Without watching the video, #1 is definitely how many people remember Chael Sonnen losing to Anderson Silva twice, when he in fact defeated the Spider twice. Undefeated and undisputed, never even lost a round.

@AmazingDOR

2 жыл бұрын

Never lost!

@Allinone_MMA

2 жыл бұрын

Bro legit he won 50-45 LOL how do people forget! Chael P the great!

@maxius4567

2 жыл бұрын

Chael P. Sonnen, the P stands for perfection.

@chrismogard4144

2 жыл бұрын

From the mean streets of West Linn.

@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights

2 жыл бұрын

@@Allinone_MMA No Chael lost the final round but won the other 4 so it's 49-46 Although clearly the 4 Chael won were 10-8 so 49-42

We need a list of "The greatest single strikes that didnt end the fight" that would be awesome

@benrush7090

2 жыл бұрын

Jones spinning elbow on Stephan Bonnar. Any fight involving Frankie Edgar getting hit.

@cadenbaze

2 жыл бұрын

Dillashaw overhand vs Barao

@jaye2491

2 жыл бұрын

Showtime kick 👌👌

@Cyrenaika98

2 жыл бұрын

JJ kicking DC in the head in the second fight

@conorl1894

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaye2491 this right here

It really is amazing how often I’ve seen people call the Showtime kick the greatest KO in UFC history.... .....And then I have to tell them, it didn’t even happen in the UFC.... ...and it wasn’t a Knockout.

@rhodwilliams7258

2 жыл бұрын

...and it wasn't even a kick. Oh wait. It was. Sorry, I just wanted to join in 😔 😂😂😂

@TheMikeskillz

2 жыл бұрын

@@rhodwilliams7258 ...and it wasn’t on showtime😂😂

@benrush7090

2 жыл бұрын

Or that Ben Henderson's kicks are probably more exciting

@RemnantPriest

2 жыл бұрын

Was the greatest Knock down of al time for sure though, def not a knockout though

@nah9538

2 жыл бұрын

If that kick had happened in the UFC in 2021 it would’ve probably been a KO

The biggest issue I have with the GSP Hendricks fight was the fact they’d had a gentleman’s agreement to be tested for steroids and Hendricks backed out and with his later troubles it just seemed weird.

@nutman3698

2 жыл бұрын

@@mike-le2xp 100%

@DarthJacobi

2 жыл бұрын

That’s why everyone dropped that Hendricks should have won was because it became so obvious that Hendricks was more juiced than Tropicana

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

@@mike-le2xp and also, seeing how it went for hendricks afterwards, thank fucking god GSP got that decision, even if he did retire after.

@madgavin7568

2 жыл бұрын

@@mike-le2xp And GSP wasn't also juiced? You can't convince he wasn't also on something, a clean athlete beating juiceheads? That's a story way too good to be true. Anyway, the damage Hendricks inflicted on GSP in the first round makes for a very credible argument that he won the round and thus extension, the fight.

@squadabingo9113

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve watch the fights so many times including very recently. Hendricks was probably juiced. Hendricks won very clearly and decisively

The Rory vs Robbie I think you’re remembering it wrong. The crowd wasn’t booing, they were saying boourns boooourns

@ezzabig7

2 жыл бұрын

My name is Hans Moleman and I was saying Boourns

@hersonflores8832

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

“Stop the fight” Is still a legendary soundbite

@aplus1080

2 жыл бұрын

I love hardy more than ever after that. Bums me out he was released.

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

@@aplus1080 opposite for me. Cant stand Dan "im smarter than everyone" Hardy. Hope he does that come back fight hes talking about and gets smoked. I mean he sucked in his prime, so no tellin how he'll be now

@TR13400

2 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabizwacks6711 so you think that was a good stoppage?

I think people look over the Hendrix fight nowadays because we all know Hendrix was roided to the gills pre USADA and saw his decline right after it was implemented.

@ziggyjuarez8544

2 жыл бұрын

And gsp only had 1 fight after also. It's common knowledge. Everyone is on steroids

@loicbergeron8188

4 ай бұрын

@@ziggyjuarez8544if GSP was juicing them why was he lobbying for better testing all the time?

When I first got into MMA I thought Jeremy Stephens & Sam Stout were the same person. My mind was FUCKED when I found out they fought each other.

@thomasbuchovecky171

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@notproductiveproductions3504

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@Dukeflyhawker

2 жыл бұрын

But they look nothing alike. Similar hair cut at best

@DarkLordofTheSith69

2 жыл бұрын

But they don't even look the same 🤣

@descinerate6815

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dukeflyhawker is it just me or he looks kinda like ben askren

Hot take: Yamasaki’s stoppage in Chiesa vs Lee was technically a premature stoppage because Chiesa didnt tap or go to sleep but 1) Chiesa flapped out his arms like he went to sleep and in that split second Yamasaki stopped it 2) Chiesa wasn’t going to get out of that anyways so Mario just ended the fight 20 seconds before it was going to end anyways

@ryanpark9723

11 ай бұрын

More like 2 seconds

I'm so glad you're calling out Mandela Effect as a fancy new way for people to get out of admitting "I was mistaken"

@alugificator

2 жыл бұрын

Aye, it's not supernatural. Human memory is just notoriously shitty.

@re_i_gn

2 жыл бұрын

@UCOy_t0jczxQ6MvPX4enp2ew "Mandela effect" shouldn't ever be used at all, because it's not real and never will be. People just use it for facts that are of very little to no value for them, so of course they'll just go "yeah, that's how it went" when presented with the idea that Mandela died in prison or the Berenstain bears was called "Berenstein bears". But ask the thousands of people who have actually studied the life of Nelson Mandela, or the people who have directly worked on the Berenstain Bears show, and they won't misremember any of that information. That term is total bullshit and it just feeds to people's ideas of fantasies and alternate realities.

@GlennDavey

2 жыл бұрын

@@re_i_gn yeh what I said

@re_i_gn

2 жыл бұрын

@@GlennDavey yeah I was replying to a guy defending it but he deleted the comment lol

@6nosis

2 жыл бұрын

Question for the geniuses; My whole life in Bible study class -the phrase goes as follows; and we’ve each of us had to read it a million times: “and the LION SHALL LAY DOWN WITH THE LAMB”…..,CORRECT? This one is too easy and it’s meant as a warm up. I myself remember reading this direct word for word quote from the King James Bible , no less than 1000 times.

I loved the entirety of Rory vs Robbie personally. I've rewatched it several times and even the slow pace at the beginning was excited to me. Maybe it's cause i really love Robbie 😂

@seanmmachannel

2 жыл бұрын

It’s probably cause you know the fight is gonna get wild, but watching it live I agree with the video that it wasn’t super exciting until the 3rd round

@rondabon6737

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanmmachannel yup when I first saw the fight I was like this the fight everyone calls the greatest? And then came round 3 and the overall fight was really good one of the greatest fights of all time but the first 2 rounds were really slow paced

@alugificator

2 жыл бұрын

It builds in intensity as the fight goes on. Most fights go the other way as fighters get fatigued. I think that's what makes it stand out, apart from the sheer brutality.

Glad to see the Pettis one here. I've argued with my friends in the past about it, especially when we're talking about the greatest knockouts of all time.

@noelcontreras9909

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yea that one kills me every time I see it on best KO videos

@Sacrilege83

2 жыл бұрын

That's when you make friendly $20 bets before showing them the video evidence.

@ryancarpenter2060

2 жыл бұрын

You can probably also add it wasn’t in the UFC. I don’t know if it’s true, but I bet there’s a large amount of filthy casuals who believe it happened in the UFC with Henderson being a former champ and all.

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

i actually had Henderson winning that fight. And if there is any moment rigged in ufc ever, it was that cage kick. But either way, it knocked bendo down because of how he was moving backwards. He popped right back up and the kick didnt even effect him that bad. It looked cool, thats it. Had nothing on it

"Round 3 was ok for the most part": biggest understatement

@CoolHandLuke7

2 жыл бұрын

Tommy is forfeiting his MMA fan cred with this whopper.

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

what do you expect out of a more commercial style channel like this. Its not like this guy has ever been some mma authority or anything, they do top 10 lists for views and after a while its hard to come up with shit to manifest top 10s out of. This channel cant be taken tll seriously

@thememeconnoisseur4088

2 жыл бұрын

As far as single rounds go it wouldn't even make the top 20 from the last decade

@thememeconnoisseur4088

2 жыл бұрын

@@CoolHandLuke7 it's nothing special

Until I watched it the full fight, I'd always assumed Edson Barboza was kicking the crap out of Terry Etim before he hit him with that heel kick KO, but the fight was actually fairly competitive. Right up until it wasn't.

@russell2890

2 жыл бұрын

That wasn't a Mandela effect though. You were just misinformed.

My MMA Mandela effect was that I remember Ortega being the interim champion.

@muzha2107

2 жыл бұрын

Ayyy same lmao

@I_barely_know

2 жыл бұрын

He wasn’t?

@jasonvoorhees2916

2 жыл бұрын

Bro what 😭😭😭 why tf you think that 💀💀

@muzha2107

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonvoorhees2916 I thought he won it after frankie 😂😂

@jasonvoorhees2916

2 жыл бұрын

@@muzha2107 😂😂

Honestly I feel like some of the misremembered moments was caused by you guys...MMA on point lol

@Pelgurzan

2 жыл бұрын

they misremembered the hardy situation a little bit. Hardy actually initiated the exchange with herb by saying "that's 2" ( inferring that it was the second time herb had a late stoppage in the card.) That's when herb told hardy to be quiet.

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

yea and not only that, didnt hardy actually initiate the confrontation by yelling "stop the fight"?? like wtf lol

@johnallen6836

2 жыл бұрын

i’ve been looking for this comment for so long. i love the MMA on point team and i love what they do. but half of these are ones they didn’t choose too explain in previous videos

In lawler vs macdonald the first round was then feeling each other out but still Macdonald landed 24 significant strikers, Lawler landed 14, round 2 they opened up more and the fans even cheered after the round, round 3 had one of the best takedown defenses I’ve ever seen plus an amazing end to the round, round 4 was an absolute slug fest and of course the stare down, and round 5 had the finish which showed how great of a battle it was. Best fight I’ve ever seen

@joaquincuellar591

2 жыл бұрын

Usman vs Covington 1 will guarantee to change your opinion.

@KingDuppy

2 жыл бұрын

Both those fights sucked. Lawler vs Macdonald had 1 1/2 good rounds. Covington vs usman 1 is almost as bad as askren vs maia

@jackmarples6029

2 жыл бұрын

@@KingDuppy you definitely aren’t a fan of the sport if you think that

@KingDuppy

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackmarples6029 I mean it wasn't that bad, but it was nowhere near as good as people say. Sure they were on their feet the whole time, but their level of striking was way below what it is today and as a fan of the more technical parts of the game, it wasn't that good to me. I don't see how people forget Figuereido vs Moreno 1, that was a way better fight imo

@colindowden2182

2 жыл бұрын

@@KingDuppy Say the fight sucked, then say it wasn't bad, which one is it dude, and what weed are you smoking to even compare Usman vs Colby 1 to Askren vs Maia, when Askren couldn't throw a punch to save his life, that's such a stupid comparison.

I’ve actually never heard anyone say the showtime kick was a knockout. That’s a new one

GSP had 2 guillotine attempts, Hendricks did nothing with his control time or takedowns. It basically comes down to control time + elbows vs. 2 guillotines. I have GSP winning that

@djsmackz

2 жыл бұрын

Me too! Plus Hendricks was certainly on the 🧃!

@joshclaymore4313

2 жыл бұрын

I hate the control part of these fights...its like, you can just lay on a person and win...like GSP did....so get some super heavyweights and lets watch em go at it.

@MJsPepsihair

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure you can give someone too many points just for attempts

@marktaft

Жыл бұрын

Please don't ever judge an MMA match

@jameswoodard9510

Жыл бұрын

You don’t get credit for attempted submissions

“Miesha was losing her fight to Holly big time” it was 2-2 going into round 5 imo. “Khabib has dominated every fight” it was like his second or third fight in the ufc and Joe rogan or another announcer was really surprised that Khabib won when they announced the judges decision. Joe thought khabib lost the fight.

@skipper4126

2 жыл бұрын

that meisha holly fight was interesting.. I mean Holly might've been winning the fight but I don't recall it being dominant.. just what it was. Meisha was struggling to close the gap.. least she didn't go stupid trying to box with her and getting head kicked.

@LTProductions335

2 жыл бұрын

Your talking about the Gleason tibau fight. I honestly think khabib got that one done IMO.

@alugificator

2 жыл бұрын

Holly officially out-struck Miesha in rounds 1,3,4, and 5. She was absolutely winning that fight before the submission.

@bigdaddyd6700

2 жыл бұрын

Khabib did win the fight...BUT its wild how much praise he gets when hes only fought 1 wrestler out of his 10 fights and it was close enough for the commentators to be surprised. And yeah I said 10 fights. I've watched every khabib fight since he signed with the ufc. After tibeua (his second fight) hes 12-0. Two fights later hes 23-0. 2 more fights and hes the goat 29-0. Anyone who disagrees cant list all 29 of his wins below

@sketch3744

2 жыл бұрын

Khabib literally did dominate everyone though. Fun fact: Khabib has only ever lost 1 round in the UFC on the judges cards and that was round 3 vs Connor. If winning every round except 1 over your entire career isn't dominating everyone then idk wtf is.

I didn't misremember the showtime kick itself but I misremembered when it happened in the fight. I thought there was less than 30 seconds left in that fight and that's when he did it. I also remember that particular fight being the last WEC fight ever. The WEC was going to be absorbed into the UFC following that event.

@jeefsquaa

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I remember them fighting for the belt and it being important as it was the last we fight ...

Idk about the Yamasaki one. Long before the coecheria fight even in not big moments through a night you’ll see him making constant mistakes and making weird decisions throughout the fight.

@benrushani4006

2 жыл бұрын

Someone is getting choked and Yamasaki is off thinking about his grocery shopping - Dana White

@branlopgar

2 жыл бұрын

@@benrushani4006 That's Mazzagatti during the Burkman vs Fitch rematch at WSOF

@eetfuk3571

2 жыл бұрын

@@benrushani4006 that's Steve Mazzagatti you'e horribly wrong. Mario Yamasaki is an angel compared to Steve Mazzagatti.

@Domitianvs

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The UFC kept him on way longer than they should've.

@warcraft-px5zq

2 жыл бұрын

He was right in the chiesa fight though, idc what anybody says

I remember Alex going Forward, Down, Forward HP on JBJ and performing his fatality. But that's just how it happened in my timeline.

Disagree with the Hardy-Dean one, I think that incident was the beginning of the end for Hardy and that Dana had the situation wrong in his head from what he said in the press conference afterwards. Hardy disagreeing with the UFC staff member was probably the final nail in the coffin, but not many people know what happened there.

@ballinboxer3676

2 жыл бұрын

How can you disagree with a fact? MANY people think that Hardy got axed after his confrontation with Dean when in fact Hardy didn't get fired until half a year later.

@IAmPez

2 жыл бұрын

lol, do you see this guy "Dark" basically copy and pasting your opinion as their own on here? They didn't even try to hide it, just very slightly changed a word or 2.

@Rocko1990

2 жыл бұрын

@@IAmPez or maybe he copied dark...hence the lack of reply, possibly...

@IAmPez

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rocko1990 No, the timestamp shows this one came 7hrs before.

@ajohnson5451

2 жыл бұрын

@@ballinboxer3676 while that is correct it was some months later but his time commentating for the UFC after that was practically zero to minimal. I think most people thought he was still in hot water as a result. In my mind it was the beginning of the end.

"By 2013 Jon Jones had become a bit of a villain in the MMA community". Damn! It's been that long? That's some Mandela effect.

@num1Jaysta

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah time flies

Jon Jones' "Perceived fakeness" LMFAO

@dylanreh2010

2 жыл бұрын

at this point we can just say "fakeness"

I'm surprised that Chael Vs Anderson isn't #1. People still think Chael actually lost that fight!

@Elchinoalto

2 жыл бұрын

I think everyone one knows Silva woulda lost if not for Chanel getting finished before the fifth round ended or else it woulda been a UD to chael

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

and knowing chael, hes the one guy that would maybe throw a fight to set himself up for a rematch and another payday lol. And if he didnt, then that was one of the stupidest things to do and get caught in in the history of mma if you take all the factors surrounding it into account

I think most mma fans know the showtime kick wasn't a knockout to be honest 🙏

@kylecarpenter4341

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen many people even try to convince me it was a ko 😭😭

@pstratos7

2 жыл бұрын

If only because On Point MMA mention it in every other video

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

that kick was the first, and one of the only, moments in the ufc/wec that i thought were rigged, and still do. The kick did nothing to Bendo and he fell because of how he was moving backwards, and i also had Hemdo winning the fight, but knew they would give it to pettis after that kick and he was the one the ufc wanted to push

@Patty_C

2 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabizwacks6711 idk I've never been kicked in the face off the cage and neither have you, so all we have is a dope highlight

One L in "Mandela"

I think the GSP v Hendricks fight is glossed over because shortly after they outlawed TRT and Hendricks deflated like a balloon, lost his next few and got cut.

@LTProductions335

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously! That guy was on PEDS for sure.

@madgavin7568

2 жыл бұрын

The fact he won the belt in his next fight then had a fall from grace afterwards can attribute to that. If Hendricks never won the belt I think it would be talked about a lot more.

@Hempujonsito

2 жыл бұрын

Hendricks was on diuretics and IVs, not TRT

@LTProductions335

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hempujonsito how do you know this?

@berekexer8158

2 жыл бұрын

@@LTProductions335 Because that's what he admitted to and there are no trt positives.

I feel like I’m not good enough at recalling mma facts to be able to experience this sensation

@Dukeflyhawker

2 жыл бұрын

It's not you. These aren't Mandela Effects at all

This dude is the unwanted friend who needs to tell people they're wrong about everything.

@eLGiGaming

2 жыл бұрын

imagine getting offended by this video

Thankfully we live in an era where you can look these things up and verify fairly quickly what really happened.

@Greg042869

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure you understand the concept.

@fairplayjay

2 жыл бұрын

@@Greg042869 mandela effect is a simple concept. However these cases don’t seem as bad as say the Bearnstein bears or something like that, since mma is so new and pretty well documented.

@Greg042869

2 жыл бұрын

@@fairplayjay The idea is that history is changed, so you can not "look these things up and verify" because the proof is gone. Only the memory remains. Ask anyone over 50 if they remember the first Shazam movie starring Sinbad.

@kedabro1957

2 жыл бұрын

God I hate the pre-smartphone age, just for the freedom people had to Just. Make. Shit. Up.

@Greg042869

2 жыл бұрын

@@kedabro1957 I'm not sure you understand the concept either. Even if you had a whole set of encyclopedia Britanica under your arm, they would all be CHANGED from what you remember, so it doesn't matter how you try to verify what used to be.

Diego Sanchez vs Clay Guida is definitely one of the best fights ever. If you haven't seen it, look it up, you're in for a treat. There's some awesome fights in Pride FC, and even some of the old John Lewis fights were pretty sick in the early days of MMA. I'd say he is one of the most underrated fighters in the history of MMA.

@namwarmaster6918

2 жыл бұрын

3-4-3 john lewis is the most underrated fighter in mma history?

@joeyjones9041

2 жыл бұрын

@@namwarmaster6918 what's BJ Penn's record again? How about Randy Couture? If that's all you know about him then you shouldn't be commenting. How about watching his fights instead of a Google search smh casual troll, he was a complete fighter, killer stand up, slick bjj, and solid wrestling with a high fight IQ. Did a lot for early mma in America.

@namwarmaster6918

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeyjones9041 alright the two names you brought up had winning records and were champs. so right off the bat, bad comparisons. just because john is a personal favorite of yours, and not a lot of people know of him, doesn’t mean he’s underrated.

THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT LAWLER V MCDONALD II. It had great moments, but I’m so tired of people calling it an insane FOTY, let alone decade.

@madgavin7568

2 жыл бұрын

I still regard Hendo vs Shogun 1 as a better fight than it. Hell there's actually better fights than it in more recent years, like Whittaker vs Romero 2.

@re_i_gn

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I remember when someone told me to check the fight out because it was "100x better" than Izzy vs Gastelum, which I said was my favorite fight of all time. I checked it out on KZread and after the 1st round I was like... "huh??"

@kevo6463

2 жыл бұрын

I thought I was the only one who didn’t view it as the greatest fight ever. it’s great but I can name 10 fights that are even better

@thefootballpunnedit

2 жыл бұрын

Robbie Condit gets slept on

@kennypowers6485

2 жыл бұрын

It was definitely an insane FOTY you don’t remember the feeling live obviously. Sometimes fights have slow build ups but it was clear they both had figured each other out by that legendary fourth round

This is a good list for new and casual fans. IMO there is a PRE/POST 2020 ERA when it comes to fans. Good video.

@eetfuk3571

2 жыл бұрын

tbf. them casual fans keeps the sports alive. they pay a lot for a prize fighter more than us avid fans who constantly watch fights.

@ricksilva4386

2 жыл бұрын

@@eetfuk3571 I agree with your point. All I was trying to say is the newer fans sometimes learn the sport through the media or rumors so the video is a great way to explain the facts behind some common misconceptions. I love all UFC fans. I liked the sport for 10 years before I had another friend who liked it also. MMA has athletes that truly inspire me.

@robertnewell4054

2 жыл бұрын

I started watching UFC when I was 30 ….. aaaandd now I’m 58. Time flies when developing CTE

@ricksilva4386

2 жыл бұрын

Robert Newell I grew up in a baseball family but after the strike and collapse of the card market I lost interest. I was really happy when this sport started to form and strategy was just as important as strength. I’m only a UFC fan now!

@DarranKern

2 жыл бұрын

No this is yet another bad list with inaccurate entries. Holy cow the mario Yamasaki excuses were SHAMEFUL.

GSP beat Hendricks. I even thought that in the moment. Ppl were caught up in the damage on GSPs face. Very close fight, but i feel gsp did what he needed to do to win within the rules of mma, especially in those days when just Takedowns counted for more, before it turned into the "just stand and bang and put on a show" era we are in today

@user-nv2wt4hi8t

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely right. All credit to Hendricks for taking head-kicks and actually being able to roll his eyes when any other man aside from the 1% would be knocked out but there's no denying that, while this isn't point scoring, you head-kick someone and that looks good on your part in terms of your contribution to the fight. The issue is, Hendricks put on a fantastically convincing performance where whenever he got hit, he'd intentionally make this 'I'm bored' look, as much to say although that was a clean hit, it did nothing, which only made the issue of GSP's notorious Nate Diaz equivalent cuttable skin tissue even more convincing as a sign he'd lost despite them really just getting clean hits on each other, regardless of blood or a bored look. When Dana said 'he wobbled him, he hurt him, he dropped him' that was the biggest load of shit ever. Neither looked hurt, wobbled, dropped and to say that with a straight face just because GSP was cut up, showed Dana's measure.

@randallflagg3700

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, GSP almost always ends up bruised up in fights, unless it's complete domination like Serra 2, both Koscheck fights, Penn 2... "Look at his face!" is a really bad indicator of who won, and it only used by salty losers who got ougrappled/outwrestled. (if you only want to stand and bang, go to BKFC). .

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-nv2wt4hi8t yea and dana had beef with gsp at the time for calling for better drug testing among other things, and ironically Hendricks being one of the most obvious guys thaf werent caught in hindsight, that dude prolly had all the juice in his system in that fight, couldnt even feel GSPs strikes lmao.

@Adaephonable

2 жыл бұрын

What is a "Ppl"? Why would you capitalize 'Takedowns'?

Thanks god mma on point posted, Chael hasn’t told me how to feel about last nights fights so I’m kinda lost

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

lol

Did anyone else think Demetrius Johnson was the flyweight and bantamweight champion at the same time at one point or am I just mental

@interia2812

2 жыл бұрын

just you

@rl2769

2 жыл бұрын

I never thought that or heard of anyone else thinking it until you came along

@Bucephalus84

2 жыл бұрын

He fought for it. Cruz beat him.

I thought it would be "top 10 upseats in mma history "

@cosmiccomedy7394

2 жыл бұрын

Dude that Nunes vs Pena fight was exhilarating. Doesn't get more exciting then that.

Oh Tommy, trying to pull a fast one on us with GSP v Hendricks. How are you going to ignore that GSP landed more sig strikes in round 1 and had a good submission attempt? That's what won Georges the round, and in the end the fight. The only counterargument people have is "damage" which is not a scoring metric

@samcaraballo6218

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that statement why mofuckers ignore the stats the numbers don't lie GSP outlanded with his jan and significant strikes in general at higher percentage Jesus enuff already with this shit

@dustingaethje1332

2 жыл бұрын

Damage is absolutely one of the most important factors of a fight, at least tody. Effective striking trumps effective grappling as well as everything else and the rules for effective striking clearly state that immediate impact is scored over cumulative impact. Therefore, under the new rules, heaviest shots that land are scored over basically everything else. Now I'm not saying those were the rules at the time, just that it's how the fights are scored right now. Go look up Angela Hill's last fight. She was controlling the pace, landing and ducking shots, had a lot of control against the fence, controlled the octagon, had more overall agression and even got a takedown. How was it scored? A win for Lemos.

@Dukeflyhawker

2 жыл бұрын

@@dustingaethje1332 show me where you read these official judging rules and if possible when they were changed from effective striking, grappling, aggression, octagon control to what you've described

@madgavin7568

2 жыл бұрын

Damage is a scoring metric, it trumps everything. Johnny Hendricks landed the hardest, most damaging shots of the round. Significant strike numbers don't tell the full story, if that were the case then Joanna would have beaten Rose in their rematch (UFC stats show Joanna outlanded Rose in every round but Rose did more damage so she deservedly won). The guillotine GSP had in on Hendricks wasn't tight at all as he popped out shortly afterwards, meaning it was ultimately insignificant. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z56Jm5eBeNmqmbA.html

@Dukeflyhawker

2 жыл бұрын

@@madgavin7568 watched the video and the full first round (again) and I was correct. the word "Damage" appears nowhere in the rule book. Your interpretation as well as that video are plain wrong. 1. The sub attempt was significant. Hendricks hand even begins to flutter like he was tapping in anticipation of the pressure wasn't released, but it was released. This is very much a sig sub attempt. Especially coming off a take-down and the most meaningful action right out of the gate. 2. The rules talk about 'heavier strikes counting more than total strikes if they impact the fight'. Did Hendricks have heavier strikes? Yes. Did they impact Georges in any meaningful way? No. If they did, Hendricks would have kept landing. Instead, Georges fought through everything with no hesitation and Hendricks started getting tired and slowing down as the round ended (watch the way he breathes and has trouble carrying his head straight), allowing Georges to continue out scoring him. And that's it. Georges won by the rules. The 3 refs were among the most experienced in mma history. They understand judging criteria a lot better than journalists and fans who insist 'damage' = scoring, when that's not what the rules say

you forgot when Alistair Overeem clearly felt a tap

@AxaFin

2 жыл бұрын

Overeem running away, quickly turning around and dropping Stipe with a straight is still the funniest shit I've ever seen.

I still can't believe that showtime kick. Haven't seen anything else even come close to how dope that was

@elizabethgeorge168

2 жыл бұрын

That's the point of the list, though. It wasn't great. It barely landed, it wasn't a KO, and there was a solid minute left...BUT it was unique, athletic, and never before seen.

loved the vid!!!! thank you so much

Rewatching Gustafsson vs Jones I though Jon won, however you were being stupidly dismissive of his performance for no reason other than to try and prove a shaky point. Gus fought fantastically and gave Jon possibly his greatest challenge yet.

@ginsnookiesnakamura551

2 жыл бұрын

I think stupidly dismissive is strong. I think he has just put emphasis on how much the moment skewed people’s perspective of how close the fight was overall. Gus did an outstanding job but the fight in isolation from the time it happened looks pretty clear cut for Jones

@AnnaKuznetzova88

2 жыл бұрын

Jones wins 4-1 and hurts Gustafson badly has him in big trouble, for years so much idiots tries to tell me jones loses cuz bad announcer

@andreseraso2737

2 жыл бұрын

Shaky point? He literally shows you the statistics

@Bulsebub

2 жыл бұрын

It's funny how he said nothing happened in Lawler vs Mcdonald in round 3 until the end when the 4th round was all Alex until the elbow which did not even knock him down.

@derpyman4497

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bulsebub Alex won the 4th round of that fight and you can’t convince me otherwise, he won like 85% of the round and while that spinning elbow and the follow up from Jones were great they don’t make up for the round that came before.

Hendricks was on juice, that's why it has been considered a solid victory for GSP

@Bucephalus84

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone is on steroids. Get out from under the rock.

The creativity of this channel is undeniable

This video is real a eye opener and very important for MMA Fans.

Mario ''Till death comes to collect'' Yamasaki

Everyone ignores that Holly won that fight because she was the first fighter to actively and effectively block Ronda's hips. It stopped nearly every throw attempt and Ronda didn't have the ability to change her mindset to shoot a double and not rely on Harai Goshi and O Uchi Gari

10 things that 2021 has taught us about MMA is the video to make.

Something I didn't know I need. Thanks Boyz

What the fuck are you talking about with the Gus fight? I’ve rewatched it multiple times, there’s no Mandela effect… Gus won imo and if you actually watch it without trying desperately to get another ‘misremembered moment’ for this video, there’s no way you can say it was anything close to a dominant victory for Jones as you seem to make out here…

@ahnafalam3430

2 жыл бұрын

i agree, this video is trying to hard to push out content. The yamasaki entry, lawler vs macdonald entry. Feels like they are desperate to make good videos again. What a shit video to watch.

@christerpettersson5750

2 жыл бұрын

@@ahnafalam3430 agreed!! a lot of these are REALLY forced.

if your are going to try and convince me that jon Jones beat gus in the 1st fight(just watched that fight the other day and man jones struggled heavily until the 4th and even then gus was right there with him in the exchanges landing more shots and more damage) then you need to accept that gsp beat hendricks

@ginsnookiesnakamura551

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. Those fights didn’t play out quite the same. They both share the fact that the occasion and such an underdog putting the champ in trouble had us put emphasis on the highlights of the underdog but that doesn’t mean the underdog deserved to lose both fights.

@Xjebin

2 жыл бұрын

Those are way different. Jones beats Gus 4-1, gsp loses 3-2.

@Togairu

2 жыл бұрын

I dont have an issue with seeing the outcomes differently, but I do have an issue with using "fight stats" to justify one and then discrediting the stats in the other. I hate comparing "strikes landed" anyway because it doesnt take into account the difference in effects.

The Diego fight is for sure greatest in UFC. Right on for showin that pic, respect

Thank you for this video topic. I scream at my screen quite often at people misremembering stuff.

TOMMY, we miss the TTHS! Not a knock on MMA On Point. We love this content as well. But goddammit we need an episode of the TTHS every now and then!

Also in the GSP Hendricks fight, Hendricks actually taps it never should've gotten to decision. Watch the fight again close when he's in that guillotine, he taps!!!

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

i saw it too

@ronniedarling7972

2 жыл бұрын

I saw it years ago when the fight happened I was screaming at the TV. And ever since I've heard so many people saying robbery and he won. Watch it again closer folks. Decision never should've happened at all. GSP got robbed of a submission finish is what happened. And I'm not even a huge GSP fan. I think Kamaru beats every Welterweight in history but that's a different story

This was actually a great video

This is your best video by far. And that's how I'll remember it..

I’ve watched Lawler v MacDonald II many times over the years. And as recently as about six months ago. It is absolutely one of the best fights ever. You’re WAY off in saying it’s not as great as people remember. It 100% IS

@alugificator

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect people might be equating the quality of the fight with the amount of blood. While that fight got ridiculously bloody towards the end, it doesn't mean the first two rounds were bad just because they weren't bleeding yet. They were just a bit more patient and tactical. It was a fantastic fight, but then so was Lawler's fight with Condit, and neither of them were bleeding by the end of it. Tommy "JUST BLEED" Toehold That's my theory anyway.

@DizzyDez613

2 жыл бұрын

@@alugificator I think you’re onto something. Keep digging. The truth is near… watch your six.

@samme79

2 жыл бұрын

Nahhhh. Robbie vs Condit was better

@alugificator

2 жыл бұрын

@@DizzyDez613 All I'm saying is look into it, brother.

@braddorcas9363

2 жыл бұрын

@@samme79 Felt bad for Condit on that one. Belt should have been his.

Mine #1 is definitely remembering Conor being respected at some point

THANK YOU Lawler vs Macdonald 2 wasn't as good as people remember. A lot more action packed fights out there

In case you didn't know Max Randall is all for man on man action. Thanks Max !

The only one I apparently remembered wrong was the first Gus vs Jones fight. I really thought Gus won.

@Diesel257

2 жыл бұрын

You didn't remember it wrong. Half this list is full of it.

@bluezdr

2 жыл бұрын

I've watched it a half dozen times and I still think Alex won. 🤷‍♂️

@dylanthetyrantking1001

2 жыл бұрын

@@bluezdr exactly, I've watched the fight multiple times and you could score it either way it was very competitive

@Journeyman2585

2 жыл бұрын

@@Diesel257 how is half the list full of it? Only a couple were about fights being remembered wrong, the rest were easily provable facts.

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

at the time, i wanted gus to win so bad and the fight was fkn amazing. That said, i am also a realist and mma hardcore, and Jon fairly won the fight. If you cant look at it objectively, then you cant have an opinion that holds weight. Most ppl that still say Gus won now, are just ppl that wanted him to win so bad like me, but have just stuck with that mindset still. Like Jones always does, he found a way to win. He dug deep and finished the fight strong, and probably was on his way to finishing Gus when the fight ended, and was coming on strong. Same with the Reyes fight, even if Reyes won 1st 3 rounds technically on points, you cant just coast at the end of a fight against Jon Jones. He WILL take over

Don’t think Round 1 of GSP vs Hendricks was that clear at all. Sig. Strikes were nearly the same (19 for GSP vs 18 for Hendrick), 1 take down each and neither guy got hurt badly. I’m not saying Hendricks didn’t win but it wasn’t a complete robbery either

@jessepaiz6356

2 жыл бұрын

Their was a difference in the damage of those strikes

I always thought the best fight in ufc history was Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar

I appreciate the shoutout to Sanchez vs. Guida as one of the best of all time. That fight was non-stop.

what you missed about the first round of gsp vs hendricks is that hendricks clearly tapped

@madgavin7568

2 жыл бұрын

It was not a tap. It was a change of position of the hand. GSP fanboys at it again... 😒

@i-am-mercurial

2 жыл бұрын

Brazilian tap

Glad to see the entry about lawler vs mcdonald. Great fight but ridiculously overrated with it not getting going until middle of round 3

@madgavin7568

2 жыл бұрын

Robbie Lawler vs Carlos Condit was a better fight IMO. A much hyped bout that lived up to expectations, shame about the judges decision for ruining the moment though.

The showtime kick was the only one I remembered 100% accurately 😂

What a cool video. Thanks guys

The Dan Hardy firing was still based on the Herb Dean incident. The ufc staffer he verbally assaulted was Herb Dean's wife.

@tylernihiser776

2 жыл бұрын

Really?

Im so glad they mentioned the lawler vs rory fight. Whenever people talk about that fight i always remember how slow that fight started. Same thing with Lawler vs Condit. I remember I didn't watch that fight live because I was working an overnight shift. I kept hearing the fight was insane and I had it recorded. I was so pumped to watch it the next day, Condit was one of my favorite fighters. Then I watched the fight and it's pretty lackluster, I was like wtf are ppl talking about. Then late in the fight Condit almost made a comeback and there were some wild exchanges at the end. That's all people really remembered about the fight

Now THIS is a unique topic

My sister still talks about Rhondas 20 fight UFC win streak.

@LowenKoniig

2 жыл бұрын

What?? Lol I’m confused

You better not put Chaels undefeated record on this list.

@Mrtamps

2 жыл бұрын

but hes always been undefeated

@markzuckergecko621

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mrtamps yea but some casuals try to contest that, and point out nonsense revisionist history about him losing.

About Yamasaki, he's one of the few refs with actual experience in martial arts, being 4th degreee BJJ and Judo Black Belt

Lawler vs McDonald 2 WAS one of the best fucking fights...ever. I re-watch it often for sure.

I remember all of these clearly. It’s more new fans hearing one thing or seeing one thing and just running with it. Expected to see Conor’s “60 gs baby” on here being as it’s one of the most misquoted quotes in UFC history.

@Rocko1990

2 жыл бұрын

What, because most people say "50 G's baby"

My Mandela effect is thinking Frankie Edgar was the featherweight champion at one point

The anticipation when clicking on a new mma on point vid and waiting to see if our boy Tommy toe hold is doin the narration is always intense but always worth the wait when u hear his voice

@najeemustafaa7630

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly hate when the British guys narrate the videos lol

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

@@najeemustafaa7630 me too. what do those fkn clowns know about mma

I remember the showtime kick as not being the end of the fight. The way he started out explaining number 1 I thought I remembered it wrong

Still the greatest fight of all time on one of the best cards of all time. The mcgregor mendes walkouts alone made that night

Who else remembered most of these right except for the Mario Yamasaki bit lolXD?

I think alot of the Holm Rousey fight was that Holm had learned that, if you stop the takedown, Rousey becomes a chump. And that's exactly what happened.

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

yea rousey was always a one trick pony with Askren level striking

love the vids

Gsp didn’t definitely beat hendricks or definitely lose to him. Very close fight

@drewsmith3673

2 жыл бұрын

The Weasel does a great breakdown. He gives it to Big Rig, but it was definitely close.

@LTProductions335

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I thought rounds 1 and 2 were both super close. Like everybody looks at Gsp's face and gives it to hendricks but it's more than just that.

@SeiryuuX

2 жыл бұрын

I remember a YT video a fan made after the fight stating that you can't just look at GSP's face and say that he immediately lost. The creator cited that GSP has so much scar tissue in his face that even a light jab can bust it up and that even in his dominant wins, his face looks like it went through a war.

@LTProductions335

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeiryuuX the jake shield fight was a good example of that. Shields didnt land anything but Jan's and eyepokes and GSP looked worse than most fighters after wars. Even the second koscheck fight he looked a little beat up and he beat the heck out of Kos

Longtime MMA fighters that have flown under the radar: Elkins, Lentz, Healy, Herman, swick.

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

Swick had some shine for a bit back in the day.

Thanks for that bit about Alexander versus John because I never understood how people could claim a robbery

There was only during a small part of their second fight where McDonald seem to be about to win (in the standup position). Acknowledging his lack of punching power: when he wins is because he would apply his complete MMA skills or when he was in a Walk in the park fight facing a softball or washed out fighter.

Will someone explain to me how people remember Hendrix upsetting GSP and even dana ranted about how he should get a rematch. But in reality Hendrix won 3 out 5 rounds so we were all wrong? Is the Mandela effect here everyone remembers rules as who wins the most rounds is the winner but in reality it's the person who wins the least amount of rounds and does less damage?

@bigdaddyd6700

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously I watched that part of the video a couple times and I dont think this guy understand what the Mandela effect is. Or even the term "contrary to popular belief" lol

@hartey33

2 жыл бұрын

I'm literally in the comments to see if I'm the only one. I was expecting him to say he thought GSP won, that's the only way it would be Mandela affect, cause we all remember (correctly) that Jonny won that fight. That one makes zero sense. Definitely some list packing going on here.

@Strawbclock0

2 жыл бұрын

The claim the video is making is that we've all come around on that fight and can accept that GSP won the fight squarely. Our initial reaction was emotional and unreasonable and Hendrix didn't actually come that close to winning. That's what he's saying popular opinion is. Whether or not that's true, well I guess it depends on who you ask.

@bigdaddyd6700

2 жыл бұрын

That's not what he said though mashu

@Strawbclock0

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigdaddyd6700 Pretty sure that's what he said. Maybe he was unclear but I found it easy to follow.

the ronda housey discourse always confused me, if you watch the fight you see her clearly trying to lead with a punch and pull holly into a clinch, a technique she was doing since the beginning of her MMA career, Holly just managed to avoid the grapple game

@LTProductions335

2 жыл бұрын

I remember when tate got holly down in there fight, idiots were on twitter saying "why didnt Ronda just do that". And it's like Ronda did and holly defended it lol

@Togairu

2 жыл бұрын

the question was whether or not Ronda had been training Judo as much as she had previously, or had she started to focus heavily on striking, which is likely.

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

@@Togairu her coach made her believe she could strike, when in reality she had Askren or worse level striking. He even said "rhonda can win in striking now with one hand behind her back"

hell yea this is a great list!

This opens up another top 10 list. The greatest moves that didn't finish fights.

@Dukeflyhawker

2 жыл бұрын

Adesanye's feints on Jan

Thank you for the Rousey/Holly part!! I've been saying it since literally after the fight that Ronda TRIED and FAILED to grapple, but so many morons kept and keep saying she was solely trying to outbox Holly. Holly managed the distance well and controlled/dominated that fight with a superior gameplan and MMA skills.

@nunyabizwacks6711

2 жыл бұрын

and was the first time rhonda ran in to a girl that was just as strong if not stronger than her. Holly outmuscled her and basically beat her in every aspect

#1 is the only one the only true Mandela effect in this list.

The showtime kick was even included once in a “Best finishes” video of Pettis on the official UFC KZread😂

@belalajjaj5718

2 жыл бұрын

That shit bothers the hell out of me. Especially when I try to tell my friends it wasn’t a knockout but a knockdown.( the best knockdown in history but that’s it).

"Greatest single shot that *didn't* end a fight." Is that already a list?! I know there's some similar ones like greatest comebacks or near finishes, but that actually sounds like a dope title & list 😯

Someone to this day thinks Chael lost a round to Anderson Silva

@SkinnKilla

2 жыл бұрын

He did, though. He tapped, so he lost the round but won the fight.