It was 8 years ago you filmed this video, I purchased a Savage model 10 today chambered in 308 paid $899.00 for mine. Awesome video thanks

@MysticalLlama

2 жыл бұрын

Crazy how high the value for them is now

I've mounted enough scopes poorly to finally learn my lesson. Start out with the base, then the rings. About the 2nd time I did a great mounting job on a factory loose base I learned my lesson. I take the base off, then use a bit of blue lock-tite on everything going up. No more moving optics.

anybody else get the feeling that primary arms optics will be considered one of the top dogs in 10 to 15 years? it seems like they really got they're shit together...

@fulsame1

5 жыл бұрын

2 years later, we have the savage axis 2, an swfa SS fixed 10x, and any $100 one piece scope base and you have MOA accuracy for 750 buckeroos.

@thegreatoutdoors7610

3 жыл бұрын

Timhouse a year later we have anarchist taking over America...

@achilliez5565

3 жыл бұрын

@@thegreatoutdoors7610 hahaha

@boss350z5

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuagibson2520 Facts... them and Holosun have gotten thousands from me since I posted this comment... LOL

@teamperry757

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegreatoutdoors7610 a year later, over 1 billion guns sold, one patriot acquitted with a 3-0 record. All anarchist quiet.

The Primary Arms scope seems to be a winning choice! Nice series, looking forward to the wrap-up!

got to check out the SWFA SS 10x42. for $299 there is nothing else out there that can even come close. great optics, perfect turret adjustments, and not to mention as rugged as they come.

Glad to see Primary Arms coming through for the win, they have by far the best quality products for the money, and you just proved that. Great vid Tim!

Good show !! I took the same challange after a friend of mine spent huge $$$$ on an AI rifle and a SB scope. I bought the same Savage 10, but worked up my own load. 175 SMK over 42,4 gr of H4895 I did use la Bushnell 3.5-21X50 Elite 34mm tube & a G2 DMR FFP reticle. It is the nut behind the butt plate. at 71 years Ive been thet nut since 1962 . Paint and chrome don't get ya home.

Nice video Mac. Thanks for the heads up on the scope, you almost sold me. Going to check out a few of your viewer suggested ones as well....

Excellent video. My bud and I were giving some thought to building a 1000 yd rifle and you've given us new ideas. Thanks!

I love how long it takes the sound of the plate getting hit takes to get back to the camera.

Awesome, I was waiting for this video. Thanks for the consistent quality content.

I did this same build a year ago with the same exact rifle and ended up with the BSA 4X14 and have been happy with the results so far. Try the following scopes SWFA SS fixed power (IMO best value fixed scope on the market) BSA 4X14 FFP (only avaiable from Midway similar to the Primary Arms) Falcon Menace (the scope the PA and BSA seem to be based off of) Keep up the great videos!!

Another great video full of awesome info.Thanks for sharing.

Love the video. Also love you tried multiple optics. I am in this 1000-1500$ price range shopping as we speak and it's nice to see a rifle that will do it. Especially less than 600$. Thanks for the video. I think I just found my next rifle.

Thanks MAC for helping me decide on the PA scope for my budget build. I went with the Mossberg MVP Flex 7.62 for the rifle (on sale for $498). I can't wait to get her to the range.

Nice looking set up and a decent price range too.

I got the PA 1-6x 5.56 ACSS scope, love it so far! Im glad they are pumping out good quality stuff at a good price range. Great vids 👍👍

@gonzalez519

8 жыл бұрын

+Nicole Woodruff cool

I have that scope with the ACSS illuminated reticle, for $279.95 + the sunshade. IMO, it is outstanding, and the reticle is a big part of its attraction, along with the clarity. Thanks for your project. I intend to purchase a Savage 10T based on your results. Thus far I've used the scope on a 5.56 20" AR, 69 gr, and VG groups at 200yds with the 100 yd zero. With the dials noted, I'll zero the Primary Arms for both weapons.

Very good video and Very nice build.

Thanks for all your posts. I've learned a lot from them.

I know I’m late to the party here, but you really need to look into SWFA scopes. The fixed 10x and 12x are still (in 2018) right around $300! The are exceedingly tough and track with absolute precision. I understand that they are not variable power with fancy features, but the optical clarity is outstanding and they won’t break.

Thanks for these reviews. they help a lot as i decide which optic to go with on my dad's old .30-06. With the results you achieved, $229 is a great deal.

I personally have been very happy with the SWFA scopes in fixed 10X and fixed 16X in Mil/Mil configuration. Very good glass and great accurate adjustments that track reliably. Other than paying a grand or more for a scope these are great options to 1000 yards for $300. Cant beat the price

A fixed power scope is your friend in this quest for a budget of $1000. Check out Mueller, Weaver, or SWFA. I'm looking forward to the next installments in this series.

That's awesome! My setup is the savage Precision carbine with a SWFA Fixed 10x and I love it. Cheers!

Nice series and I enjoyed the project discussion. Unfortunately, I'm a bit critical of most consumer optics in general, often scoffing at budget glass. It was nice to hear that you were satisfied with a $229 scope! The only thing that could have made it better if if there not been any internal floaties or artifacts.

A good and honest review. Good job! The $1000 dollar cap was a good parameter.

Great Vid!! Nice shooting! Just starting to get into rifle shooting and these types of videos really help!!

OUTSTANDING presentation. Dude you're da man.

Primary arms makes fantastic value scopes.

I just ordered my Primary Arms 4x14 FFP scope!!! cant wait to put it on my Savage 10 FCP SR in 308!!! Thanks to this video i think I made the best choice for my budget. Thanks guys!!!

@spongebobsquarepant8848

4 жыл бұрын

How has it performed since?

Nice job that's a dang cool gun ur first video is what inspired me to get that .308 savage 10 but id got the fcp-k when I got to the range I was like what that's a bad boy I dig it man thanks for ur videos.

Thanks for the review. I'm seriously considering the FCP HS Precision with 24" barrel. It is currently running just under $1000 with certain distributors.

@joelcrmt

10 жыл бұрын

great to see you back in the mix of youtube! hopefully that means items health, family, and career are going well too :)

Thanks for this series. I have am opportunity to get a new Savage Model 10TR in .308 at an on-sale price that will leave something left over for other gear and still stay under the $1K. I had an older (2009) version of the Bushnell scope, same specs, on a Savage 12FTSS in .223, and it was an excellent performer. Sold it to a friend in a moment of weakness - he's still getting excellent service from it. Some of the scopes that people discuss on KZread as "budget" are either not easily available in Canada, or very, very costly. So, the range of choices is a bit different. I realize this series is now almost 4 years old, but everything you've mentioned is still applicable to putting together a $1K rifle that'll do 1000 metres. That's the hope, anyway! Thanks for posting.

I have liked all of the videos I have seen on your channel. You are very thorough and knowledgeable. I would like to see a similar video to this one only with a cheap standard ar15 build. Keep up the awesome videos.

I'm glad you did this video. I was thinking about getting the PA 4-14 for my 700 sps tactical because it fits my budget.

Thank you for trying to do this! There are alot of people that want to do this very same thing. I am going to try that Primary arms scope too but I am getting the newer one that cost a little more, "Primary Arms® New 4-14X44 Front Focal Plane Scope with Patented ACSS® Orion Reticle for .308/.223/30-0​6 Springfield $259.99". And I found a Savage 10 FCP-SR 24" barrel friday! I cant wait got to the range!!!! So thank you for help guide my choices! You were a big help!!

Great vid. Impressive shooting!

my buddy had a bushnell 2400 elite on his .223 bolt weatherby vanguard and same thing, we tried and tried to sight that bugger in and at 100 yrds and we would go two clicks down, no movement, another 2 then three and we ended up at the bottom of the turret and it was still sitting 6 inches high at 100 yards.... we couldn't get it to move down whatsoever, I haven't seen or heard the greatest things about bushnell optics and with my personal experiences and now this I don't think ill ever purchase one, thanks for the interesting video MAC!

Thanks MAC! I was looking for a good hunting rifle, et voila! You're the man.

finally I have been waiting for part 2

Primary Arms has some rock solid products. I own their CompM4 red dot clone and a 2.5x scope and love both. They have several new red/green dots worth checking out.

I have the Primary Arms Scope on my Ruger American in .270win . I'm no sharpshooter by any means but this combo works like a champ, I'm very satisfied with the setup.

Awesome video. Love the price point Info.

I went with the rem 700 sps tac and topped it with an swfa 10x42. The rem was 628 out the door and the glass with rings was 359 shipped to my house. Glass is really clear and crisp too!

Thanks for valuable info. Always enjoy your videos!

@Militaryarmschannel

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks, brother.

been about time to see the second part

Love the scope review because it is nice to learn in advance before you buy one, take it home and find out that it is not everything you expected.

Excellent video MAC, glad to see the project is working out. I have had really good luck with several SWFA Super Sniper scopes (now called SS I believe) and Vortex Viper’s when my budget has been tight. I have not tried nor heard of Primary Arms... I look forward to seeing the tracking tests with the PA scope. A other option in the market is always a good.

Primary arms products are super solid. Great video.

Great info, I too am building a 1000+ yd rifle, and now you have me thinking about my scope options. Was planning on going with the Vortex Viper Pst 6-24x50 ffp. But if the Primary Arms can deliver the results for 1/3 of the price I may be changing my mind. Thank you , as always for the Honest review of these products.

Background at 9:40...The moment when your buddy’s Civic is keeping up with the Lambo you just bought.

Waited so long for part 2!! But i guess indiana did have bad winter also.. Hope to see part 3 sooner!

@Militaryarmschannel

10 жыл бұрын

Part 3 will be putting the FFP through its paces. Confirming tracking and seeing how it holds up to heavy use.

awesome video thanks for doing the work on it!

Awesome! Thanks for posting!

Cool vid, thanks for putting in the work.

nice analysis of the problem. it must have been quite frustrating, but fun to figure out. it's still shooting :)

Love a Savage, That is a lot of Bang for the Buck

Primary Arms creates a great optic at a very reasonable price point in my experience!

I might suggest a fixed power SWFA SS. I believe our Navy uses the 10x, but for $300 you can get the 12x, 16x, or 20x scopes too. Better yet you can get adjustments and reticle both in mils. Although I probably have to pick up a couple Primary Arms FFP to replace my budget MOA/mils scopes.

Nice. Nice long flight time.

This video is a game changer for Primary Arms scopes!!!!! And just think when you said "If you have time to get to the Primary Arms" Almost never happened!

@deplorabledave1048

8 жыл бұрын

+Mark White Actually, since this video was made and some time before this was made, Primary Arms has been sky rocketing in their popularity. PA is about the ONLY company that has put respect into Chinese built optics. Their 50, 000 hour $170 red dots are making wavestoo. Check out the finest DMR reticle in the world, their own in-house ACSS. Phenomenal!

With some people there vids they blatantly lie about ranges 1,000 is actually 500 ect that’s why I love this guys because he never does you can tell when he fires you hear the steel 3 seconds later. And I love how he hit 1,000 yards with the $200 scope when the $450 one couldn’t

I have both the SWFA 10x and 3-15x and love them! Good glass, accurate adjustments and practically bullet proof. Don't get me wrong, I love my Euro optics, but nothing can touch the SWFA quality for their price.

Military Arms Channel scope problem solved swfa super sniper 10x mrad turrets and mil quad reticle. 299.00 any better fixed powered scope will cost you 1200.00 us optics

@MavHunter20XX

10 жыл бұрын

Got the same one except in 6x

@shooter77us

10 жыл бұрын

Damn right. I have a Savage 10FP in .223 with a 12x SWFA SS scope and SWFA rings. 1/2 minute groups all day long, and the occasional 1/4 minute groups. (with handloads).

I'm really glad your doing this video because I want to get into longer range shooting but I don't want to spend $2,000+ on a set up. If you can please do some more reviews on some more and better scopes

I'm looking at scopes in this price range. Great information! Thanks

excellent review!

I have this rifle with 24" HB and bushnell elite tactical 6-24-50 mounted on it crazy accurate for the money

@Military Arms Channel great series! I have a Savage model 10 LE I recommend the SWFA SS scope 299 you can't beat it! Next time you do a long range rifle series I highly recommend you do a review on the SWFA SS scope. They are a military spec optic and in my opinion are just as good as a Leupold mk4. I read the reviews prior to my purchase nothing but good reviews. The ONLY complaint I have with it that's it's 14" long to long to be mounted on my PTR-91 On the PTR-91 the charging handle rubs up against the bell. That's why on my PTR-91 I am looking at a couple of scope options for my DMR/hog gun project the Burris Mtac, the Leupold vxr patrol 3-9x40mm and the Leupold mk4 LR/T 4.5-14x40.

4:38 - I think I see the accuracy problem. I noticed a can of Mt Dew in the background. Every time a friend and I would shoot, he'd bring me a Mt Dew so my caffeinated trigger finger would be twitchin', so his shooting looked better by comparison.

Thank you very much for a great review.

I'm surprised you're not considering a SWFA 10X. I'm very happy with the quality. Mine tracks perfectly and has a crisp clear image. The best part is I bought it on sale for $269 including rings.

@toddcampbell5292

9 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy it? Top rated scope! Navy special ops specs, Gov contract number so the scope build or specs, cannot be changed without approval from US Navy.

@efisherman1

9 жыл бұрын

SWFA in Texas. They had a sale before Christmas. Scope, rings, and a bubble level for $269.95. I thought it was too good of a deal to pass on.

@toddcampbell5292

9 жыл бұрын

Yes it was.

Military Arms Channel You defiantly have to a review on ***** ACSS scopes! Awesome video!

SWFA 10x mil turrets mil reticle $299. Clear as it gets for the price. 50 cal rated. Had it on my Remington 700 5r .300wm.

@cachewild

10 жыл бұрын

I'll second that! Had the exact same setup. In my opinion I'd take the SWFA over these other scopes. Solid scope, solid turrets and tracking.

@michaelinman3595

6 жыл бұрын

Jimmy Struthers they don’t want to mention such 😂 it would take away from the mainstream retail.

"Loose nut behind the butt plate."- That's a good one, I'm gonna steal it if you don't mind...

One time I had occasion to talk to a Bushnell tech and he told me that the most common cause of a scope needing repair is that the rings were tightened to a higher torque than needed. Maybe that means they use a thinner tube material in their scopes. But that bit of information tells me something.

great video, and learning experience.

That Premier Rifle scope looks nice for the cost especially with a FFP. I'd like to see them make a FFP like the one but preferably in the 4-16x50 range and I would totally buy!

Oh welcome to my life! I'm doing the same project with the same rifle. Mounted a Nikon 6-18 Buckmasters, scope worked well for about 200 rounds then came loose inside. So I debated for a while and got a Vortex Viper 3-9 in MOA, which lasted for 2 rounds before it began to wander!!! No problem, I'll switch to my 10/22's instead, had a Nikon P-22 2-7 on it that lasted for 3-6 rounds, sent it back to midway in exchange for a Vortex Crossfire II... that one was defective also!!! WTF!!! Switched to an AR with a Vortex viper PST 1-4x24, got 50 rounds into it and shots started stringing horizontally... Problem? Not sure, but I've got to box up and return at least 3 more scopes for repair, 2 that NEVER WORKED from the start. I'm thinking Zeiss Conquest next, or a Leupy VX-2 3-9x40.

MAC, check out the Falcon Menace FFP 4-14X44 FALM14IR. It is very similar in features to the Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 for about half the price. I believe SWFA is the only US retailer that carries it.

Currently having the same issue with a weaver scope on my 700. If it continues this may be my next purchase. I truly appreciate the insight.

Hey Tim check out the SWFA SS line. Really good solid optic, good clarity,30mm tubes, positive tactile adjustments MIL/MIL Fixed 6,10,16,20X scopes for sub $300

Thanks for doing this!

Primary Arms is an excellent company please do more reviews on their stuff.

I have a Savage Law Enforcement Series Model 10 .308 Win in a Field Strike Cadex Chassis with a TRACT Toric 30mm FFP 4-20X50 MRAD PRS scope in a Spuhr 30mm Mount. And last a Terminator TT Brake. Obviously not a $1000 setup. More like a $4500 setup 😂 definitely a tack driver though as it should be. I added a Area 419 Arca Rail to the Chasis and shooting from a Tripod is on another level of awesome!

i have that same bushnell on my .22-250. i get sub MOA or better groups all day, i find it to be a great scope

Need a source for the Wheeler Fat Wrench. Great vids Tim Thank You for sharing and keep up the excellent work

@H43339

4 жыл бұрын

Check out Midway USA, they sell anything a gun can want, cheaper than most $$

Great vid! For glass clarity at a non-ridiculous price, have you tried Meopta? The Meopro scopes have excellent clarity, really really great to look through.

I have a Savage Model 10FP with a 24" heavy barrel and a Burris Fullfield II 3-9x50 w/BDC reticule that shoots like a dream... with hand loads. The Savage does poorly with most factory ammo, but once I started loading for it, my groups dropped to (no, I'm not lying) sub 1/4 MOA. 44.0gr of Varget behind a 168gr Hornady match bullet is magic. I am now wanting to upgrade my scope so that I can readily adjust out to 1000yds or more (I live at high elevation) but I'm not a MilRad guy. I have a Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFP w/MOA reticule on my .338 Lapua that I love, but that's almost a $1000 scope on its own, so I will have to look at some other alternatives.

***** tnoutdoor I have the FCP in the HS precision stock and handload for it. It is a very accurate rifle, with the Viper 6-24 FFP. Fantastic combo, but more like $2k. Anyway, you can't go wrong with that rifle.

Great topic for a video, and well done and very enjoyable. Thanks. I'm a big fan of the Savage rifles, but I'm trying to go you one better. I bought a 6.5 Creedmoor Thompson Center Compass for under $200 in a crazy promotion deal. I put a 4-14X Vortex scope on it and my goal is a half MOA rifle for under $350. My TFP (Tree Fiddy Precision) rifle. I may need a better scope and I may need to work up some hand loads to get an honest .5 MOA. Next up - range time.

I love the Primary Arms scope. I want the new 3-18×50.

Thanks for making this video. I can't wait to see your test on the PA FFP scope. Is this particular model Savage still in production? I can't find this model listed in Savage's website.

Well done!

I love my PA 1-6 ACSS, For the money you can't beat it!

I realize this is an older video but still i wish i had watched it sooner. I bought a Savage Axis in .270win that was barely used. The previous owner put a Bushnell on it and two different mounts on the rifle as well. Needless tl say i corrected that and am also having issues with the Bushnell scope getting it to consistently place shots. As soon as I am able I may look into a primary arms piece to replace it.

I have the 0 moa mounted, which I see will do for 1000 yards, but I'm going to get the 20moa when I start looking to reach out to 1 mile. Thanks for the reply!

Had to go back and find this video as I was just looking into getting into long range shooting and was looking at Savage 10s though I was getting talked up to 300 win mags if I want precision and reach apparently. Told the guys at the counter I want to afford to learn and not go broke zeroing lol

I really like mine with the ACSS reticle keep it up thanks