Class 42 /43 were Warships, class 52 were Westerns and class 35 were Hymeks, as they were "non standard" they were withdrawn too early

@EJOttersberg

16 сағат бұрын

They were too expensive when ordered and too expensive during overhaul. NBL/MAN closed 1962, NBL/Voith in 1963 and the Maybach contract with Birstol-Siddley was stopped by Maybach. BR had to buy spares for hydraulics from West Germany. The Deutsche Mark was too expensive in comparison with the British Pound, the import taxes were far too high. So, sadly, the "Standardisation Plan of 1967" said: 'Non Standard'

I can vaguely remember my dad being called out to help with the survivors. He was a member of the Salvation Army at Ealing.

Trains stop at RAILWAY Stations!

@johnjephcote7636

3 күн бұрын

We just called them 'stations. as well. 'Train stations' are as crazy as 'station stops'. It's all newspeak treating us as fools. Apparently, any engine or loco is a 'train' mowadays.

@SDH-g8g

2 күн бұрын

Yeah, and buses stop at ROAD stations! No, wait...

@animaltvi9515

2 күн бұрын

Don't get so upset about it. People call them what they want. Personally I call them train stations as its were you catch a train.. . You catch a bus at a bus station or a tram at a tram station. ..

@IAMPLEDGE

23 сағат бұрын

@@animaltvi9515 you see that dog over there? I call it a cat. I call them what I want.

I was there about three hours after it happened standing onthe bridge near by, i was 23 then, the steam cranes were amazing to watch lifting the wreckage, the loco was on its side, the whole place was quite eerie at the time, and thats all i am going to say

You said it was 1978, dont you mean 1973?

@adp5R3x

3 күн бұрын

a 3 is like an 8 , just cut in half longwise 'an honest mistake

In the UK its usually referred to as the railway station with the track running true it sometimes referred to as the permanent way... Train station has probably crept in from the US 😀

@None-zc5vg

3 күн бұрын

Sloppy language and sloppy-everything-else have more than 'crept in' from the U.S.A.

@cedriclynch

Күн бұрын

There is another possible way in which "train station" has come into use, that originated in London rather than the USA. I have heard people referring to London Underground stations as "tube stations" as opposed to British Rail stations which were referred to as "train stations"

To me, being able to lock the peardrop safety catch open is a big red flag, I don't think you should be able to disable a safety feature like that, surely you should just swing it away when the door is being opened or closed.

It's mph not Kilometers

The Class 52 Western could accommodate 620 people? Good god, that would be a squeeze around the engines and transmission 😄

@garethmatthews7939

3 күн бұрын

where did he think the train was in india and not in the uk has they traven on the roof or hang on to the side

@johnjephcote7636

3 күн бұрын

Even with greater clearances on the Western Region (legacy of the broad gauge).

@hoagy_ytfc

3 күн бұрын

@@johnjephcote7636 You are confusing loading gauge with track gauge

@cedriclynch

Күн бұрын

​@@garethmatthews7939There is for some reason a picture of an Indian Railways carriage No. 15119 on the screen for about 15 seconds around 1:40.

@garethmatthews7939

Күн бұрын

@@cedriclynch so i was not seeing things

Just after this, all maintenance documents were marked on the top of the page, persons signing off work is responsible for cover / panel security . I worked with Mr Wiggins's son .

Highly interesting video showing how a small mistake can make a big disaster.

They aren't Train Stations, they are Railway Stations!

@cedriclynch

Күн бұрын

In the 1960s my parents would have regarded the use of the expression "train station" as evidence of illiteracy. Now I see that the station in my home town Potters Bar (Hertfordshire) is officially a Train Station; it says so in big letters next to the entrance.

@andrewchaston503

23 сағат бұрын

Hear Hear Hear. Greater Anglia uses Train station. Drives me nuts!.

@andrewchaston503

23 сағат бұрын

So right you have limited intelligence if you use Train Station. Makes me shudder

8:13 "For some reason" ??? The derailment would be instantaneous, no time for a brake application.

0:11 "But what the driver nor the crew members don't realise". This implies they *do* realise it.

That battery box door had one damn strong hinge.

Can you record paragraph by paragraph rather than sentence by sentence, its rather annoying. Its like loads of sections spliced together.

That's not a pic of Old Oak Common, Peaks didnt run on Western Region in those days, more likely its Cricklewood Depot

@daystatesniper01

4 күн бұрын

It's Toton

@christianmalford1363

3 күн бұрын

No Class 56’s in 1973!!

@user-xh3lz9xt4l

3 күн бұрын

@@christianmalford1363 shouldn't have any now of that crap loco

@user-xh3lz9xt4l

3 күн бұрын

@@christianmalford1363 where do you think it was taken then, I'll discount Old Oak Common or Willesden.

@christianmalford1363

3 күн бұрын

I’d probably say Toton given the motive power - definitely not OOC. Not sure of the relevance of the foreign looking coach at 1:56? Recommend the actual accident report which is available on line for an accurate account of what occurred.

No, diesels don't 'hit the rails,' don't 'chug along' nor any of the other lazy tabloid phrases.

@johnjephcote7636

3 күн бұрын

Newspapers used to state that even steam engines 'chugged'. Stupid.

@SDH-g8g

2 күн бұрын

What a tragic comment to make.

@EE12CSVT

2 күн бұрын

@@SDH-g8g Nope, but thanks for taking the time

@SDH-g8g

2 күн бұрын

@@EE12CSVT Don't thank me, I've done nothing for you.

@EE12CSVT

Күн бұрын

@@SDH-g8g Did I say you were helping me? Nope.

'putting lives on the line' - always the unimaginative puns like a tabloid hack

@TommyWylie

3 күн бұрын

It was probably unintentional.

I've still got a newspaper about this crash. I think it's a broadsheet Daily Express, but it's up the shed, and I can't be arsed to look for it.

Rest in peace all who lost their lives🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏. Wonder what happened to D1007s name/number plates.

I'm sure the class 52 didn't have a maximum capacity of 622, that would depend on the rolling stock it pulled. Trying to get that number of people on the locowould be s ridiculous.

Please do the Quintinshill rail disaster.

the westerns were finally withdrawn in 1977

Excellent content - thanks for posting

@TrainHorrors

4 күн бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏼

Westerns were all gone by Feb' 77 just saying

@animaltvi9515

2 күн бұрын

They are what ever people want to call them. What does it matter ? Personally, I call the train stations. Train stations for trains bus stations for buses. .

Remember this well. Awful.

It's the 1973 train crash not the 1978 you said 1978 who is 1973

Poor editing of good content. Hardly a breath between sentences!

@SDH-g8g

2 күн бұрын

On the flipside, if the video is deemed too long, nobody watches it. He's got 14k views with less than 1k subs - that's a good result.

I love your content. I'm really surprised how good the quality of your videos is for such a small channel! Your voice is really nice and it made me fall asleep when auto-playing your videos, haha.

"1A82" is the trains timetabled reporting number, not a type of train. Other such basic errors caused me to give up after watching one (1) minute of the video.

That drop-down battery-box flap was an accident waiting to happen from Day Number One: a small child might have questioned the lack of sense in securing the flap with a single, small catch that could easily be misaligned or knocked open.

@johnjephcote7636

3 күн бұрын

Better to place a catch at the bottom and then gravity assists even a loose door.

At 05:03. Where in this country have they ever employed moveable frogs in crossings (points)? Way back in the 1830s we had stub points but I have never seen frogs move.

1A82 sounds like a headcode, not a type or class of train.

@garethmatthews7939

Күн бұрын

yes 1A82 is a head code

Class 52 top speed: 90 mph. There, fixed it. Highest recorded speed was 104 mph and some claims abound of 110 mph.

the photo 3:39 is of a eastern/midland reagion has the class 56 did not come in until early 80's late 70 after the westerns were gone some did come to the western reagion for the port talbot iron ore trains but that was not until the 1980's

I have the speedometer from the leading cab (B end) of "Talisman"

Don't you ever take a breath?

@macstar2010

2 күн бұрын

Very annoyingly put together

What’s with all these speeds in kilometres an hour? Not many people do not really know how fast that is.

@xr6lad

4 күн бұрын

Yea. Not many countries use kms. Just 179 countries out of 196 across the world. I think most WILL know what kms mean.

@jamesgrey6217

3 күн бұрын

​@@xr6ladJust how many of those countries acculty matter?

@grahambuckerfield4640

3 күн бұрын

@@jamesgrey6217 Well the US uses both, other large countries/economies metric. Some in America like to say that imperial got them to the Moon, Von Braun and his team were educated in Metric so in reality, at least for technical uses though not in media reports, metric too.

@EE12CSVT

3 күн бұрын

​@@xr6ladBritain's railways have always used mph not kph. Kph is only used on two lines equipped with ETCS.

@grahamallen1970

3 күн бұрын

112kph =70mph😊

I was on it.

@marknestbox

3 күн бұрын

So what?!

@ogribiker8535

3 күн бұрын

​@@marknestboxWhat is wrong with you?

@marknestbox

3 күн бұрын

@@ogribiker8535 Just another troll making a false claim to fame. If anyone had been involved they would want to elaborate, expand on the event, how the experience affected them, include details, and a lot more, but no, just the usual 'I was there!'

I absolutely HATE artificial voices.

@TrainHorrors

2 күн бұрын

It’s actually my voice ahha… but I’ll try make it sound less ‘AI’ going forward

Just for info, railway practice is to always use NATO phonetic alphabet and individual numbers. So the train would be " one-alpha-eight-two.

The video starts out stating this took place in 1973. Then you tell us it took place in 1978. What is wrong w/you?

@shartbimpson

2 күн бұрын

maybe the video took 5 years to make smart guy

@SDH-g8g

2 күн бұрын

Maybe he's a human who made a mistake? It's a likable quality, unlike being a wanker in the YT comments.

@P0RT3RS1GN4LM4N

2 күн бұрын

He obviously made a mistake. It's unfortunate that he didn't check his recording before publishing it.

@SDH-g8g

2 күн бұрын

@@P0RT3RS1GN4LM4N And yet people can't look past a simple mistake without getting tragic in the comments.

Pretty good video I recon. Yes there were one or two gaffs but nothing like the crap from the BBC etc. who make loads of mistakes reporting on anything to do with railways.

As a NW London resident at the time, I don't recall tbis. I remember the Papa-India aircrash at Heathrow. But not this. Strange. One thing is common, the poor safety procedures back then: the poorly equipped and trained emergency services: the poor communication facilities... people may laugh, but the various safety legislation that followed has saved numerous lives that would otherwise have been lost. The later Moorgate, Hayes and Paddington crashes and the croydon tram crash indicate there is still plenty of work to be done on safety. And in the aerospace sector, Boeing are still learning the hard way.

Good vids except all the metric nonsense. It means nothing to an ol dinosaur like me after a lifetime in heavy engineering, where whitworth threads & spanner’s reigned supreme!! Tis mph, yards, feet n inches or nothing! I end up converting it back to a reality which has meaning. Even £ goes back to £sd. 😂 When common sense & thinking for yourself was allowed to exist in 🇬🇧.🙂

@grahambuckerfield4640

3 күн бұрын

School 1973-82, all metric used.

@davemitchell9941

3 күн бұрын

@@grahambuckerfield4640 tech school 1970-75 & college 75-80, all imperial. Cast a glance @ mm. As a dockyard apprentice I was issued with metric spanners etc, never used lol the RN was all imperial. Still all nice n shiny to this day🤣. A lifetime of working with steam engines & only the injector cones were ever mm (designed in Belgium). Order steel plate tis 16’x8’ or 8’x4’ sheets still !! Lol Can’t count the number of times I had to convert 3/8,1/2,5/8 etc to metric cos the bloke on the other end of phone didn’t know wot twas. Laughable😂 they knew wot 8’x4’ was tho 🙄. There u go a potted history which kept us laughing against the odds!! 🙂

@Battismore-Blue

3 күн бұрын

Plus saying Train Station not Railway Station

@SDH-g8g

2 күн бұрын

Yeah, damn nonsense, doing everything in 10s, 100s and 1000s! Much better to use 12 and 14 and 3 and stuff. Makes much more sense...

@davemitchell9941

2 күн бұрын

@@SDH-g8g glad u agree 😂 Them ol 10’s etc don’t make the ol grey matter have to work too hard!!