Civic platform used to be center-right, focused on economy. But ideologically they're shifted left and so did their economic program over time, now it resembles Law and Justice's program in many ways. Law and Justice are ideologically national conservatives but economically socialists or social-democrats.

@tomekg6629

7 ай бұрын

Civic Platform used to be right-wing party in the past, but now they are eclectic populists ready to say anything they think could attract voters.

@yohannesaradom8656

7 ай бұрын

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139 Elections in democratic society is based on their Constitution. Once you get the a solid Constitution Policy depends when you elect the right people for the position from the top to the bottom. I know Poland is a democratic country it has shown since the fall of Soviet Union how it achieved since then. The economy is solid the people have changed a lot improve the standards of living. The old " socialist system " is gone for good and market economy is ruling now; here and their hiccups on social life and economy is normal we have seen for centuries. It means certain changes and adjustments are necessary. Poland is part of the European economy and ofcourse world economy. Change comes every 10 to 15 countries within the country and abroad ( world economy) and measures are taken to reflect the changes. The Politicians sometimes change left and right and manipulate the people. I know some people don't want see changes out of fear what new change brings to the table. Reality on the ground and knowing the facts help the people to decide what actions should be taken thus why elections are held. Go Polska for the right decision you can't go hand in hand socialist and market economy together just have the right individuals to power that reflect the will of the Polish people. Thanks! I Love Polska/Poland!

@PrimalAspid96

7 ай бұрын

@@DonaldJohnTrump24 The law and justice and platform are voting for the same things inside european parliament but only scream how patriotic they are in polish parliament. We need to get rid of them both.

@antdex4988

5 ай бұрын

and Lewica this is polish PSOE, 3 way this is typical european christian democrats and Confederation this is polish substitute Republican party

@wildfire9280

4 ай бұрын

@@DonaldJohnTrump24 Funny joke.

This video does not give away just how unstable the political landscape in Poland is right now. The campaigns of all parties are now in full swing and multiple government scandals are erupting all at once (the visa scandal being the big one).

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139

7 ай бұрын

Still they somehow get stronger in polls, not weaker. Scandals do not affect them. Visa scandal could in theory harm them and demobilise their electorate. But civic coalition will have a difficult time using this as their narrative. They're not really reliable regarding migration themselves. It could mitigate Law and Justice's offensive on that front but rather by demobilising their electorate, not boosting civic coalition. Far right confederation could benefit from this but they have generally a bad time right now. They blew up in polls in June but are now far weaker. However visa scandal and grain issue gives them strong cards to play with. But Korwin once again comes out of his cave and says "things" so it makes life harder for that party.

@zawiszaczarny7876

7 ай бұрын

Alleged scandals, these pops up every election and fall into non existance after, and no, it's preety stable.

@asmaani74

7 ай бұрын

Your imaginary "scandals" did nothing.

@mix3k818

7 ай бұрын

@@asmaani74 Oh, these scandals are quite real and have been hurting PiS's narratives for some time now.

@futabamajima

6 ай бұрын

​@@asmaani74aged well

Great video but please adjust the volume of the interviews, is too low.

Civic Platform is not center-right but center-left!

@Fill256

7 ай бұрын

It depends on inside wings. In KO coalition, most of side parties is left or center left, but PO itself is definately center-right, therefore combined it is culturally left, but economically rather center-right one.

@frusia123

7 ай бұрын

Let's agree it's a centrist party.

@tanczacyzesmerfami6832

6 ай бұрын

Piszesz tak bo sobie nie zdajesz sprawy jak bardzo lewicowe są LEWICOWE partię na zachodzie dla nich PO centrowa prawica.

@julianzakrzewski8980

6 ай бұрын

@@tanczacyzesmerfami6832 czy określając lewicowość-prawicowość danego ugrupowania politycznego oceniamy go w kontekście obecnych realiów politycznych Europy zachodniej? Czy może w bardziej ogólnym uniwersalnym (zarówno czasowo jak i miejscowo) kontekście polityki państw świata a zwłaszcza cywilizacji zachodniej? To, że obecnie w Europie zachodniej (głównie w kwestiach światopoglądowych) społeczeństwa a co za tym idzie politycy są bardziej lewicowi nie zmienia istniejących definicji prawicowości i lewicowości będących nierozerwalnie związanymi z pewną nieelastyczną aksjologią. Poza tym należy też patrzeć na rzeczywistość polityczną państwa które się opisuje. A w naszej rzeczywistości politycznej PO-KO jest centrolewicowa.

@tanczacyzesmerfami6832

6 ай бұрын

@@julianzakrzewski8980 właśnie że zmienia kiedyś na lewo byli ludzie którzy chcieli prawa do głosowania tylko dla mężczyzn w odpowiednim wieku spełniających cenzus majątkowy i to było kiedy powstawała owa definicja lewicowe. Dzisiaj jakbyś chciał odebrać prawa głosu kobietom oraz biedniejszym mężczyznom to byłbyś uznany za skrajnego prawicowca. A wracając do współczesności dzisiaj w cywilizacji łacińskiej za umiarkowanie lewicowe uznaję się aborcję na załowanie, eutanacje, związki tej samej płci, zmiana własnej płci na dowodzie w urzędzie czy nawet (to może bardziej skrajne) uczenia w szkołach podstawowych gejowskiego seksu i jestem w 100% pewien że Tusk w praktyce przynajmniej nie jest zwolennikiem żadnej z tych rzeczy a PO to partia wodzoska.

I had to hear it once again bcoz I didn't understand the word when u pronounced really bad the prime minister's surname xd

As a Polish Citizen living abroad for 25+ years, the political situation is essentially foreign to me. I don't feel comfortable voting in a system I have no familiarity with, and yet I feel like I should've voted. Seeing that Polish Politics is limited to similar meaningless false dichotomies "left vs right", " liberal vs conservative" that we have in the US gives me some relief though. Until I can find some objective / unbiased method to inform myself on their politics, I can't justify voting at all.

@PrimalAspid96

7 ай бұрын

Polish law and justice and civic platform don't really differ that much. law and justice is voting for the same things civic platform do inside european parliament and only scream in polsih parliament in front of cameras how patriotic they are to fool their elderly rural electorate. Confederation is like if republican party and libertarian party of USA got together since strongest party inside(new hope) is in the same international group Libertarian party of USA is.

@Fill256

7 ай бұрын

I love your approach. Most of Polish abroad voters opts for Confederation or Law and Justice because they hear that germans/russians will rule otherwise or that the others are commies only. Better to not vote not knowing inside dilemas. As I love study economy on the US example, I would never vote, since I don't know basics and probably would be useful tool to manipulate.

@Nitrotix1

7 ай бұрын

Right, I wouldn't want someone voting in the US elections if they had lived abroad for the same time and had no interest in the political system. It is hard to know what's going on just from surface level news reports. I can't even imagine what the perception is of US politics to an outsider.

@wildfire9280

4 ай бұрын

@@Fill256 Bizarre considering the coalition literally named “The Left” is right there and most parties aren’t part of it.

What I see is that the EU does not see and is not ready to defend itself. Vienna has fallen and the Polish Winged Hussars are not ridding to the Vienna to save EU. Their defending Poland and the EU.

As polish i love this video

Poland. Dont allow the EU to interfere in your politics !!!!!!

@nikokk3224

5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately people are stupid 😂

Sponsored propaganda

@sernik_z_rodzynkami

7 ай бұрын

I don't think it's sponsored. They just didn't mention all atrocities of PiS because they tried to focus on a big picture. Also the list is so long that the video would have to be 10h long

The only political program of the opposition that calls itself the total opposition is : end the government of PiS. 1. judicial system in Poland is the same like in Germany and Spain 2. During the Tusk’s party rule 30% of children were living in poverty, high unemployment rate forced millions of Poles to look for work abroad, military units were dismantled, bus transportation in countryside drastically limited, pension fund was stolen by the gov, strategic national companies sold abroad, media were in hands of foreign investors, no PiS politicians had access to tv, computers of independent journalists were forcibly taken away, mining industry destroyed with no alternative provided,workers who consequently lost their jobs were shot with rubber bullets, protesters beaten, national funds were secretly stolen and transferred abroad, VAT went to private accounts, there was no substantial social assistance, hunger minimal pensions and wages, co-operation with Russian security agency (former KGB) and secret military agreements with Russia against NATO policy, falsifying of the evidence re airplane crash in which the Polish President was killed, leaving the evidence in Russian hands, reset with Russia that almost send the country again and this time voluntary into dependance of the imperialistic neighbour, The military units in the east of Poland and dependence line set on the left side of Wisła meant that the country was fully defenceless. Tusk, faithful vassal of Merkel represented German instead Polish interests. Tusk party built coalition with other oppositional parties which calls itself a total opposition and is not only lobbying in and outside Poland against the current government but regularly voting in EU against Polish interests and even presenting resolutions undermining Poland. No wonder since the overwhelming majority of PO members comes from the once privileged communists, security agents and their descendants. Difficult to understand but since Poland has never undertaken a process of decommunisation, even now prominent communists and agents from the forgone era sit in EP. Given the left turn of Brussels that celebrates Marx and Spinelli they sit in the right place. But even in Tusk time, Poles worked hard, set up businesses and slowly but steadily contributed to economic grow.. Opposition that would build the coalition consist of 7 parties, each with deferent programs but with one wish to take over the rule of the Polish state would mean chaos and wouldn’t last. Thanks to the migration policy Poland has been a safe or the only safe country in Europe but this would end when pro- migration PO comes to the government. As for the abortion: constitution that was not created and approved by PiS says that all lives from conception to death must be protected. When the President Duda tried to initiate to amend or change the constitution the total opposition protested against it. B/by re abortion - how is it possible that EU approves the total (in opposition to the Polish abortion law) abortion ban in Malta ? And in fact why abortion if there are contraception is available? Check all facts before reporting!

@krystynatelega3669

7 ай бұрын

Masz rację w moim kraju nie wszyscy to rozumią

@wejtusek

7 ай бұрын

ale też za pisu najlepiej nie ma gorzej jest

@aleksanderkarch2620

7 ай бұрын

Well you didn't mention that PiS has stolen more than 10 billions zlotys with various schemes during its reign. All of the corrupted politicians from PO-PSL government have been sentenced during the PO reign or shortly after (not to mention, the total amount stolen was closer to 100mln - 100 times less, not adjusted for inflation). All the thieves from Law and Justice are sitting comfortably in their state positions. The judicial system isn't perfect and never was, but PiS only made it worse by tampering with the judgings to their will (15 cases against Giertych, all inspired by Minister of Justice himself with no factual proof is just one example). Moreover, PiS violates women rights and minority rights in Poland, something that most people just simply won't tolerate. There was a scandal recently when it was revealed that current ruling party has given over 200000 visas to migrants from middle east, northern Africa and Kazachstan region. How does that exactly comply with their narrative, that they won't let anyone in? The unemployment rates were higher in 2007-2014 and that's a fact. What's also factual is the world was in the middle of a fucking crysis back in 2007-2008 and PO has managed to maintain an economic growth as the only country in EU. PiS during the recent Covid crysis has basically crippled the private sector - not your massive companies commiting data theft and lobbying - your local restaurators, shop owners, gyms and small businessmen in general. It is also noteworthy that PO gave the power to PiS while poland was experiencing a decent unemployment rate (7-8% from what I recall) and polish currency was experiencing slight DEFLATION - no other government has ever managed to do it. PiS ramped the inflation to circa 4% (which is not too bad, but 2% would've been enough to stimulate the economy), and more recently their wrong decisions has led Poland into the greatest inflation since early 2000s PO sold some polish companies to foreign investors, PiS has done the same (merged orlen with lotos, then sold 30% of shares to hungarian oil company for minor compensations) Also, PiS has always been keen on creating the polish Oligarchy - like the billionaires in Russia, Belarus or Ukraine - hence the multiple malversations Don't get me wrong, PO/KO is by no means saint or anything, some of their actions like stealing of half of the pension funds from OFE were reprehensible. And yet, they just seem like a better option for Poland when compared to law and justice. BTW: If you look at the citizens in Poland, one tiny detail is quite interesting. KO voters most often despise PiS party - not their voters, just their politicians. On the other hand, PiS sympathics have no issue being hateful towards opposition politicians and voters alike. What's funny is, they'll be more upset about Poland being politicaly divided. Well, one way of ending this division would be to respect the other side's arguments and engage in a civilised discussion -but only a bloody lunatic would do that obviously lol) I'm personally a social liberal, but I hold no grudge against conservatists (as long as they do not attack me lol), but PiS is objectively an awful party and it's a shame that people like you have to be represented by them. Poland is really lacking a conservative party that wouldn't be autocratic and populist at the same time. PSL is the closest one we have, but they are more center-oriented than most traditionalists would like. Woah. That was a long rant from me lol

@CroElectroStile

7 ай бұрын

Can you tell me why did people of Poland choose Tusk? wasn't the country going in the right direction? and will he open the borders and take in the "fair share" quotas since he is on the side of EU?

@wejtusek

7 ай бұрын

the goverment defo wasnt going in the right path, it tried to split poles around and make them angry at themselves and take advantage of it. @@CroElectroStile

what are you tryna say

We need a hard right Poland 💪

@lieutenantcandlewax

6 ай бұрын

They already had that and it failed.

@JimmyCeesAll

6 ай бұрын

@@lieutenantcandlewax the leader got corrupted. When hard right is voted in, America and UK get involved to rig the next election.

I hope Poland today is matured enough as Democratic State in Europe and particularly playing its role which I am proud of it. Dear Citizens of Poland election is everything and reflects what you want in your life. Democratic values achieved when you elect the right leaders that reflect your values. Since the end of the Evil Communist system of Soviet Union Poland is playing its role in the European Union (EU) & NATO. I was so happy the government and the Polish people took stand with the great people of Ukraine 🇺🇦 against the invasion by Putin the monster of KGB. History will judge you what you have done to Ukraine people. It was a Noble cause. When you play the right way in elections put the right people to power everyone wins that means POLSKA wins and it's position in the world politics achieves its place. GO POLSKA WITH DEMOCRACY!

@PL_WhiteEagle

7 ай бұрын

We do not want to change the government, because history has shown that our government was right compared to what the Eurocrats said. Moreover, under the current government, Poland has recorded significant economic improvement. All economic indicators have improved significantly. Democracy will, of course, win, the majority will choose a better government and I am sure it will not be Tusk's government.

@yohannesaradom8656

7 ай бұрын

@@PL_WhiteEagle I have no problem whatsoever if majority elect the current government. That is what we call majority rules. I am not talking here about Eurocrats I am talking elections in Poland by the Polish People. Good luck who ever wins a win for the Polish people.

@PL_WhiteEagle

7 ай бұрын

@@yohannesaradom8656 Thanks. Best Regards

@frusia123

6 ай бұрын

@@PL_WhiteEagle We've just changed the government. So even if you don't want any change, the majority of Poles have voted for change. I hope you'll find out soon their choice was not as bad as Kaczyński wanted you to believe.

@frusia123

6 ай бұрын

@@MlodyPartyjniak PiS and democracy don't even grammatically fit in one sentence. Unless there is a negative somewhere there.

Hopefully we get a conservative poland into 2024 💯

@dendziem

7 ай бұрын

Hopefully not 💯

@Har1ByWorld

7 ай бұрын

@@dendziem hopefully we will get

@dendziem

7 ай бұрын

@@Har1ByWorld No thanks, I prefer to live in a country that respects human rights and freedom

@Har1ByWorld

7 ай бұрын

@@dendziem then yes you want conservative country :)

@dendziem

7 ай бұрын

@@Har1ByWorld I don't know what your definition of freedom is, but I would get my rights taken away, or maybe even get killed in a conservative country for simply existing, so that's a hard pass from me :)

8:01 - That's an incredibly biased and disengenous way of putting things and it's plainly obvious what her political leanings are... To claim that the current government runs the media and fills it with propoganda is quite funny since there are a handful of TV stations that are owned by the government and always have been (just like the BBC in the UK). Everyone knows these are official government-owned channels, this isn't hidden information and they're not set up to try and trick you... And guess what, if the opposition government were in power THEY would be the ones running those same channels, exactly like they were around the 2010's when they were the majority party. So to act like "government propaganda" is all over Polish news/TV and NOW it's this HUGE problem because it's not to your political liking is quite funny. What's alarming is how many of these leftist Poles find their way into foreign media to perpetuate this type of nonsense.

@parziiich

7 ай бұрын

Man xD bbc is rather objective whereas in Poland tvp is horrible one party leaning. I was watching polish tv the other day and on tvp they were accusing one governor that he is a traitor because he wanted to co-operate with Germany to keep a river clean plus blaming for everything previous government plus talking some populist shit. then I changed the channel tvn where tusk was talking and when confronted with rival party supporter he and his people were laughing. These two parties are bad I don’t get how people can still support them. Old people should retire not destroy the country for younger generations 😢

@anonymous4chantroll

7 ай бұрын

@@parziiich The BBC only seems objective to those who lean left. At best they are left-of-center. I agree the choice of political parties in Poland isn't great but this is the case everywhere in the world and there is a massive divide in ideology in all Western countries at present. And yes, old people are stuck in their ways and slow to adapt but young people are often too volatile and too quick to throw out working structures. Unfortunaely younger people also seem to be much more susceptible to propaganda from new ideologies (there's a reason young people tend to lean left and then transition to leaning right as they grow older and start building their own lives). Now couple this youthful volatility and naive acceptance of new idiologies/rebelious spirit with Polish people's pathological and undeserved mindset that they are always worse than those in the West, and you get the current situation in Poland. I don't know who will win in the upcoming election and I don't know where Poland will be headed in the future but I do know this: I've lived in Poland. I've lived in the US. I've lived in the UK. Poland is BY FAR the best place out of the three and Polish people really need to get their heads out of their a$$es and start being proud of all they have achieved in such a shorrt amount of time since the fall of communism. Yes, the earning potential in Poland is worse than in the West (for now) but Poland has so much more to offer and so much more room to grow. I'm friends with many foreigners that lived in Poland (from the UK, Australia, the US, India, Korea, Canada, Lebanon, etc) and every time we would go out on the town and interact with young Polish people we'd hear the same thing. "Omg why would you come to Poland, its so $hit. I'd give anything to live somewhere else." And every time we heard this it confused us and just made the whole interaction awkward (and frankly kind of embarrassing since I'm Polish myself). This happened frequently over the years and each time they would later ask me in private "what are they complaining about??" because none of them understood. Life in Poland isn't bad and Polish people need to stop trying to be like the West all the time, especially when most of the West is currently on the decline.

@bambina5604

7 ай бұрын

That a big load of BS and there are stats to prove it. Check out air time of opposition politicians during previous governments. Presenters of state tv straight up asked PiS politicians how they can help them win. ON AIR. Not to mention that the government tried to shut down opposition media in the past.

@dendziem

7 ай бұрын

@@anonymous4chantrollIf you don’t believe that TVP is at North Korea’s level of propaganda, you either never actually watched any of it or you are straight up delusional. Also, it’s in fact rightism and right wing propaganda that you grow out of, but I guess it’s hard to cope with the fact that today’s youth is more educated and critically thinking than you lol

Co za stek bzdur!!!

Pis - Right wing and PO - center :D Lmaaaaaaaoooooooo This clip is such a crap and missinformation

This is biased view from some hard-core Civic Platform supporters with huge dose of misinformation.

@PL_WhiteEagle

7 ай бұрын

💯

@bambina5604

7 ай бұрын

Or your view is just so biased that you can't deal with anything than state propaganda

@tomekg6629

7 ай бұрын

@@bambina5604 i live here, I do not watch any propaganda. This movie is based on some invented views not on facts.

@bambina5604

7 ай бұрын

@@tomekg6629 and I live "here" too. People consuming propaganda usually don't understand they're consuming propaganda.

@tomekg6629

7 ай бұрын

@@bambina5604 you described yourself perfectly :)

Law and Justice 🔥🔥

@pumpkincat3739

7 ай бұрын

Lost their majority by the Polish people n✊🇵🇱

@SchlesMapper

6 ай бұрын

Is over🎉

If Poland 🇵🇱 is so prosperous, why have so many Polish people chosen to stay in the UK?

@Fill256

7 ай бұрын

Mainly because the apartment rents or loan rates are nearly same, food is only 1.5 times Polish prices, while earnings in the UK are at least twice as good as in Poland. Many times even 3 or 4 times better. Poland is prosperous, but it must take a lot of time to be on the same level as once half world empire's centre. We had most 2 world wars, war with bolshevics and communist regime on out territory in last century, and to mention Russian and Austrian-Hungarian rules in the half of todays territory century before. Probably we will never be on the same level.

@snelgrave101

7 ай бұрын

Maybe because they have friends, family, jobs etc?

@frusia123

7 ай бұрын

I have chosen to stay in the UK, and have been here for over 15 years, but most of my cousins and friends in Poland are doing better. Or at least not worse than me here. Also, it's just over 0.5 million of us Poles in the UK, while there are almost 38 millions of people in Poland who have not left the country despite the borders being open for 20 years. So yeah, Poland is a fairly prosperous country, although nowhere near the richest countries in Europe.

@snelgrave101

7 ай бұрын

@@frusia123 I'm a Scot living in Poland, thinking of returning home now, no way will I live under tusk's rule, no way.

@frusia123

7 ай бұрын

@@snelgrave101 Give him a chance 😉 I actually consider going back to live in Poland now.

Come on Pis.

polish better learn arabic

He looks like Muslim not polish. He knows nothing here. But, too many parties in Poland is true. Too nanny. Very unstable over there.