your presentation and no nonsense, easy to understand style. You have the voice tone and pace down perfectly and your knowledge is impressive. I personally prefer linger videos- but that's not a critique. Thanks for taking the time to do these.

  • @raytrailer1468

    @raytrailer1468

    4 жыл бұрын

    Josh has that good California education. And he speaks very clear

  • @eddiegerlach7121
    @eddiegerlach71214 жыл бұрын

    Wow, scary stuff! I've been blessed over my career...only had two C-15 6NZ's in my life...changed the oil every 10-12k miles and substituted a gallon of Lucas Oil treatment. After an oil service, the technician would remark at how clean the dipstick would look....ran Overheads at CAT, both got great gas mileage (6.5-8mpg, depending on load and terrain), and both had over 1.2M before eventually selling them. Worst mistake I ever made..but blessed I never experienced these issues represented in the video. Thank you for sharing! 👍

  • @dimab8753

    @dimab8753

    3 жыл бұрын

    How often did you run overheads?

  • @eddiegerlach7121

    @eddiegerlach7121

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dimab8753 Every 50K miles....I had an old CAT and just starting out in Trucking...couldn't afford a major issue, so I spent on maintenance incrementally. You could tell the difference...ran quieter, cooler, got better mileage....guess I was on of the fortunate ones...

  • @dbish2049

    @dbish2049

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dimab8753 What’s an “overhead”?

  • @dimab8753

    @dimab8753

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dbish2049 engine head valves adjustment

  • @dbish2049

    @dbish2049

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dimab8753 thanks for the explanation.

  • @stevemacisaac2633
    @stevemacisaac26334 жыл бұрын

    Even with these issues, it’s still a crying shame these engines aren’t offered in on Highway trucks anymore..

  • @mt1885

    @mt1885

    4 жыл бұрын

    Due to the environmental activist (Climate SCAM) - they banned them. Eventually those are banned to and what would you know diesel is banned. Oh wait, it will be electric, good luck as the mining required is banned so guess what they are now banned and the 1940's power grid is *decrepit* and 'brown outs' are now the new normal. In California they are not fixing 'gas' powered plants and stated 'outages' will be the new normal. Don't believe it, the way California goes the rest of the Nation goes.

  • @julioramirez1638

    @julioramirez1638

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mt1885 CUMMINS

  • @joescheller6680

    @joescheller6680

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mt1885 the country no longer jumps when California barks

  • @athonynesbitt7956

    @athonynesbitt7956

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your so right

  • @briantruck2284

    @briantruck2284

    3 жыл бұрын

    😪

  • @larrytalley117
    @larrytalley1174 жыл бұрын

    Love yer videos...enjoy the technical approach and solid technical information.

  • @omonigbehinolawale5414
    @omonigbehinolawale54143 жыл бұрын

    Adept Ape I really appreciate your effort God bless you, I have a c15 generator that just started bringing blue smoke

  • @1960jelliott
    @1960jelliott2 жыл бұрын

    A well presented video. I had a 5EK in a '96 Marmon. Trouble spots included the following: 1. Major oil leak when the oil pan cracked at the transition between the front half and the front wall of the deep sump. This was concealed by the sound damping shield, which was subsequently discarded when Cat did the warranty work on the pan. A noticeable increase in cab noise with the shield removed. 2. Protective sleeve on the front engine harness wore through where it was routed around a sharp edge of the head casting above the air compressor. I had taken it in several times for intermittent fault codes, and finally discovered the damage to the harness on the side of the road. Warranty repaired. 3. Major turbo failure when an insulator sleeve inside one exhaust port fractured. This resulted from the sharp edge of the counterbore on the manifold mating side of the head casting wearing a notch into the formed radius of the sleeve. A couple of the other sleeves were similarly affected, and near failure themselves. Fortunately, this occurred around 30 days before my warranty expired. The $15k repair bill would've sunk me! While this engine was a fairly reliable workhorse, mostly hauling heavy loads in the Pacific Northwest, I was always a little nervous about its copious blow-by. It kept the chassis well-oiled and free of rust. Fortunately I was not visited by any of the demons in your video! Thanks for the detailed insights.

  • @Coyner4321
    @Coyner43214 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, very informative. I love learning from you and also my small local shop here at home.. small, family run business and the owner has been working on Cat motors for over 30 years now. I can never get enough knowledge and I learn something new every day! Would you ever consider doing a "common failures" video on the C-12? That's what's in my truck. My next truck will have a big Cat, but until then, I love my C-12. Pulls great for what it is and I do the maintenance on it to the best of my abilities, running good oil, overhead adjustment every year, etc., etc. I've heard they like to flatten camshaft lobes if they aren't maintained properly, not sure if that's true or not. Either way, keep on keepin' on man! Thanks again!

  • @kerrygleeson4409
    @kerrygleeson44094 жыл бұрын

    Always very interesting Josh thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺👀

  • @billshewmake9660
    @billshewmake96602 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. The explanations and causes along with details that you explain in your vids are spot on. Learned a lot from your vids and have done a lot of work on my 99 3406e 2ws. If it wasn't for your vids, I don't think I would have tried alot of the work I did myself. Thanks again n keep em coming..

  • @shannonbrown7659
    @shannonbrown76594 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing !!!

  • @MrSharky104
    @MrSharky1044 жыл бұрын

    Very informative. Thanks Josh.

  • @joerangel611
    @joerangel6114 жыл бұрын

    Josh Good afternoon Thank You so much for this video It makes a lot of sense. This COVID issue has been painful Your video help me to keep my mind easy on this time Thank You

  • @AdeptApe

    @AdeptApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    I feel bad I didn't make it longer then. Glad you liked it.

  • @bryanwilliams9589
    @bryanwilliams95894 жыл бұрын

    I have rebuilt many 3406B,C,E and C15,C16 and I have never seen one leak under the spacer plate gasket ever! But just the other day a buddy of my buys a Pete out of Cali, with a "MBN bridge C15" cat. And there it is, the first ever one I have seen leaking under the spacer plate gasket. Luckily that night @theadeptape loads a video about common problems, and there it is... Thanks Josh for your knowledge and videos! The other thing you could add to the video was exhaust manifold sections on a twin turbo ACCERT. I did a bunch of those. P.S. The C13 motors (after the liner update) are one of the most under rated engines. You can compare them directly to a B model as far as HP and Torque, but sipping on fuel in economy. 👍👍

  • @bradsmith5838

    @bradsmith5838

    3 жыл бұрын

    What kinda of mpg would a c15 and a c13 have in a pete379 single axle day cab, not otr but for farm use? 55-60 top speed. I'm looking at two different trucks. Thanks

  • @bryanwilliams9589

    @bryanwilliams9589

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bradsmith5838 Fuel mileage has more to do with gear ratio, load, terrain and driver's lead foot. More than any engine out there. But you can't go wrong with a single axle Pete with either C15 or C13. I would pick the C13, myself. Plenty of torque, and really reliable. Good luck, let us know what you pick.

  • @TroubleActual
    @TroubleActual4 жыл бұрын

    I agree with all you said! Found a set screw from jake housing in oil pan during service on C15. Pulled covers and found jake housing cracked in half right beside bolts like you said. I have a 3406C in 96 Peterbilt now. [For Sale BTW]. I have small oil leaks on pan gasket. Other than that i can't complain much. I floated valves in September 2016, backroads of WV, 9% grade, jakes not working. Didn't realize what happened but it stayed together until February 2017 when valves melted into #3 piston. New head and cylinder pack. No problems since. Thx for the videos

  • @plumber77mjr
    @plumber77mjr4 жыл бұрын

    you have so much knowledge, wow

  • @boom192channel
    @boom192channel3 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thank you for your info.

  • @omonigbehinolawale5414
    @omonigbehinolawale54143 жыл бұрын

    Your video is a blessing to my carrier

  • @yahson311
    @yahson311 Жыл бұрын

    Your a good teacher, thanks for sharing your knowledge

  • @jhonyromanesco2269
    @jhonyromanesco22694 жыл бұрын

    Hi, good video like always good job, sad not see in the new trucks any more, thank you...

  • @onthemove4300
    @onthemove43004 жыл бұрын

    Another great video.. thanks!

  • @stormyweather9054
    @stormyweather90544 жыл бұрын

    Right on Professor once again word's all Cat owners SHOULD KNOW even of u don't twist ur on bolts this information is priceless as to keep from being ripped off @ repair shop .Nice work Josh really appreciate the time / effort u put into these videos .

  • @AdeptApe

    @AdeptApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the kind and encouraging words.

  • @jcjc2593
    @jcjc25934 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always... My 3406E 1LW still strong after 1.1 million miles Oil cooler,turbo and few leaks but still pulling like a train... I try to learn from you and I do everything I can on my truck to save some money... I did the overhead by my self just by watching your videos... Thanks from Costa Rica

  • @MrWisdom79

    @MrWisdom79

    3 жыл бұрын

    How's your fuel mileage?

  • @jcjc2593

    @jcjc2593

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrWisdom79 Hi it says 5.2 Mpg Geography here is very different than in U.S and we travel thru traffic all the time...

  • @MrWisdom79

    @MrWisdom79

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jcjc2593 thank you.

  • @timj3587

    @timj3587

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a 1lw also and just rebuilt it but do you have the side mount breather tube? Mine still has some blowby after rebuild and I think it might be because of that side mount breather. It's supposed to be a valve cover breather.

  • @jcjc2593

    @jcjc2593

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@timj3587 Yeah I still got that breather but the blowby is not that bad just barely u can see it... I want to swap to the valve cover one too... Look for c&jdieselreapair on TIKTOK and adtruckingrepair too the are pretty good mechanics in North Dakota Good luck my friend

  • @fernandocabral275
    @fernandocabral2754 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your knowledge adept ape hopefully one day i can have that experience and knowledge on my belt. thanks again

  • @santososornia5741
    @santososornia57413 жыл бұрын

    Your bad ass thanks for take my time for us!

  • @fredsimmons6188
    @fredsimmons61882 жыл бұрын

    I was assigned a 95 FLD-120 with 300,000 miles on it in 98 with a 3406E 425 horse Cat. I have no idea what repairs were done on this engine before then. All I know is that I drove this tractor until 2010. It never left me on the side of the road ever. The company retired this tractor out from under me with 1,045,000 miles on it when a rocker arm broke. I'd be happily driving that old Freightshaker today if they'd fixed it.

  • @johncunningham4820

    @johncunningham4820

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Rocker Arm . Like what was mentioned here ? I wonder what else got hurt at the same time ?

  • @brownwrench
    @brownwrench4 жыл бұрын

    Seems remarkably similar to Cummins (BC 3 & 4)on the gasket/liner issue, though I never had a catstrophic failure. Had bubbling and all, but no real failures.

  • @holmes1956O

    @holmes1956O

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its the same problem. Never lug them and you should not have a problem. Cat used to have steel fire rings in the deck that the liners sat on. They didnt have problems with liners dropping until they took the fire rings out.

  • @RichardJW1
    @RichardJW14 жыл бұрын

    extremely interesting....many thanks

  • @chrise3801
    @chrise38014 жыл бұрын

    Great video thank you

  • @josedejesusflorespliego9273
    @josedejesusflorespliego92734 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much, for all this information!!!

  • @Feemhauler

    @Feemhauler

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey I saw you on America's most wanted ...

  • @josedejesusflorespliego9273

    @josedejesusflorespliego9273

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Feemhauler jajajajajaja

  • @eliwillis1
    @eliwillis14 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again

  • @countryrebel01
    @countryrebel013 жыл бұрын

    I had 1.3 mil on my C15 before I inframed it and it could have kept going but I didn't want to push it much harder with our heavy loads of 106,000. After the inframe the metal gasket did start leaking oil and the mechanic had to go back in and permatex it which solved the oil leak all the way around the block. Use to break rocker arms on this MBN but I stopped engine braking above 1800rpm and haven't had a problem since. I have three kenworths all with C15s, two acerts and one single turbo. I'm a diehard cat guy and I've ran them all my life and they're just a damn good engine! TA1693, 3406B,E , C15.

  • @xtremetransportationllc6117

    @xtremetransportationllc6117

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow. I never engine brake over 15-1600. Maybe that’s because I’m never that heavy or in mountains. Thanks for heads up

  • @RodFamVlogs

    @RodFamVlogs

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too. No engine break above 1,600. Shouldn’t have problem

  • @gaetanbolduc8417
    @gaetanbolduc84174 жыл бұрын

    Great videos.!

  • @michaelmcclure8673
    @michaelmcclure8673 Жыл бұрын

    I've owned 1 cat but drove many others. Hands down if taken care of these are my favorite engine.😍😍😍

  • @missinglink5071
    @missinglink50713 жыл бұрын

    Driving a 2000 long nose pete just under 53000 hours on an all original c15 just started to have the head gasket issue awesome engine

  • @BilalAhmed-gs6pu
    @BilalAhmed-gs6pu4 жыл бұрын

    You have knowledge and thank you sharing with us.you are a great man 👍

  • @jamizaman2255

    @jamizaman2255

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Bilal, are you working for BanglaCat?

  • @freerepublicusa2064
    @freerepublicusa2064Ай бұрын

    I’m bidding on a 2003 pete 379 sleeper with 3406e , blowing white smoke. Assuming it’s the HG and hopefully not needing new liners and counterbores. I’m buying the truck to use as my RV puller. I’m a diy diesel nut. Self taught. I’ve rebuilt smaller Cummins (isb 5.9s/6.7s/ duramax 6.6s, 7.6 dt466, 3126 baby cats), want to thank you for the great videos and information you provide!

  • @thecat6062
    @thecat60624 жыл бұрын

    Another great video! Looking forward to class #3 of Diesel 101.

  • @AdeptApe

    @AdeptApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Number 3 has been out for a month, but had gotten very little views unfortunately.

  • @thecat6062

    @thecat6062

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AdeptApe Oops, My mistake, I meant number 4. I watched #3. Thank you!

  • @HeadshotHarry
    @HeadshotHarry4 жыл бұрын

    Woo new vid! Could you do another video like this on the C10 and C12? (I can't remember I'm about to go look if you've already done so) even so do another one even if you have lol. I can always count on you to pop up with a new video on a topic that I've recently been wondering about. I've seriously been wondering what the different known problems of each cat engine were. Keep up the good work!

  • @AdeptApe

    @AdeptApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well this video is doing very well on views so I might have to make this a series. Thanks for the informative comment.

  • @HeadshotHarry

    @HeadshotHarry

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AdeptApe Definitely man, keep it up you have great content

  • @rashidkhanstatus398
    @rashidkhanstatus3984 жыл бұрын

    Good job bro your every video is usefull In my work ❤️ please make electrical work of generator in new video please with programming

  • @nevnev929
    @nevnev9293 жыл бұрын

    Keep up the good work bro

  • @bigred1247
    @bigred12472 жыл бұрын

    Josh IPD has solved the liner walking issue i have hard running cattle haulers using their new sleeves and pistons over 1 million miles and still going strong and they run fast n hard.enjoy your experience thanks.

  • @mattmonteith2175
    @mattmonteith21752 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @chevy36ful
    @chevy36ful4 жыл бұрын

    Great video, all the problems you talk about only happen with truck engines, is your shop many trucks??

  • @HarleybyHerm_
    @HarleybyHerm_4 жыл бұрын

    I’m Dealing with the liner issue & bubbling pressure gasses in coolant right now as we speak

  • @briantruck2284

    @briantruck2284

    3 жыл бұрын

    😪 one liner coolant seal oil rings

  • @briantruck2284

    @briantruck2284

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or head gasket 😪

  • @jquan8741
    @jquan87414 жыл бұрын

    I think the counter bore is some of the problems my buddies have had. And I’m having that rocker arm issue NOW

  • @ph8768
    @ph87682 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed that thanks

  • @wilhelmenns791
    @wilhelmenns7913 жыл бұрын

    This is a useful KZread video. Not just a silly blog like most new videos are

  • @marcos1689

    @marcos1689

    3 жыл бұрын

    Silly blogs with obnoxious 'music'.

  • @asierra8943
    @asierra89434 жыл бұрын

    Ok. Thanks once again for your videos. I'm kinda confused with Problem#1 and #3. So they must go together right? A gasket and the plate gasket.

  • @shanepersons383
    @shanepersons3834 жыл бұрын

    Very good vid bud!! 👍🏽👍🏽

  • @AdeptApe

    @AdeptApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @arthanza112
    @arthanza1124 жыл бұрын

    I've driven 2 of those and the first time I see is that gasket leak.

  • @gm16v149
    @gm16v1494 жыл бұрын

    I’ve found Loctite 515 or 518 is a good solution for the spacer plate issue, as it is an anaerobic sealant and “bonds” the metal. Rocker shaft and rocker arm problems are compounded by Jake brake use. I don’t have those Jake problems on my 3408 as it has the CAT hydraulic Brakesaver. Heavy, and plenty of pipes and the control valve which make it a bastard to get the oil pan off, but the engine has lasted for tens of thousands of hours.

  • @iBackshift

    @iBackshift

    4 жыл бұрын

    Make some more V-8 Sound vidyas. That one where you had the camera under the cab looking at the turbo sounds sooooooo deadly with a set of headphones on.

  • @brianadams429

    @brianadams429

    2 жыл бұрын

    My pops is a mechanic, but he worked more on gas engines, anyhow he used the Aviation i want to say made by Mr. Gasket. Anyway i had to take a head off that he put on, with all the head bolts removed it took a big ass pry bar to get the head to break loose.

  • @naseerakhatar1794
    @naseerakhatar17944 жыл бұрын

    good jobs

  • @naseerakhatar1794

    @naseerakhatar1794

    4 жыл бұрын

    old model caterpillar Engine so nice and powerful like 3306 3406 8 12, so nice

  • @LyndenMcconnell
    @LyndenMcconnell14 күн бұрын

    I've been running Cats since 1972. I have never had those problems with all the engines I've owned. I rebuilt them anywhere from 900k to a million three hundred. Never had to cut a block. Have had heads crack using remans tho.

  • @trihall2273
    @trihall22732 жыл бұрын

    Excellent

  • @mikebiro3148
    @mikebiro31483 жыл бұрын

    The issues i had with them, were broken exhaust studs, broken injector rockers, cam, hand pump, injector barrells. In the early 2000s.

  • @alexmatthews2332
    @alexmatthews23324 жыл бұрын

    Was working at a farm and their C15 Western star just had head gasket done. Another local farmer pulls in with his truck pulls in freaking out with his truck boiling over trying to get some water. Opens the hood and there's a 3406!

  • @carsandmoods3593
    @carsandmoods3593 Жыл бұрын

    My first CAT experience was with a C15. it was in a 2001 Peterbilt 379 and it had just shy of 1.1 Million miles on the clock. And it was hauling 132,000lbs gross everyday in hot weather. It was a great experience. Never had a problem with it. However I have been hearing about the problems with head gaskets at around 800,000 Miles. I want to buy my own Peterbilt 379 with a C15 or C15 ACERT perhaps, but don't know if I should go with Detroit 60 for reliability. The truck I currently Drive is a 389 with a PACCAR MX13 with about 347,000 miles on it. I have to change the Crankcase Filter on it this week. Last month I dropped a Driveshaft on it. And I had a trans cooling line leak. all within the space of 6 weeks. It hauls heavy also, pulls when she needs to. But I feel I am overworking it. I would expect these kinds of problems to occur a lot later at around 600 -800k miles. I am scratching my head as to which motor to haul with on heavier spec up to 132,000lbs.

  • @travissk5036
    @travissk50362 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou

  • @Grtruckingdemolitionllc
    @Grtruckingdemolitionllc4 жыл бұрын

    Same oil leak with my c-15

  • @truckersherm7249

    @truckersherm7249

    4 жыл бұрын

    How many miles on your c15? Are they really reliable engines? I'm contemplating getting one. I hope to hear from you soon.

  • @zachsteele6964

    @zachsteele6964

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@truckersherm7249 this guy has a video on them I think

  • @truckersherm7249

    @truckersherm7249

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zachsteele6964 Thanks.

  • @terrymillard9255
    @terrymillard92554 жыл бұрын

    Forgot one, the oil return from the head to the block. The epoxy fix. I still thick it is the best engine Cat ever made Had a "b" model and an "e" model. The "c" well not so much

  • @mohammadalissa8255
    @mohammadalissa82554 жыл бұрын

    Nice video

  • @jamesonbest9686
    @jamesonbest96864 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Could you make one about the C13? That’s what I run in my truck, I like the engine I just can’t get good fuel mileage out of it and it tends to run on the hotter side no matter what I do to it.

  • @alexmoloney1560

    @alexmoloney1560

    4 жыл бұрын

    what truck is it in?

  • @jamesonbest9686

    @jamesonbest9686

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alex Moloney 2007 T800

  • @chrisjimenez603

    @chrisjimenez603

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@cottonwood3592 lol.

  • @luffy-ks1dm

    @luffy-ks1dm

    4 жыл бұрын

    get a ecm tune?

  • @Truckerdaddy

    @Truckerdaddy

    3 жыл бұрын

    My Pete 385 gets about 5.5mpg but it runs around 200-210 during the heat of the day but at night it runs around 180.

  • @oldcatmech
    @oldcatmech Жыл бұрын

    Any time I had to put in inserts under the liners, tried to do them all! the stainless steal helps to dissipate the heat between the liner and cylinder block, ever notice it is right where the valves are close to the liners! Their opening and closing heats and cools the liner causing movement of the liner on the cylinder block, very small but over time it adds up! Seen this on all the engines, I use to do the insert jobs in the field and shop for years! Next time you pull the liners compare where the valves are to the wear area! Did the filler band do more harm than good, it moved the coolant down the liner about 3/8 of an inch from the liner flange, just a thought?

  • @mangatsinghdeol2941
    @mangatsinghdeol29413 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Adept, what is an estimated cost to replace spacer plate gasket on Cat 3406e model that is leaking. very informative video as usual as we expect from you. Thank you.

  • @montedyoung3247
    @montedyoung32473 жыл бұрын

    You are pretty knowledgeable, so which engine would you look for in a trk?

  • @ramirogonzalez8606
    @ramirogonzalez86064 жыл бұрын

    Hey bro i like your videos I’m been seeing it for quite some time. Nice information. I have a 2005 peterbilt c15 mxs i can see that problem coming up, What oil brand will be good for this engine? I try delo 400 and rotella i just put in Mystik tj8 15/50 what do you think?

  • @cindytepper8878
    @cindytepper88784 жыл бұрын

    We work mostly on local and vocational trucks. The biggest problem we see with them are the liner O-Rings leaking coolant into the oil. Mostly seems to be older but low mileage trucks. How well the coolant has been tested/conditioned is kinda unknown. They are mostly construction trucks, so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  • @smokeywheels957
    @smokeywheels9572 жыл бұрын

    Great videos and excellent information. I'm looking at a 2008 Country Coach with a C15 50000 miles. It seems to run great and has a lot of power when driving. When returning from a test drive there is oil coming out of the dipstick tube. Any ideas on this? Is there a crankcase vent or filter that may be plugged? Thanks in advance, Dave

  • @chriswoodward5368
    @chriswoodward53683 жыл бұрын

    The greatest engine ever made I hade some 6NZ at 550 HP. My only complaint was camshafts every one of them hade a camshaft go out do to a cam follower failure at one time or another. All fails be for the end of the warranty thankfully. All ran over a million mills. I wish I could by trucks with motor to day.

  • @lewisshaffer9467
    @lewisshaffer94674 ай бұрын

    Agreed. We replace it everytime we pull the head. Expensive yes. After all, it's not a 318. Again agreed. They break and if you're lucky it makes a hell of a racket til you get to a safe haven. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Nice to meet you finally sir if you actually read this. Oh wait. Head gaskets have got my ass chewed more than once. 2 heads once. I heard, "we'll not do this again" followed by the you ain't watching your gages. Oil temp too

  • @kyleschwarting662
    @kyleschwarting6622 жыл бұрын

    I use cats thinner spacer plate and shoot for 12-13 thousands protrusion. Yes I know........its a sheet of paper extra.....its fine....its all about cylinder seal, why not add a little pressure in the spot that needs it.... I then use coppercoat on both gaskets, takes up 3 thousands and it seals it. New bolts every time. Make sure head is flat. 600hp motors lots of miles no head gasket failures or even leaks for that matter..........haven't had many rocker arm problems, but this fixes two of your issues with a cat. Permanently....

  • @nevinkuser9892
    @nevinkuser98926 ай бұрын

    This reminds me of the 02 land Rover discovery that was put into production with known slipping cylinder sleeves.

  • @78mrdad
    @78mrdad4 жыл бұрын

    N14 well over One million and still pulling 80000 pounds across the US

  • @justinmartin8887

    @justinmartin8887

    4 жыл бұрын

    They don’t want to hear about the other silent million mile warriors. The only engine that counts to narrow minded cat fans is caterpillars

  • @hereandthere6877

    @hereandthere6877

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have a C15, but I can appreciate cummins as well. They have just as much experience as CAT and then some: they're heading forth into this emissions control era and doing their best to preserve what makes trucking great for all of us. They're not going down to 11 liter engines, they've got their 15 liters. They're the only independent engine manufacturer still on the market. And they dominate it. Definitely have respect for our red diesel brother 👍

  • @Tyler-xe1es

    @Tyler-xe1es

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@justinmartin8887 Ape acknowledges other brands you would know that if you have been around long enough... so for your narrow minded brain, He is a Cat specialist that is why everything he creates is Cat related.

  • @justinmartin8887

    @justinmartin8887

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tyler Chauvin call me narrow minded if you want. I have been in the heavy truck repair business for 10 years now, and although some of the c15 and 3406 engines are excellent, they are hyped up way more then they should be. Power? Kt cummins takes it home every day. And I’ve seen my fair share of signature series that would pound a c15 in he dirt. Fuel economy and longevity? Detroit 12.7. C15 and 3406 just have a decent combination the three, witch makes them outstanding. These truckers and their cat stuff just gets old. It’s not a miracle, it’s just a hunk of iron

  • @855cubes8
    @855cubes84 жыл бұрын

    Good videos have picked up on a few little tricks with these cats from you thanks for that,can i ask what is the likelihood of an ECU powering up after being unplugged for 5 years cheers from australia.

  • @chevy36ful

    @chevy36ful

    4 жыл бұрын

    Should be no problems, have power up a lot on old engines out the back yard never been a problem

  • @arthanza112
    @arthanza1124 жыл бұрын

    Also another issue with that engine. The coolant sensor by the back of the water pump. Diverter valve on ACERT engines.

  • @joescheller6680
    @joescheller66802 жыл бұрын

    They are available we just put two into kits. Ordered directly from Butler

  • @jamest828
    @jamest8284 жыл бұрын

    Just the other day i had to fix broken rocker shaft bolts on an acert, not the first one and won’t be the last one!

  • @Hec-Thor-23
    @Hec-Thor-234 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing all your knowledge, it’s not very common specially cause you’re young, I’ve ran into so-called master technicians that won’t even tell you the time... I’m having a hard time to understand the protrusion part of the video and since I own a C-15 I’d like to know what I need to do when rebuilding it, if I ever have the guts to do it myself, can you explain it to me please?

  • @AdeptApe

    @AdeptApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have a more detailed video on the subject. If you have a specific question you can email me at AdeptApe@yahoo.com

  • @johngoldsmith6629

    @johngoldsmith6629

    4 жыл бұрын

    The flange of the cylinder liner has to be so high above the spacer plate. Older engines the block was recessed for the liner to set in. Either way if the liner is to low above the spacer plate. The fire ring on the head gasket will not crush out properly and will leak gases. Eventually the gasket will burn the fire ring and start pushing coolant out of the radiator if it fails into a coolant passage. Or it can fail between cylinders and have two cylinders passing compression between the two. And if the front or rear fails it will blow gases out of the engine. Have seen rear blow between bolt holes and burn through the firewall of the cab. If it is to high when you torque the cylinder head down, it will have to much pressure and break the liner flanges. The top of the liner has a raised area then drops back down where the fire ring sets. The raised area is your fire dam. As the engine breaks in carbon will form in the area between the bottom of the head and the fire dam. This will help protect the fire ring of the head gasket as the engine gets older. Since diesel's have so much compression you try to keep the heat directly off the fire ring of the gasket as long as possible. As with anything the gasket will eventually fail over time. As the cylinder fires the liner expands and contracts. The blunt of this happens where the liner and block join, as it is a metal to metal seal. If you turn up the engine you create more heat causing this joint even more problems. Erosion occurs on the block and liner. As the liner is replaceable, no problem. The cylinder block has to be replaced, milled, or counterbored. Since counterbore can be done in the frame, it is the cheapest option.

  • @johngoldsmith6629

    @johngoldsmith6629

    4 жыл бұрын

    Time of overhaul, remember this. Cat offers an OPT rebuild at a authorized dealer. I recommend a CAT dealer to do this. Certain parts must be replaced, some parts are an option to replace. Some items, like cylinder block, crankshaft, do not have to be replaced. If they pass inspection they are covered under the contract. You can get up to a four year warranty on certain items. I would consider this, especially if you drive nationwide.

  • @rayoca9489
    @rayoca94894 жыл бұрын

    Long life to the yellow cat !

  • @williamwade7059
    @williamwade70593 жыл бұрын

    Should've seen this video last year when i still had a warranty.

  • @thorsbyguy5121
    @thorsbyguy51214 жыл бұрын

    Derek, that's not two mufflers. Front thing is a muffler, rear thing is a resonator, to dampen harmonic vibrations. Lots of small touches in this car to keep it quiet and smooth, like constant velocity joints in the driveshaft too, looks like two u-joints back to back with a centering ball joint between them.

  • @user-jp7rk1uf2n
    @user-jp7rk1uf2n9 ай бұрын

    I got 1,662,000 before I overhauled my last 3406. When I did I got a Cat remanufactured head. I sold it at 2 million.

  • @markchodroff250
    @markchodroff25022 күн бұрын

    This good information! But where is the fix ? or do we just use another engine??

  • @erickguadalupe5085
    @erickguadalupe50853 жыл бұрын

    Good info. Are the c10 any good?

  • @peteengard9966
    @peteengard99663 жыл бұрын

    The rocker shaft wear is a bigger problem in engine brake engines. Construction and gen set engines don't show that much wear.

  • @reggaeriderr
    @reggaeriderr Жыл бұрын

    Good information.. Im a 60 Series guy 😁

  • @rhythmandacoustics
    @rhythmandacoustics4 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video. Just a regular question. How much carbon deposits are on the valves on those huge engines? Does carbon cleaning additives actually work?

  • @fastinradfordable

    @fastinradfordable

    4 жыл бұрын

    Diesel injection happens in the cylinder. So the intake may collect carbon on the valves. Additives have no way of reaching this area

  • @mikeleo7189
    @mikeleo71893 жыл бұрын

    Do you like the minus 3 spacers if they get you the protrusion you want vs the shims ?

  • @morgansword
    @morgansword4 жыл бұрын

    I too have had that liner problem an it got expensive to fix... I couldn't at the time and had the spare parts truck powered by cummins and it was a low miles till accident made it parts. I kinda stayed away from cat because of the repair costs and my own lack of knowledge to fix myself. I saw my head gasket what it looked like and they told me a price to fix..... I ask them how much they would give me for it and we decided they should own it. I missed the torque right away

  • @fastinradfordable

    @fastinradfordable

    4 жыл бұрын

    If the shop wants to buy your ride. Always. Be. Skeptical.

  • @TuffBurnOutTeam
    @TuffBurnOutTeam3 жыл бұрын

    Great video 📹 Thank you for Sharing the faults with these engines Australia 🌏

  • @Mopars_41
    @Mopars_414 жыл бұрын

    I know 60 series Detroit's, and ISX Cummins engines had liner dropping issues. I saw it more common on the Detroit's than the Cummins though.

  • @jamesmcfayden9778

    @jamesmcfayden9778

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are not lieing about the Detroit. Had it happen to me twice when I had a Detroit series 60.

  • @westernflyer2
    @westernflyer24 жыл бұрын

    Never had any of those problems with my 3406E... had oil pan leak cam timing gear broke 3 times in 1.2 million miles, and injector cup o-rings failed 3 times. But all in all I wouldn't have wanted anything else, if you ain't got a CAT you just ain't truckin!

  • @dulian08
    @dulian084 жыл бұрын

    Solution 3 - head gasket maker by permatex it’s a copper spray Solution 2 get acer rockers and don’t run your overheads so tight Solution 1 get fire rings machined to the head .. Most machine shops do it.. Your welcome !!

  • @chevy36ful

    @chevy36ful

    4 жыл бұрын

    The fire ring is machined into the head and the block so it won't work on a C15 CAT

  • @colonelreb1014
    @colonelreb10142 жыл бұрын

    Worked for Cat Reman almost 20 years now. You know your shit buddy

  • @sjwalker5696
    @sjwalker56963 жыл бұрын

    I am really glad I sold my truck

  • @porkchop359
    @porkchop3593 жыл бұрын

    I drive a trusty ole 96 Pete with the 3406E block set at 600 h.p. a sweet baby !!!!

  • @arthanza112
    @arthanza1124 жыл бұрын

    Also that happen to a friend of mine where the bolt broke ind fell in the engine. $14,000 Rebuild.

  • @MrBigR928

    @MrBigR928

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ouch😭

  • @RS-cb7nm
    @RS-cb7nm2 жыл бұрын

    Cat has a fix for the spacer plate oil leak, it comes in the head gasket set now. Had mine fixed.

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