Fantastic video! De-ageing actors makes sense to me, but "bringing back" dead actors feels kind of wrong. What do you think?

@RocketRiley

Жыл бұрын

I think I’d be more okay with it if they signed some sort of contract before they died permitting studios to use their likeness in the future

@re1010

Жыл бұрын

It's only fine if 1. They signed off or 2. It's only a one time thing. Case I point, Harold Ramis's send off in Afterlife or Paul Walker's in Fast 7. It's meant to finish a story, and as long as it ain't used again after that, I'm fine.

@user-kt4zc5rb3m

Жыл бұрын

Nope, not in the least.

@brumm3653

Жыл бұрын

I think it's okay if done to bring back a character in a prequel or a flashback scene. Should be done sparringly though - essentially what they did in Rogue One (although the technology was not yet perfected back then). What should not be done (but no one wants it anyways) is inventing completely new characters "played" by dead actors.

@deraltehesse8632

Жыл бұрын

I would ask members of the family and make the whole thing dependent on their answers.

I thought this was hands down the best de-aging I have seen yet. He really looked like his young self. The opening act was phenomenal... like seeing Indy in his prime again.

@olivierguinard3350

Жыл бұрын

I thought so too, visually. I think there is still room for improvement for voice performance. He didn't sound like his younger self IMHO.

@middleman-theory

10 ай бұрын

Nothing beats Shamook's Han Solo deepfake for Solo a star wars story. Look it up. Compared to that ,this is pretty MEH.

@squamish4244

4 ай бұрын

My jaw dropped. I hadn't seen this Ford in a LONG time. He was 45 years old again - he was the Harrison Ford of The Last Crusade who rode off into the sunset, except now, a few years later, a WW2 spy. As Indy would have been. Great opening to a great film.

I don't think Rogue One used deepfake, it used traditional 3d modelling.

@jabbadac

Жыл бұрын

Yep!

This was the best De-Aging CGI effect I have ever seen

De-aging is Indy 5:s least problem.

@matheusrangel7363

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. The low point of Indi 5 for me is the first action scene, when he face looks weird most of the time. I like the approach of him being old and tired, I think they find the right tone for this movie. I have no problem with a strong “female character” or convenient plots, because old Indi movies had that too and they are great anyway.

@shyboy2112

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. And as long as people praise these movies, these movies is what we will get. But seeing how badly it is bombing at the box office, maybe there's hope.

This was phenomenal and I 100% support it. Having "young" indy in the movie was amazing for the story.

My understanding was that it wasn't just deepfake. They used a lot of stock footage they had of Harrison Ford. So i think it was a combination. There were some shots looked like remastered footage, until he spoke. There were a couple of times that it looked a bit unnatural, but overall, i was impressed with the blended technology.

@panathentic

4 ай бұрын

Here's some clarification. GOOD deepfakes need hours of the highest quality footage to train off of to get a face looking realistic, as it absolutely had to for this film. Instead of just training the model off of Indiana Jones 1 2 and 3, they also used any existing footage of Harrison Ford form the same time frame, including deleted scenes, outtakes, alternative takes, bloopers, other projects such as starwars, and stock photographs of him from that time. they fed ALL of this information into the Deep Learning algorithm so that it would have solid reference for almost any lighting, any expression, and any angle of his face. This is how the stock footage was used.

I see deep fakes as a tool that, when used appropriately, can do a lot of good for a movie. Just like all the other tools in the box, mostly CGI, which can be used to enhance a movie - or completely destroy it if over used. I think it worked well in Indy 5.

I'm all for it and I think the technology would've worked better for resurrecting Peter Cushing and Carrie Fisher in Rogue One, if the CGI artists used this approach, mining actual footage of the actors, instead of trying to recreate their likenesses from scratch.

They should make a TV series with Indiana Jones using this technology.

@sh0wbiz

Жыл бұрын

Would cost a fortune

@nintomdo9977

Жыл бұрын

That would cost a lot and take a lot of work but I’m down for this

@lbboardingb3356

Жыл бұрын

No, no they should not. There were 3 great movies. That's it. Let it die and be remembered as such.

@twinkthatloveslotrtrilogy7676

Жыл бұрын

​@@lbboardingb3356yeah

@EasyZee69

Жыл бұрын

As long as the writing is good, and it's fun to watch. I'm in.

I don't know what's with the others complaining about de aging faces of characters in shows. I don't mind at all. I don't even mind seeing a younger versions of the movie stars even it's fake.

They did an incredible work de-aging him, it looked so real in the movie, can't complain, i liked it.

The de-aging effect looks okay & believable on the most part. But as someone who grew up with Harrison Ford movies, I noticed that his voice got deeper as he aged. And they didn't do anything to his voice. So it's kinda funny to see the old man voice coming out from the young Ford., it's like watching a lipsync.

@gamestation2690

10 ай бұрын

Maybe the character had a frog in his throat that day.

The de-aging algorithm was so good that not until old Indy showed up, I realized that "Yeah right, Harry is 80 years old already, that young one was him or a double with CGI". And I'm glad it was all him acting the whole scene.

I think Hollywood should looking into deals licensing the face of characters for future use without them. It could be lucrative for actors, as it could generate income each time their likeness is used in the future (without them even having to work) and could even be written into contracts as willable to their children.

@dopekoopa9437

Жыл бұрын

This is basically what happens in black mirror season 6 episode joan is awful. Lol :)

as long as the subject (actor) agrees to be "AI-ed" Carrie Fisher passed in the middle of her film and I gather her family approved the process

Honestly, I have a bigger problem with NOT de-aging actors' characters, because the older look is incongruent with the time of the story being told. Let's also consider that CGI "still" has a long way to go. The lions in the upcoming "Kraven The Hunter", clearly look like CGI fakes, and this film is being made with a massive budget. So, I applaud any de-aging of humans that looks better than the false-looking CGI animals that we often see.

@EmperorSarco

Жыл бұрын

CGI animals tend to be animated unrealistically.

@strawberrysunburst6113

11 ай бұрын

CGI quality has been declining because some pieces are rushed into production. Have you ever seen the CGI from Pirates of The Caribbean? Now compare their CGI to recent installments from 2023 like The Flash or some Marvel movie. The difference is so noticeable, with the recent CGI looking like it came from the 90s instead of actually looking advance. There are some notable exceptions like the Godzilla vs. King Kong but for me, a movie that came from the 2007s looks superior over than the current 2023 movies. Any movies that came from 2005 - 2011 are bound to have superior looking CGI.

I think the de-aging looks great in this film. And I think it’s applied so well to the story line.

I loved the new Indy film. It was the first time i've been out to see a film in the cinema and i had such a great eveing. The movie really paid homage to the originals and brought some exciting new stuff to the table.

I have no problem with using imaging tools to perform flashbacks and earlier storylines. Now maybe they can fill in the huge year gap between Indiana Jones films up until the Crystal Skulls.

Perfect example of putting deepfake into good use instead of other craps that I had seen.

The best de-aging I've ever seen was Sean Young's Rachel in Blade Runner 2049.

mujhe starting main movie dekh kr lga ki harrison ford phele jaise jwan 'young" kaise ho gye or dekh kr such main apne purane din yaad gye ki phele jesi movies kmal ki hain inki

I always wondered why de aging or deepfakes in Marvels are so good when in Lucasfilms they are average. That will be very nice they edit those "average" scenes in the future.

Such technologies are a blessing to the movie industry . The process of de-aging with makeup will be so hectic and time consuming.

As far as i know Harrison Ford takes 25 million upfront and then gets a % of the film's grosses which made him a total of 65 million for Indy 4.I don't really believe that Disney decided to spend 100 million just to make Ford young again.

They could deepfake his face but not his voice? That was a huge mistake. Deep faking voice is extremely cheap. The number one complaint I heard was his old voice did not match his young face. But I also heard the face swap as sloppy. What this points to is the problem when you upscale a computer image that was modded on a computer monitor, to a huge movie screen. On the movie screen you see absolutely every flaw. This is why the old movies are so special. Where all the colors and exposures were perfect. All of the images were perfectly managed because that was all done in excruciating detail real time on site when the movie was shot. That level of perfection is what was actually captured on film. Not manipulated into the film after it was shot. I have heard several people say it would have made so much more sense to find a young actor to play a young Indiana Jones. Some new talent that could have given the franchise another forty years of life. Not a gender swap social warrior. A real adventurer with a moral compass and pathos and appreciation for the people around him. I would like to see one more Indiana Jones movie with Steven Spielberg directing it and Kathleen Kennedy nowhere around the entire country it was shot in. And the young actor could hold his own and maybe old Indy could do a cameo. It would actually make a funny scene where the young actor looked in a mirror under the influence of some South American tribal mushroom drink and saw the real Harrison Ford looking back at him. And Old Harrison Ford scolding him for being so lazy and letting the bad guys get the best of him (up until then). I think this movie could have saved 100 million dollars and made THREE billion dollars by just giving other actors a chance to shine and especially by writing a script that actually loved the Indiana Jones legacy and characters. This was a terribly missed opportunity to do it right one last time. More CGI is never the answer to poor filmmaking.

@TalkingBook72

Жыл бұрын

That was my issue with it. I thought the deaging looked great but couldn't get past hearing his 80 year old voice with the younger face

@bsellers07

Жыл бұрын

@@TalkingBook72 Same. Having binged watched the series, the older voice with the younger face took me out of the scenes.

@debbiemcghee6617

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely not. Harrison Ford IS AND WILL ONLY BE Indian Jones! You can make earlier movies with a younger actor but ending the legacy of these films should ONLY BE PLAYED BY THE MAN THAT MADE THEM WHAT THERE ARE!!

Harrison has explained Lucasfilm took footage of him from their files to make up the character at the beginning of the film Indy younger

Replace Zeta jones in the Terminal and Mask of Zorro. I love this.

I've seen a lot reviewers criticizing the de-aging but compared to what they were able to do back in the 80s this is pretty amazing.

One thing I don't understand about all CGI of de-aging of Harrison Ford and all other face CGI: Still the blinking of the eyes is slower than the real one. Why????

The Indian Jones Movies have been some of the best movies of all time. Some better than others but Harris Ford IS Indian Jones. Using this technology to make the final movie is absolutely acceptable. It is using images of the same man. Even at 80 Harrison Ford is a handsome man. Even at 80 to do this movie is incredible. I am in full support of just another tool that has been used in movies for years to create images. I cant think of a better way to end a the Indian Jones legacy!

@Linda-pg3so

10 ай бұрын

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@machinegunk5090

7 ай бұрын

Indiana.

I loved the movie. I’m glad they did all the magic.

The entire movie should have been a deep-fake with a de-aged Harrison Ford tbh.

Surely his younger face was taken from either Hanover Street or Force 10 from Navarone

I loved it, he was my first crush in Temple of Doom, so I'm very happy to see him again in a new movie. And this opens a door for my dream of "Fate of Atlantis, the movie" come true.

I don't know if they actually used deepfakes as good as youtubers like shamook. Seems like they used a similar process but not deep face lab. Lucasfilm's process is not even close to looking as real at least for certain shots.

I finally saw it and it looked good when he did not speak, but whenever he did, it looked like a video game cut scene and whenever he was in low light, it didn’t look right and seemed sharper and not quite integrated with anything else in the frame - see the bike chase close up of him going towards the train as an example. Definitely the technology has come a log way, but still not quite there yet.

I want to see Bogart in modern clothing maybe in a scifi detective movie.

Rather than pay $65M for Harrison Ford, just use a stand-in and deep fake his face to look like Harrison Ford.

this is amazing! black mirror season 6 espiode 1 - this is exactly it! aging actors will give their permission to use their younger faces in movies/tv shows but i wonder, in order to shoot this do you need someone whos face resemble the original actor, or can this be done by anyone?

De-aging technology rocks! I hope soon it becomes available on our smart phone recording device. LOL

it was DAVID KOEPP & STEVEN SPIELBERG decision to use this tech. !!

Leia looked pretty good in Rogue One. Now Tarkin looks like CGI

The same people/accountants that told us that the pentagon was spending $10,000 on a hammer or a toilet seat, are the same ones hiding money for these movie studios today...

The biggest chunk of the budget went to Ford, that's why he was happy to do it.

And you wonder why actors are worried about AI..

I thought that the de-aging worked really well for this movie.

I dont get why fans seemed upset that they used deepfakes, for one, they only rlly used it for the beginning of the movie, two, i think it was incredible how they did it, i loved the movie very much, it was very enjoyable

I can´t get enough of Harrison Ford, I love this actor.

Absolutely fantastic.. it's such a pity that Baz didn't use this technology in the Elvis biopic movie, No offence Austin..

Its so creative and i love it that their talent is not wasted

I've already predicted that this will end acting as we know it. Just like Ai art. This will likely be the last generation of new actors.

Okay, they got the digital de-aging figured out, now they just need to do it in real life. Biologists, that's your next big challenge. Let's do this.

How is the deep-fake technology in 'Indiana Jones & the Dial of Destiny' expensive in a movie, when Tik Tokers can do it for free? My guess is most of the $300 million budget went to CGi sets, environments & reshoots.

Yeah, no...his voice did not sound at all like they de-aged it. It sounds like an 80 year old man with a 40-something's face and body. In fact, I highly doubt they did _anything_ for it. Mark Hammil in Season 2 of the Mandalorin is an example of how to correctly de-age someone's voice: you have the actor say the line, then use AI to dub over their voice using samples taken from audio recordings of them during younger stages of their career.

It's "ree-PREESE," not re-"prize."

I saw the movie today. Great job with the de-aging AI technology. Technically it was very impressive.

They did an excellent job. Very hard to criticise. Only faults were the motion where some scenes were not human such as the train top scene.

His voice didn't sound younger at all. It sounded old and hoarse which made it so jarring when it was the younger Indy.

300 million dollars. 😕Hmmm. 🤔 I wonder what good COULD have been done for 3,000,000 people if they'd simply given them all $100 or $1000 or whatever. And simply re-screened "Last Crusade". Now *that* was an emotionally powerful film. What a shame.

some one is getting really reach because of that technology , thats for sure

Use Anthony Ingruber as younger Harrison Ford. Ingruber made a Han Solo video.

Beyond the fact this technology being stupid, the premise of the latest IJ movie was absurd

The illusion is gone once he started to move and talk. LOL!

I just saw the latest Indiana Jones movie today, and I loved it! It was so creative and entertaining

@Novastar.SaberCombat

Жыл бұрын

Truly? Other than the first 12-24 minutes, you truly felt it was an excellent experience? 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

@scpfoundation9341

Жыл бұрын

@@Novastar.SaberCombat I loved this film too, imo it was great

@pleasantvalleypickerca7681

Жыл бұрын

It was good. Much better than Crystal Skull.

Some parts were pretty bad actually, during the bomb scene he looked like Willem Dafoe

I think it looks brilliant and opens up endless possibilities

This is an incredible mark of irrespect.

I just saw the movie. Since I knew nothing about the movie beforehand (other than it's Indiana Jones) I had no idea how they made a younger Indy. I just assumed that I'm watching some younger actor that looks A LOT like Harrison Ford. Well, turns out it *was* Harrison Ford wearing a CGI mask over his face. Looked great and I see nothing wrong in it.

I think they have to recognize ageing process is natural and we all go there unless we get hit by a truck and drop dead. Let aging to be an acceptable reallity even in Hollywooder

I saw the movie yesterday, I was 21 when Raiders of the Lost Ark came out, now I am 63, De-Age me please !

@vishveshtadsare3160

Жыл бұрын

Oh my

DE-aging is what helped bloat the budget for this film, when a highschool student can do it for free in about a weekend with a $1,200 computer? That's odd. My vote is Kathleen has a big brand new boat.

@artlover5952

8 ай бұрын

The complexitiy of the scene would have been very hard for a highschool student. They also used a 3d model of his entire head (instead of a simple deepfake) and did a lot of additional composite work.

I wish I had access to this technology.

Maybe de-aging looked better in movies where the screen is far, but on QHD screen, it not always looked realistic.

actors have very complex facial expressions to convey their emotions which deep fake does not understand

The majority of younger H Ford was archive footage, outtakes etc. Minimal computer work. Also deepfake wasn't used for Tarkin in Rogue One.

@masterwerneck

Жыл бұрын

No man you are wrong, they didn't use archive footage, everything on flashback scenes was made from zero using CGI stuff.

Hiring a "younger version of an actor" would require genetic engineering and cloning. I don't think we are quite there yet. 😂

No more millionaire actors - it is a mogul producer’s dream, they will become Micky Mouse

But they forgot to digitally fix his voice…

4:35 Judging from this plane crash, it is a low budget production.

I think the end result looked like a younger unfit indiana jones that had put on a bit of weight.

Are you saying they spent a loo million on his face and 152 million more on film wow😮

It looked good but sometimes it felt like the effect was getting off his face like those snapchat filters

What's sad is that they couldn't fix his eighty-year-old voice

De-aged Harrison Ford looks far better than de-aged Robert De Niro.

This is one of the reason for the strike

Now actors faces are going to have patents rights

Question - if it's so damned expensive to do, how come sole individuals can do it so well on a shoestring. I'm sure ILM added bells and whistles, but still... Also I respect there's more screentime rather than a 30 second clip, but...

De-Aged but a 80 year okd voice on a 40 year old Ford

I like Deep fake. It's fascinating!

they can de aged the main actor but they can't de aged a 40 years old franchise. indiana jones run its course.

When KZreadrs make better deepfakes than major movie studios.

Was Rogue One de-aging? I thought it was traditional CGI face replacement?

What a waste of money...they should have spent it on a script

Harrison Ford: Likes the tech that made him look younger Fans: This is disrespectful to Harrison Ford Me: WTH

It doesn't matter how much they spend as it forever, so always makes money even years after his death.

Dial of Destiny is a DAAAAAMN good Indiana Jones film. IGNORE THE HATE PEOPLE!!! If your a fan of the other films this may well be your favorite sequel. NO JOKE!!! ITS EPIC AND SATISFYING!!! Great ending to the saga!

@pleasantvalleypickerca7681

Жыл бұрын

Agree. It's really good all the hate channels are lying and misrepesenting the film as something it isn't. Glad I have a mind of my own and actuially watch something before critizising it.

@themobseat

Жыл бұрын

Dial of destiny makes Indiana Jones a costar in his own movie. Did you go to the movie with your wife's boyfriend?

@duringmydeath

Жыл бұрын

@@themobseat What the hell are you talking about? He LEADS THE FILM HANDS DOWN! He has the most dialogue. The most scenes. The most action. He is 100% the reason to see the movie. You are just out and out lying. The film is excellent. Too bad you let others decide what is good for you. Its truly pathetic how ridiculous what you wrote is. Unreal.

How could it be disrespectful to Harrison Fords legacy? People don't think he knows that they're de-aging him in a movie he stars in? What's disrespectful is that they keep making these bloody movies for all the wrong reasons and ruining yet another franchise in the process. Who asked for another Indiana Jones after the 3rd except Harrison Ford? I liked him better when he used to have integrity and turned down projects. But at some point in his career he said "screw it" and made more Indy films, Star Wars and was even in Expendables 3... His legacy was tarnished long before they deep faked his face.

The best young Indy is River Phoenix.