This car is absolutely amazing! It looks incredible in person, and the 6 speed manual is a dream. Just love it.

After seeing it in person the other day, I love it! Stoked for mine that’s been built and painted in Alpine White. Videos to come.

The car looks unique

@SRG7796

Жыл бұрын

Uniquely awkward 👍

@HaloDude557

Жыл бұрын

Same with a PT Cruiser

@tyler9703

Жыл бұрын

That's a kind way to put it

@shiyaazht

Жыл бұрын

@@HaloDude557 no pt cruiser is just disgusting, never should of been made💀

@albinbiju7231

Жыл бұрын

@@SRG7796 I think the hate is blown out of proportion by a generation of “car enthusiasts” that likes to whine at the slightest change. I’m not saying it’s the best looking car, but I still think it’s a good looking car maybe with the exception of the rear bumper. If anything people should complain about the weight increase. The trend of weight increase is inevitable but I’d worry about that first before worrying about a design that’s different from usual. I can understand the hate if they followed the same pattern as the M3/4 but that’s obviously not the case.

I wasn't a fan until I started watching reviews on it. Need to drive one soon, seems like a blast.

M2C owner here, thanks for your review. I watched this without your commentary, and with. Without, I was wondering why you would turn in so early. Then, with your commentary, it made sense. It’s not as tossable. Thanks again.

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

Yea, it carries its weight to the edge of the corner if you turn in too late. M2C would just tuck in.

@mcgman8058

Жыл бұрын

not sure whats going on here with this new car and engine power delivery. but pretty sure the M2C would be like a wild beast in 2nd gear on that road with the traction control light continuously blinking. I dont like this direction BMW is going in. Who cares if the overall numbers are better.. the cars are less exciting.

Love bmws, and i also love your channel. Another great video dude, love it. vroom vroom

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for the support

In the morning I thought about pov drive of 2023 beamer M2 from miles perhr. In the evening milesperhr uploaded a pov video of 2023 beamer m2. Fantastic 🙂✌️

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

I got you!

It looks like a design that was left unfinished. The color doesn't do it any favors. If I had to get this, it would be in sapphire black and no other color....

@uik99

Жыл бұрын

It needs proper wheels and blacked out windows to really compliment the color. Boring black is not the way to go!!

@schrimpf

Жыл бұрын

True. Sapphire black is by far the best color for this car.

I had been looking forward to this review for a loooong time.. So glad to see it's finally here :D Looking forward to the night time review as well :) Will you be doing a review on the A/T model as well? Not many creators out there have a review on that :(

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

If this video performs well, I'll try to book the AT as well!

This car with Valvetronic's midpipe + downpipes is a sound that is sorely missed from production cars today. It legit sounds like a high revving NA inline 6. What's up with the 2-3 year wait though? Is that in affect now, or was that the wait time from when they first announced it?

Love your reviews Miles

You are right on a lot of points. The gear ratio does not offer the same zip as the Comp and is more suited for track. Lightning in a bottle used to happen so readily with the Comp. I haven’t found it in this one yet especially with those super sticky tires. It is also too muscular and not as nimble in city. The interior is much improved however I wish they had kept a needles gauge cluster for what might be one of the the last manual productions.

Great review 👏

An objective and comprehensive review of the 2023 BMW M2, MPH. I like the front and side profile, but definitely NOT a fan of the rear that looks bumpy. Thx for the ride!

@MilesPerHr

11 ай бұрын

Very gracious feedback, Hector. Agreed about the rear end

Love the way this looks and that the ride is composed. It’s the closest thing to an E90. I don’t love that it’s basically the same as the M3/M4 which are more practical for daily use, albeit much more expensive also.

It’s growing on me I can’t lie

There is still nothing that I like about this car, absolutely nothing. Great video btw

@maxoberg4642

Жыл бұрын

The performance?

@mcgman8058

Жыл бұрын

@@maxoberg4642 the performance is relative. never ever purchase a car you dont like because of the performance numbers. I've made the mistake before.

From the way you describe that shifter, it sounds a lot like they haven't changed at all over the years. It feels rubbery and more loose than a shifter should be.

The new M2's design is....difficult. It looks like more thought was put into it, and more effort was made, but it look more cartoonish. The older M2 looked like a car I would seee everyday on the road, the new one looks like an early 2000s concept car that, by some miracle, was made a real car.

I love a good manual but the a8 sounds like the way to go with the new M2 I'd take an auto m2 over any of the mentioned competitors mentioned in this video. I'd take the m2 over the m4 as well, due to the lower cost and smaller "form factor"

I love the design and aesthetics. Boxy fender flares, smooth and sleek body, great colors, smaller size. the rear vents look a a bit weird to me but that's about it. such a breath of fresh air after the current m3/m4 grill debacle. I like it more than the previous M2, I prefer the simpler more sculpted form

trust me i saw this car irl in nardo gray and it looks so good video doesn't do justice when u see its irl it looks so good in nardo gray the blue color doesnt really grow on me tbh

There's more steering feel in the Elantra N. How much is this again?

None of these options are great, but the M2 does have back seats and the best engine of everything you mentioned within the price range.

I drove both the 230i and the 240i. Can't stand the lack of feedback from BMWs nowadays. You never know what to expect until you hear the tires screaming.

I really think the M2 look "unique" I like it but not as much as the Old M2, still i like it!

crazyyy luv ur vids!!

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

@HeckBoss

Жыл бұрын

@@MilesPerHr my pleasure

I want to like this car, cool concept. The rear styling is just too confused, needs darker color options. M4 seems like a more appealing albeit more expensive proposition. It’s strange, but it seems as though Caddy makes a better M-Car these days. Bigger screen(just because it’s so comically small) on the CT4 and I’d actually rather have it. Plus you get Magride which rocks on a daily.

Can you do a driving video of the 2023 bmw m2 automatic version?

Funny thing I was watching ur video now and u released another video

@jordaniscool5802

Жыл бұрын

Hey leave him alone it's funny man

@Proparkourgamer

Жыл бұрын

@@jordaniscool5802 i was copying the first guy who did it lol

I’d choose this M2🔥🔥

I like the look, could be as close to the orginal M3 look you can get today.

Nothing stays the same. If it did then we would complain about that. All cars are bigger and creature comforts contribute greatly.

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

Totally makes sense, it just now leaves a gap in BMW's M lineup and I don't expect a new 1 Series replacement coming to fill that gap.

@HaloDude557

Жыл бұрын

The M2 is supposed to be small. Want comfort? Get an M3.

@GTOHawg

Жыл бұрын

@@HaloDude557 and good luck selling a car today that doesn’t have what people expect for a price tag. If you want a small car with no creature comforts buy a Miata. We want bigger wheels. More weight. Bigger brakes. More weight. The list goes on. People are never satisfied and if the majority of people complaining would have actually bought the prior models it might be something.

The old M2 comp wasn’t exactly light at 3,600 lbs with the manual. This New M2 with the MT is 3750 lbs as IND reported. That’s only a ~150lb difference and it has the same transmission the old one had. I’m sure crash safety and platform sharing is the cause of the increased weight.

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

BMW quotes the curb weight of the 2023 M2 with an MT at 3,814 lbs. Not sure where you're sourcing the 3,750 lbs with an MT. A 214 lbs difference is noticeable for a vehicle weighing under 4,000 lbs. Increased crash safety, platform sharing, a new engine, etc. all contribute, but it's also the longer, wider platform that make this new model behave differently from the old. As I said in the video, it feels more like you're driving an M4 (for better or worse).

@TrackdayRay

Жыл бұрын

@@MilesPerHr BMWs internal data shows the car at 1700kg in manual form. That converted to lbs is 3,747. There are a few people on forums and KZread videos that have weighed it and confirmed this weight. I can email you the specs from the internal docs if you would like. I know that their press states 3800, but that is for the auto car. You are right tho it does feel a lot more like the M4.

@Rickrg95

Жыл бұрын

@@TrackdayRay IND's g87 has carbon roof, f87 comp doesn't. They also used 75% fuel instead of 100% tank. New car is a chonker

@TrackdayRay

Жыл бұрын

@@Rickrg95 I never denied that. Cars get heavier as the years go by. There are a few exceptions.

@Yuki_Onna7744

Жыл бұрын

​@@MilesPerHr When are you going to try the Ferrari Purosangue?

I really love that looks, kind of tight in the back 😂 but overall a great look for me.

@siwat8708

Жыл бұрын

The real one is so cool and unique.

@misternobody4791

Жыл бұрын

@@siwat8708 Wdym? Are you talking about the M1/3

@siwat8708

Жыл бұрын

M2 sir,

@misternobody4791

Жыл бұрын

@@siwat8708 Yeah, I do agree with you on that.

@siwat8708

Жыл бұрын

@@misternobody4791 The real one looks more impressive than on the videos.

my dad's got s 2020 m2 competition, and it's honestly design perfection. i'm not sure why they decided to go from that to this weird overly boxy design. it just looks silly.

@stillevan1908

Жыл бұрын

My theory is that it’s the same “conversation starter” as the new M3 design. BMW wants people talking about them. They know they’ll only sell a few of these but if they can get people on their website to see their more “normal” cars, they’ll go “oh well the x1 looks like a cool crossover! The 5-series looks great!” Lol Also I’m glad they’re having a little fun before EVs ruin everything

I have to ask cause I have no idea but why is the speed blurred?

So this or a CT4-V Blackwing?

Are these canyons in malibu?

The thing with the cayman is that if you want to add options the car will be close to 100k, so i wouldn't considered that car a competitior. The c8 corvette is the same thing, you need the z51 package to be able to track the car, add more options like magneride and for the interior, the car will end up costing almost 90k(with the lt2 options just to try to match the quality interior). Also the corrvette you cant get it at msrp, which is a bommer. I will put the new mustang darkhorse as competitor because is a track car, almost the same price( with options) and is a 2+2 seater(the cayman and corvette are not).

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

Comparing vehicles based on options and what they're going for at dealers doesn't make much sense. This M2 was $75K with options and who knows what dealers will charge (and they'll all vary based on the part of the country/world you're in). The only fair measure is MSRP. I mentioned in the video that there were a lot of competitors, and I agree the Mustang Dark Horse is one of them. If I mentioned all of them, it would be a 45 minute video :)

@jreyes2464

Жыл бұрын

@@MilesPerHr well you are right with around the world and diferent states in the us but here in florida so far the m2 is going for msrp. My point just was that with the same options that the m2 has and for what the car will be use, the two mentioned competitors were a little off the range.

Does it have no lift shifts

Miles what about the Cla45s?, no idea how that car performs but might be a great comparison

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

The CLA45 and RS3 could totally be cross-shopped. I just chose one German (Cayman), one Japanese (GR Supra), and one American (Corvette) to discuss.

I think BMW needs to spice up the interiors for the new M cars. They all look EXACTLY the same inside with iDrive 8 and the steering wheel

I find the new BMW M2 an overall impressive automobile. Miles, am I seeing things or are car hoods getting longer again? Some new models from other manufactures also take-up plenty of extra space ahead of the windshield. Excessive hood length always seems to come at the expense of back seat room. If car designs are returning to the long hoods of the 70's - can the return of bell bottom pants be just around the corner? Otherwise the new M2 occupies almost as much area as the M4 Coupe, only with less space for the rear seats. Thanks Miles. 👍👍

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

I've seen a similar trend, Edd. I love the look of a long hood, but you're right that rear passenger space is compromised. Bell bottoms must be right around the corner 😆

Hi Miles, if you compare this 450 HP inline 6 T engine with the 315 HP inline 4 T from the Type R on the canyon road, witch engine performs better?

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

Hey Alen, good question. The CTR would be playing some catch-up on the straights, but it has plenty of power and a great platform to hang with the M2 in corners.

@eloneatmyshorts

Жыл бұрын

@@MilesPerHr Hi Miles. How about the CT4-V BW?

@alengreen589

Жыл бұрын

@@MilesPerHr thank you, I tought so.

this car looks like a cute person trying to be tough

I use to have 2021 F87 M2 Comp, and I actually like my G82 M3 better. Really interested in this new G87!!!

@amei_G80_BmwM3

2 ай бұрын

Hmmm.. last I checked the G82 was the M4…

@tommy516

2 ай бұрын

@@amei_G80_BmwM3 okay nerd

I personaly hate how much weight they added to the M2. This is suposed to be their lightest and smallest sports car but this one? This one is just an elephant in the room of sports cars. It makes supra or the new Z looks way more attractive than this. And the lack of configuration on digital cluster is also depressive. If this is a car for enthusiast why they dont give more option for cluster looks like classic, track etc.

@average_dipshit

Жыл бұрын

I thought the Z is already heavy in its class at 3600lb especially compared to the Supra, but this M2's weight is closer to an R35 GT-R at 3800lb 💀

@kamikaze91ful

Жыл бұрын

@@average_dipshit Since is hard to buy manual Supra i thought about buying M2 but this model? Man, never. To much stuff for common folks too less for enthusiast.

@blackfish4674

Жыл бұрын

​@kamikaze91ful confirmation bias. the new m2 destroys both of those cars in every way😂

@kamikaze91ful

Жыл бұрын

@@blackfish4674 wow. And most EVs destroys all of them in every way. Thats not why U buy a enthusiast car man. You buy them for analog feeling and fun.

@blackfish4674

Жыл бұрын

@@kamikaze91ful have you driven the new m2?

I am very disappointed to hear that clutch and gearbox are still weak points in those cars. This Camaro SS is looking more and more tempting..

@ms3ben

Жыл бұрын

At this price point, the zl1 is more comparable The m2 is a good bit faster and nicer than the SS

@wheelwrightpl9429

Жыл бұрын

@@ms3ben I doubt that m2 is faster than SS, because m2 is an overweight pig (it weights the same as the much larger SS due to poorly optimized shared electric/gasoline platform). Also m2 has considerably less torque. And if you like gimmicky & hard to read electronic gauges then m2 may be "nicer" too.

I like it not going hate like other people m2 look nice

Please do a drive on the 2023 ranger raptor please 🙏

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

I plan to!

How does this compare to the new RS3? I’m debating if I stick with my RS3 order or get an X3M.

@schrimpf

Жыл бұрын

Would you prefer the best online 6 or a compromised 5-cylinder? This gives you the answer.

my other ick with this car is that it comes with cast wheels and not forget like the other M cars. So you gotta add another 3-5k for a set of wheels to the price.

i love this new, boxy styling of M2 over new gen 2 coupe for sure..... and maybe even over previous m2.... too bad its not a 4 season daily unlike M240i xdrive... but again, styling of regular 2 coupe is not that nice..... btw those carbon seats in new M2 are overkill.... also no physical HVAC is a bummer.

Steering is just heavy, no matter the mode and numb as could be! Also, the M2 comp was a much better-looking car and actually looks like a genuinely nice-looking bimmer !

I like it. But, it’s so handicapped. Same motor, over 50hp less than an M4 Comp, with the same weight, and it’s only RWD. Which is backed up by my 3.09 draggy run on my M4 Comp.

I really like this title

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

It's almost as good as "2 fat to 2 be furious" 😂

Thanks, I hate it. Honestly looks like BMW took a step back with this generation. Don't even get me started with the XM. eeeuuagghh.

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

XM review coming soon!

Doesn’t even look bad. Still an in-line 6 with a manual? How are so many people complaining.

@mimidotcat

Жыл бұрын

Because it looks terrible, it's heavy and the manual transmission sucks

@Brian-jv8iy

Жыл бұрын

6 cylinder cars are popular here in Europe, rarer with a manual. Nothing special about those so no reason to not complain. Even if it was a rare combination, still, better to buy used than for some reason praise a terrible Mexican designed car, cheapened out on the interior and exterior to with terrible headlights and missing some features

@crisl9518

Жыл бұрын

​@@mimidotcatits the same as every manual bmw has made for the last 30 years

@JH-Carbon

Жыл бұрын

@@mimidotcat opinion based

@jreyes2464

Жыл бұрын

@@Brian-jv8iy yeah idk why they even get ridoff the angel eyes. The mexican designer is killing the designe language of the brand.

Doesn't matter how it drives when it looks like that

I like the new M2, but m240i xdrive is a better value.

aggressive but elegant design, light weight, and driver engagement…..is non existent in BMW

This color reminds me of pepto bismol in its tone and nauseous as a result. Ya feel me?

I have to daily it and put a toddler in the back seat so the M2 is really the only good option for me in this price range. If I didn't need the back seat I would 100% get the corvette. I don't care if there is a lot of them that's not why I buy performance cars. I buy them to beat the snot out of them an drive to work everyday like I stole it lol.

For me personally, looks don’t seem to be that big of an issue even when compared to older BMWs. I don’t know about others but BMWs in general haven’t looked particularly special imo since the beginning of the Bangle design era. It honestly took out the quirkiness from the preceding BMW designs which were more boxy and were the best examples of boxy designs. While this M2 isn’t the best implementation of a boxier design, I honestly appreciate the weird quirks on the design. I kinda prefer it over the F87 and it’s really short rear end. As mentioned in the video, more people may like the new M2 but it’s not as lovable. I think that’s the whole strategy BMW is going with to get it to sell more. The design in itself might play a role given how much people talk about, albeit the design is more likeable now than the M3/4. Another funny thing I noticed is looking at how the Supra went from a larger more muscular GT car to a small yet sleek sports car, while the M2 goes the opposite way…and we all know which one out of the Supras people still rave about lol. On a serious note, I think M2 will be more appreciated in the coming years as a good sports even if it isn’t a good M2. I think we’ve gone past the need to compare a new sports car model to its previous generations, we’re better off appreciating it as is in an age where every characteristic of a good sports car is being shoved into an SUV or a commuter car to create more buzz. The lack of comparison to older models I mentioned isn’t just for the M2, this applies to other cars as well, like the new Z and Supra.

Seems like the Elantra N could be even more fun than this new m2. Thoughts?

@andresmattos7541

Жыл бұрын

Indeed especially at half of the price

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

I love the way the Elantra N drives. Don't love the styling - but I can say the same thing of this new M2. It won't have the same panache of an M car, but for tens of thousands less, it's a heck of a deal!

@voltaire9237

Жыл бұрын

it's korean junk at the end of the day.

@Stevie4171

Жыл бұрын

@@voltaire9237 wrong. Don’t be a hater when the car is good.

I also have Audi RS3 in my list

The m3 is now the size of previous m5s. The m2 is now the new m3

IMO m2 shouldn't have rear seats, so if one of the main considerations is rear seat space is just not that logical :p

Sounds like the Blackwings 6MT are much more satisfying to drive than these 6MT M cars!

@mcgman8058

Жыл бұрын

of course they are because Cadillac actually cares about their manual transmission. BMW purposefully makes them lazy so you choose the auto box instead because of their "efficiency" goals.

Nothing urging me to trade my 2022 m240 in on one.

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

I'd agree with that. If the manual transmission was a revelation, it might be worth the change, but since it's not, the M240i is just about as fun to drive.

But it has as short a wheelbase as a E46

brand new car and someone already added swirls in the paint 😅

I’m of the unpopular opinion that this looks better than the F87 generation. Previous generation had a blob of a rear end, and a front end that went in the completely opposite direction of the rear, having an excess amount of points and sharps angles. There was zero connection between the rear and front styling of the F87. F87 also sat very high visually. Admittedly, the F87 needed just a few things changed visually to be perfect, creating a connection between the rear and front styling.

I don’t hate the look but I definitely don’t love it either.

Personally the new M3 and M4 have way better styling I love what BMW has done with them not so much this M2.

I was told I have to wait a year for this build smh .

Looks like an excellent manual transmission. Don't know what there is to complain about. Excellent performance car for a good price.

Toyota or Porsche for the best manual shifting experience.

Didn’t know seeing a lot of C8s was a bad thing 🤷🏾‍♂️

So basically it's a smaller m4 that's not that much smaller and only 200 lbs lighter I would just get a camaro ss 1le and call it a day

Seems like it’s carrying a lot of weight in spirited driving. Crazy how it barely fits on a lane

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

It definitely feels like a larger coupe now.

I increased the video quality to 1080p but it still looks in 144 please help

@blenderguy3250

Жыл бұрын

Learn how to use KZread

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

Hmm, not sure why you're seeing that. It should be the same viewing experience for everyone.

I love the new M2, looks great, performs a lot better and it's a lot better in the 8-speed auto. 😂

@mcgman8058

Жыл бұрын

which is a crime honestly. atleast the last car had a legit DCT that added a lot of excitement to the car.

They filed down the edges of the old m2 , meh makes it a better daily , but If that's what you want get the m4

@mcgman8058

Жыл бұрын

these cars are for the younger market. I dont think they care about it being a better "daily driver".

👍

You lost me at bar graph rev counter

Styling wise I think the key comparison is that it doesn't look as good as the M240i. I'm sure it's a great drive though.

VFM sport car

Handsome, but larger, heavier and less practical? I'm not the target market. Why is the smallest/sportiest BMW moving closer towards the M4 rather than staying true to it's place in the hierarchy. Absolutely hate that it looks like we're driving behind a TV screen. I doubt people pay this much to want to feel like they're in a racing simulator. Great car, just not as special as the former.

Wait after is 3 year old all the maintenance headaches lol😂😂😂

The one thing it really didn’t need is to gain more weight…..

Seems like the m240i would probably be the way to go if you wanted a 2 series. Very good price for the same amount of fun IMO. That being said I do like this car and the looks despite it being an unpopular opinion. To each their own!

6 speed manual no more. You can tell BMW is phasing it out.

I love the look and this color of the new M2. The last Gen M2 looked too feminine. It is a shame they got rid of the DCT though.

The existence of the M2 makes the m4 irrelevant. The m2/3/4 are all using the exact same engine, with minor differences between them. The Supra is using the same platform, and it’s almost $20k cheaper than the M2. So my question is, for the $20k difference between the Supra and M2, you can easily get more power than you’d ever get from the stock M4 at $100k+. So why buy the m4? Why not just get an M2 or Supra and tune them? If you’d like the sedan I can understand the reason behind the M3, but even then it’s still a jump from the m2 and there’s no difference between the M3 and m4 other than price. I can see a case for the M4 if it had a different engine like the one out of the M550 but the new BMW cars, across the board, drive the same, they’re all cookie cutter from the same mold.

BMWs Mexican studio isn’t good. I have an e92 daily and looked at this as 4 series is terribly expensive and we don’t finance cars in Europe privately, we use money we actually have or live within our means. And 2 series is too much, it’s cheaply made, terrible headlights, previous one was just a smaller 3 series, which also was cheaply made as it competed with Passat mainly, but it had the features and 2 series did too. This is just bad, big pieces of plastic on doors, little trimming. Less features than the previous 2 series. I’m going with a used Mercedes C216 S class coupe, it costs as much and is actually a good car.

Terrible NVH

Why are people reviewing the 2023 M2 more than the M3 which is what I love more

@MilesPerHr

Жыл бұрын

I've got a review of the M3, too: kzread.info/dash/bejne/laWEmtpteanPcZc.html

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