The 1800 Pattern Baker Rifle: Shooting with Paper Cartridges - PART ONE

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The first of a two part series on Service ammunition used with the Baker Rifle.

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  • @LoreCrom
    @LoreCrom7 жыл бұрын

    When Evil stalks upon the land I'll neither hold nor stay me hand But fight to win a better day, Over the hills and far away.

  • @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819

    @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819

    5 жыл бұрын

    E B ah, the regimental march for the 95th Rifles.

  • @nayrespect1146

    @nayrespect1146

    5 жыл бұрын

    Celer et Audax

  • @Deranged_ottoman

    @Deranged_ottoman

    4 ай бұрын

    All the hills and glory, might never be the same. spanning flanders portugal and spain (probably wrong)

  • @anonymousanonymous9370
    @anonymousanonymous93707 жыл бұрын

    this, cap and ball, tfbtv and c&rsenal are the best firearms channels on youtube. This are superb videos you make.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @scottydu81

    @scottydu81

    2 жыл бұрын

    Demo Ranch?

  • @jordanstewart2455

    @jordanstewart2455

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@scottydu81 when it comes to entertainment demo ranch is the gold standard.

  • @kaidog9528
    @kaidog95288 жыл бұрын

    O'er the hills and far away. through Flanders,Portugal and Spain. King George commands and we obey. damn the red ballons and fire away.

  • @georgecrabb3061

    @georgecrabb3061

    8 жыл бұрын

    Hagman himself could not have done better.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Kai Dog You're a poet and you didn't even know it...

  • @earendilmorote2277

    @earendilmorote2277

    5 жыл бұрын

    Remember Cartagena de Indias

  • @keithorbell9500

    @keithorbell9500

    5 жыл бұрын

    The original third line is "Queen Anne commands", the song comes from the War of the Spanish Succesion at the start of the 18th Century. Just saying 😉

  • @terrorfire8505

    @terrorfire8505

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@keithorbell9500 but in Sharpe its Ling George commands and we obey over the hills and far away

  • @StGene22494
    @StGene224948 жыл бұрын

    The rifle marches playing in the background whenever you do a video on the Baker is a nice touch.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +MacComie Glad you like them.. I do too... Though they aren't period and came along much after the Napoleonic era....

  • @MadrasArsenal
    @MadrasArsenal8 жыл бұрын

    Also, I love the ending!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Madras Arsenal Haha..

  • @xlDeathlxJosey

    @xlDeathlxJosey

    5 жыл бұрын

    PENIS

  • @michaelgenovese2175
    @michaelgenovese21756 жыл бұрын

    The overall design and construction of the paper and patched cartridge used here (by yourself and from the historical references) have given me an inspiration for mass producing my own for my percussion muzzleloader, a .50 cal Hawken St.Louis rifle. Hope to see more videos on your channel soon.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cool!

  • @Sheerwater909
    @Sheerwater9098 жыл бұрын

    As usual, thanks for making. Another fascinating presentation.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +John Brooks Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks.

  • @sithompson74
    @sithompson748 жыл бұрын

    Another great watch. Always look forward to seeing your videos

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Simon Thompson Thanks for the kind words. Cheers.

  • @Hunter4042012
    @Hunter40420128 жыл бұрын

    Another excellent video. You would have to be one of the most accurate and informational video makers in the weapons category on YT. Thanks from New Zealand.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Hunter4042012 Thanks very much for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed it. You are welcome from Canada!

  • @haato3053
    @haato30533 жыл бұрын

    I like how you end an informative video with a bit of humour. Great content as always 👌

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @string-bag
    @string-bag8 жыл бұрын

    Well done, beautiful rifle. Thanks!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +K Grant Thank you very much! You're welcome.

  • @geegaw14
    @geegaw147 жыл бұрын

    Awesome and informative as usual. great job. I look forward to the follow up video to this one. I guess I need to start saving my pennies - just have to get myself one of the kits so I too can have an example of my all time favourite flintlock firearm.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    Working on it now... the other cartridges are proving to be a bit of chore to design and make.... all in the name of history though... Cheers.

  • @macanix8072
    @macanix80728 жыл бұрын

    Another very interesting video, thanks... And the sneaky enemy 'balloon termination' at end was hilarious.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Mac Anix It was bugging me all day, blowing in the wind... purposeless, whimsical, dancing in the breeze.... Taunting me and taxing my concentration... Had to be done...

  • @charlesinglin
    @charlesinglin8 жыл бұрын

    Informative and interesting, as always. Thanks.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Charles Inglin You are, as always, welcome!.. :-)

  • @diktatoralexander88
    @diktatoralexander888 жыл бұрын

    You just made my Friday Rob! Yes, I know you uploaded on Tuesday, but I just saw this video today.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Diktator Alexander Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @sorichar
    @sorichar8 жыл бұрын

    Thoroughly enjoyed this video and am looking forward to part 2.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +sorichar Me too! Just have to brainstorm some cartridge ideas...

  • @bernerbar7886
    @bernerbar78868 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. Yet again very informative.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Berner Bär You are welcome! Cheers.

  • @stephansnider2982
    @stephansnider29828 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great and Insightful video sir!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Stephan Pedersen You are welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @BennettIsAmazing
    @BennettIsAmazing8 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff yet again!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +BennettC Cheers!

  • @TraditionalBlackPowder
    @TraditionalBlackPowder8 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, i enjoy the history that tells us why and how it came to be.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +TraditionalBlackPowder Glad you found it interesting. Thanks.

  • @copalpagan2407
    @copalpagan24077 жыл бұрын

    these videos are fantastic!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed them!

  • @35southkiwi16
    @35southkiwi165 жыл бұрын

    Well presented and very interesting. Thanks for posting :-)

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @user-yf4jx6te2b
    @user-yf4jx6te2b2 жыл бұрын

    When I saw a video about the Baker Rifle, I naturally gave the order to click. That's my style, sir!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you kindly!

  • @JohnDoeSmith08
    @JohnDoeSmith086 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for using a rest! Another excellent video. Subscribed today!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the subby. Glad you find things interesting!

  • @clarkkocurek
    @clarkkocurek6 жыл бұрын

    New subscriber here after seeing you on C&Rsenal. Love your videos. Thanks for the great info on these historic arms

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nice to have you along! Thanks!

  • @jonqdoe2352
    @jonqdoe23527 жыл бұрын

    Awesome presentation .

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @MadrasArsenal
    @MadrasArsenal8 жыл бұрын

    Nice video as always. It is interesting the difference in accuracy in patched vs cartridge in the rifle, I actually got the opposite results from my smooth bore Brown Bess.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Madras Arsenal Thanks Kurt. Interesting results with your BB.... I'll get to mine one day..

  • @MrTacons
    @MrTacons8 жыл бұрын

    thank you for this video, my knowledge of paper cartridges comes only from watching the Sharp movies. So seeing the paper cartridge used as wadding, and the lack of spitting the ball in was an eye opener, and interesting.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +MrTacons Sharpe has done lots for the era.... Good and bad.... The books and shows have cultivated a keen interest in the era but unfortunately, they are not at all historical when it comes to weapons handling... Good stories though!

  • @JohnnyH1982
    @JohnnyH19828 жыл бұрын

    You are a gentleman and a scholar, excellent work my friend. I hope the weather is well on your coast, its all over the map both good and bad here :)

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +JohnnyH1982 A bit of the same here... Some good days and some horrendous... Frankie MacDonald has seen fit to comment on it so you know it has been bad. Great to hear from you. Hope all is well. Had a chance to chat with Tom the other day.. Great to hear from him too!

  • @Tigershark-qy2gq
    @Tigershark-qy2gq3 жыл бұрын

    You have the most amazing firearms!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @torturedtale49
    @torturedtale498 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating. Again. Thanks.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Tortured Tale You are very welcome.

  • @tjh44961
    @tjh449618 жыл бұрын

    Always enjoy your videos. And to echo Mr. Murphy below, I too am looking forward to one of the new Whitworths.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Tom Herbert Thanks Tom. They should do to re-generate interest in Mid victorian small bore shooting, for sure.

  • @paulchandler9646
    @paulchandler96468 жыл бұрын

    Excellent stuff.Beautifull rifle you have there.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +albert johnson Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @SamEEE12
    @SamEEE128 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy the shit out of your videos. Many thanks.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +SamEEE12 Hahaha... Thanks!

  • @sandmanhh67
    @sandmanhh678 жыл бұрын

    Another great vid mate and a big thanks Also a thanks for inspiring me, with your Snider vid, to buy my first non-flintlock gun for my collection at an auction last weekend - an 1865 .577 Snider action rifle by London Arms Co., 35,1/2 ins full stocked three banded barrel Its a real beauty in lovely condition - shame of it is it will only ever sit on the wall with my other guns - no firing them for me as Im a Brit. Cheers again mate and looking forward to more in the Snider series.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +sandmanhh67 Nice to hear about your Snider... You should really make some enquiries at a local club and jump through hoops to get your licence... You won't regret it.

  • @Norton16hbig4
    @Norton16hbig48 жыл бұрын

    Awesome as usual! thanks!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Norton16hbig4 You are, as usual, welcome.

  • @453421abcdefg12345
    @453421abcdefg123458 жыл бұрын

    Another really excellent reference video, you must have put a lot of research into this one, and it shows. Many thanks for your efforts!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Englishman French A bit of reading for sure... Glad you enjoyed it, EF. Thanks.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    Anshula Clemens Are you going to make money with it?.... :-)

  • @moolightstarlight9223

    @moolightstarlight9223

    8 жыл бұрын

    No. I just want to be able to have it as reference for whenever I don't have Internet.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    Anshula Clemens Then, yes.

  • @AldanFerrox
    @AldanFerrox8 жыл бұрын

    I always liked the Baker. It is a really good looking weapon, and it was also pretty effective during its time.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +AldanFerrox Me too!

  • @raincoast2396
    @raincoast23968 жыл бұрын

    Great parting shot!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Rain Coast Thanks!

  • @danellis4437
    @danellis44378 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video. I cannot wait for you to start in with the 1776 rifle!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Dan Ellis Thanks..... Now you've just reminded me how far behind on that project I am.... :-)

  • @properjob2311
    @properjob2311 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation. As Sharpe says "All you have to do is stand, and fire three rounds a minute. Now you and I know you can fire three rounds a minute...... But can you stand?" :)

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha!

  • @joerandella2526
    @joerandella25268 жыл бұрын

    Very nice content Ser!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Joe Randella Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers.

  • @ReonMagnum
    @ReonMagnum8 жыл бұрын

    Excellent! Sharpe approves of the Baker! Kicks the American Long Rifle's arse any day of the week!

  • @EldarKinSlayer

    @EldarKinSlayer

    7 жыл бұрын

    The British, including one Battalion of the 95th did not find it that way at New Orleans.

  • @Guntank214

    @Guntank214

    7 жыл бұрын

    A comparison between the 1800 Baker and the 1803 Harper's Ferry (the weapon of choice for the comparatively short lived US Regiment of Rifleman) would make a very interesting video indeed.

  • @mpetersen6

    @mpetersen6

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Guntank214 No, the Baker vs the Hawken

  • @tomservo5347

    @tomservo5347

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mpetersen6 The Hawken was produced for the large game (particularly bears) that trappers were running into out West. Hence it was typically a heavy caliber, like a .54 with a heavier bullet than the Pennsylvania or Kentucky rifle. Trying to compare the Baker to the long rifle isn't quite fair as one was built just for military use and the other for hunting and target shooting.

  • @johnspizziri1919
    @johnspizziri1919 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @alexunfiltered5756
    @alexunfiltered57566 жыл бұрын

    I love your Baker Rifle

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I do too!

  • @alexunfiltered5756

    @alexunfiltered5756

    6 жыл бұрын

    Were you in the Navy at one point?

  • @pricklydingus8604
    @pricklydingus86048 жыл бұрын

    A cracking good video, sir.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Eric Brown Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks.

  • @murphysmuskets
    @murphysmuskets8 жыл бұрын

    Great shooting! We all seem to be getting pretty consistent results with our rb tests. The Baker's group seems a little wider than I was able to get, however my '42 has a much longer barrel. I can't wait to get my hands on one of Pedersolis new Whitworths!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +murpheysmuskets Thanks Murph. That Whitworth will make for a few good videos, eh?! I imagine that the longer barrel (and the percussion lock especially) would make for a much better grouping.

  • @DasLamm68
    @DasLamm683 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting when You visit the Waterloo battlefield. The KGL units used the paper cartridges when they defended La Haye Sainte and a little far from that the 95th was shooting off the French artillerymen on long distances with the patched bullets.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure that every rifleman had a mixture of ammunition. Indeed, the defence of La Haye Saint was for the most part desperate and close range... as for the the 95th in the sandpit, the Grand Battery was a bit too far away for rifle shooting, but certainly, as D'Erlon attacked there would have been ample targets...

  • @EldarKinSlayer
    @EldarKinSlayer7 жыл бұрын

    You and Duelist1954 have infected me, I just ordered my first Flintlock Rifle kit. My second one will be a TRS Baker, but my first has family significance and is similar to what the 95th would have faced in New Orleans. I ordered one of Jim Kiblers beautiful Southern Mountain Rifles, it is a Western North Carolina styled Rifle while Andy Jackson's Tennessee Rifles and my family would have used the similar East Tennessee style rifles. Anyway I now have your peculiar disease and I hope you are happy ;)

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well done, that man.... you will have hours and hours of the most frustrating, rewarding and smile-inducing fun.

  • @michaelgilbreath7696
    @michaelgilbreath76967 жыл бұрын

    I sometimes use paper cartridges in my early Virginia flintlock rifle. I dip the ball end of the paper cartridge in SPG lube. Then when loading, I ram the ball down with the lube dipped paper around the ball. This helps some with windage and fouling, but I still wipe the bore between shots. Groups are very good at 35-40 yards. Never tried them at longer ranges. Average spread is about 2-3 inches. 50 cal. 175 grain ball with 60 grains ffg.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    The lube will certainly help, especially if the windage is tight. In a military context, there wasn't any used on cartridges, though. Outside of historical shooting, anything goes, of course! Cheers.

  • @davidtong2776
    @davidtong27764 жыл бұрын

    What handy little rifle

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    4 жыл бұрын

    Part of the reason it was chosen.

  • @ironstarofmordian7098
    @ironstarofmordian70985 жыл бұрын

    Production of paper cartridges AKA Origami for men. :)

  • @ronlowry7073

    @ronlowry7073

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @shawndavis2616

    @shawndavis2616

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @book3100
    @book31003 жыл бұрын

    That's a nice looking rifle. I dont have any experience with any of the British or Canadian arms. I'm from Maryland and used to running around the Pennsylvania and Virginia woods with a long rifle, a Hawken or at times a Zouave rifle of American Civil War time. I'm in Kansas now, however. Just came across your channel, very enjoyable.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear! Thank you. Please spread the word if it's something that appeals! Cheers.

  • @book3100

    @book3100

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@britishmuzzleloaders Certainly will!

  • @user-yf4bx4zv5b
    @user-yf4bx4zv5b4 жыл бұрын

    非常謝謝您的影片分享。 讓我對於文字描寫中不清楚的解釋,得到了答案。

  • @ryan7864
    @ryan78647 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video. I remember visiting Waterloo and the guide told us the KGL at La Haye Sainte ran out of ammo because the Baker rifle used a smaller round and the Brown Bess ammo was incompatible. I would have hated to of been them!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    The Bess was nominally 75cal while the Baker was in carbine calibre of .62, so yes, incompatible.

  • @ryan7864

    @ryan7864

    7 жыл бұрын

    britishmuzzleloaders That's what I thought as I held in my hand both as examples. Either they did not properly plan or they misused the KGL that day.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's important to know that not all the KGL were armed with the Baker. Only a fraction. There were the Light Bns and the Sharpshooters of the Light Companies of the Line Bns. That said, these were the troops (about 400) who mainly garrisoned the farm.

  • @STMwoodturning
    @STMwoodturning7 жыл бұрын

    95 grains of 2f behind a 300+ grain lead ball is a very potent load! It would certainly be a good close range load for deer/elk hunting.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    Or hunting the enemy... :-)

  • @STMwoodturning

    @STMwoodturning

    7 жыл бұрын

    Indeed!

  • @paulalexander2928
    @paulalexander29287 жыл бұрын

    Background music Royal Green Jackets? I have marched at 140 to the minute. Kudos to the 95th our progenitor!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    Interestingly enough, I have yet to uncover anything indicating fast marching until the 20th century. Plenty of Rifles' specific mention in the Victorian pams, but never anything regarding marching. The tunes are a mix of Light Infantry and Rifles stuff.

  • @nayrespect1146

    @nayrespect1146

    5 жыл бұрын

    Celer et Audax

  • @duncanandrews1940
    @duncanandrews19408 жыл бұрын

    Pure devilment that ending Rob, great video as always. It also shows off the rifle very well which is great ( and bloody annoying as I am STILL waiting for my copy Baker to arrive ) but has almost convinced me to shoot my original 1812 Carbine-bore..................I might put one round down the garden to see what happens!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Duncan Andrews Please do,.... record it and put it up somewhere.... As a matter of fact, it phoned me the other day and asked me to plead with you to let her shoot... So,..... PLEASE,... let her shoot..... there, I said it.... :-) Hopefully the issues with your repro get worked out and you can enjoy it... Thanks again, for your kind words, Duncan.... "Devilment".... I love it...

  • @duncanandrews1940

    @duncanandrews1940

    8 жыл бұрын

    +britishmuzzleloaders Where did it get your phone number Rob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    Duncan Andrews Hey..... I can't be responsible for indiscretions YOUR rifle might get up to... Maybe it's a cry for help? Maybe "someone" needs to spend a little more time with her..... Maybe she's just starving, and needs to be fed.... Hahahahaha...

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    Duncan Andrews HUZZA!!!!!

  • @AlfJDale

    @AlfJDale

    8 жыл бұрын

    +britishmuzzleloaders A sight for sore eyes,lovely video Rob.

  • @anthonycollora2921
    @anthonycollora2921 Жыл бұрын

    The 1803 rifle the Lewis and Clark expedition used is similar if not identical in application to the baker rifle that was adopted in the year 1800 by the British Army especially the 95th rifle regiment at Waterloo in 1815

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, same generation and application.

  • @charlesc.plumley9755
    @charlesc.plumley97558 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. now I need to find some

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Charles C. Plumley ..... find some,....... cookies to eat while you watch the video? .......find some,...... money to buy a Baker?,...... find some,...... balloons to shoot?.... :-)

  • @tsmgguy
    @tsmgguy8 жыл бұрын

    As always, a very entertaining and useful video! FWIW, "sabot" is pronounced "say-bow". French, you know, for a shoe made of wood.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +tsmgguy Without getting into a To-mah-to/To-may-to argument..... My French tells me that it is pronounced Sah-bow..... Say-bow would be "American"..... :-)... Sah-Bot would be Canadian...... hahaha.

  • @tsmgguy

    @tsmgguy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@britishmuzzleloaders I'm American, so guilty as charged! ;-)

  • @Courier-Six
    @Courier-Six2 жыл бұрын

    I have always loved the Baker Rifle since i first saw it in the Sharpe television show. While i still prefer the Hawken style rifle, the Baker is a close second for me

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @ashersinz
    @ashersinz7 жыл бұрын

    the end of the video was the best

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    It was taunting me all day..... whimsically fluttering in the breeze, distracting me from my shooting, saying "Oooo, Ooooo, Ooooo, betchyou can't hit me!"

  • @ashersinz

    @ashersinz

    7 жыл бұрын

    It was asking for it

  • @vitorb.macarthy348
    @vitorb.macarthy3485 жыл бұрын

    This was also the standart musket of the Brazilian imperial army during the reign of Pedro I (1822-1831)

  • @EldarKinSlayer
    @EldarKinSlayer7 жыл бұрын

    When you get around to the follow up, I would be interested in seeing loose but preached ball especially when the patch has been cut in a cross shape. I am not sure how to adhere the patch to the ball. Possibly beeswax? Thank you for the great videos!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi there. I am experimenting with a number of types of patched ball cartridge right now and that style is one of them. The key is to get the shape right so it completely seals the bore, at least that's the way I'm approaching it!... Cheers.

  • @A14b19
    @A14b197 жыл бұрын

    love your videos.i was wondering when the troops were preparing there ammo in camp they would have access to animal fat .would they have a pot of melted fat and dipped the ball end with paper in to the fat as a lubricant ? would like to know your thoughts . would it foul up more .thinking what I would do if I was a one of them. But I don't have the experience of a Neopolionic soldier .

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi there. Round ball cartridges intended to be fired without patching were not lubricated. They were small enough not to need any. As for lubricating patches, tallow would have been supplied...

  • @istvansipos9940
    @istvansipos99407 жыл бұрын

    so primitive and so beautiful weapon

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    Maybe by current standards, but back then it was definitely a step up from the usual infantry arms, in some respects.

  • @notarokescientist3003
    @notarokescientist30032 жыл бұрын

    I am considering the building of my own Baker from TRS to accompany my Kentucky long rifle.

  • @Sailor_McNemo
    @Sailor_McNemo8 жыл бұрын

    Excellent and informative video! Do you mold your own musket balls? If so, what brand/style do you use for the smaller ball you are using for the patched shots?

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +McNamaraB1 I actually used the same ball for both.... Seemed to work OK.. They are .595 and are made from a Jeff Tanner mould (he's from the UK and does very decent and reasonably priced moulds to order) Glad you enjoyed the clip! Cheers.

  • @Beowulf-sd5gh
    @Beowulf-sd5gh7 жыл бұрын

    Good Day to you Sir! First of all I want to say I really like your videos and style. I was wondering which company did you get your Baker Rifle from? So far I've only managed to find a smoothbore version for reenactment...

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    HI there. The Baker is from the Rifle Shoppe. I made it with their parts set. Great project. Glad you are enjoying things.

  • @adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder
    @adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder7 жыл бұрын

    Are you planning on making the part 2 of this video soon ? Have you talked about paper cartridges containing a patch for a rifle in some of your other videos ? Anyway, I really liked this video, thanks.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    HI there. Glad you enjoyed it. Yes, the plan is get Part Two done... Waiting for some snow to dissipate right now...

  • @grendelgrendelsson5493
    @grendelgrendelsson54936 жыл бұрын

    Another great video mate!!! Are there any black powder magazines published in Canada or the US that you know of? I can't seem to find any in jolly GB!!!!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    6 жыл бұрын

    Couldn’t tell you. I’d have to google just like you... :-)

  • @SpiridonovRU
    @SpiridonovRU8 жыл бұрын

    Great experiment! Thank You! Greetings from Russian muzzleloader!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Alexander Spiridonov Thanks!

  • @buttar105
    @buttar1057 жыл бұрын

    Hello there! Great videos! I was thinking of purchasing a Baker Rifle and was wondering what wood were the original rifles made up because the one I was going to pick up seemed to be teak wood.. also where could I read more about the rifle? Thanks!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi there. Yes, the Indian repros are typically teak or some other "tropical" wood.... This one (from Rifle Shoppe parts) is walnut, as with the originals... Glad you enjoyed the clips! Cheers.

  • @francis400
    @francis4007 жыл бұрын

    It would be interesting comparing the loading and ballistic characteristics of a Baker rifle and a brown bess.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi there. "csadler" has done a few such clips. If you are interested, check them out. Cheers.

  • @davidlane7295
    @davidlane72956 жыл бұрын

    What size patch do you use? We use round patches in the states. 1”x1”? Thanks man!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    6 жыл бұрын

    They are from 1"square to 1 1/2".... typically.

  • @hardalarboard8876
    @hardalarboard88764 жыл бұрын

    My Fav song “Mechanized Infantry”

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's a dandy.

  • @535tony
    @535tony3 жыл бұрын

    I am curious if you are concerned with getting any sparks in your eyes when you shoot. What are your feelings on the various black powder substitutes that are available. Where do you get your Black Powder? Sorry about the questions. Great video as usual.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am not. I have never used substitutes. I get my BP from a wholesaler. Cheers!

  • @notarokescientist3003
    @notarokescientist30032 жыл бұрын

    I am curious how many shots you manage before requiring to reharden the frizzen?

  • @versal339
    @versal3398 жыл бұрын

    Rob, are you using any sort of special paper? Great as always. Thanks again.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Hugh Batesel I used some rag paper that I used to use with the Enfield. This stuff was cut already so I just modified the shape and made it work. It's good paper. Strong but relatively thin and easy to tear to open. Cheers.

  • @eco-beehive
    @eco-beehive6 жыл бұрын

    As always very excellent! Now I want a baker rifle, but for hunting I’d have to get a custom one with a .54 or .50 so I can shoot sabot. Not historically correct but more ethical?

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    6 жыл бұрын

    I doubt it... a .60cal round ball with 95gr of powder will be just fine.

  • @eco-beehive

    @eco-beehive

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think you are correct. I know you are correct. I'll look at getting a reproduction rifle.

  • @AutoFirePad
    @AutoFirePad2 жыл бұрын

    Good soldier!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cheers.

  • @gunmen1944
    @gunmen19447 жыл бұрын

    Where is part two????? I love the channel

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's coming... I'm working out how to best make the cartridges.... Its proving to be a bit of a pain... in time though. Thanks for the interest. I'm itching to get back to the Baker.

  • @petermartini8346
    @petermartini83468 жыл бұрын

    Great Rob, looking forward to Part 2.You mentioned "pre-patched" balls & I remember seeing some Baker prepatched balls for sale on Ebay. They were apparently from an 1815-20's store of balls from a militia unit. Looking at them they had a stuck on what looked like shammy leather patch that must have been shaped something like a 4 sided clover before application to the ball. Probably never regular WD issue but looked interesting.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Peter Martini I recall seeing something of that very type... Don't know if we are talking about the same exact image, but the one that I have, looked like a mini softball... It's one of the methods I am going to try... Also the Brunswick-style with a patch completely tied around the ball. I figure about 3 or 4 different types including the Macerone version.... Thanks for that!

  • @jackarmstrong7623
    @jackarmstrong76234 жыл бұрын

    A quick question @britishmuzzleloaders is the method off of Sharpe (bite,pour,spit,tap) viable or is it a method they made up for the show? If you could reply that would be great. I love the videos!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    4 жыл бұрын

    It is fallacy. "csadler" on YT did a great examination of the technique if you are interested.

  • @skylerslack12
    @skylerslack1210 ай бұрын

    Could you pssibly go into detail sometime about how they kept the patches with the ammo?

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    10 ай бұрын

    I could, but I might direct you to the subsequent two parts to this series.... 😀

  • @checkmate058
    @checkmate0584 жыл бұрын

    Could a cartrage be made such as its pushed down the bore it passes some blade shaped like a vegtable skinner grabs the edges of the paper and causes the paper cartrage rip open at the back dumping the powder down the barrel and possably fold onto itself for a tighter seal?

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe Part Two and Three of this series might be of interest? Cheers.

  • @panzerzh9864
    @panzerzh98646 жыл бұрын

    Can't say I fancy a foot drill music on a background - but I'm a fan, and it's always a pleasure to listen to an expert! Speaking of Sean Bean's performance - is it anywhere near practical to roll a loose naked ball down the barrel of the Baker rifle as it's shown in "Sharpe's Rifles" - without using a ramrod, just tapping the butt on a ground? Or it's just a cinematic exaggeration? Thought that gas sealing is somewhat essential in firearm, though, so it demands a tight fit for the ball...

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    6 жыл бұрын

    "cdsadler" of YT did an interesting experiment on this very thing... have a look!.. :-)

  • @panzerzh9864

    @panzerzh9864

    6 жыл бұрын

    I did. Guys are awesome, but they've tried it with smooth-bore musket... Still wondering, would the tap nesting work with the rifled barrel? In other videos you mention balls of various calibers - when explaining loose patched ball and the cartridge. Perhaps, 22ga ball should roll in nicely - and I trust that ball will even leave the barrel when fired - but would it go straight and deliver enough energy with such a loose fit and no sealing at all?

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    6 жыл бұрын

    Here's the deal... in order for this to work, you have to bite off the bullet from the top of the cartridge which entails a bunch of powder in the mouth... .... and of course a lead ball in your mouth... then you have to swirl it around in there to get the paper and string off.... biting into it and "chewing" the paper off... All this while you are pouring the powder down the barrel... then with any last bits of paper removed with the fingers in the mouth, you can spit the ball down the barrel... The ball is capable of rolling down the barrel, but the process isn't as easy (or indeed healthy) as one might think.

  • @scotthunter1556
    @scotthunter15564 жыл бұрын

    I understand you made your Baker from a kit. How did you go about inletting the keys? What did you reference?

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ah,.... the most difficult and stressful part of the build. I used a drill press, a level, and a clamp to drill the keyways through the barrel key loops with the barrel clamped in place... Three holes side by side, then finished it out with jewellers files and a knife. There is a better way using a press with a locating nail clamped to the base pointing up, matching exactly the tip of the drill bit...

  • @SMaia02
    @SMaia026 жыл бұрын

    Sorry if the question may be stupid, but wouldn't the paper used in the cartrige waxed? Really like the videos!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    6 жыл бұрын

    No, paper cartridges of the era were not lubricated. The bullets were smaller than the bore, giving enough windage to allow for loading while fouled.

  • @SMaia02

    @SMaia02

    6 жыл бұрын

    britishmuzzleloaders Thanks! : )

  • @mindmedic9435
    @mindmedic94358 жыл бұрын

    My compliments, Sir, on another fine video. And, my compliments to your moustache. Is it true that the Army once required one to have a certain amount of facial hair?

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Mind Medic Yes, provided that the man could actually grow one... Don't know when that was instituted, but it lasted until 1916, I believe. Thank you for you kind words.

  • @KRRabbit1
    @KRRabbit18 жыл бұрын

    Does the paper separate from the paper patched round ball on firing?

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +KRRabbit1 Yes it does.

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC Жыл бұрын

    Rob, I wonder if the decision to cease the issue of the patched ball and powder half way through the Napoleonic was was, in some way related to the change in the nature of the war. The Peninsular Campaign was a war of skirmishing and often smaller independent units, by the time the war had moved to Flanders, the nature of the war had changed to open rolling and flat countryside suitable for line battle? Probably nothing in it and who knows, perhals individual riflemen kept their own patch and ball, especially if they were marksmen.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    Жыл бұрын

    I imagine that the reasoning behind forgoing the issue of separate patch and ball was due to the lack of need for it. Though, to categorize the whole Peninsular War in one way would be much too general. The use of patched ball cartridges (as examined int he subsequent parts of this series) became a much easier and expedient method.

  • @rabbitbabbit7311
    @rabbitbabbit73116 жыл бұрын

    Recommend me a good book on firearms and their evolution

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    6 жыл бұрын

    Conquest of Empire and Defence of the Realm: The British Soldier's Rifle from 1800 to 2014.

  • @Sabbelwakker
    @Sabbelwakker8 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video. I've been looking for a Baker rifle for a long time now (I live in Austria so they aren't as prevalent as in your part of the world i guess) Where did you get yours? I've seen reproductions but only with smooth bore in .62.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Sabbel Wakker HI there. I made from parts from The Rifle Shoppe. Great project.

  • @acx1337
    @acx1337 Жыл бұрын

    what makes a good solder is the ability to shoot 3 rounds in a minute in any weather.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    Жыл бұрын

    Mmmmm,… maybe.

  • @sergiuvolda1155
    @sergiuvolda11554 жыл бұрын

    Was that service charge synonymous with other weapons of the era like the brown Bess? Or was that 95 grains specifically for the baker?

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was specific to the Baker. The Brown Bess charge was 6 drams vs 3 1/2 with the Baker.

  • @iac4357
    @iac43574 жыл бұрын

    Though apparently not Period, might not lubing the paper cartridge, smoothbore style, help Windage and Accuracy ? I would think that there had to be an army somewhere, that tried this.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    4 жыл бұрын

    Smoothbore (unmatched round ball) cartridges were not lubricated... As this series deals with service ammunition, I used that which closely resembled the historical.

  • @joshuathiel243
    @joshuathiel2437 жыл бұрын

    Where did you get your cap? It is awesome! And secondly what is the song around 10:00 ? Thanks!!

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    7 жыл бұрын

    From Sally Pointer in Wales. If you are interested in Kilmarnock, I can't recommend her enough.

  • @joshuathiel243

    @joshuathiel243

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I looked her up and her work is amazing!

  • @mothmagic1

    @mothmagic1

    5 жыл бұрын

    If i'm not mistaken it's Sousa's Blaze Away

  • @davidlane7295
    @davidlane72956 жыл бұрын

    What size smaller ball did you use? Thanks

  • @britishmuzzleloaders

    @britishmuzzleloaders

    6 жыл бұрын

    The ball is in the neighbourhood of .595

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