The 1994 Victor V-Saturn Console + Fenrir Optical Drive Emulator
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Checking out the Victor V-Saturn, a Japanese Sega Saturn game console sold by the company better known (to me) as JVC. The Vサターン RG-JX1 is a variant I've had my eye on for years. And the fact that it's modded with a Fenrir ODE is extra appealing since I've never used one. Until now! So here's a quick overview of the V-Saturn and a demonstration of the Fenrir ODE. And then the rest is just games, heh.
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*Fun fact:* K-B Toys was so annoyed with Sega's botched launch of the Saturn that they didn't sell them. To quote their vice president at the time: _"Going back to E3 in May 1995, when Sega decided to launch early, the company excluded us from its list of retailers, and that has hurt them tremendously. It hurt them really bad. Based on that alone we decided not to carry Saturns."_ So it probably was _not_ the mall store that I remember. Electronics Boutique used to be over near that same section of the mall so that'd be my second guess. Either way, the sight of a big pile of unsold Saturn games is the thing that sticks out in my mind! Poor Saturn, Sega really shot themselves in the foot.
@davidromeroblaya7920
Жыл бұрын
Shooting in her own foot is Sega's favourite hobby.
@aldizzle
Жыл бұрын
I was working downtown in Chicago and would go to the Summer CES shows in Chicago. I was a "regular" and well-known customer to the Babbage's and Electronics Boutique stores downtown and one day I walked in to discover that the Saturn "surprise launched" (widely considered a terrible business decision, and is a cautionary tale for businesses) and I bought it for $400. I loved it because of it's 2D power (Capcom fighting games) and Virtua Fighter and Sega exclusives, but many people never had it and I am very happy to see this video. Brings back good feelings for me.
@jomeyqmalone
Жыл бұрын
They DID carry the Atari Jaguar though. I distinctly remember that because one day our K-B had all the remaining consoles marked down to $29, and the games and accessories all between $2 to $8. That was a red letter day in my childhood, convincing my parents to buy one of everything, and keep it in their closet until I could buy it from them.
@crustifix
Жыл бұрын
I definitely remember the KB Toys Outlet having tons of the early long-box PSX games in discount bins, a good chance it’s just the similarities with US Saturn boxes that crossed in your memory. Also funny I remember them selling super cheap Dragonball Z toys that were rebranded because DBZ hadn’t even hit Cartoon Network yet and none of the characters had been introduced in America. Weird times in mid to late 90’s haha
@rommix0
Жыл бұрын
and because of that it kinda doomed the Dreamcast as well with SEGA eventually leaving the console market for good.
Clint, I can’t express to you how thankful I am for the trade. So happy you’re getting use out of the console!
@LGR
Жыл бұрын
Likewise man, I’m glad you got the game you were looking for and I’m having a lotta fun with a great system! Win-win 👍
@Pendarr
Жыл бұрын
If you don’t mind me asking, what game were you after? Must have been something pretty neat to want to trade a whole system for! :)
@Vulpas
Жыл бұрын
@@LGR Maybe we'll get some Saturn related videos?
@garlic_starlet
Жыл бұрын
What game was it? 🙂
@D0NU75
Жыл бұрын
Mr Anderson
The only times I ever got to play the Saturn was when my dad would break down and rent it for a weekend from Blockbuster.
@metooblueshoes
Жыл бұрын
You did better than me. I had to go to the mall, to an electronic boutique to play one on display. I remember being blown away by the Mario Andretti racing demo.
@beez1598
Жыл бұрын
Man, that made me have major nostalgia feels. My dad too, he would walk in with that big ugly blown plastic briefcase and I knew it was going to be a good weekend.
@dylanblack8714
Жыл бұрын
Breakdown?
@djsmileyoflasvegas
Жыл бұрын
@@dylanblack8714 give in
@crustifix
Жыл бұрын
Yeah my dad too! hooked on renting the system to play die hard arcade
Thanks for the shout-out dude!
@LGR
Жыл бұрын
Ah man, my pleasure. Thanks for the knowledge!
@AdamKoralik
Жыл бұрын
@@LGR
Love my Saturn. Was the only kid in my town to have one. I just last year had to rebuild the PSU inside the Saturn, it would randomly reset after playing for a while but now it works like a charm.
@daybrothers
Жыл бұрын
Cool
@ehrenloudermilk1053
Жыл бұрын
Neighbor kid a couple years younger than me had a Saturn. I played kolibri on it once and it was all I could talk about for months
@ninetendopesaitama2107
Жыл бұрын
Never known anyone with a saturn.
@MrLordpistoia
Жыл бұрын
@@ehrenloudermilk1053 kolibri was a 32x game...
@danielt.8573
Жыл бұрын
May I ask what components exactly were failing? My Saturn started doing that too about 2 years ago and I never got the time to fix it.
LGR covering the Sega Saturn is a real treat, and the rare V-Sat at that.
@Toonrick12
Жыл бұрын
It's not RARE, but it is uncommon.
@rommix0
Жыл бұрын
@@Toonrick12 That goes hand in hand. There are plenty of uncommon items that are rare. Some are cheap because nobody wants them or nobody knows about them yet.
Fun semi-related fact, you can now bypass the optical drive on the Nintendo GameCube using a raspberry pi pico board, haven't done it myself (mine is modded in an older method) but it looks relatively easy if you're familiar with a soldering iron.
@andrewclegg9501
Жыл бұрын
I did mine with the Picoboot last week, took longer to do than expected, I had to remove the Qoob SX mod chip thats been in it for 15 years. Works well, no more booting a disc to run Swiss to get to the games on the MicroSD. I like the option to rename .dol files with control button letters, holding B on mine boots Gameboy Interface, otherwise Swiss.
@frogjmon
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewclegg9501 I understand there is a new firmware (v0.2) out today, not sure if it's worth the effort to reflash or not, I understand you have to disconnect the 3.3v pin
@besotoxicomusic
Жыл бұрын
I was looking at that but was still a little intimidated by it since I’ve only ever used a soldering iron once in my life.
@frogjmon
Жыл бұрын
@@besotoxicomusic it's certainly not a starter project, but from what I've seen it might be easier than the mod I did. If you want to take this on, you can pickup some junk electronics equipment and practice soldering wires onto terminals etc, similar to what will be done on the actual mod, until your comfortable to move forward. Lots of good resources for soldering available on KZread.
@hanzobi1926
Жыл бұрын
Should be able to have a custom bios like what Cobra did with the Viper Chip years back
I modded a Saturn last year and haven't shut up about it ever since! Tremendously underrated console with some terrific and really forward looking games
@peterpuke2841
Жыл бұрын
It was a great console with a great potential but with a terrible management behind it indeed.
@RaysGamingChannel2003
Жыл бұрын
Mines not modded yet
@JohnDoe-wq5eu
Жыл бұрын
Once you break it open and get into the extensive Japanese catalog that's when the true fun begins. That's not to say the US version didn't get some great games but they're incredibly expensive if you get them physically and also compared to Japan it was minuscule.
@phazayus4041
Жыл бұрын
I have the terraonion mode in mine with a new psu and 3d printed tray eith sd card extendor no regrets!
@ThesexyMrX
Жыл бұрын
Have you done a dreamcast?
My cousin got the Sega Saturn from EB games, because stores like KB Toys and Walmart refused to sell the Saturn console for leaving them out at launch! But the optical drive had some problems, probably design flaws with how the system was designed!
Your content has remained consistent for a long time and I am still enjoying it. Great work, sir.
@LGR
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
I was a massive saturn fan back in the days, and supported it to the point some of my friendships suffered a bit back then … But I do have A LOT of wonderful memories, MANY hours spent on so many great games. Seeing it receive so much attention from the retrogaming community for the last few years really feels like the universe trying to fix one past mistake. Anyway, that’s good to see you give a little hommage to that lovely system with your usual passion and enthusiasm, Clint. Thank you for that, I’m glad you enjoyed it.
I'm so glad you're covering this and it reaching lots of people. Even most in the retro console hobby don't know optical drive emulators exist now.
My Saturn has the Satiator, and I like it because you just plug it into that expansion slot above the CMOS battery rather than having to actually remove the optical drive.
@Cyber_Akuma
Жыл бұрын
Same, I wish more ODEs had a way to keep the optical drive, many of them just have you remove it. Very happy there is now such an option for the Saturn, PS1, and even Neo Geo CD... now if only the Dreamcast could get such an option.
@K9arcade
Жыл бұрын
@@Cyber_Akuma I'm with you on that. I don't wanna drastically modify the system, but I do like the benefits.
Sega Saturn Story to add to that "mystical" feel of the console - I worked at Toys R Us in the 90s between the Saturn and Dreamcast. The store's outer perimeter along the sides and back housed the area where boxed toys were stored along with swing sets, bikes, etc. The lights back there always seemed to need replacing, so it wasn't always lit that well. The common areas were fine, but the distant areas that held store supplies weren't as well-maintained. One day I was asked to look for something out of the ordinary and had to explore the darker areas of storage. I stumbled upon the remains of our entire Sega Saturn display kiosk on top of a pile of other things. It was odd to find something of that size amongst things like rolls of stickers, papers, and other supplies. However as it was promotional material of sorts that wouldn't need to be accessed on a daily basis, there it was. Those things take up a decent chunk of space, so I am sure it was a matter of "get this thing out of here" when they updated the look of R-Zone (that's what we called the video game area) at the time after the Saturn had run its course. This may have been summer of 1998. The store was remodeled in the early 00s to the racetrack configuration and then demolished a couple of years ago. I have no idea what happened to the kiosk. It was probably thrown away during the '99-'01 remodel... but then again, perhaps I recall another employee walking out with it one day when the remodel began in 1999. Over 20 years ago.... I can't quite remember...
@Chaos89P
Жыл бұрын
"R-Zone"? Was it sponsored by Tiger or something?
I got my Saturn in 96 and loved it! Played a lot of games through a rental store. A few years later I also got a N64...
Finally someone talks about Impact Racing! Top 5 video game soundtracks for me personally.
@LGR
Жыл бұрын
It's honestly bangin
I never thought I would see another LGR console video. That last happened many years ago.
@LGR
Жыл бұрын
Well, there was the Xbox 20th anniversary video just last fall ;)
@Cimone90
Жыл бұрын
@@LGR that was a great one. Definitely in my top 3 favourite LGR videos.
@daemonspudguy
Жыл бұрын
@@LGR I must have missed that. Balls.
Weird. Your experience with Saturn back in the day is exactly what I had with the N64. I only ever saw *ONE*, which was owned by one of my neighbours. Everyone nearby who had a console had a PS1, before moving up to the PS2 (with one exception, a kid who had an xbox when that came out). In fact, I've only ever seen that one N64! It's bizarre. EDIT This was in the UK, by the way.
@dannysummers4591
Жыл бұрын
Interesting, growing up I mostly knew people who owned both. PS1 was great for single player games while N64 was great for parties with games like Goldeneye or Mario Kart.
@kyle857
Жыл бұрын
I had a 64 and it was about 50/50 what my friends had. I only had one friend with a Saturn, but he always had every system. He got me into Sega so I got a Dreamcast on 9/9/99. Mistakes...
@kyle857
Жыл бұрын
I had a 64 and it was about 50/50 what my friends had. I only had one friend with a Saturn, but he always had every system. He got me into Sega so I got a Dreamcast on 9/9/99. Mistake...
@kyle857
Жыл бұрын
I had a 64 and it was about 50/50 what my friends had. I only had one friend with a Saturn, but he always had every system. He got me into Sega so I got a Dreamcast on 9/9/99. Mistake...
@kyle857
Жыл бұрын
I had a 64 and it was about 50/50 what my friends had. I only had one friend with a Saturn, but he always had every system. He got me into Sega so I got a Dreamcast on 9/9/99. Mistake...
I installed a PS1 ODE recently after my optical drive died on mine. They are so great, I have about 175 games on a single card, and there are so many games getting translations and mods now. Literally just a few weeks ago the really weird first person japan only RPG Baroque just got a finished translation. It's a shame a lot of the original drives don't have much longevity, but for preservation's sake I'm so happy with mine.
I remember going to Movie Gallery as a kid and seeing the (small) section for the Saturn and 3DO and always being impressed with the 3D graphics and wanting to try one. Although I didn't know anyone who had one, and I think the only time I remember seeing a Saturn IRL was in Toys R Us. Before getting an SNES and N64 we even rented the whole console from Movie Gallery for a few days, which was pretty cool (you could rent various consoles and VCRs there. Not sure if Blockbuster did the same thing) -- we only had it for 3 days, so I would wake up at like 5:30am before school to get as much time in as possible. lol
LGR popping off with his first actual Saturn content yet, been watching since the 3DO Review and finally we're here
For just a second there, you did the greatest Duke Nukem impression I have ever heard 🤯😎
@stevetb7777
Жыл бұрын
At the moment I have a cold and can do a better Duke Nukem than John St John himself. LOL
Oh how I love your videos! Soothing vocal notes combined with infinite nostalgia make me feel content and happy
I came here from The Friendship Onion. I love how knowledgeable you are on these topics, it is very quite fascinating! Your videos are editted so amazingly and a ton of history about the consoles add a nice charm!
@LGR
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I hope you continue to enjoy!
I got a Saturn for my birthday as a kid back when it came out, and I agree with your points on the system being mysterious and fun. While I admit I didn't particularly enjoy the games, there's something just very unique about the Saturn.
For me the Saturn has a sort of “what could have been” mystique to it. It’s an interesting console that I wish Sega would have not made such bone headed business decisions
@SoftBank47
Жыл бұрын
From what I understand, SEGA wanted a games console that was tailored specifically to the Japanese market, and to be successful there (none of their previous home consoles had been, from the SG-1000 to the Mega Drive). The board in Japan was also not ok with the marketing tactics used by SEGA of America during the Genesis/MD days. There’s scuttlebutt that the 32X was there to sabotage SEGA of America.
@thetexanhusky
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Sega made so many baffling design choices and business & marketing decisions that, had they played it a bit more smarter, they could've lasted a bit more longer in the first-party developer market. If only we had time machines...
@aziskgarion378
Жыл бұрын
@@thetexanhusky Dreamcast was quite a conceptual machine, but dropped in too early with a weaker chipset and a worse propriety disc. It died before even PS2, Xbox and Game Cube dropped. I want one just because of it is network and linux capabilities. I have a PS2, but I lack the modules to setup a Linux.
i’ve been hella interested in getting a saturn lately so you making this video was a complete treat!
That is a beautiful CRT and the composite signal blends the pixels so wonderfully. This is such a nostalgic look and the woodgrain table just enhances the comfy setting. Stuff like this is why I always come back to LGR.
I spent a fortune last year on ODE's for my Dreamcast, PS1, and Saturn- including the Fenrir. Such a wonderful little device practically crucial for owning a Saturn these days given how expensive physical copies are and how much those old CD lasers struggle.
@Z64sports
Жыл бұрын
I'd rather buy Japanese games tbh. They're cheaper. Also as people selling run out of buyers the prices will go back down
I gotta say, I would welcome an HD port of many of these games. Astal, Dragon Force, and others. There were some fantastic games on the platform.
The Phar-More reference surprised; really takes me back.
Nice of you for the Adam K shout out. I've been watching him since 2012. His channel deserves so many more views then it gets
My experience of the Saturn was learning it existed about the time that the Dreamcast was launching.
I was too young when the Saturn was around to actually be aware of it, and living in Australia the launch of the Dreamcast was so terribly handled that I really only ever knew Sega as a third party publisher. When I later got into retro gaming for some reason I was always drawn to Sega hardware, perhaps because they had a kind of mystical "fallen empire" aspect to them. The Saturn has since become one of my top 5 consoles ever, there's a lot of gems that never left that machine & it has a very distinct "feel" that you don't get from consoles anymore. I currently own a JP model modded to play burned discs but I've been curious about the ODE stuff for a while, so this video was a welcome treat, cheers LGR.
@huldu
Жыл бұрын
It didn't stand a chance against the playstation. I remember it being very expensive for its time. Probably on par with something like the neo-geo that you only ever saw in game stores and you knew nobody with the actual console. Maybe the neo-geo console wasn't very expensive but something I do remember was going in to a gaming store and the games cost 2-3 times as much as a snes game. The last year or so I've watched sharpie play through the saturn game library(280~ north american), actually beating every single game without cheats, hints, tips or help. There are some good titles in there but a lot of trash imo(then again isn't that the case with every console?).
@seanmckelvey6618
Жыл бұрын
@@huldu Yeah, I certainly think the PS1 has a far stronger library by any metric, The Saturn failing in the marketplace is hardly surprising given the competition, and the internal problems at Sega certainly didn't help matters. That said, at the end of the day the Saturn does have a handful of pretty great games and is a neat historical curio.
I think the word you were looking for to describe the Saturn is "Mysterious". I've heard many others say the same. It truly was a mysterious console to the point it perplexes people who were born well after its time. Including me. I can't explain it, something about the way it renders 3D is just unique and oddly addicting to me. That's why me favorite games for it is Machinehead, Virtual Hydlide (fight me), Baroque, Ninpen Manmaru, etc. Same for the 3DO and the way it renders 3D graphics.
I am very happy to see the fan translation scene being pretty solid on the Saturn. So many games just did not make it outside of Japan. Now because of dedicated fans there are dozens of great games that English players can finally enjoy. I am hoping to see Princess Crown translated one day because that was basically Vanillaware's first game before Vanillaware was even an established company.
These optical drive emulators are a good way to preserve these older CD based systems which the drives eventually fail. I have a Dreamcast fitted with a GDEMU to also play roms with an SD card.
@Stout936
Жыл бұрын
It's not only the drives that fail. Early CD based games are prone to rot, so ODE's will long term be our only way to play on original hardware outside of reproductions
@SnakebitSTI
Жыл бұрын
Not just early CDs and not just CDs. I've lost a couple games on DVD to disc rot.
@RailRide
Жыл бұрын
Might be a silly question, but were you able to generate your GD images locally, or did you have to surf the high seas for them?
@Cyber_Akuma
Жыл бұрын
@@RailRide The problem with Dreamcast games is that pretty much the only practical way to read and dump them is through a Dreamcast itself.... and if you already removed the optical drive to replace it with an ODE.... (This is why I prefer the ODEs that let you keep the optical drive functional alongside them instead of completely replacing it)
@RailRide
Жыл бұрын
@@Cyber_Akuma Fortunately for me I still have all the GD's I ever bought still (roughly 2/3 of my collection still in shrinkwrap), and my DC's drive is still operable, but the reality of disc rot and such leads me to at least eyeball the possibility of rolling my games to SD card/s to save wear and tear on the optical drive. I wouldn't mind a solution that permits the use of both.
Saturn Duke 3D is all I had back in the day, and played the hell out of it. So the other versions seem like the weird ones to me. You should try the secret level it's a freaking weird toilet themed level and has an awesome, awesome exclusive song.
@Kboyer36
Жыл бұрын
Ah, Urea 51... That certainly was an experience finding that level.
@treehousemediamac274
Жыл бұрын
The easter egg tank game on Duke was a lot of fun with a group back in the day too
@HaakonAnderson
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, I found the song. One commenter said it sounds like Megadeath meets System of a Down, pretty perfect description. The band is called "Madcap." kzread.info/dash/bejne/iYqt2pidhbunobg.html
@accordiontv1
Жыл бұрын
If you destroy every single toilet in Saturn Duke 3D you unlock Deathtank which is an awesome game I spent hours playing!!!! I didn’t actually destroy every single shitter though, there is also a code you can enter 👍😎
Thank God that I'm not the only one who gets games just because "I saw it somewhere and it reminds me of that time"
YES! Sega Saturn video!! I have been waiting for LGR to do some Saturn stuff. This is probably my all-time favourite console. The import library is so insanely amazing. Elevator Action Returns is one of the most fun 2D games on the platform.
Seeing KayBee Toys brings me back...even as a kid I could tell when my parents were trying to avoid that section of the mall...
Surprised you didn’t cue up Nights Into Dreams. Absolutely gorgeous game that shows off the Saturn well
The setup with the CRT and PC speakers is wonderfully nostalgic. Loving videos at the new place.
1:41 man that review crew brings back some memories. Ahhh the old magazine days, checking the mail for all the new reading material.
Nice to see some V-Saturn love ❤️ Always looked nicer than Hitachi’s Hi-Saturns, although the Samsung Saturn beats it for cool points.
Daytona USA and Panzer Dragoon were both awesome games, so was virtua fighter, I don't have much memory of other Saturn games from my time with one
@RaysGamingChannel2003
Жыл бұрын
Daytona USA was a fun Sega Saturn Game
i never thought I'd be overcome by nostalgia by one of your videos, because I live in a different country and had a very different childhood, but I bought a Sega Saturn in '96 - with Astal, one of the weird games covered in this video, and man, the nostalgia this video gave me was in a whole different level, thanks for that.
Great video and enjoyed the shout out for Adam Koralik I've been watching his channel for around 10 years now and is a legend and without a doubt his channel needs your love and attention from everyone who loves retro gaming and console maintenance help. Thank you LGR for a great Saturn video 😀
Here's a quick tip for you (or anyone who reads this): You actually can go back to the ODE menu by using the reset button. You just have to hold the A button on the controller while doing so. You'll be brought back to the system menu while the ODE switches back to its menu.
@speedlolita
Жыл бұрын
Yo for real? Must try this.
I have never seen this before but seems interesting. I still have my original Sega Saturn (though I did have to replace the internal battery).
nice! i was always intrigued by the Sega Saturn after seeing a print ad for Panzer Dragoon when I was a young gun. around that time a friend of mine got a Saturn (when everybody else had N64) with Panzer Dragoon and I was blown away, very much took you to another time and place. very fond rainy day memories
Haha the 'Saturn bargain bins' hits way home! In England, every Woolworths / EB / GAME, had these bins and I swear nothing ever sold. Saturn consoles were eventually cleared at like £35.
@RheaIR
Жыл бұрын
How I got mine :D
I genuinely never saw a Saturn in the flesh despite being in my early/mid teens when it launched in Europe. It was that rare, it just got absolutely stomped by the Playstation - appreciate it did in most markets though. To this end I've always been interested in it, while my perception at the time was that it was an inferior console (and within its generation it is, at least in most aspects) it was still interesting just because of its rarity. Just like you it seemed like - and this is very weird given how huge the Mega Drive was in Europe - Sega totally dropped the ball on even marketing it. I don't remember demo units either, I'm sure they must have existed but I remember playing Playstation demo units before I got my own.
@tomvance3646
Жыл бұрын
Sega's strategy in the second half of the 90s was to release a new console or psuedo-console (Sega-CD, 32x) every year or two with no compatibility between them, causing a lot of damage to consumer's confidence in buying a Sega console and fracturing their playerbase among their various systems.
I love the Saturn, it's my favourite console of all time. As usual, PAL users got the short straw, although some games were optimised. These days I'm rocking a white Japanese console, I'd love a Fenrir or similar but just can't justify the price sadly.
LGR you inspire me. Never asking for likes, subs, bells, or ads, I strive to do the same for my simple little channel. Thank you for yet another great video!
Aaaand as always: Thank you VERY much for making this video!
I have a Saturn from Japan I imported because I loved the white console. It's modded to play CD-Rs, with an Action Replay etc. I was gonna get Fenrir but at this point I dunno if I'll need it anytime soon. I also got the Brook USB to Saturn adapter that also has Dreamcast output, so I can use any USB fight stick etc. The original controller for Saturn is amazing tho, but DC... An Xbox controller is nice lol. Check out the GBS Control to play Saturn via component (There's a Saturn to Model 2 Genesis adapter) over to VGA! It looks *amazing* on my flat glass AOC VGA CRT ;)
Another fun fact: The Saturn was the only console ever that actually rendered 3D using squares instead of the polygons we all know and are accustomed today. I think this is what gives the Saturn kind of its Saturn look you can't find anywhere else. All the ported saturn games later for PC are actually converted to use polygons, so def not the same.
@RuSrsbro
Жыл бұрын
Clint reviewed the Saturn graphics card that let PCs render squares just like it. What a strange way to do things
@ro8inmorgan
Жыл бұрын
@@RuSrsbro Remember this was the time when there was still no set standard for 3D graphics really. If the Saturn would have outsold the Playstation we would all have been looking at squares now probably haha.
@rommix0
Жыл бұрын
Squares also known as "quads" in 3D rendering terms.
@Clockwork2004
Жыл бұрын
The 3DO used quads as well.
I love my Saturn. The boot sequence is very captivating.
My cousin had a Sega Saturn. He had every Sega system. They were amazing and a staple of my memories from when we would visit.
I’ve had my Fenrir for a while and I love it. Very easy to install even for an idiot like me. Satiator is another easier option as it doesn’t require you to remove the disc drive, but it’s about twice as expensive. You can also arrange by folders, which will speed up navigation for you (rather than having just one massive list)
My favorite system of all time, and severely underrated. Sony waged an anti Sega campaign, throwing money around to various game magazines to smear Sean's games. On many occasions I witnessed reviews that were completely biased from many reviewers, when the Saturn versions of games were superior in every way. Symphony of the night should have been the superior version on the Saturn, but the Saturn got a half assed game from komami. It was a superior system in every way, especially with the ram expansion Providing arcade perfect ports.
Man, both the Saturn and Dreamcast have such neat designs. I wish I had more nostagia for both consoles. I mean, I had a lot, but a few years ago, when emulation became good enough, I played and replayed a few games and then... just kinda abandoned it. But no regrets. Also, would be nice to see some more game and console related videos from you. I know your channel sorta moved away from that over the years, but it's always interesting when you tackle the subject again (and I noticed that you've been doing it a bit more lately, just keep it up ^_^).
I've only heard two people talk about kit bashing on youtube, you and Mr Adam Savage. Some good company to keep, for sure!
Someone used to make an ODDE for the 360 and it's impossible to find nowadays. I really wish I could find one!
I always wonder what SEGA could have done to save the Saturn, but I think the system was doomed from the beginning with the dual CPU setup compared to the PS1's single chip. Also, no built in debugger for the developer kit made it such a damn pain to work with for 3rd parties. Most companies used just 1 chip on the system because they could only feasibly debugg one chip at a time.
@CaptainZombeh
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The Shenmue prototype gives a good approximation of what the Saturn could really do.
@supernintendo182
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I think Sega should've stuffed a cut-down model 2 board in the machine or something.
@silvervalleystudios2486
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That hardware is so complex it was almost impossible to emulate Saturn games. I think the Polymega is the only machine that has successfully emulated the Saturn.
@AvengerII
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@@supernintendo182 The Model 1-3 boards were VERY expensive. They were specially designed for Sega arcade games by Martin Marietta (now Lockheed Martin), a defense contractor! I can remember seeing those Model 1-3 arcade cabinets fully loaded costing around $15,000-$20,000 EACH. That's probably why you didn't see them in too many arcades outside of big cities.
@supernintendo182
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@@AvengerIIYeah, those boards were super-advanced at the time, especially the Model 3 board: 6th-generation graphics in 1996, and it was the same month the Nintendo 64 came out, no less. The only Model 2 game I ever saw was House of the Dead at the local bowling alley, unfortunately they got rid of all of their arcade cabinets (funny, I thought it looked like a Saturn game, this was in 2005). But surely Sega could've commissioned a cut-down cost-reduced GPU roughly based on the Model 2's specs from Lockheed or something. Honestly, the fact that they didn't design the Saturn around 3D at all and only added 3D support at the last minute was very stupid of them. I think Sega thought 3D graphics would be restricted to arcades for the foreseeable future or something. Silicon Graphics actually offered to develop a GPU for the Saturn, and Sega of America was on board, but Sega of Japan was like "ew no". So Sega of America CEO Tom Kalinske gave Silicon Graphics Nintendo's phone number.
Bringing up Phar-Mor brings me back to memories of renting a bunch of games there for really cheap from their rental area. My brother and I loved it.
Beautiful machine. Also missed out on this one back in the day, and been eyeing it ever since.
My 2nd fav model after the regular JP model 1 Also, I'd recommend the Satiator over the Fenrir
Wow, the minor rotation that the camera does when turning in duke was trippy. I don't have a problem with FPS games normally, but that would probably make me sick.
Wild. I have *almost* exactly the same setup. A model 1 V-Saturn with the access light and a Fenrir installed. However, it's a 20 pin drive (I think the 21 pin Fenrir was still in development so I needed a model 1 at the time). Modern bootleg Action Replay 4-in-1s do work with it but occasionally video stutters or the Fenrir menu refuses to boot if you've reset and loaded a bunch of games in a row with it (this might've been fixed with a firmware update tho). This was cool to see and I'm happy you seem to enjoy it!!
This is why I adore this channel so! You have the most finest of taste Clint! I recommend a Brook adapter for using modern controllers and arcade sticks. X-Men Vs. Street Fighter is the game that made me scoop a Saturn up!
All I got to say is, praise be to ODEs. Not only has it made it so we no longer need to pay some POS off eBay but for those of us with limited space, we don’t need to have a bunch of physical media around us.
One of the original creators of Sonic 3D Blast recently went back and fixed a bunch of things to the way he wanted it and put it out. Look for “Sonic 3d Blast Director’s Cut”.
@devonwilliams5738
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That's just the Genesis version though, not the Saturn one.
i got one for christmas when it came out. and i loved it. i ended up selling it to my brother and he sold it to a friend. its the only system i regret selling off. i wish i still had it
Videos like this always leave me conflicted. I have no fascination with the Saturn, despite growing up along side of it. But the way you present these videos, the music chosen and your narration makes me wistful for the era this Saturn came from. The only thing you could cover that brings a stronger sense of deja vu and nostalgia is anything Packard Bell, honestly.
The Saturn and Dreamcast both would have really shaped the gaming industry so differently, so underrated, both were kind of Mythical in some areas.
@acedotcom
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Can you imagine there is a universe out there where Sega never happened?
16:05 Hell yeah! Good ol' Sonic R! Yeah, indeed, this game could been better if TT had a few more months of development, but regardless, it's a cult classic! And it's soundtrack ft. the voice of TJ Davis says it all.
I love the Japanese crossover stories! And mods. Thanks for brightening my morning!
Clint. You are absolutely in for the time of your life. The Saturn library is monumental, exciting and wholly unique. Have fun!!! 💖
I believe the optical drive is the most unreliable part of the machine, the emulator will make this fantastic machine last forever.
@PopeTheRevXXVIII
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I've never seen a Saturn CD drive fail Ever
@devonwilliams5738
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@@PopeTheRevXXVIII They can get weak enough to not read burns though.
@PopeTheRevXXVIII
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@@devonwilliams5738 Cheap CDRs kill lasers only use archival CDRs
@rik6725
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@@PopeTheRevXXVIII probably bought the wrong second had units then. Did not know that. What’s the science behind it?
@PopeTheRevXXVIII
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@@rik6725 I don't know
Blame Sega themselves for the Saturn being obscure for the time. I'm sure you heard the legend, but for those unaware, Sega released the Saturn the DAY they announced it at E3, alienating stores since they didn't have time to prepare and, according to many gaming experts, destroying the company
@houstonhelicoptertours1006
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"destroying the company" keep spouting nonsense 😂
@GamingDelight
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It didn't destroy the company, but it did kill any chance Sega had of competing in the console wars.
@devonwilliams5738
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Blame the JP branch for that. Sega of America president Tom Kalinske wanted the release date pushed back for a stronger launch lineup, but Sega of Japan told him to launch it early or he was fired.
@rommix0
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@@houstonhelicoptertours1006 Yeah no kidding. Leave that tabloid garbage for the headlines. SEGA is doing fine especially with two successful Sonic movies under their belt.
I'm just happy to hear people talk about the Saturn : ) looks great!
I love your kitbash! For a Viper it's pretty understated!
Phar-mor! That unlocked a core memory! The HQ was near where I grew up. Unfortunately, the owner was corrupt, went to jail, and the company folded.
@LGR
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Well now I gotta look up what put the company under, ha
When you mentioned Pharmore, a flood of nostalgia came to me. My mom would take us to there and Giant Eagle to rent games and movies. And the best part was that they were attached. So 2 video and game rental stores were in the same building. Also I think its funny and ironic that you only remember the Saturn being sold in the store that initially refused to carry it due to the release debacle. Thats great. I bought one late in the generation for super cheap at a flea market. Then I sold it like a dumb A in 2012 after the price started to go way up. That was the last gaming system I sold that I didn't have 2 of. I wish I could slap old me for that.
Been watching Koralik for years! Cool to see a shout-out here
I remember a shop in the mall we used to frequent had a boxes of them in the window and you could see the back of the box, I remember the first time I saw it, I was pretty young, and I saw the pictures of virtua fighter and daytona and I was just blown away, but it was sooo expensive at release, I did end up getting a PS1 eventually, but something about the Saturn, like you say it was mystical and mythical. I ended up making a friend that had one and we used to play Area 51 a lot, I thought it was such a cool game, but the PS1 with its excellent Doom port and classics like Ridge Racer and Die Hard Trilogy will always hold a special place in my heart, it was as coming of age for gaming, going into the 3d realm and was coinciding with my own adolescents. Then when I was 14, in 1999, I got totally spoilt when my parents brought home a brand new, top of the line IBM Aptiva. Some of the best memories of my life.
NICE! Friday and a video. Thats goooooooooood
This is fascinating. Thanks Clint!
Now that's a long waited video I wanted to see
Very interesting video and content might have a look for one of these console
Hermoso video Clint , gracias por mostrar a los que no pudimos tener una Saturn en su momento . Para ver esos grandiosos juegos.
You really need to add Guardian Heroes to your collection. it's probably my favorite Saturn game, and a must-have.
Fighters Megamix is one of the best 3D fighters on the Saturn.
Took me a second, but I appreciate that bit about two shades of grey. Low key and delivered perfectly.
as a long time sub of Adam Koralik I can certainly vouch for man's content, lots of good retro stuff and guides for cleaning of older consoles if you got a unit in need of one, even de-yellowing is possible
dude, you are my favorite youtube channel
Ahhh, a trip down memory lane... Nice review....
Adam deserves a lot more credit and KZread love for his super in depth videos.
@BushidoBrownSama
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figure it out