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@HelloEdits613

24 күн бұрын

Did you and Yarnhub release the Münster videos at the same time or was that coincidence?

@namesvale5904

24 күн бұрын

Why is it always new users XD

@ciagent47pro

23 күн бұрын

"Hey! I hope you are doing great today! I was about to say that if you can make any interesting ww1 battle like? Tannenberg🏇⚔️, Gallipoli🏝️⚔️, Jutland⚓, Cambrai⚔️, Passchendaele⚔️, Verdun🏰⚔️, Somme💀⚔️ or etc... But the battle that i want to make is Verdun because here... !They shall not pass!

@hatersgonnalovethis

22 күн бұрын

16:30, basically a war crime. Our neighbour, an old lady working one of the farms in the village I grew up, told us about an RAF pilot they found in the woods. The local nazi leader interrogated him and they found out that he had just bombed Stuttgart, but got shot down by anti air guns. That particular air raid was targeted at the train station and the inner city of Stuttgart. Hundreds of people burned alive. They hanged the pilot then and there at the big oak tree on the village entrance. My mom was shocked but the old lady said, "Er war ein Kindermörder" (he was a child killer).

@datmanz5890

22 күн бұрын

btw WOW is a dead game, nobody plays that garbage anymore.

I'm currently watching this video on the top floor of the yellow building that is at 1 o'clock to the top tip of the blue star that is the moat of the Schloss in the west of Münster, and funnily enough when I moved into this flat and redecorated the walls, I noticed that most of the the walls seemed to have originally only been built up to half their current height. Didnt think too much of it though, and went about my life. A few months later I was in the kiosk (basically a kind of seven-eleven) round the corner, and an ancient man came in. We chatted for a moment, he asked me where i live, and i told him the adress. ''ha! That's where we used to run! The whole street would meet in that cellar, cause it had the communal bomb shelter.'' I told him that now that he mentioned it, there was one part of the cellar that had a big iron door, and he nodded. ''But we were never worried, the boys on the roof always nailed it'' he said with a slight grin, and plodded away. I'm now almost positive, that the half-story that was added after the war was to build up the part of the roof that used to hold the flak-battery. Smol world innit.

@truereaper4572

25 күн бұрын

Very interesting story!

@jakemocci3953

25 күн бұрын

Based old German.

@alitlweird

24 күн бұрын

Wild.

@Arash_Leopard

24 күн бұрын

technically you can say your home once had an 88cm cannon?

@richardtedyell3350

24 күн бұрын

@Arash_Leopard more like my home once WAS an 88cm cannon!

Thumbs up for the merge of animation and historical photographs @16:44. Montemayor did the same in his Pearl Harbor video.

@lovelessissimo

25 күн бұрын

Do the 90 year olds give you a hard time?

@robertfarmer9901

24 күн бұрын

I posted also, I think Operations Room is the best of these videos, but Montemayor's Pearl Harbor is great. I've watched it several times.

@reekt2832

24 күн бұрын

The overlayed photos really hit home how real the raid was, and how real the town and people who were affected were

@neurofiedyamato8763

21 күн бұрын

​@@robertfarmer9901My favorite Montemayor videos are Savo island and Midway (japanese perspective)

@OVENFRESHJEWS6

16 күн бұрын

YOU HEARD IT. ROSENTHAL THIS VIDEO IS A LIE 😂

Can I ask you all a favour? If you enjoy this episode, could you please hit the like button and/or leave a comment, it helps us massively. Appreciate you all!

@jeffstaples347

25 күн бұрын

ENGAGEMENT!

@stellarfox5869

25 күн бұрын

yep. this is a comment

@TheOperationsRoom

25 күн бұрын

@@stellarfox5869 sure is

@jar985

25 күн бұрын

I love the content. Keep it up!

@Garland_From_FF1

25 күн бұрын

Have you guys considered doing an in-depth video about the bomber crew that got escorted by a German Ace? I cant remember the details of that story but I thought it was a showing of mercy in a brutal war such as WWII.

i wasnt a huge fan of master of the air, but this mission was absolutely done well in the show. theres no other words i can use to describe it than sheer insanity. the variety and scale of suffering of wwii really outstrips human comprehension

@arveduilastking546

25 күн бұрын

I agree. The suffering of the civilians during ww2 was in many ways insane

@afoster1621

25 күн бұрын

Was it not just though as the end to suffering as a direct result of the war lead to the lesser of two evils. Most wars are not as just.

@volusian95

25 күн бұрын

It's such an odd thing isn't it? The memory is becoming very distant and the number of people who experienced it firsthand is dwindling, but I feel like we still haven't collectively comprehended the whole thing.

@sntslilhlpr6601

24 күн бұрын

It's kind of a shame that it didn't live up to its potential. From the bland characters, to the ridiculously unrealistic CGI (talking motion, not graphical fidelity), to the disjointed narrative. I wasn't expecting Band of Brothers quality, because how could you, but I was expecting more than _that._

@BunzJackson

24 күн бұрын

I liked Masters of the Air a lot, besides Austin Butler, he was terrible and completely out of place.

My grandpa flew B-24s in china during WW2. I recently found a book that features him on a raid. On this mission the plane “Chug-a-Lug” was shot up so bad the navigation papers flew out the cockpit, and most of his crew was injured. He made it back to a friendly runway but the plane was so damaged he had to land going 140 with no flaps and the plane went into a spin upon hitting the ground. Funny enough even while crash landing he managed to put the plane into the designated parking area. He crashed on another mission and was taken POW, he didn’t tell my dad much of anything about that, but I can bet it was not a good experience. He died when I was 3 but I imagine he was a cool guy. My dad said his PTSD was bad. RIP Leland Borden Farnell

@hawaiianrobot

24 күн бұрын

your grandpa sounds like he was badass as hell

@markthompson4885

24 күн бұрын

My uncle fought japs in the philippines It took me several years as a kid to get him to tell me anything of the war there. He did tell me several stories most very bad time.

@christianschulz1443

23 күн бұрын

Are you really on here bragging about your grandpa the warcriminal ?

@sheltr9735

20 күн бұрын

@@christianschulz1443 Absolutely ignorant comment

@halo129830

20 күн бұрын

@@christianschulz1443bro several American volunteer divisions went to China to fight the Japanese calling him a war criminal is ingenious at best and downright wrong at worst

These graphic re-enactments of significant battles is one of the few channels I will watch immediately when they come up….outstanding way to understand the complexities of battle.

Band of Brothers made me fear winter, The Pacific made me fear the jungle, Masters of the Air makes me fear flying. I hope they do a series on WW2 submariners next. They could do three perspectives or an anthology: U-boats, merchant marine convoys, and American submariners in the Pacific.

@panelaashigaryuuko

24 күн бұрын

Das Boot And GreyHound

@spiffywolf2850

24 күн бұрын

Yeah the subs in the pacific don't get enough coverage with how vital they were

@passantNL

24 күн бұрын

The ultimate TV-series (and movie) on U-boats has been done already. It doesn't get any better than Das Boot. I agree about the convoys though. The civilians in the merchant navy played a critical role in the war effort, but never really got the recognition they deserved from filmmakers. I can't think of a single movie or TV-series that focuses on them. At least those American submariners in the Pacific got Operation Petticoat. That's something.

@panelaashigaryuuko

24 күн бұрын

@@spiffywolf2850 because pasific theather is focused on Battleship and Carrier Battle. There is a little battle betwen ship fleet vs submarine group. But still there is 1 submarine that sink japanese experimental Heavy Carrier

@Masonjar94

24 күн бұрын

The pacific naval conquest would be a phenomenal series

Thank you for this well done documentation of a controversial bombing mission; namely, targeting civilians. This was unknown to me and hits home. As an American living in Berlin, my German mother-in-law (102 years old!) is from Münster and I am often there. My father landed on Utah beach on DDay and would have never imagined having a son who would one day be living in Berlin married to a German woman. Thank their sacrifices that we now live in peace. I do appreciate those , like yourself, who bring to light the unimaginable sacrifices and losses of those who came before us. You have a new subscriber…. Pass the word! Great job!!

@JB-rf8cx

18 күн бұрын

Les américains sont des assassins...

Was watching a Yarnhub the other day and noticed they made some stuff up about PT-109… I truly appreciate The Operation Room’s dedication to historical accuracy!

My uncle was killed in a mission to Munster on Nov. 5, 1943. Flak took out 2 engines on his B-24 and the German fighters finished the job. The plane was found about 15 years ago off Holland.

@blitzkopf7267

19 күн бұрын

your uncle was a murderer and he was killed as a murderer

@fendy5124

19 күн бұрын

​@@blitzkopf7267here comes the crybaby

@Bob.W.

19 күн бұрын

@blitzkopf7267 no, my uncle died to save the world from a whole nation of murderers.

@nville8795

19 күн бұрын

Shut up traier dweller

@brandonclark435

19 күн бұрын

​@@blitzkopf7267Salty your side lost?

My wife’s grandfather flew a B-17 in the 95th BG. He retired a Colonel. He also knew Lieutenant Rosenthal. After watching this I got out my book on the Münster raid by Ian Hawkins , a must read!

At 2:15 “Miss Carry” is a brutal bomber name

@scriptsmith4081

19 күн бұрын

Like "Murder Incorporated."(and when that one got shot down, the Germans made no end of playing the name up, as they had of the picture of Churchill in a pinstriped suit wielding a Tommy gun.)

@SnafuWT

15 күн бұрын

another one is a B-29 called "necessary evil" it accompanied the B-29 "enola gay" that dropped the atom bomb on hiroshima.

"Not everybody saw himself in the murder business.. but most men trusted their leaders" almost sounds like there were similar thoughts on both sides.

@davidb2206

10 күн бұрын

That's what they said at Nuremberg. No difference. Patton: "We defeated the wrong enemy."

@delta5297

7 күн бұрын

And yet, there are some leaders actually are deserving of trust, and some who are not.

@storm___

5 күн бұрын

Anytime I look at the stories of bomb raids from the allies i am reminded how they were the same evil they were supposedly fighting. They just got away with it.

@TheLassah

4 күн бұрын

@@delta5297 Funny how the leaders worthy of trust always happens to be on the winning side, quite the coincidence

Although Americans don't know or use the letter "Ü", it is essential to distinguish the city of Münster (the bombed city) and Munster (200km away from Münster).

@TheOperationsRoom

25 күн бұрын

Good point. Updated!

@edm240b9

25 күн бұрын

Did they do this to confuse English speakers? Because naming two towns almost the same thing (just one without an umlaut over it) feels intentional…

@Lazuli2-6

25 күн бұрын

The Americans accidently travel westward and hit the Irish province of Munster

@FTWIHA

25 күн бұрын

@@edm240b9 Nope.

@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu

25 күн бұрын

Which one has the cheese?

I've studied in Münster. Lived in the residential area that was one of the target points. The area around the railway station is today known as Hawerkamp and houses a lot of Münster's clubs. Not interesting I guess but still an eerie feeling.

@Vickzq

21 күн бұрын

When war was over, all black US pilots had to go to separated areas from white pilots... but they thought killing civilians in muenster would be fighting racial segregators...

This episode hits differently. The small mentioning of the Bremen bombing at the start - my father was born in Bremen in '39 and we lost relatives when my (great)grandparents shop was bombed to rubble - they went from prospering Shop-owners to homeless in a day. My mother was born in Münster in '44 and while she was still a baby in the hospital the town was bombed again (there's a whole other story how she even got to be born there) - luckily they didn't hit the hospital. It's a good episode and I feel better to hear the story told in this detail from the "other" side. (To be absolutely clear: "my" side is my parents' view, not the nazi side!)

@koriuk5032

21 күн бұрын

war is hell... sorry for your loss :(

@mainely8007

18 күн бұрын

It's always fascinating that there were Germans who were living prosperous lives while millions of their fellow citizens were being systematically opressed, beaten, imprisoned and murdered. Equally fascinating that the German war machine was blitzing through most of Europe and other parts of the world were being attacked. Citizens in the occupied country were subject to abuse and mistreatment. All while German citizens prospered and either cheered the German Army and/or ignored their war crimes and atrocities. Thus when I hear news about "prospering shop-owners" becoming homeless, I have to ask, did they think there would be no consquences for what their country did? Your cities were bombed, some into rubble as a consequence of attacking, oppressing, murdering and bombing other nations.

@bastiandoen2583

18 күн бұрын

​@@mainely8007 well, I do not know about their exact status, I know that they were well-to-do shop owners before the war. And yes, a lot of germans were cheering their armies on, while living relatively normal lives, at least in the beginning years of the war. And yes, a lot of germans ignored the atrocities of the nazis. Some later claimed they didn't know about it - out of sight, out of mind. Enough people gained through the deportation of jews and other minorities or the use of their cheap labor. Some companies are still around and kept their gains through the end of the war.

@miwi9883

17 күн бұрын

​@@mainely8007interesting that you're in favour of collective punishment 🤔, I must say that I am against it and generally oppose targeting civilians. But I guess if everyone would share my opinion war would either not exist or be fought as "gentlemen war" with only military casualties - or at least very very minor accidental loss of civilian life.

@powerhouse1981

17 күн бұрын

Grow a pair and acknowledge the slaughter of your people. Everything told about germany is a lie.

When Yarnhub and Operations Room inadvertently do the same topic the same weekend-

@guillermobetancourt1006

23 күн бұрын

I was gonna comment the same thing hahahahah

@Anihalas

22 күн бұрын

I was abit confused at first. But both tellings were captivating!

@Dbales34

17 күн бұрын

Both Probably somewhat inspired by MOTA

Even in Vietnam we were still dropping thousands of tons of ordnance just to temporarily knock out railways and logistics facilities, turns out near misses are still just misses even when it comes to high explosives.

@xxnightdriverxx9576

24 күн бұрын

A lot of the damage from bombing comes from shrapnel, debris, fires, etc. Railway tracks are rather resistent to those.

@ThunderPanzer

24 күн бұрын

@@xxnightdriverxx9576 Plus, all it takes to repair them is replacing the damaged track section. Sets the enemy back a few days, but it's hardly a long term problem

@JustinAndrews74

19 күн бұрын

When I visited Hanoi as a tourist in 2010, the first landmark in Hanoi proper we came across was a steel bridge the tour guide said, "the Americans kept bombing it and we kept rebuilding it."

@markwilliams8369

19 күн бұрын

@@ThunderPanzer but that's still steel that isn't being used in tanks, U-boats or aircraft.

@JB-rf8cx

18 күн бұрын

La méthode assassin des américains..

We still peel some of the bombs from the ground. I am from the area, really interesting to see how the raid worked. I just new that Coesfeld got hit by mistake, but never the rest of the circumstances. 18:25

You missed a part of the mission. They were told by command that one of the main targets was the Cathedral of the town, at noon.. on a Sunday, the reason behind this was never explained according to the pilots, but for obvious reasons it was to maximize the civilian casualties.

@aaronishii5874

24 күн бұрын

Christian civilian casualties

@thadrobinson8343

23 күн бұрын

Any guesses what they aimed for in Nagasaki, and what was happening at that time?

@jamestagg2152

23 күн бұрын

@@thadrobinson8343 The center of town?

@indianasunsets5738

23 күн бұрын

But, they were fighting for "decency" and "human rights". Hmm...I wonder group hates Christ and Christians most? Hmm...

@jdotoz

22 күн бұрын

​@@jamestagg2152It's possible that the city's cathedral was what the bombardier aimed at. It would have been one of only a few suitable landmarks from that altitude. At any rate, the hypocenter wound up being about 500 meters from the cathedral, in which perhaps a couple dozen parishioners were waiting to start confession. Nagasaki was the center of Japanese Christianity.

I'm so glad you guys did this one. MOTA had to really truncate the story for dramatic purposes but I really wanted to know what exactly happened on this raid. The way Rosie had taken evasive action and Deblasio using the ACM advantage to shoot down 6 enemy fighters was so cool, and rarely done on B-17 raids. Great work as usual Operations Room!

19:25 i read that they tried to bomb the airfield nearby Enschede, as it hosted german warplanes. But they did indeed hit the city itself, which is not that close to the airfield. So your information makes sense. In feb 1944 they did hit Enschede by accident. Although a few people speculate it was on purpose to damage V1 & V2 part production, but thats not widely accepted.

@bavtie1

17 күн бұрын

Enschede sure has been mighty combustable over the years

Rosenthal handling his Fort like a fighter plane, with only 2 engines, dodging rockets and getting his men home. What a boss.

@jacp5628

25 күн бұрын

They really should've made him the main character in MotA. I thought he was a much more enjoyable story to follow than Cleven or Egan.

@handsomeheathen4739

24 күн бұрын

He probably lied but whatever

@RCAvhstape

24 күн бұрын

@@handsomeheathen4739 That's a serious charge to make. Got any evidence that he lied?

@handsomeheathen4739

24 күн бұрын

@@RCAvhstape No but I'm American so I don't need evidence. 😉

@RCAvhstape

24 күн бұрын

@@handsomeheathen4739 No evidence = your statement is bullshit. Rosenthal's crew didn't contradict his story, so I'll just believe him and choose to ignore you.

Losing that many aircraft on one mission would have been devastating for the 100th.

@OptiPopulus

23 күн бұрын

It was.

I just visited the 8th Air Force museum outside of Savannah, GA a couple week’s ago so it’s awesome to see this video!

Day raids were never to "avoiding civilian casualties", it was about more higher chances for hitting the target.

@storm___

5 күн бұрын

They wanted as many civilian casualties as possible. They even thought it was funny.

@robm5008

5 күн бұрын

@@storm___ who did?

@AnonD38

4 күн бұрын

Yeah, kind of weird to cite "reducing civilian casualties" as one of the reasons for this daylight raid when the entire point of the raid was maximum civilian casualties.

This is far better than masters of the air. One of the only channels i actually click on when i get the notification.

@6tuf85dyfu

22 күн бұрын

Agreed, the series lacks so much of the context and detail. Rushed because of a quarter of their budget being eaten by COVID compliance during filming.

@PaulCoby

22 күн бұрын

I o pop

@GunnerHeatFire

22 күн бұрын

@@6tuf85dyfu💯💯💯

@marckyle5895

3 күн бұрын

MoTA's CGI was about as bad as that 2012 'Fortress' movie.

Fantastic content. Seeing the visualization of all those bombers in a formation 75 miles long, I can only imagine the low hum that accompanied them on across the countryside. Just an unreal time to have been young. Hellish, and yet the heights of human achievement and cooperation before the digital era. The greatest generation, indeed.

Another great video. It's a good companion to other media on the topic. You guys do a good job of showing how everything fits together, "getting a lay of the land." I really liked how you were able to incorporate multiple points of view. More of that would be good. Sometimes it isn't possible, like when the events are too recent. The perspective of the 100th Bomb Group reminds me of a Star Trek: TNG episode, "Yesterday's Enterprise," where it was like "welp, this is terrible, but we have to send them back."

Your videos are incredibly detailed and do the BEST job at displaying the intricacies of a historic battle. No diagram or PowerPoint could ever help someone learn these lessons from history the way you do.

Oh, I will definitely leave a comment. Every day that I open youtube, I hope for a new video from you. War history is one of my top 3 video categories, and you're my number one content provider by a loooongshot. You have been for years. Thanks for everything that you and everyone else who has been a part of the channel since the very beginning do.

Thank you for making these. In the era of historical inaccuracies, this channel brings to light much needed factuality.

I'd like to see you cover the Battle of Raattentie which took place during the winter war. It's one of the more famous battles during the war.

Very well made video as is typical. Your attention to detail, the detail you include with your illustrations, your annunciation, it’s all top notch work being done. Great stuff!

Fantastic video. Thanks for including excerpts of first-hand experiences. It gives us a glimpse of what all these people went through.

I take white-knuckle flights as is. Simply can’t fathom the fear these dudes were experiencing.

@bob334

25 күн бұрын

The dudes in planes or the dudes on the ground?

@iMajoraGaming

24 күн бұрын

​​@@bob334 The penultimate horror, I would think, would be being a poor civilian in this situation. Would have to seem downright apocalyptic, giant machines battling in the sky, knowing that at any moment the bay-doors could swing open, and when they did, watching with increasing horror as you realize that this time, the resource they're targeting isn't the railways, or the factories of your industrial sector, *it's you.* You, the person, who has toiled, who has known hunger, and loss. You, the worker, are what has been deemed the most deleterious resource to lose, and there is no way to plead for clemency from men, in flying castles, thousands of feet above you, and even if you survive, *you are going to lose absolutely everything.* Such were the vicissitudes, of modern conflict. May God have mercy upon you as the fireflies fly.

@bob334

24 күн бұрын

@@iMajoraGaming That’s certainly an evocative piece of writing. Indeed, the evil that a few old men impose upon the many young and innocent, may be the greatest perpetual injustice of our times.

The amount of fight given and taken by the 100th is insane

Just saw this on 'Masters of the Air'! Love that you're covering this!

@epj0211

25 күн бұрын

I saw this on Yarnhub.

@TheOperationsRoom

25 күн бұрын

Yes, they didn't quite want to admit to the targeting civilians part though... "The city centre is nearby so accuracy is paramount" Hmmmm

@derekweiland1857

25 күн бұрын

​@@TheOperationsRoom As Churchill put it they were simply, "dehousing the Germans."

@derekweiland1857

25 күн бұрын

​@@TheOperationsRoom As Churchill put it they were simply, "dehousing the Germans."

@theguy3517

25 күн бұрын

​@@TheOperationsRoom Yes, as an American I don't appreciate the misdirection for the dialogue on bombing civilian centers. It wasn't just a matter of opinion among bomber crew, it was a clearly stated part of their mission.

Even knowing what was coming, this was still a hard episode to watch in "Masters of the AIr".

Always enjoy the air campaign videos.

I'am convinced that every military history channel out there on youtube are coordinating behind the scenes to produce high quality content on the same subject from different angles and perspectives. Great work as always.

@RW77777777

22 күн бұрын

or with the exact same angles and perspectives

Thank you for sharing such a detailed account of the mission.

The multiple points of view throughout the description really fleshes out the horror of the events.

It was a really nice touch to put that photo of the raid over the animation around 16:50 to show how it looked like in real life during the raid. Also, I like how y'all put some stock images in early this time. I think you usually leave those to the end of an episode or even the end of an overall series.

Ahh back to the classic videos.. the reason why I subscribed. ^^

Best historic engagement visualization channel on youtube, hands down 💪🏼

One of my favourite channels here on KZread. I sincerely appreciate all the effort put into these videos. Can't imagine how long each one takes, from research, up to the editing and whatnot of the videos. Here's to more awesome videos in the future, Operations Room.

Yet another fantastic video from the Operations Room. Currently watching Masters of the Air and its terrifying to see how each raid was more catastrophic for the 8th Air Force than the last. Must have been horrifying for the pilots on both sides. Love the WW2 content keep up the amazing work!

One of the best channels on KZread

I live 1 mile away from this airfield, a lot of the lay out is still there, great founding about what was happening there, great work keep it coming

I love this channel so much. It’s like a nice college history lecture during my lunch brake. Absolutely awesome.

As an American living in Muenster this is incredible

@user-kc6qr5eo1k

25 күн бұрын

Get out

@sirkaithethird2536

25 күн бұрын

@@user-kc6qr5eo1k ?

@pvt.potato1943

25 күн бұрын

​@@user-kc6qr5eo1kKosovo is a country ☺️

@kyb5203

25 күн бұрын

@@user-kc6qr5eo1kcope

@quantumimmortality551

24 күн бұрын

@@user-kc6qr5eo1k 😂

Thank you for highlighting the moral dilema faced by the flight crews before the mission. Brings history to life when you contemplate what others faced.

@pencilpauli9442

24 күн бұрын

Wonder if they would have felt the same if their homeland had been bombed.

@Jacksonflax

24 күн бұрын

@@pencilpauli9442 they literally said the majority of aircrews did not feel remotely good about this decision...

@pencilpauli9442

24 күн бұрын

@@Jacksonflax I know. And my response is still the same. How would they have felt had their homeland had been bombed and American civilians killed? It's a hypothetical question, but given the experience of British people in WW2 I'm guessing they would have been less reluctant, and their ethics would have been severely challenged. Hell, you just have to see how little fucks were given about bombing Iraq and Afghanistan by Americans. Even no fucks were given about drone strikes that killed Pakistani civilians, who weren't even involved and are supposed to be a friendly nation.

@Jacksonflax

23 күн бұрын

@@pencilpauli9442 Afghanistan? Afghanistan probably had the most balls-tied rules of engagement of any recorded conflict in the last 100 years

@pencilpauli9442

23 күн бұрын

@@Jacksonflax Oh well that totes puts the mockers on my argument 🙄🙄

Outstanding presentation as per usual

Good lord what a nightmare mission. Excellent video, Ops Room

I was an American soldier and fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. I have seen more than my fair share of combat and to me this is more terrifying than anything. Being stuck in a tube thats bullet ridden, probably on fire, traveling hundreds of miles an hour, 10,000ft in the air, slinging rounds back and fourth. 1 stray bullet hits the wrong thing, and youre all going down, with such force you probably cant even pick yourself up to bail out. Screaming with your stomach in your throat like the most intense parts of a rollercoaster as you plummit toward the ground.. No thank you, Infantry will always be the 2nd most bad ass dudes to ever exist, thanks to these airmen. -Sincerely, a former 11B from the 101rst Airborne.

@MC-nu9dv

16 күн бұрын

As a British Soldier having also deployed on Operations in Afghanistan. I too agree with your statement. As I was watching this I was trying to place myself into their position within a B-17. Having seen significant combat, I consider these men beyond brave, flying time after time over enemy territory in what is a munitions magnet. The utter courage allied bomber crews shown during WWII is truly humbling and in my opinion unsung. This history should be taught more in school as it begins to fade out of living memory because it appears to me that the world is forgetting. May their names live forevermore, lest we forget.

@almartin4

Сағат бұрын

That sounds very similar to our family history: My father, John Allan Martin, enlisted in the Army Air Corps (1942), age 18, and served as a gunner and radio operator on B-17s and B-24s. He was assigned to the 8th Air Force in England and flew 35 combat missions over Europe. Including one shown as "SECRET" on his papers. According to him, later while watching “12 O’clock High” on TV, he thought that it was very well done and he liked the show. He did say that instead of the large letter “A” in the show their planes carried a large letter “P” there. He was in the 387th Bombardment Squadron of 487th Bombardment Group. The records for many crew members were lost during a fire at Fort Benjamin Harrison. His brother, age 20, was a Navy aviator flying in the Pacific area: his plane was shot down . The bad news was wired to the family, who were surprised three months later when he walked in the front door in his Navy uniform. My father had left the service at the end of the war and worked as a TV/Radio engineer. He was called back to duty for the Korean conflict but didn’t have to deploy; and stayed with the new US Air Force. He retired in 1968 after 26 years of active duty and died in 1976. His brother also passed in 2005. Both brothers are buried at Arlington National Cemetery. Regards

Did you and Yarnhub intentionally post a vid on the same topic or is that just a coincidence?

@TheOperationsRoom

25 күн бұрын

Coincidence, it has been one video production cycle since Masters of the Air!

@Newdivide

25 күн бұрын

@@TheOperationsRoomfigures

As always, you did an excellent job recounting this story for future generations! I hope they find as much inspiration as we have in these stories

Great video as always. The quality on this channel is just outstanding.

Just an Information: Münster and Munster are two different Cities!

What a horrific result for a pointless and unconscionable mission.

@TheBlueCream

14 күн бұрын

it was neither..we were in a TOTAL WAR

Amazing story and animations as always, thanks for the video!

I'm grateful for this high quality WW2 history, thanks!

Right on the heels of finishing Masters of Air and this gem comes out. You guys never fail to impress!

15:35 So funny to see a map of the place at that time. Until last year I lived there for a decade. Interesting to see the city blocks I lived in, near Südpark, to already exist at the time.

@ivantheterrified2922

24 күн бұрын

The map doesn't actually show the full extent of the city during WW2 (probably based on an older map): The southern edge between Hammer Str. and Weseler Str./Kappenberger Damm was at B51 - I lived there for 20 years. The southernmost east-west road on the map at 16:00 must be Inselbogen/Metzer Str. based on the continuation towards Ring and Aasee. That and the peninsula in the canal would put B51 and the edge of the city around the small gap in the forest south of that road.

Impressive feats by impressive people…a boyhood buddy’s dad was a waist gunner….his Distinguished Flying Cross was framed in the hallway….Special kind of people🇺🇸💪

Fantastic work as always. Thank you for all your hard work!

I love how yarnhub and the operations room posted a vid on the same topic with just a few days between them

This is probably a stretch, but my grandfather is Theobald Charles Maurer, he was a bomber pilot and flew many missions over Germany. If you guys could ever put up a video that referenced him that would be amazing! Great video as always keep up the great work!

Crazy that both you and Yarnhub made a video about this raid in the same week. Very excited to see it in your style now!

Great job on the map overlays. Cool to see the actual photos layered on the videos map.

My father was Viennese and born in1940. Until his dying day had severe claustrophobia because of the times he had to spend in the subways when Vienna was bombed

@miwi9883

17 күн бұрын

​@@trzeciazona9608surly the hundred - to hundreds of civilians that died in Wieluń we're victims of a war crime. Likewise the civilians that died in other attacked towns. But that holds irrespective of the nationality of the civilians. The millions of Iranians that starved under British occupation were likewise victims like the polish Jews in concentration camps or German civilians in Vienna, Dresden or Munster. On side it's very debatable if those attacks actually shortened the war (evidence says it didn't - it would have if the industrial capacity was attacked or military targets). On the other side we need to ask ourselves if the death of the civilian only matters when it's one of your own side. The problem is, if you would stick to that rule killing polish civilians from a German point of view was actually allowed. Likewise killing russian civilians is allowed now for Ukraine and killing Ukrainian civilians is now allowed for Russia. In short, this rule would mean that it's ok to kill civilians in any case - excep if they are from your own or allied nations.

@trzeciazona9608

16 күн бұрын

@@EHASS43991 and now think about all those children who lost their dads in concentration camps, or parents who lost their children from starvation. You really do not have anything to complain about. Allied carpet bombings saved millions of lives of nations enslaved by the Nazis. Maybe for you this is traumatic, but for many more it was a fair payback and hope, that they will survive the war you started.

@EHASS43991

16 күн бұрын

​ what I said about my father was in reference to the raid that was posted on this channel. In a perfect world there would be no civilian bombings nor wars and we wouldnt even be having this conversaion. And yes I am also familiar with the crimes committed by the Nazis which were abhorent. My comment was specific to my father and in no way condoned what was done by the Nazi's and their ilk. That being said you have still not explained on your previous posts who I insulted so I assume you lied for effect.

@trzeciazona9608

16 күн бұрын

@@EHASS43991 I can use "the Nazis" in my sentences, while you should rather say "And yes I am also familiar with the crimes committed by Us which were abhorrent". BTW, you realize, that those bombings were the result of what your nation did to the others. It was the direct result of all the atrocities you committed, death camps, all those raids... and look what Austians are doing now. Your banks still support Putinist nazi Ruzzia. I believe, what you wrote above is just a political correctness, not something you trully believe in.

My grandfather was a radio man on a B17 for the 8th and it wasn’t until after he passed did we get access to his service records. He never talked about his experiences and forgive me for being coy, but out of respect for him, I won’t either. But what gets me is that there are people who don’t understand the stress and toll these airmen went through. And that’s both physically and mentally…. I honestly was a bit disappointed in the recent miniseries because I think it failed to better show, but this episode was a highlight. To see a B17 being able to maneuver like that was spectacular. It’s not a fighter plane, but it still can perform when pushed to the limits. Hell, a 737 max for all of it faults thanks to Boeing can still duck and dodge in the hands of the right pilot.

Don’t get me wrong I love every single video you guys make and watch every single one of them, but I’m glad that finally there’s some WWII content after half a year.

You guys are in my top 5 channels. Thanks for the awesome work and all your hard work. We all appreciate it.

4.23 am malaysia time,min 18 Hello everybody

Just started reading Masters of the air and this video comes out!

Amazing animation and very detail recoints, amazing work!!😊

I’ve to Münster few times, I had no idea, things like this happened over there. I can even recognise the aerials of the city. Nice work, Operations room

Every time one of these videos come up I am kind of excited to see how battles were fought in recent wars, but by the end I am left with sadness about how many lives have been lost because of the greed of a few.

Royal Flush got that War Thunder skills in them

Nice video. Thanks Operations Room.

Thank you! Good work as always!

Those are some awfully modern maps of the Netherlands

That tail gunner is exaggerating like hell. Lol

@adambrande

12 сағат бұрын

like I know this channel is allied centric but seriously, why involve an unconfirmed encounter like this?

this has quickly become my favorite youtube channel

Well researched video. Thanks for creating.

Masters of the Air was ultimately disappointing as a show. Thankfully, Operations Room exists to fill in all the missing details.

Did I hear that right? The leader of the diversionary raid had a problem with his plane and decided to return, and brought all the planes back with him? Could he not have passed command to a subordinate and had them carry on with the mission?

@berndrohlfs7397

18 күн бұрын

a reason might be that only the leading plane had a good navigator on board.

Once again well presented and a pleasure to watch. Great work.

The mortality rate for these airmen was astounding. The controversial aspect of this particular mission was the suicidal quality and the utter waste.

Remember kids, they ain't war crimes if you win.

@vijaymehra1101

22 күн бұрын

It's called war. It's bad.

To lose so much on an order to take out civilian targets... This whole mission just seems utterly wasteful...

Excellent as always, your narration and graphics make it really come alive. Wish movies could do these events half the justice your videos do.

Great video, thank you for sharing history.

As a former troop commander and commander of pilots, I could not conceive of sending men on such a suicide mission. "150 Belgians were deceased by mistake." Oh, well, that's okay then, right? One minute these people are incinerating babies from the air, and the next, they are asking for mercy after they parachute down in enemy territory. I don't think it's ever going to work that way.

@galimskyy8948

10 күн бұрын

It was World War, its not the same conflict as it it is in Ukraine or middle east

Highly recommend to visit Münster (it has been mostly re-built, beautiful city atm) and the city museum At the end of the war only a couple of hundreds inhabitants were there, the city was completely devastated (despite on not having military targets there)

One of the best episode of master of the air, thank you for this

Got me rewatching all the ww2 stuff again. Great episode!