Great video! Thanks for sharing. I have the previous Grail, with the double handlebar, the CFSL eTap 7 and I am very happy with it, have not regretted it not a single moment. The new Grail has a lot of improvements, but it depends (to my humble opinion) on what perspective someone looks over on a bike comparison.

I just bought a Bianchi Zolder Pro I saw in sale and I cannot wait to ride it! It will be my do-it-all kinda of bike. I think we should promote these kind of bikes that can do it all and are a bit more flexible. Some Gravel bikes at the end of the day end up being pure gravel bikes (1x chainring, too slack geometry) and cannot be fast enough on the road for example. Of course it depends on what the consumer wants, but with today prices I think It's more reasonable to start looking a cyclocross bikes or fast gravel bikes with double chainring to cover most surfaces.

For the Steel Lovers: Fairlight Secan Ritchey Swiss Cross/Outback Surly Midnight Special Brother Mehteh Genisis Croix de Fer/Fugio Kona Rove Jamis Renegade Bombtrack Audax/Hook Cinelli Nemo Tig Gravel Pelago Stavanger (feel free to add to the List)

The blemish on the MOG was actually one on SHIMANO GRX really. I’m running a SRAM AXS mullet on mine and it’s just fantastic. I’m running 48s and it’s very comfy. Far better than the Open UP and the 3T thankfully. Can’t see any need for anything else but I’d love to try a few on your list, you lucky man.

Love your videos, and I am a subscriber that always looks forward to your takes. I am a little shocked and disappointed though that you didn't include the Lauf Siegla. I own a Canyon Grail, so it isn't owner bias, but any discussion of the best gravel bikes without that one is an eyebrow raise my friend, especially considering Matt Page is ripping one around Wales right next to you. ;-)

@davidarthur

23 күн бұрын

I haven’t had the chance to ride one yet despite asking for the opportunity so that’s the main reason for not including one

@jasonf2252

23 күн бұрын

@@davidarthur Understood. That is a legit reason vs not riding it and giving a estimated review. The folks at Lauf should get you one to test! Keep up the great work.

Worth mentioning: the frame storage only comes with the top range models. "Regular" SL doesn't have it.

This is a great resource for someone looking for a gravel bike, since it's almost impossible to try any out before purchase. Thank you! Was curious if you have any experience with the Factor Ostro Gravel?

@davidarthur

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Not ridden that bike yet

Fantastic work - these reviews are very helpful to potential buyers.

@davidarthur

Ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

Was just looking at the Canyon Grizl, but this Grail is somehow speaking to me 😍 Unfortunately, the "base" model for €2,499 doesn't come with the internal storage or the new accessories mount... As far as I can see only the SLX models have it, starting from €3,999 reduced from 4,999... which is a killer price for 2x Di2 but somewhat over my budget 😔

Awesome machine bro.....

@oneschance

Ай бұрын

Which one? 😂

Can I get your advice? I’m about to buy… what would you choose: Online Canyon Grail CF SL7 or BMC URS ONE from local store? (I do 80% gravel, 20% road)

The only bike you should buy in this lineup is the MOG since you can dress it up with 42mm RH tires for racing or down for single track with 48mm Oracle Ridge fires for rough off road conditions. It’s the only complete bike in this review that can handle anything you throw at it.

Unfortunately, Canyon have very poor quality control in recent years, especially for bikes imported to the USA. Also, in the USA we have less accessories, bike colors and specifications . I own two Canyons at this moment

@philipmassey5951

26 күн бұрын

Agreed, I bought a Endurace CF a couple of years ago, terrible build and paint quality. Both disc rotors were very warped and the handlebars came scratched. All Canyon offered me was a £50 voucher. A single new rotor is £40 Would never purchase another again

Hi David, genuinely appreciate your reviews. Due to my own indecisiveness I’m still dithering what to buy. I ran with one of your own recommendations 6 months ago a Fairlight Strael for the road and have to say I love it and now in the fortunate position to be able to treat myself to another bike. I live in the New Forest and want to buy a bike to say do a 50 50 split of road and gravel. My budget is 6k and my heart says the Canyon Grail but I’m struggling to commit just in case I’m missing a chance to buy something that is even more suited and fun….Help! 😂

@davidarthur

29 күн бұрын

The Grail is a top choice, I used it as a road bike and it was great. The Cervelo Aspero is another good option that works well as a road bike too might be worth checking out

@claytonjones5857

29 күн бұрын

@@davidarthur brilliant thank you David.

The Cervelo Aspero is tempting as an all road bike

@davidarthur

Ай бұрын

I tried it with slicks and it rode pretty nicely, there’s a video about that on the channel

I'm surprised you've not reviewed the Boardman ADV 9.4 after your positive review of the SLR 9.4 Disc Carbon. Great spec, only costing £2,650 and you can get get an 8% discount if you're a member of the British cycling club. A lot better value than the bikes you've reviewed here in my humble opinion.

As a Gravel racer I am surprised that the Grevil wasn't in there somewhere. However, a lot of very useful and very detailed information that would be hard to find from anyone else on KZread. Still number one for bike reviews 😊

@LifeCycle1978

Ай бұрын

Just compare the weight of that bike to others and you won’t be surprised anymore.

@WoolyChewbakker

Ай бұрын

​@LifeCycle1978 HA ha, my weight far "out weighs" any slight difference in the weight of the bikes 😊 We aren't talking about elite road racers 😂 These are Gravel bikes where they even store tools inside the frame of the bikes, add mudguards, put on storage bags. I could go on ... At 8.5kg its lighter than some of those on test here.

@Berserker26

29 күн бұрын

Not many of us want to sell our house to afford one tho

@WoolyChewbakker

29 күн бұрын

@@Berserker26. With GRX di2 they are selling at £3,999 and with EKAR for £2,999 new from Pinarello suppliers.

6:02 I want the down tube storage option to be on the CF SL range.

Hi David 😀. Could it be possible for you to test the new BH GravelX R? There are NO English tests available 😉

Origine Graxx III, da best

Can you add a link please to those mudguards from 2:51? They are looking ridiculously awesome! I love the matte black on them

@jakervamduf1523

Ай бұрын

These are from canyon specifically or the grail and grizl.

@florinb4668

Ай бұрын

At £7400 it should come with cooler mudguard ever.Prices of some bike are more than a Tesla😂.

@nickbu

Ай бұрын

They are first party mudguards from Canyon. You can check out his full video covering the Grail where he fitted the mudguards and showed off the quick release system.

@florinb4668

Ай бұрын

Canyon DEFEND Fast Fenders £95,95.I put a comment with link to them but it got removed.

I'm in the market for a gravel bike that's also a capable commuter and long range adventure bike for all weathers, which unfortunately rules out a lot of carbon frames with their lack of mounting points aft and propensity for Pressfit BBs. I've narrowed the choice down to the Fairlight Secan, Dolan GXT Ti, Brother Mehteh and Mason Bokeh.

@benjaminmirt5029

18 күн бұрын

My main is a Fairlight Faran. It does not get much better than Fairlight. Get a Secan. My next bike will be a Strael bc i want to join Road Group Rides. Nice alternatives you could look at are the Ritchey Swiss Cross or Outback. Brother Mehteh, Surly Midnight Special, Genisis Croix de Fer even a Pimped up Kona Rove Frame are all good Steel or Steel/Carbon hybrid options. Im building up a Surly Disc Trucker and a Salsa Marrakesh for Friends. The Marrakesh would be a super strong contender if it came with Through Axle from the getgo and wouldnt need retrofitting because for its weight limit the frame is rather light for a Steel hauler. Ride on Fam.

@benjaminmirt5029

18 күн бұрын

Im building up a Surly Disc Trucker and a Salsa Marrakesh for Friends. The Marrakesh would be a super strong contender if it came with Through Axle from the getgo and wouldnt need retrofitting.

I have Revolt Advanced Pro 1 that I mostly use for racing (ultra endurance ~300 miles). I am really surprised how much job does DFuse on seatpost. However there are a few issues: 1) no bottom frame protection - easily fixable and fixed by Giant in 2024 models l 2) very weak paint on frame. After 20h of riding with framebag attached with rubber stripes there are spots where painting is completely gone. It's something that does not happen on a way cheaper bikes. 3) Problematic spare parts supply (at least in EU). With Canyon you go to web page and see all spare parts associated with your bike that you can order with one click. In the case of Giant you can't even determine part numbers. If you want spare derailleur hanger first you need to call Giant to determine part number and order it. The shipping time is weeks. You want different stem ? Available in a few months. I expected way better access to parts and quality from Giant.

"That don't have Canyon on the down tube". I'd like to know more about that.

we all know its the best riders maybe winnest one that make that bike sell!!

Pronghorn. Danish dynamite bikes❤

My best gravel bike is "GIANT REVOLT".

@igadokenpancit7410

Ай бұрын

Best seat post evermade.😂

What no fairlights?

@benjaminmirt5029

18 күн бұрын

No Steel is what this List is.

Why not the Grizl?

@davidarthur

Ай бұрын

Awesome bike only felt I could include one canyon though

Is it really 2 hours 13min-im not complaining though lol

@davidarthur

Ай бұрын

Trying something new 😃 there are chapter links to skip ahead 👍

@josephmartin8478

Ай бұрын

​@@davidarthur speaking of chapters - looks like you need to add :00 to the timestamps after the first hour.

9.1 watts ..... It's all a marginal gain I know but that is so little to put it into perspective I viewed a channel a few days ago , Lionel Sanders , where they wind tunnel tested shaving arms and legs that was a 13 watt gain , they also tried several different brands of calf covers , this guy rides for Canyon . Basically having hairy legs will chew up that aero gain and some ..... Shave up and buy this bike and save 22.1 watts

How many of these firms are sponsors?

@davidarthur

Ай бұрын

None

@rainbowchamelion1051

29 күн бұрын

@@davidarthur Thanks for taking the time to answer.

The most Canyon bikes are ukly to see, I find them nothing, the quality are mostly very poor.