The 2S7 Pion Gun - heavy artillery hurting both sides

The Soviet self-propelled 2S7 is known as the most powerful howitzer in the world. The Russians are getting a taste of their own medicine in the Ukrainian conflict.
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  • @codfusilli5879
    @codfusilli5879 Жыл бұрын

    US and NATO had the M110A2 203mm SPG that were recently retired from service but still very powerful and effective weapons! They should all give it to the Ukranians and its entire stock of ammunition!

  • @marksnyder8189

    @marksnyder8189

    Жыл бұрын

    I am not sure they have much stock. There was a plan to give them to Taiwan as coastal artillery. I don't know that the plan was ever put in action. Moving a 203mm SPG is not easy. You see the Soviet makes in the video As for ammo, I think stocks of M110 shells would be low. Not impossible to replace but it would take time. The 2S7 is a fat Target for both sides. I see that as one of the reasons the US retired the M110.

  • @arandomchannel4413

    @arandomchannel4413

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​@@marksnyder8189 yeah more feasible for taiwan since they are small country. What ukraine needs is a fast mobile artillery

  • @FairladyS130

    @FairladyS130

    Жыл бұрын

    @@arandomchannel4413 What Ukraine needs is heavy artillery not what the US thinks it needs.

  • @arandomchannel4413

    @arandomchannel4413

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FairladyS130 aren't himars heavy artillery?

  • @FairladyS130

    @FairladyS130

    Жыл бұрын

    @@arandomchannel4413 Not compared with these babies. They are very accurate, that is their advantage.

  • @Blakelikesfood
    @Blakelikesfood Жыл бұрын

    Lol, they've been saying Russia has been running low for 6+ months.

  • @andrewc0128

    @andrewc0128

    Жыл бұрын

    Got any links to production numbers?

  • @Alex462047

    @Alex462047

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrewc0128 Have you?

  • @andrewc0128

    @andrewc0128

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Alex462047 No, I don't have a link to how much ammo Russia has so that is why I keep asking in these videos. We can find out pretty easily what Ukraine has and what it has acquired, but everyone laughing at the "Russia is running low on ammo" comments seem to know just how much ammo Russia has. So I am asking many of them to back up their humor with links to production numbers but all they do is give me the runaround. Russia doesn't seem to be blasting as much artillery and rockets as when this SMO 1st started, so I wonder if it is lack of ammo, worn out weaponry, destroyed weaponry, so many dead Russians a combination of all of these or something else. I'm giving up hope so I'll ask you, do you have any links to Russian artillery production numbers?

  • @Alex462047

    @Alex462047

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrewc0128 No, I don't, and you won't get them, because that information is tantamount to a state secret in Russia. For six months we've heard that Russia is "running out of ammunition". The Allied forces haven't taken Kharkov, Kherson, Zaporozhiye and other major cities by being low on ammunition. That's illogical. Also, there is a report allegedly leaked from the Ukrainian Stavka revealing that the UAF have lost around 192,000 men and are at less than 43% battle effectiveness. Anecdotal reports indicate the overwhelming nature of Russian artillery barrages, again, from the Ukrainians themselves. That doesn't happen with ammunition running out. This is war. You are not going to get neat little figures of 2+2=4 to provide you with a case you could take to court. Conflicts are foggy affairs, information is vague or obscured, the eyewitness of one man may differ significantly from that of his neighbour a few metres away. If you wish to, you take incomplete information and deduce certain things from it.

  • @andrewc0128

    @andrewc0128

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Alex462047 State secrets huh? You telling me that information isn't available for someone with a bit of common sense and a calculator? Anyway, I seem to remember Russians made it into Kiev fairly quickly, but they aren't there now. So, I kinda wonder why. There are quite a few plausible reasons, ran out of supplies, supplies getting bombed with Himars or Excalibur rounds, getting annihilated, equipment failure, damaged equipment that we can see tons of videos of, and doesn't seem to be getting replaced at any perceivable rate. Russia also (1) doesn't seem to be shooting as much artillery as in the beginning of the SMO. I think other than the 50,000 or so killed already, (That Russia doesn't seem to want to collect from the refrigerated railcars) most of the soldiers are tired of getting slaughtered and of slaughtering their neighbors under false pretenses. I think that is likely because Ukrainians are using Western supplied weapons and technology to hit the supply depots.

  • @phil20_20
    @phil20_20 Жыл бұрын

    We had the 175mm and the 8", or 203mm field artillary in Vietnam. Ordnance developed a tactical nuke for 155mm, "negating" the need for that larger conventional shells. That was Cold War doctrine, and we now have the ability to do more damage with coordinated firing, plus we have enhanced ranged munitions, so we don't need the larger calibers in the field.

  • @danieparriott265

    @danieparriott265

    Жыл бұрын

    Ummm ... we had a max yield of 40KT with the 203mm conventional nukes .... there is no possible way that any conventional artillery formation in the world is going to drop 40KT on one spot at one time. And that's just ONE round.

  • @hibco3000

    @hibco3000

    Жыл бұрын

    Plus an air force that drops alot of bombs

  • @hibco3000

    @hibco3000

    Жыл бұрын

    Amd theyvwere a logi logistical nightmare might as well stick with the 155

  • @dhruvsingh7215

    @dhruvsingh7215

    5 ай бұрын

    And it's heavy

  • @brianmead7556

    @brianmead7556

    Ай бұрын

    Where super heavy guns like this come in our specialized fire missions especially for example, knocking out enemy artillery while safely Out of response range.

  • @biddyboy1570
    @biddyboy1570 Жыл бұрын

    I'm no artillery man but that round rattling about at 1:33 got me nervous.

  • @marksnyder8189

    @marksnyder8189

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol. In 1985 I was crewing an M198 howitzer, the predecessor to the M777. The inexperienced guy with the rammer didn't get the round to seat right I was holding the shell cradle at the assistant Gunner's position. In horror I watched the shell slowly slide out and plop to the ground and inch or two from the toes of my boots. I was starting straight down on it. Fortunately, we used propellent bags instead of a one-piece system, so I was safe. But I really didn't like testing it that way, lol.

  • @biddyboy1570

    @biddyboy1570

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marksnyder8189 if someone (an idiot for this example) dropped a shell (say 155mm) nose first from waist hight, would it go bang?

  • @honkhonk8009

    @honkhonk8009

    Жыл бұрын

    @@biddyboy1570 No. Theres multiple safety mechanisms in em

  • @billwhoever2830

    @billwhoever2830

    Жыл бұрын

    @@biddyboy1570 the fuse waits for the projectile to be fired even much smaller-cheaper 30mm-40mm grenades have safety mechanisms and they do not detonate unless they reach some distance after being fired, this is the arming distance, after that the projectile is ready to go. artillery fuses probably "arm" a few seconds after firing. There are also proximity fuses that dont arm on impact, they arm a few meters above the ground for maximum effect of the explosion. These use radio frequencies (just like radar) to determine the range from the ground with high accuracy.

  • @kylelandor7825

    @kylelandor7825

    Жыл бұрын

    @@biddyboy1570 lol nobody would want to get close to them if they didnt have some serious safety mechanism .......

  • @wernertognetti5956
    @wernertognetti5956 Жыл бұрын

    A little but important detail: The artillery complex was adopted not in the Russian, but in the Soviet army in 1975. There was no Russia then.

  • @forgedbyironandfire4150

    @forgedbyironandfire4150

    Жыл бұрын

    All the decision makers and high command in the soviet military were still russian and everything was russian controlled

  • @xpusostomos

    @xpusostomos

    Жыл бұрын

    There was a Russia

  • @stevewhite3424

    @stevewhite3424

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually Russia was a member state of the USSR. They just happened to be the biggest. :)

  • @wernertognetti5956

    @wernertognetti5956

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stevewhite3424 That's true. A Russian army did not exist. Like Ukraine Russia was a so called socialist soviet member of USSR. The SU-army command was never under control of any SU-member state.

  • @Snow-Journal

    @Snow-Journal

    Жыл бұрын

    The Russians are Soviets again, better dead then red

  • @nick_vash
    @nick_vash Жыл бұрын

    Several months ago such shells were fired by russians into Kharkiv. I live ten kilometres away from the place where the shells were landed but the sound and the shockwave of the blast was so powerful.... it was as loud as 'Iskander' rocket 🚀

  • @marksnyder8189

    @marksnyder8189

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope you and your family are safe

  • @nick_vash

    @nick_vash

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marksnyder8189 Thanks! But every night (tonight isn't exception) we're shelled by russians. They don't use 'Iskander' and 'Kalibr' rockets any more instead of them they modified C-300 surface-to-air systems and now they use them as surface-to-surface. And I can tell you the precision of such rockets are very bad it could divert from a target several hundred meters. Another problem is MLRS systems as 'smerch' and 'uragan' it's scarry....

  • @simplexj4298

    @simplexj4298

    Жыл бұрын

    Stay strong! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

  • @TheMadhurajayaweera

    @TheMadhurajayaweera

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nick_vash so you were 10km away from the blast zone but can still tell the weapon model and where it landed by listening to the shockwave. Lol

  • @nick_vash

    @nick_vash

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheMadhurajayaweera Are you nuts? After the shelling every time from a police report you can know what kind of weapon was used by russ' Don't be a 🤡

  • @om6035
    @om6035 Жыл бұрын

    Soviet era artillery are top on the battlefield not because of their precision but because of their fire power and ease of use and they dont require maintenance as ukrainian officials confirmed. The howizter from germany was said to be fancy but on the battlefield it breaks down as said by ukrainians

  • @user-bl4oq7fd8d

    @user-bl4oq7fd8d

    Жыл бұрын

    It doesn't break down, it just wears out... Apparently several houndred shots are fired per day and sometimes they try pushing the firing distance over the specifications (meaning bigger explosions in the barrel than intended). They just already got some spear parts delivered but they need more, quicker than expected. So they want to build the factory for that in Poland next to the Ukrainan border.

  • @om6035

    @om6035

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-bl4oq7fd8d so your saying if lets say the artillery is designed to shoot at a maximum range of lets say 40km and they overstretched that ranch to 55 or 60km the barrel damages?

  • @user-bl4oq7fd8d

    @user-bl4oq7fd8d

    Жыл бұрын

    @@om6035 yup, but I don't think they can push it that far... but if it's made for 40 km and they fire it to 45 km, they need to load in more explosive-propellent charges

  • @norbertblackrain2379
    @norbertblackrain2379 Жыл бұрын

    Like during the old days in my army times as a gunner of a M110 203mm NATO gun.

  • @rogerexwood6608

    @rogerexwood6608

    Жыл бұрын

    Shame there don’t seem to be any of those left gathering dust in a warehouse somewhere. Definitely could be put to good use in the Kherson offensive.

  • @arts6821

    @arts6821

    Жыл бұрын

    I’d like to ask how was your experience? Did you ever been deployed with the M110?

  • @norbertblackrain2379

    @norbertblackrain2379

    Жыл бұрын

    @@arts6821 Several weeks Grafenwöhr but luckily for me no war.

  • @Gnosis639

    @Gnosis639

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rogerexwood6608 there is plenty of those gathering dust in warehouses. I wonder why they don't send them to Ukraine since it's been retired from service.

  • @MXB2001
    @MXB2001 Жыл бұрын

    Same calibre as a Heavy Cruiser's main guns. Only Battleship guns are larger. Super heavy arty this is.

  • @albertthomas7295

    @albertthomas7295

    Жыл бұрын

    During my time in the jungle, NVA had 220 MM Arty inside the DMZ and were able to score a direct hit upon a reinforced CP at Dong Ha. I thought our 175 MM's were awesome and now I see them thru out Oklahoma as monuments to a previous era.

  • @spicn00
    @spicn00 Жыл бұрын

    Also worth noting is they made a nuclear warhead shell to be fired from the Pion artillery pice during the cold war. Not sure if Russia still have any in stock or is willing to use it.

  • @Shokkwavez

    @Shokkwavez

    Жыл бұрын

    Aren't those designed to be similar yield to the non-nuclear warhead? An American said you could fire them side by side and you would not be able to tell which one was which.

  • @marksnyder8189

    @marksnyder8189

    Жыл бұрын

    The US had such things too. We even had the "Atomic Annie" howitzer, specifically designed to fire tactical nukes. Surely some of these things exist. They are a less overwhelming step into a nuclear war. I don't know if Putin would use them. It would go badly for him if he did.

  • @davidmichaels8934
    @davidmichaels8934 Жыл бұрын

    Nowhere near the big gun that my Dad took to Normandy in 1944! @ 9.2 inches, 239 mm it was the largest calibre field gun in the Royal Artillery, and could shift the most obstinate German resistance!

  • @byloyuripka9624

    @byloyuripka9624

    Жыл бұрын

    most annoying comment from the daddys boy

  • @dannywaller4397

    @dannywaller4397

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@byloyuripka9624your gay

  • @user-xy2gf5kb3h
    @user-xy2gf5kb3h Жыл бұрын

    This is not a russian gun! This is a soviet gun! This make a difference...

  • @briant5685

    @briant5685

    Жыл бұрын

    it is a russian made artillery infact 99.5%of all soviet weapons were russian made

  • @AndrD1406

    @AndrD1406

    Жыл бұрын

    @@briant5685 all of heavy cruisers and carriers were made in Ukraine. Satan rockets were. And best tanks were made in Kharkiv as well

  • @briant5685

    @briant5685

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AndrD1406 they were made in soviet Ukraine by Russian designers and engineers just like su-25 were made in different state but by Russian designers and engineers

  • @AndrD1406

    @AndrD1406

    Жыл бұрын

    @@briant5685 Do you know that MiG means Mikoyan-Gurevich? Mikoyan is an Armenian surname, Gurevich Belarusian. What's then?

  • @robelrobu917
    @robelrobu917 Жыл бұрын

    "some reports suggest" lol 🤣

  • @JA-pn4ji
    @JA-pn4ji Жыл бұрын

    The fire rate is a crucial indicator of stock availability and ease of resupply. It is hard to judge the fire rate on one specific artillery weapon, but the current Russian fire rate would indicate they have no stocks or resupply problems across the class of artillery and rocket weaponry.

  • @marksnyder8189

    @marksnyder8189

    Жыл бұрын

    I think HIMARS is hitting their resupply pretty hard right now.

  • @tavish4699

    @tavish4699

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marksnyder8189 i doubt that yes there is a few videos of it but to be honnest that doesnt mean much out of one sucessfull hit you can make 10 if oyu film it form a different angle ,there is no way to veriefy it

  • @quasii7

    @quasii7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tavish4699 There is a way to verify, that's what OSINT experts do.

  • @AHalz

    @AHalz

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s being reported that Russian artillery is still pounding the daylights of Ukrainians in the East. I think it’s a bit too optimistic to say their are running low

  • @terrynewsome6698

    @terrynewsome6698

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tavish4699 you do know we confirm this with satellite imagery right.

  • @FlyWithMe_666
    @FlyWithMe_666 Жыл бұрын

    If Russia’s ammo supply is running low - where does Ukraine source its non-western artillery ammo? Do they have their own ammo factories or sourced from other countries?

  • @warhead_beast7661

    @warhead_beast7661

    Жыл бұрын

    They got ammo from Belarus per example

  • @yespeace2000

    @yespeace2000

    Жыл бұрын

    Other countries' soviet era stock, including Serbia (LOL). Those guys..... 🤣

  • @justmr9553

    @justmr9553

    Жыл бұрын

    He said units of the latest howitzer was running low, not the ammo. If you want to see a really good video on artillery available to both sides check out channel Perun. He does 1 video a week, artillery was about 3 weeks ago

  • @critterjon4061

    @critterjon4061

    Жыл бұрын

    They’re getting shells from other former Soviet block counties a to hold them over as they begin the process of phasing the guns out of service

  • @morriswilburn9858

    @morriswilburn9858

    Жыл бұрын

    Another reason for the transition to Western weapons.

  • @bigpimpen045
    @bigpimpen045 Жыл бұрын

    It's an absolute unit beautiful 😍

  • @renacampos5837
    @renacampos5837 Жыл бұрын

    this weapon is incredible.

  • @Romeroifly

    @Romeroifly

    Жыл бұрын

    why?

  • @renacampos5837

    @renacampos5837

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Romeroifly the size alone is incredible, and the size of those shells is just amazing, when go back in time and see how far we have come when it becomes to weapons, i can help to be amazed by it.

  • @distrologic2925

    @distrologic2925

    Жыл бұрын

    @@renacampos5837 Size isn't everything. It seems to be very inaccurate

  • @renacampos5837

    @renacampos5837

    Жыл бұрын

    @@distrologic2925 I agree but still very impressive

  • @charlesrichardson8635
    @charlesrichardson8635 Жыл бұрын

    What's running low? ammo (I imagine they don't keep near as much 203 mm around) or 2S7's? I imagine any battery of those beasts are high priority targets for the HIMARS!

  • @brianmead7556

    @brianmead7556

    Ай бұрын

    They also target HIMARS.

  • @pimpompoom93726

    @pimpompoom93726

    25 күн бұрын

    HIMARS are junk, Russian EW groups disable the guidance of most rockets.

  • @hibco3000
    @hibco3000 Жыл бұрын

    I love the 2s7 😍

  • @danielgreen3715
    @danielgreen3715 Жыл бұрын

    Dont count on Ivan running low on Arty !/& Rounds

  • @KororaPenguin
    @KororaPenguin2 ай бұрын

    Un canon qui s'appèle un «Pion». Insérez ici un jeu de mots sur Xiangqi ou Janggi. ("A cannon that's called a 'Pawn'. Insert Xiangqi/Janggi pun here.")

  • @aurathedraak7909
    @aurathedraak7909 Жыл бұрын

    Looks like a modern flack 88, at an angle

  • @viktor_1939_
    @viktor_1939_ Жыл бұрын

    Pion means - Peony flower.

  • @hectorrodriguez2686
    @hectorrodriguez2686 Жыл бұрын

    You have to look at the whole picture. These guns need to be transported, maintained, supplied with a different and heavier size of munition. If you are doing expeditionary war fare you will most likely never bring these along. But maybe as siege guns.

  • @marksnyder8189

    @marksnyder8189

    Жыл бұрын

    That is exactly correct. Large guns are only a feature of static warfare because they are hard to move. And resupply. I was reading about the Obusier 520 not long ago. They were the largest guns ever built by the French. At 520 mm, they were among the largest ever built by anyone. In 1916, these two giant guns were made, seeing action I think in 1917. In 1918, a shell cooked off in the breech of one of the guns, killing the crew. The other 520 was put away in a shed and forgotten. Fast forward to World War 2. The Germans we're going through French military stocks after the French surrendered in 1940. They found the surviving Obusier 520. No one loves big Arty like a German (every modern gun bigger than the 520 was German) When the Germans invaded the USSR in 1941, they moved rapidly, but by 1942 they came to besiege Sevastopol in Crimea. They dragged the big guns, including the French 520, across Europe to pummel the Soviet fort. After firing a few rounds, a shell cooked off in the breech, killing most of the crew. Big guns require lots of people and resources. The bigger you go, the more you put into it, for diminishing returns. Heavy guns are slow, their ammo is cumbersome, and the gains in destructive power are minimal. Rocket artillery and newer 155 ammunition render these ponderous relics just about obsolete. We are seeing them because Ukraine is defending near their depots, and Russia is attacking just across the border.

  • @brianmead7556

    @brianmead7556

    Ай бұрын

    You never have many of these guns, and the purpose of them is priority, specific fire missions, such as destroying a command post or a bunker or enemy batteries or enemy dumps or enemies staging. You don’t just shell away with these you pick a specific target and give it a volley.

  • @AtheistOrphan
    @AtheistOrphan Жыл бұрын

    I remember a documentary about an American guy who’s got one of these and drives it around his estate.

  • @willw8011

    @willw8011

    Жыл бұрын

    The US Army used to have M110 8 inch (aka 203mm) guns. The US and UK used a few of those in the 91 gulf war, then retired those.

  • @jeffjefferson2676
    @jeffjefferson2676 Жыл бұрын

    It would be cool to see if they bring some sort of guided munitions for these guns. There is a lot of power in each round. If you can hit a car size target each time. It would be real good destruction. Greetings, Jeff

  • @dannybrasco7928
    @dannybrasco79288 ай бұрын

    Final comment in last second of the video was Moscow is running low on Ammo. Now how does that sound today? Fake?😊

  • @hakijabesic7263
    @hakijabesic7263 Жыл бұрын

    Dont wory they have ammo

  • @williammurray1341
    @williammurray1341 Жыл бұрын

    God is on the side with the best artillery - Napoleon

  • @Necromancer_88

    @Necromancer_88

    Жыл бұрын

    B52 hold my beer

  • @John-hu9qg
    @John-hu9qg Жыл бұрын

    Russia has those heavy 8" guns also, the big difference being that they have newer, upgraded variants, they possess nuclear and chemical rounds, and can manufacture new HE rounds if supply's are running low, Russia can also reline and refurbish the barrels once wear is detected, unlike these in Ukrainian service, which are close to the end of barrel service life as well as being out of 203mm ammunition alongside the 152mm that is also unavailable in the West.

  • @terrynewsome6698

    @terrynewsome6698

    Жыл бұрын

    Bulgaria manufacture 152mm and Poland has factories to repair the guns

  • @John-hu9qg

    @John-hu9qg

    Жыл бұрын

    @@terrynewsome6698 Russia is the only manufacturer of the 152mm artillery round that can produce the volume required for a conflict of this scale, the only other two manufacturers are Serbia and Bulgaria who have both refused to supply ammunition. Poland can repair main battle tanks, but I doubt if they can refurbish 203mm and 152mm barrels, as they have been withdrawn from Polish service with some time.

  • @marksnyder8189

    @marksnyder8189

    Жыл бұрын

    @@John-hu9qg Well, we'll just have keep sending 155s over, especially since they outrange 152s

  • @John-hu9qg

    @John-hu9qg

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marksnyder8189 they don't, (forget Excalibir rounds @ $70k a pop....too expensive and too few to make any difference) the 152mm base bleed and the 155mm base bleed round have similar performance, any slight advantage in the newer 155mm artillery pieces is totally overwhelmed by sheer numbers of Russian self propelled and towed 152mm artillery pieces. Hence why the M-777 lost every engagement with Russian artillery, especially self propelled.

  • @marksnyder8189

    @marksnyder8189

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a very nice fairy tale you're writing. If you want a realistic "happily ever after", remember Ukraine is the winner. And outranging the other guy almost always wins artillery duels.

  • @narharjoshi7150
    @narharjoshi7150 Жыл бұрын

    For how long they are going to repeat " stocks are running low")))

  • @andrewc0128

    @andrewc0128

    Жыл бұрын

    Until you provide a link that shows current production numbers exceeding ammo use.

  • @originalfightfan5464
    @originalfightfan5464 Жыл бұрын

    Those soldier operated that huge gun most like their eardrum goin to broked..

  • @hibahprice6887
    @hibahprice6887 Жыл бұрын

    Projectile weight 97-113 kg

  • @canon5dmk336
    @canon5dmk336 Жыл бұрын

    La chaîne américaine CBS a dépublié un reportage largement partagé dans lequel un militant approvisionnant le pays en équipement non létal avait déclaré que seulement 30% des armes occidentales rejoignaient leur destination sur la ligne de front.

  • @NoWoke6981

    @NoWoke6981

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly because the 70% is going to the black market. I can see a lot of people don't know how corrupt the ukrainians are.. I'm from one of the EU neighbor country and i know them very well long time unfortunately! 🤬

  • @shabbeerfarook
    @shabbeerfarook Жыл бұрын

    Whats the thing that pushes the shell in to the barrel.. that looks like a snake

  • @leneanderthalien

    @leneanderthalien

    Жыл бұрын

    track like system

  • @dennisyoung4631

    @dennisyoung4631

    Жыл бұрын

    Rammer/Ramming mechanism? It needs to push the shell up and in until the shell’s driving bands touch the rifling….

  • @ulfpe
    @ulfpe Жыл бұрын

    Mordern war will deplete ammunition faster then it can be produced, so when you reach the bottom of the stock its all about capacity to produce and transport

  • @leneanderthalien

    @leneanderthalien

    Жыл бұрын

    not realy: modern artillery need far less ammo to neutralize a target as older systems because the accuracy is much better

  • @stevewhite3424

    @stevewhite3424

    Жыл бұрын

    Modern war is all about air power. What is going on in Ukraine is an anomaly as there is no way nato would ever lead off any kind Of action with artillery. Reference the 1st gulf war. If you go do a little research on the number of combat aircraft and helicopters available to nato in Europe at this time the numbers are simply staggering. No fixed or someone fixed Material material such as artillery, rocket launchers, et cetera have a chance of survival.

  • @JA-pn4ji

    @JA-pn4ji

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stevewhite3424 Terrain, terrain, terrain. What is the difference in terrain between Ukraine and Iraq? Air power would certainly be effective in the summer months in Ukraine but that has to be tempered by both the vastness of Ukrainian territory and the intensity and sophistication of radar and air defenses. In winter with cloud cover and weather conditions air power, which the germans possessed in WW2, would have little effect.

  • @stevewhite3424

    @stevewhite3424

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JA-pn4ji Totally not true but not worth wasting time arguing about it. And referencing German air power in World War II as compared to Allied air power today is like referencing German air power in World War II compared to air power as it stood in 1914. Go do some quick reading on publicly available information regarding nato and the US ECM capabilities and the ability of the West to perform air operations in less than perfect weather conditions. Some keywords would be EF-18, anti radiation munitions, JSTARS, remote radar satellites, F-35 ECM capabilities, Wild Weasels, ground targeting capabilities of modern aesa radars,etc.

  • @tavish4699

    @tavish4699

    Жыл бұрын

    before russia will run out of ammunition the ukrainians will....most of their artillery is and will allways be home made

  • @ericcheng3143
    @ericcheng3143 Жыл бұрын

    That is a big gun. And an easy target if i am asked. Once they got their coordinates it is over.

  • @matthewwagner47
    @matthewwagner47 Жыл бұрын

    Never seen this wapon out in the open like this. Obvously this is a training video.

  • @mostlymessingabout
    @mostlymessingabout Жыл бұрын

    It's not a Russian gun. It's Soviet...

  • @drefhill

    @drefhill

    Жыл бұрын

    i'm sure you're the kind of guy who call USA, america.

  • @mostlymessingabout

    @mostlymessingabout

    Жыл бұрын

    @@drefhill no. USA is only 1 of 35 countries in the Americas continent.

  • @IberianCraftsman
    @IberianCraftsman Жыл бұрын

    M65 Atomic Cannon was even bigger

  • @30noogard
    @30noogard Жыл бұрын

    talk about "taste your own medicine"

  • @mattyallen3396
    @mattyallen3396 Жыл бұрын

    Are sending Ukraine artillery radar?

  • @nikitachernobaev1323
    @nikitachernobaev1323 Жыл бұрын

    It’s not a rusian gun, it’s a Soviet gun, rusian =! Soviet, remember this

  • @boris335
    @boris335Ай бұрын

    Stocks have still to run out

  • @linuxuberuser
    @linuxuberuser Жыл бұрын

    Does it really fire 4 giant shells every shot? - I question that...

  • @definitelyfrank9341

    @definitelyfrank9341

    11 ай бұрын

    They didn't day that.

  • @extreme596
    @extreme596 Жыл бұрын

    Just when will this war end???????

  • @WSY01
    @WSY01 Жыл бұрын

    Both have it, but Russia has much more.

  • @sirkokemter7904
    @sirkokemter7904 Жыл бұрын

    rocket-guided round? are you serious?

  • @acaciolacita3671
    @acaciolacita3671 Жыл бұрын

    why they losing terretory

  • @martinwashington3152
    @martinwashington3152 Жыл бұрын

    blimey while serving it was always taught, save, conserve, less is more and disciplined when not following such, now we are flooding a country with these parts we are always taught to be almost precious being just fired off ten to the dozen from barely trained and experienced troops..

  • @orangssss266
    @orangssss266 Жыл бұрын

    Modern the great gustav lol

  • @azmalkhan01
    @azmalkhan01 Жыл бұрын

    We keep hearing Russia is running low in ammunition but also keep hearing Russia is firing thousands of rounds a day

  • @123garyg
    @123garyg Жыл бұрын

    The best timing to strike on russia is when they are moving as convoy... ukrainian should find ways to determine time and place where the convoy pass

  • @ProjectHyena

    @ProjectHyena

    Жыл бұрын

    You mean strike on Russian territory...am confused here.

  • @vargas3573
    @vargas35737 ай бұрын

    Can this gun kill me with one shell directly hit?

  • @lastelinl8724
    @lastelinl872410 ай бұрын

    "...the trouble is both sides have it.." LOL. It is Soviet/Russian howitzer, the only reason Ukrainians do have some of them, is because they got them after separation. The same as they got almost all weapons and equipment they posses.

  • @Whatisthisstupidfinghandle
    @Whatisthisstupidfinghandle Жыл бұрын

    Pion means Peony (flower) in English

  • @adissabovic
    @adissabovic Жыл бұрын

    1:35 Moscow stocks are running low? And Kiev stocks are not?

  • @andrewc0128

    @andrewc0128

    Жыл бұрын

    The US is supplying Ukraine with plenty of 155mm. Not sure about the stocks of rounds in this caliber round though.

  • @adissabovic

    @adissabovic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrewc0128 Heard of one 180.000 155mm round tranche and second one of 120.000. Also heard of Russkies firing between 450.000 and 600.000 rounds daily (may, heavy fighting, all caliber though), now 60.000-80.000 daily. Find it hard to believe that Russians are running out of ammo and Ukrainians are not. Just saying.

  • @andrewc0128

    @andrewc0128

    Жыл бұрын

    @@adissabovic Russians might be firing 600,000 bullets a day, but I don't think artillery rounds are very high at all. It would be hard for Russia to match the capacity of all of the countries combined to fight against them.

  • @adissabovic

    @adissabovic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrewc0128 One word: nukes.

  • @willw8011
    @willw8011 Жыл бұрын

    The 203mm is 8 inches in freedom units. The USA used to have some of these 8 inch guns. Interestingly, the Russians also use a 152mm (6 inches).

  • @leneanderthalien

    @leneanderthalien

    Жыл бұрын

    7,992 inches and 5.984 inches ...IMPERIAL is a obsolete british empire mesurement system and not a "freedom unit"...Only some retrograde countries like the USA and some banana states did use it, even the brits did not use it today, except for road speed (miles per hour)...In opposition, Nautical miles are not Imperial and are integrated in Metric...

  • @andrewc0128

    @andrewc0128

    Жыл бұрын

    @@leneanderthalien You mad?

  • @keitelgaston5695
    @keitelgaston5695 Жыл бұрын

    WTF do you mean Hurting Both Sides?????

  • @armandos5444
    @armandos5444 Жыл бұрын

    На пионе установлены корабельные орудия

  • @fishpawnz838
    @fishpawnz838 Жыл бұрын

    send more of these

  • @NaturalLanguageLearning

    @NaturalLanguageLearning

    Жыл бұрын

    from where?

  • @fishpawnz838

    @fishpawnz838

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NaturalLanguageLearning idk, send similar models then

  • @allent.g560

    @allent.g560

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fishpawnz838 from who? to who?

  • @fishpawnz838

    @fishpawnz838

    Жыл бұрын

    @@allent.g560 Cesar Systems from France, PZH from germany, Polish Krabs, things like this

  • @fishpawnz838

    @fishpawnz838

    Жыл бұрын

    @@allent.g560 long range/mid range artillery has been effective

  • @sheikbombalot5781
    @sheikbombalot57819 ай бұрын

    Another little but important detail: Russia has many more of them. And with total air superiority, Ukraine has to be very careful unless they want to lose them all ;)

  • @how2366
    @how2366 Жыл бұрын

    Why our teacher taught us to be a peace maker no matter what???🙄😒

  • @IceFloe.
    @IceFloe. Жыл бұрын

    Doesn't seem precise enough.

  • @Ay_anika
    @Ay_anika Жыл бұрын

    Some wise man stop this war . Both are loosing and will loose forever.

  • @user-se1ro4sy4z
    @user-se1ro4sy4z Жыл бұрын

    Moscow stocks "have been running low" for the last 5 monthes

  • @pocaujmniewdupepocaujmniew5128
    @pocaujmniewdupepocaujmniew51283 ай бұрын

    Range 50km!

  • @ivan200804
    @ivan200804 Жыл бұрын

    Bro, they all use Soviet made and designed stuff. Ukraine or Russia are just living off the legacy.

  • @dontran391
    @dontran391 Жыл бұрын

    Ukrainian arsenal inventory as of today of August 7, 2022 consist of the following: 1) Former USSR equipment 2) captured Russian equipment 3) NATO supplied equipment Coming soon in the future: Ukraine activates a Yu-Gi-Oh Polymerization card to fusion all 3 of those equipments above to produce "Ukraine's Equipment"

  • @yogeshghadigaonkar5543
    @yogeshghadigaonkar5543 Жыл бұрын

    Moscow is running " low on ammo " since the start of the SMO .....but what about Ukranian Pions ...D 20's ....D 30's ...and the latest NATO howz and MLRS's ......Why isn't Kiev storming the gates of Moscow yet ....or Where is the Million Man Strong Counteroffensive for Kherson ....❓

  • @morganholsomback4851

    @morganholsomback4851

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello tankie

  • @caink9142
    @caink9142 Жыл бұрын

    Keep firing himars to reduce russian stock to nill

  • @cheebacheeo5876
    @cheebacheeo5876 Жыл бұрын

    🇺🇦 SLAVA UKRAINI! 🇺🇦

  • @luciusmacdonald8546
    @luciusmacdonald8546 Жыл бұрын

    The 2S7 is not what Russia should be worrying about😂🤡

  • @timothyortiz2222
    @timothyortiz2222 Жыл бұрын

    Rusky, roasted road kill.

  • @liuxiangcheng6458
    @liuxiangcheng6458 Жыл бұрын

    There is a Soviet artillery , not Russian

  • @frankrothe7023
    @frankrothe7023 Жыл бұрын

    Sad thing, when technological advance moves faster then the advance of society. The KGB-dictatorship over Russia is a nightmare. 😒

  • @jamesewanchook2276
    @jamesewanchook2276 Жыл бұрын

    Democracies: Send Ukrainians everything they need pronto; let them put an end to Putin's folly. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦🇨🇦!!

  • @gumelini1

    @gumelini1

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol they are sending but it's not working because as of this day Russia controls 130 000 square kilometers of Ukrainian territory

  • @sharwama992

    @sharwama992

    Жыл бұрын

    🤡

  • @Alex462047

    @Alex462047

    Жыл бұрын

    With what army? They are only 43% battle effective at this point, having lost 192,000 men, give or take, according to the Ukrainian Stavka.

  • @Glen.Danielsen
    @Glen.Danielsen Жыл бұрын

    Both sides have the weapon. But the Ukrainians have God on their side to help them use theirs. That changes things. 🙏🏽 🇺🇦

  • @drefhill

    @drefhill

    Жыл бұрын

    no god doesn't even exist.

  • @tavish4699

    @tavish4699

    Жыл бұрын

    aha tell me , if god is on the side of the ukrianians why did he allow the nazi azov batallion to fight along side them?

  • @Glen.Danielsen

    @Glen.Danielsen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tavish4699 Perhaps because Stalin was worse than Hitler?

  • @bonk9614

    @bonk9614

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Glen.Danielsen both were worse.

  • @Glen.Danielsen

    @Glen.Danielsen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bonk9614 Xièxiè, dòjeh, Bonk. 🇺🇸💛🇹🇼

  • @user-gn9bp3sj8g
    @user-gn9bp3sj8g5 ай бұрын

    Не ссыте, западные "друзья"! ЭТОГО оружия у нас, просто как в 1945-ом!

  • @spiz555s3
    @spiz555s3 Жыл бұрын

    According to Western sources Russia has been running low of ammo for months..... we live in hope but some how I doubt the Russians are running low......

  • @ballerblocks
    @ballerblocks Жыл бұрын

    Russian stocks running low, since the beginning of this war... lolllllllzzzzzzzz 😂

  • @andrewc0128

    @andrewc0128

    Жыл бұрын

    Got any links to production to prove them wrong?

  • @ballerblocks

    @ballerblocks

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrewc0128 yes, military summary youtube channel.

  • @andrewc0128

    @andrewc0128

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ballerblocks Got a link? I mean specifically to show exactly how many they have, or even to production numbers compared with how many Russia expends?

  • @ballerblocks

    @ballerblocks

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrewc0128 no I don't, but do you have one supporting you argument.

  • @andrewc0128

    @andrewc0128

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ballerblocks I didn't make an argument yet. I am just trying to find out why all these people are laughing at the "Russia is running out of ammo" comments because they seem to know something everyone else doesn't. So, if they do, then they should be able to provide a reliable source for their argument and laughing, right? But all I get from them is the runaround. We can find out pretty easily what Ukraine has and what it has acquired. Russia doesn't seem to be blasting as much artillery and rockets as when this SMO 1st started, so I wonder if it is lack of ammo, worn out weaponry, destroyed weaponry, so many dead Russians a combination of all of these or something else. I'm giving up hope though. I think that they just want Russia to have more artillery to bomb Ukraine and force it into submission for whatever reason.

  • @lindanihlanze5769
    @lindanihlanze5769 Жыл бұрын

    Soviet not Russia.

  • @gabrigabriele1650
    @gabrigabriele1650 Жыл бұрын

    lol russian army in 1975 :D dude study ....was soviet union.

  • @rogerclemmons8652
    @rogerclemmons8652 Жыл бұрын

    so cringe how he pours the tea at the start, i died now, tell my family i loved them, tell them i died gloriously watching cringe montage

  • @maxmilernjdmba.9750
    @maxmilernjdmba.9750 Жыл бұрын

    Soviet gun.

  • @conflict_monitor
    @conflict_monitor Жыл бұрын

    ruNniNg LoW

  • @brokendown63
    @brokendown63 Жыл бұрын

    We've all seen the difference in accuracy between the Ukrainians and the Orcs. In the hands of the AFU this is a deadly accurate Artillery piece, in the hands of the Orcs it's an Ammo wasting nuisance. Слава Герою!!!

  • @leneanderthalien

    @leneanderthalien

    Жыл бұрын

    true, the Ukrainians are much better artillerists even with same equipment

  • @freddycool6346

    @freddycool6346

    Жыл бұрын

    Any proof?

  • @sharwama992

    @sharwama992

    Жыл бұрын

    🤡

  • @georgekaradov1274

    @georgekaradov1274

    Жыл бұрын

    Well they are better that is why the Urks are advancing west soooo rapidly...

  • @drefhill

    @drefhill

    Жыл бұрын

    @@georgekaradov1274 they're not advancing rapidly, they dont even advance anymore. They used to advance slowly and it was only because they are so much more and have so much more material.

  • @user-vi4ph1xq4o
    @user-vi4ph1xq4o Жыл бұрын

    it is not Russian gun it is Soviet union gun.

  • @Dark-Mustang
    @Dark-Mustang Жыл бұрын

    North Vietnam got their hands on these for their final offensive against the outgunned South Vietnam. I am glad to see Russians being killed by this cannon.

  • @Alex462047

    @Alex462047

    Жыл бұрын

    You're glad to see Russians being killed? So says the man who has never seen a war fought in his homeland. Beware what you wish for.

  • @techkingdata9338
    @techkingdata9338 Жыл бұрын

    They got it from the same place...I hope Ukraine manufacturers the rounds for this gun if not they could run out. Is it possible that's what Russia is attempting to do soak up Ukraine's military arsenal....also those shells aren't GPS guided both side are crushing the civilians

  • @mrizkic
    @mrizkic Жыл бұрын

    Yeas even moscow gas running low guess what happen?

  • @GigiDuruDuru
    @GigiDuruDuru Жыл бұрын

    Someone obviously had no shame in copying the German WW2 88mm flack gun

  • @GigiDuruDuru

    @GigiDuruDuru

    Жыл бұрын

    @Богдан learn English if you like American websites or use only the Russian ones. Just because it's a different caliber don't mean it's not copied from the 88

  • @willw8011

    @willw8011

    Жыл бұрын

    What? This looks nothing like the 88mm. The Russians most likely copied the 8 inch (aka 203mm) US M110, which was made in 1963. Russians made these 2S7 in 1975. However, putting what is basically an 8 inch naval gun on tank tracks is not really a quantum leap in technological achievement.

  • @KSmithwick1989

    @KSmithwick1989

    Жыл бұрын

    @@willw8011 The Soviet already had an earlier 203 mm SPG. Although agreed it does have some resemblance to similar US artillery. Along the lines of the rammer mechanism.

  • @gumelini1

    @gumelini1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GigiDuruDuru you are comparing two guns which are not even remotely similar.Whats next? The 2s4 Tulypan being a copy of Karl-Gerat?

  • @GigiDuruDuru

    @GigiDuruDuru

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gumelini1 for a non expert in cannons even I can see the resemblances.

  • @spotez9547
    @spotez9547 Жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha running low

  • @andrewc0128

    @andrewc0128

    Жыл бұрын

    Got any links to current production numbers?

  • @distrologic2925
    @distrologic2925 Жыл бұрын

    The way its shaking that must be hella inaccurate..

  • @menofwar1155
    @menofwar1155 Жыл бұрын

    ˝entered russian army in 1975˝, well, you know the good research ˝journalism˝ when you see it...i am amazed i went trough 26 sec of this to know its actual facts value...bye bye!

  • @dantae666
    @dantae666 Жыл бұрын

    Long as Russia has metal it wont run out of stocks. this artillery war is brutal. Ukraine need more long-range weapons

  • @oscaroctavio
    @oscaroctavio Жыл бұрын

    Get them all gentlemen !!! Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @DTczsk1999

    @DTczsk1999

    Жыл бұрын

    Boo! Ukraine is lost! Lol Glory to Russia! 🇷🇺💪🇷🇺💪🇷🇺💪

  • @topworstmedia5413
    @topworstmedia5413Ай бұрын

    Russia is an industrial power house and can make mortar rounds… Ukraine can’t…

  • @jackreacher189
    @jackreacher189 Жыл бұрын

    The strategically important suburb of Donetsk - the well-fortified Peski - is almost completely occupied. Ukrainian fighter Sergei Gnyezdilov admitted that during the last days it was ``hell'' in that settlement, that the Ukrainian artillery was almost completely destroyed, and that the surviving Ukris were running away... Gnyezdilov claims that in just 24 hours, about 6,500 grenades * From there, the forces of the DNR and the Russian army will move north. On Orlovka. With the intention of hitting the Ukrims who are defending Avdejevka from behind. DPR forces that entered Marjinka will head south - to Ugljedar _________________________________________________________ The entire Ukrainian vertical is collapsing, which is the last fortified line of defense east of Slavyansk, Kramtorsk, Druzhkovka, Konstantinovka and Ugljedar. The units of the Second Corps of the Army of the DNR entered Soledar, the previous experience has shown - in a few days, every town that the allied forces entered, as well as its outskirts, fell. The Russian army and the DPR fighters are advancing towards Bakhmut as well. From the east, southeast and south. They occupied the nearby settlements of Semigorje and Veršina and control both heights around the small town of Kodem, which the Ukris cannot actually defend anymore. With the fall of Kodema, the forces of the Kiev junta will have half the chance of holding Bahmut for the next few days. The entry of allied forces into Bahmut, at least from one side, is possible in the next 20-30 hours. The strategically important suburb of Donetsk - the well-fortified Peski - is almost completely occupied. Ukrainian fighter Sergej Gnyezdilov admitted that during the last days it was ``hell'' in that settlement, that the Ukrainian artillery was almost completely destroyed, and that the surviving Ukrainians were fleeing... Gnjezdilov claims that about 6,500 shells fell on the Ukro positions in just 24 hours. From there, the forces of the DNR and the Russian army will move north. On Orlovka. With the intention of hitting the Ukrims who are defending Avdejevka from behind. Allied forces enter Peski The 1st Corps of the DNR penetrated into Marjinka, which (also opposite Donetsk) is located a little further south and already controls a good part of it. A successful attack on the nearby settlements of Krasnogorovka and Staromikhaylovka is underway, which means that the fall of Maryinka is only a matter of time. From Krasnogorovka, the way to the south opens up for the allied forces, so in a few days it will be possible to attack the Ukrainian garrison holding Ugljedar from the poorly defended west. As soon as these operations are brought to an end, more than half of the southwestern part of the Donetsk Republic will be liberated.

  • @carlosdelhoyo9560

    @carlosdelhoyo9560

    Жыл бұрын

    👌👏👏

  • @_Nazar_

    @_Nazar_

    Жыл бұрын

    you took this text from Russian propaganda. this text is hyperbolic.

  • @carlosdelhoyo9560

    @carlosdelhoyo9560

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_Nazar_ hiperbolico? Hecho factico y encima noticia vieja hoy 7 de Agosto avanzo mas el ejercito Ruso

  • @ProjectHyena

    @ProjectHyena

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_Nazar_ Is all there on Telegram if you can stomach dead ukros eaten by maggots. If you can't retrieve or take you dead with you how can you win a war. Very unfortunate .

  • @jackreacher189

    @jackreacher189

    Жыл бұрын

    ...when you get out of the imposed pattern of thinking, it is difficult for every person to accept new facts, about these times few are so capable... still a new world, a new division, new money and the disappearance of some countries... and much less minority ones communities that mistreat family members and impose perversion ... a man still needs to return to his family ... goodbye Uktraino you were stupid ... you sold the country, your soul and consciousness for a cola drink and jeans ... history does not forgive! ..and this debt for collection is also coming to the USA.......

  • @jacksonteller1337
    @jacksonteller1337 Жыл бұрын

    These types of guns were retired in the west due to obsolescence and lack of protection. Only the former Soviet republics still use them and only the Ukraine upgraded and maintained them. There are a lot of banana peel pictures showing up on Russian pages of social media as well as the Ukrainian capturing them. They don't have enough replacement barrels or modern ammunition in the Russian army sacrifices are made in crew and guns because it is easier to replace the full system with stored ones than the barrel. A lot of corrosion issues and even completely warn out guns put in storage after Chechnya are put back into action without replacing or upgrading anything. I guess they don't care about people and especially conscripts as much as they pretend to typical Nazi behaviour sacrifice the people for Fuhrer Putin.

  • @danieparriott265

    @danieparriott265

    Жыл бұрын

    Correction Deflection: The M110a2 was replaced because the US no longer needed a diffuse short range tactical nuclear weapon delivery system ... and it's 30K strike capability was not deep enough compared to M270MLRS/HIMARS ... and it wasn't "tanky" enough for the Armor/Cav guys ... who always wanted their HOW batteries (Pretty sure if Armor guys were still running stuff, they'd still have M109Anuthin's trying to keep up with the latest Abrams variant ...