2:48 What're you talking about??? The GT3 DOES have a big wing package, it's called the GT3RS and it costs $44k more! 🤑

Dear Carlos! Glad that you're back reviewing cars like you do best. Here's my suggestion though: DONT OVER-SCRIPT THE REVIEWS LIKE MOTORTREND! They have literally ruined the reviews so much lately, they're becoming stage plays. Just speak whats in your head because it a lot more connected to the experience. Let the exchange between you and the co-reviewer be as natural as can be even if you interrupt each other! All the best! =)

@2010challengerRT

5 жыл бұрын

Could not agree more

@weed46

5 жыл бұрын

Well said, you got it spot on!

@NANAbingbangboom

5 жыл бұрын

Shut up Meg!

@trilingualkid

5 жыл бұрын

and dont make people pay for subscription, thats one way to piss people off.

@berzerkrobot

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I un-subbed MT about 1.5 years ago and I havent missed them at all

Crazy .. the ZR1 hits performance numbers that were only available to million+ dollar supercars just a few years ago... I'd have either if I could and would be absolutely chuffed.

@bob-ig6lq

5 жыл бұрын

Funny

@saint198

5 жыл бұрын

@@jeajinshin6126 its bacause the vette is a race car

@stoneeh

5 жыл бұрын

In case of the ZR1, you'd be absolutely *crashed*

@vernonprice5986

5 жыл бұрын

@@jeajinshin6126 "For some reason it has the same quarter mile with a 500 horsepower." But the ZR1's trap speed was significantly higher. Not on.y that 127 mph is literally the slowest trap speed I've ever seen for the C7 ZR1. Regular owners are going to drag strips and hitting 135-136 mph traps in them. If you did a 60 mph highway pull with these two cars the ZR1 would immediately start walking away.

@devinb3397

5 жыл бұрын

Mr Anonymous 127mph trap speed from 755hp is pretty embarrassing..

Carlos left the sinking ship Motortrend.

@battycowboy

5 жыл бұрын

Doofy according to him he was fired because he was opinions was not to their liking

@RALPHLAURENISTHEBEST

5 жыл бұрын

Motor trend is after money and want you to pay for all of there content

@ChuckBeefOG

5 жыл бұрын

RALPHLAURENISTHEBEST Dont they put all their content on youtube? Or is that not a thing anymore

@RALPHLAURENISTHEBEST

5 жыл бұрын

Chuck Beef not anymore only certain things they want you to pay for the on demand service

@YPO6

5 жыл бұрын

Why is it sinking?

The ZR1 is an untamed monster. The GT3 is an eloquent machine. I'm taking the untamed monster.

@User-th6yy

5 жыл бұрын

Untamed as in "needs 200 hp more to do same times on tracks" lmao

@Spotie

5 жыл бұрын

Untamed as in "pansies like User 1888 couldn't get the thing into third gear."

@ZephyrCorsa

5 жыл бұрын

The ZR1 with the aero and performance options a 7:12 matching the base GT3 at the Nurburgring, meanwhile the GT3 RS runs sub 7 mintues. Why are traditional American cars always slower on track?

@Spotie

5 жыл бұрын

@@ZephyrCorsa You fail.

@ZephyrCorsa

5 жыл бұрын

@@Spotie What are you talking about? American cars for the most part are slower and worse performing than their European rivals. Numbers dont lie

The ZR1 is a better car than the average driver. This will give the driver a challenge to become a better driver over time. This will be the last front engine ZR1 and will be a collectors car in the future.

@gtperfection1596

5 жыл бұрын

No the ZR1 will depreciate rapidly especially if GM offers a mid engine with a manual or auto. As far as challenging the driver no as well turn off all the traction aids and most people would wreck the car instantly.

@bobohara3974

5 жыл бұрын

If they don't kill them self first! :-)

@leonfuller6459

5 жыл бұрын

No it will be a collectors

@jagsfanrick

5 жыл бұрын

Will be a collectors car for sure.

@bob15479

5 жыл бұрын

yeah they talked about "residual value" not taking into account the upcoming change in the corrvette.

I'll give a like for not selling out and having to pay to watch like others... BTW, I'll take the ZR1.

@byates59

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, me too, I'll take the ZR1 all day long!

@alexchevez8768

5 жыл бұрын

Zr1 all day long

@macm7696

5 жыл бұрын

M2 the zr1 is perfect.nice looking.porche over priced.looks old same model. Nothing special.corvette is a super sports car.

@R34GTRR35

5 жыл бұрын

Porsche for me , ZR1 will never be as good

@alexchevez8768

5 жыл бұрын

@@R34GTRR35 the Corvette have so much more room to grow in the porches are just flat-out ugly they look the same from 1970 till today LOL only die-hard Porsche guys think that the porches look good more like the VW Bug with a six-cylinder girl engine

I grew up as a Corvette fan and still am, but I really can appreciate the Porcshe now that am older. However, everyone of these comparison videos are the same... they objectively look like they are having more fun in the corvette and quite bored in the 911

@rharlowjrable

5 жыл бұрын

I think it's almost a shock of sort more than anything else, not that corvette hasn't always produced excellent cars but this ZR1 is especially good.. but its still a plastic corvette, just with tons of seat feel thrills. Porsche is a car reviewers car they compare everything too.... GT3 is predictable not to be confused with tame but linear power on command and not that fit and finish like the plastic comment makes the car necessarily more enjoyable but build quality definitely is like they said about the transmission the car is fantastic the Corvette is more like the Dodge Demon or the Hellcat fast raw sounds great but not necessarily great and reliability at best questionable

@rharlowjrable

5 жыл бұрын

Hope no one tries to word fuck me on that comment. . I'm just responding to comment about joy of driving a ZR1 to a 911 GT3.. yes you have had a vette for 20 uears with 0 problems and I'm an idiot but a 911 at any trim is a absolute drivers car, a different feel altogether and hard to ever compare really anything to it... if you don't like or didn't understand where my comment was going then YOU are not a car guy, you are a fan boy

@UnlimitedHatred

5 жыл бұрын

JR Harlow "...word fuck me..." I'm gonna have to use this in the future lol.

@damefaso

5 жыл бұрын

What a load of crap. "...and you are left with a car that can be scary if you're not kind of a talanted driver. " - Never heard of the GT2 aka widowmaker i guess. " And with 99% of your driving in normal mode/traffic, a cluncky gearbox in your +$100k is not really fun. " - A torque converter trans is better in traffic than any DCT out there. " Previous ZR1 use to have a gearbox that was co-developed for GM trucks. " - So fucking WRONG. C4 ZR1 ZFS6-40 C6 ZR1 TREMEC TR6060 C7 ZR1 TREMEC TR6070

@rharlowjrable

5 жыл бұрын

@@UnlimitedHatred I use it all the time.

Getting paid to review cars is probably the most fun job ever, and these guys show that, by being themselves,(big car nerds) and not trying too hard that they come off being fake and not fun to watch i.e MOTOR TEND. Good video guys.

Only thing is the 911 GT3 isn't 30K more, it's more like 50-60K more with the dealer markup -_-

@ALMX5DP

5 жыл бұрын

There's no markup on the brand new ZR1? Either way MSRP is the logical method for comparison as markups vary drastically by location.

@egenesis1

5 жыл бұрын

If you can afford 125K car, another 50K is nothing for better vehicle.

@ALMX5DP

5 жыл бұрын

egenesis1 I dont think that's necessarily true.

@mitchellsteindler

5 жыл бұрын

@@egenesis1 no

@av3n..353

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah your rinky chain owned dealerships , there are plenty of online sellers as dealerships and even warehouses , c'mon don't do your buying where everyone and them want you to buy from . .

The engine sound capture in this video is some of the best I've heard, great vid overall with these amazing cars and great drivers!

YASSSSS! CARLOS LAGO In da House! As much as I love a good 'Murrican Supercharged V8 I'd rather have Grand Sport, even for track use. The Gt3 is pure unobtainium, at least I can dream about a Grand Sport some day.

@ALMX5DP

5 жыл бұрын

Imagine a Grand Sport 1LE (with some of the good bits from the ZR1 track package). That would be pretty cool.

@sleepeatdrive7619

5 жыл бұрын

Alan Bowers The truth is that the Grand Sport will depreciate far more then the GT3 ever will. A used Grand Sport will be realistically affordable to us, while the GT3 will be a dream

@dowroa

5 жыл бұрын

+ChaoticCorruptor completely agree. Hope to see you out on the road one day in one! :high_five:

@stephenlutz835

5 жыл бұрын

ChaoticCorruptor Igor mine in April. It has exceeded all my lofty expectations. Doing some track time at Spring Mountain as we speak. It is phenomenal on the track and I’m very happy😀

@MzRtS12

5 жыл бұрын

The Grand Sport is an excellent value, even better when you get it from a great dealers like Kerbeck and MacMulkin who won't markup and will actually discount new cars and even on special order cars. Check out Rick Corvette Conti here on KZread, he's a great Corvette dealer too👍

you detune a zr1 feels like other vettes. LOL .. detune the gt3 it feels like every other 911. The overseas guys are just so bias.

@kanervatie

3 жыл бұрын

That's something a Yank would say. lol

@redtesta

3 жыл бұрын

@@kanervatie Spitting facts is what im doing. Sounds like something someone from america would say LOL. Please dont tell me you're a brit or german lol. Where do i begin on that one LOL?

@damitbobby6677

3 жыл бұрын

Suprising twist... redtesta is Canadian

@redtesta

3 жыл бұрын

@@damitbobby6677 surprising twist, respond to the statement. Surprising twist dont insult me...

The Corvette has: 1. Fastest lap time, 2. Best top speed, 3. Best brakes, 4. Best skidpad number, 5. Best styling 6. Best coefficient of drag 7. Best cargo capacity, 8. Lower ownership/insurance/fuel costs, 9. Remote start, 10. Better expected reliability. But it's an American car company (and we're not into that) so the winner in this round is the GT3. Thanks for watching.

@godofnadez3587

5 жыл бұрын

Smh true it seems

@ztwntyn8

5 жыл бұрын

Yup, that shit is so old. Same with the gt350 vs zl1. Z does everything better but we like the gt because it’s loud as hell. Foreign guys go to interior when the car is slower than a vette too. Posers

@incognitofever1878

5 жыл бұрын

Better reliability. Nice joke lol . Porsche’s are really good when it comes to reliability. Typical ignorant hick

@godofnadez3587

5 жыл бұрын

Kekistanelitesniper you picked out 1/10 points he made and your stance is still ignorant. A car that costs that much more than the corvette should be a hell of a lot more reliable and no where is there evidence it has better expected reliability than a corvette. When your Porsche you can’t afford to own breaks guess how much those parts will be to replace little man.

@pleasegrowabrain

4 жыл бұрын

Since neither of the testers have to spend their own money, of course they choose the much more expensive, but not as good performing “anything but US made” alternative. The true comparably equipped price differential is more like $40K. This makes their choice of the back porch seem pretty intellectually dishonest.

Most heavy track users actually purchase the steel rotors for the GT3 as the Carbons don't last that much longer and cost an absolute shit tonne to replace

@dbullis2433

4 жыл бұрын

Kind of loose some respect for the reviews when they said you had to choose the ceramic for the track. Clearly they dont do many track event. Our shop has done a few change overs from ceramic to steel.

@StochasticWolf

Жыл бұрын

Currently the same with the ZR-1 now.

YES! I like this collaboration, please please please make more videos of Alistair and Carlos together!

When it comes to American manufacturers, I’m more of a Ford fan than Chevrolet. But you’ve got to admit, the ZR1 is just insane. It’s has numbers that are easily comparable to exotic supercars, and it’s faster than most of them around a track. I think personally it’s about time for us to start calling the corvette a supercar

4:54 - ZR1 at idle sounding better than most cars at WOT.

@e4phantom157

3 жыл бұрын

world of tanks?

@MrSupersaiyangoku

2 жыл бұрын

@@e4phantom157 wide open throttle SMH that's what WOT means

Gotta give the ZR1 some credit. Not only can it preform with some of the higher end European cars, but it's a supercar with 15 cubic feet of trunk space! If you wanted to, you could go to the store and load your groceries into it without having to cram, stuff, or stack anything. I find that pretty impressive.

I love the argument about Porsche keeping its value better. While that may be true, lets consider thats assuming you keep the kilometres super low, so basically meaning that you barely drive the car. What is the fun in having a car like that but always being concerned about the value and how much you can drive it? Lets face it, all cars depreciate and can rarely be considered a "good investment". Corvette on the other hand, typically allows you, when buying/leasing to put on 25000KM a year and still keep it under warranty. Try selling a GT3 with 70k + kilometres and tell me its holding its value. There is a reason that when you lease most super cars, you are given a much lower kilometre limit per year. I love both cars and appreciate the both, but I feel people get so caught up in "value" and not actual drivability and usability from an AMATEUR (lets face it, all of us here are not by any means professional drivers) point of view.

@trashbandit2449

4 жыл бұрын

Right on! Thank you

@gorillaboii5477

Жыл бұрын

Well said! Preach 🫡

@aaronvector4750

10 ай бұрын

Corvettes are pretty much at 300 grand now😅

@WindyCity1992

10 ай бұрын

​@@aaronvector4750 We are also comparing a status Symbol to a Corvette. Pointless. If Porsche made the C7 ZR1 People would pay 500k +

@EJleon96

6 ай бұрын

This has aged well😂

127 trap for the ZR1? Was it 130 degrees outside?

@ALMX5DP

5 жыл бұрын

Looks pretty warm, and it's an unprepped track (similar to what you'd see on the street).

@IT_Farhan

5 жыл бұрын

That was the most shocking thing to me as well.

@av3n..353

5 жыл бұрын

All this tech and for 60 and above weather , engineers aren't planning for much on Cali and Florida 110 weather 😂

@roshawn1111

5 жыл бұрын

950 pounds of downforce will limit trap times

@corystansbury

5 жыл бұрын

@@roshawn1111 Hardly. An ACR with twice the downforce runs nearly identical to the regular Viper. What you're seeing is the utter disdain for heat which is common with PD (especially roots) blowers.

Should've been the best of both worlds; GT2 RS vs ZR1

@buffboi9454

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that would been fair....

@chrisanderson2204

4 жыл бұрын

I like the Corvette,but I think they did it to give the Corvette a chance

@trashbandit2449

4 жыл бұрын

Price difference would have been insane and not comparable, like they said in the video

@theamazingcj5708

3 жыл бұрын

Gt2rs is too good

@keemerbecks3941

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisanderson2204 ZR1 Corv

You guys nailed the audio. Voices and engines were both crisp and clear. Please share your secrets with the other channels so we can get more like this ;)

Carlos was always my favorite thing about Motortrend. I am glad you are doing what you love, you are a great car journalist

Thankyou for making a good review and explaining why you’re using a gt3 instead of an RS or gt2

I'd get the GT3 with a manual transmission option. Much better build quality and that sweet NA, rear engine is bliss. Can't lose with picking either one though

@lmklogistics9717

5 жыл бұрын

Well pick the vette and with the years the market value will be low, but with Porsche, then you can't loose, those gt series are worth a lot even after 20, 30, 40, 50 years, the corvette in 40 years probably is at the junker or recycling center

@TsukuyomiPlayz

5 жыл бұрын

lol if the Porsche doesnt catch on fire

@Fearzzy

5 жыл бұрын

daniel rodriguez u know porsche track cars are way more reliable than anything chevy can offer right?

@TsukuyomiPlayz

5 жыл бұрын

Fearzzy and where did you get this statistic from?

@Fearzzy

5 жыл бұрын

literally go back to the last z06 which is a few years old and it had serious cooling issues. gt3's are famous for their reliability, american made cars are just worse made generally speaking

Good team! Great comparaison. Thanks.

Good show! Beautifully shot and edited. I really like the format, without any forced 'winner' or quasi-meaningless lap-times. Honest evaluations, 'this car is this, that car is that', very good

@vernonprice5986

5 жыл бұрын

I disagree. Lap times on other tracks have shown that the ZR1 is MASSIVELY faster than the GT3 around a track. You can say a Miata is awesome to drive around a track and don't provide lap times, does that mean it's the better track car? I think you need some context. At VIR, the ZR1 absolutely fucking OBLITERATED the GT3 by EIGHT SECONDS PER LAP. Are you sure that information isn't relevant? I think it is.

That GT3 sounds absolutely amazing🤤

That European guy hated the corvette before he even looked at it. Funny how they say the corvette is harder to drive, yet he drove it 1 handed, whereas he needed 2 hands for the Porsche. Of course the corvette is harder and scarier, it's got 255 MORE horsepower and 2x the torque.

@dimmacommunication

5 жыл бұрын

That's strange, us europeans love corvettes

@AmericanBusinessman422

5 жыл бұрын

@@dimmacommunication somebody sounds butt hurt because the vette lost, and rightfully so..

@bigjdm5460

5 жыл бұрын

Turd Ferguson bro, just stop. We all know the Porsche is the superior car. The lighter, more cohesive without trying option. The wing alone looks so tacky on that ZR1. The hood , the seating position, the ZR1 just looks like they pushed it pass it's capabilities so it's just fast and a mess to drive and look at.

@martyndyson9501

5 жыл бұрын

And the corvette has been made by semi trained Mexicans for peanuts! You are definitely putting your life at risk driving a cheaply made vette! More bhp doesn't make it a better car!

@martyndyson9501

5 жыл бұрын

You just know that wing has been put together by a Mexican using nothing but a cheap glue gun, he's probably got about 1000 to do before dinner! And his cousin is quality control so no worries there!Actually the whole car has been put together with a hot glue gun,screws and spit by underpaid overworked underskilled Mexicans all related that can't be bothered and are day dreaming about getting their next fix as soon as his sister who works in the office let's them finally go home to the trailer park next door!

Loving Edmunds more and more with each video!!!!!

Thank you for actually making a decision instead of waffling like most comparison videos do.

I would counter-argue that the increased residual value of the GT3 will be offset by the massive maintenance and repair cost difference. Everything on a Porsche will cost a king's ransom to replace or repair. Some other people mentioned that there is also considerable MSRP markup on the GT3, and that won't hold its value much.

@harmonyjim1

5 жыл бұрын

WRONG. I have driven my RS for over 30k miles, and it has been stone ax reliable.

@jordanjoestar8839

5 жыл бұрын

Porsche is #1 in the world for turbo vehicle reliability.

AWESOME.... and Lago at it again yey :)... love it, missed these kind of vids ever since Motortrend went bust (and/or started charging for everything ). However I still think you shouldve tracked them, lap times. Not with a professional driver like you said, but, maybe Lago should drive each and post the time. That would give us sort of a realistic reference what each car is like in the hands of a "civilian" and what perhaps to watch out for, what might be annoying etc... Seriously , two cars, a track. Lap times are a must. And If not Lago, find someone a bit less experienced for a even better portrayal how cars are in the hands of a average car enthusiast who will own these cars and what they should expect. And again great job guys. Also much much prefer the genuine chemistry between you two guys and the back / forth in comparison to the forced banter on MT.

I love the affordability of the corvette. I also love that they supercharged the V8. get more boost on the low end and less peak on the high end. little extra smooth power with less lag. big believer in super chargers. Even so, continuing to engineer highly tuned gas engines is likely a thing of the past.

I've said it before but the greatest sounding engine is a blown small block. Just incredible.

Loved this Edmunds more please, also Alistair and Carlos played off each other amazingly well. That said please include an on the road portion, you mentioned it here but didn't really show it.

For those congratulating Carlos on his new gig, he has been at Edmunds for quite a while now.

Great video👍🏼

Good review. It would be nice to see the lap times though.

I think we can start calling a ZR1 a supercar now. And damn, those are the slowest ZR1 numbers i've seen yet.

@Dolby109

5 жыл бұрын

For quarter mile? Yeah about 4/10ths off... Even the manual is a 10 second car.

@ericmartin894

5 жыл бұрын

yup it should have been in the 10s easily. sounds like some biased bull leaning towards the porsche

@Dolby109

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure I'd call it biased, but they maybe could have tried a little harder, as the auto's are pretty consistently running 10's at the drag strip. I can see the GT3 being the subjectively better car, but it would likely be vastly slower on track (no mention of lap times here). At VIR the GT3 C&D just lapped was only 1/10th of a second ahead of the 460hp Grand Sport, and *7.5 seconds* behind the ZR1.

@av3n..353

5 жыл бұрын

Until they bring out the c8 mid engine ? Don't call that a hypercar then

@idave4900

5 жыл бұрын

Around here, Corvettes are called Americans Sports car. For obvious reasons. Actually most of the Corvette fanboys i see tend to call this ZR1 a super car killer. As it competes and beats many of them for much less cost. Against the less cost is pretty obvious too but still.....

Corvette all day long... european car guy.

Amazing review

8:58 9k rpm is a beautiful thing... SO TRUE! I like the fact they mentioned it, I specially enjoy hi revs when I drive my AP1

This idea of cars being cabbage patch dolls has become ridiculous. So now the Porsche is a better value because of resale price even though the ZR 1 beats it in every metric. I really hope GM makes the C8 so far above European cars value wise its a no brainer. There is a 30,000 dollar price difference that cannot be ignored and that's just the base model and 60,000 for a fully kitted GT3. So a GT3 is a better value than a ZR1 plus a Camaro SS 1LE. Whatever world thinks that thinks that's a good deal is crazy.

@EK-rr2md

5 жыл бұрын

If the GT3 retains a larger percentage of its value than the ZR1 it would definitely make it a better value. It doesn't matter if it costs 30k more.

@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921

5 жыл бұрын

That's called speculation on a commodity that's disposable in the first place. Sports cars dont even sell that well anywhere so now its down to what can the GT3 do better than the ZR 1 and its not much. He is talking about a speculative market that can change at any time and that's not value related. So if I say Ferrari has a better resale value because its a Ferrari then where is the value metric if its less of a car.

@vernonprice5986

5 жыл бұрын

Erek K Only if performance is not part of the value equation. But since the ZR1 has so much more performance than the GT3 for less money, it is EASILY the better value.

@EK-rr2md

5 жыл бұрын

Vernon, they were strictly speaking about residual value. They said, "the residual values of a GT3 are so much stronger than a ZR1 that over a 3 or 5 year life cycle it might actually be the better financial choice." However, that may not end up being true if this ZR1 is only offered for 2019 but then again, every corvette in the past 40 years, with the exception of the 1996 GS, have depreciated fairly heavily.

@tori9365

5 жыл бұрын

@@EK-rr2md thats if you plan on selling it... Real car people dont buy dream cars just to sell them in the future ... They hang on to them and use them for what they were built to do!!! car calue is in the CAR itself NOT the money you can make from it!!!

Nice to see two of my favorite cars go against each other. It makes sense that the Porsche won and I predicted it. Porsche is all around a more balanced vehicle and it's German which means it's not going to be in a repair shop 24/7 like a Ford unless you are dumb enough to drive it into a tree. Overall I think I would still get the ZR1 because it's an outstanding car and I always have been a sucker for Chevrolet.

@aaronvector4750

10 ай бұрын

American cars in general are more reliable than German cars (except Ford of course)

Carlos! Happy I found you! Was wondering where you went! Subscribed!

@carlostorres8771

5 жыл бұрын

Hey 👋

I like a lot of different car reviewers but I don't think anyone (in my opinion of course) is better than carlos. He is the best one out there for me. The clarity, presence, approach and that phenomenal voice and articulation!... Best above the rest. I was surprised that MT let him go! They lost the best in the business, and now he is the MAN at Edmunds. Good job Edmunds!

The zr1 0to60 time in 2.8or2.7 How do you say in 3.3s And the 1/4mile time is 10.6 Not11.2

@mont7481

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@Iceican

4 жыл бұрын

thats the times they got themselves

I love how these are high performance cars but we literally take out the most importing part of that comparison when one car comes from a part of the work that's supposed to make a better car. Every time there's a European vs American car comparison it's suddenly about "how it feels" instead of performance. This is obviously because, as we all know, the zr1 wipes the floor with the Porsche along with a long list of other beloved "super cars". So tired of car comparisons being one car beeting the other in 90% of the categories and still losing because " this just feels more refined". If that's what you're looking for don't get either of these. Go by a m5 and have a relaxing drive on Sunday afternoons

@WindyCity1992

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Im about done with cars A hobby that i live has been ruined By bias. Performance should win Everytime not opinions. Its crazy

@trevormassenburge4308

5 жыл бұрын

@Sergio Aguirre and guess what, even tho they are similar numbers the "wal mart super car" still wins while costing almost half the price and with more power. Also everyone who know cars, knows how tuned down the lt5 is, so there's plenty of room for more. Still not an argument that the Porsche is better, if anything it makes the Porsche look worse

@WindyCity1992

5 жыл бұрын

@Sergio Aguirre You sound like a clown. You guys Throw V8s in every car but talk Trash if Americans do it. FYI OHV V8s are lighter than DOHC

@WindyCity1992

5 жыл бұрын

@Sergio Aguirre The GT2RS weighs 500 ibs less And also uses R compound tires You dont have a clue do you ??? The LT5 weighs less than the L6

@stevenhancock2822

5 жыл бұрын

I was a huge fan of the bozo saying that despite the Corvette having a huge actual advantage in braking, the Porsche's brakes "feel" superior. WTF.

Whoa! I missed Carlos Lago! Good to see he's still going at it

finally some good content from edmunds

Love the guy whom is from motor trend. Not to keen on the guy he left behind. The ZR1 is so much better looking then the Porsche, It’s odd how everyone reports different 0-60 times. I like the GM ones of 2.85 and 1/4 of 10.6 but they did get a 10.8 @ road and track.

@ALMX5DP

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing odd about variation in testing. Way too many variables to truly compare, that's why figures such as these or lap times are pretty useless.

@MaxwellReviresco

5 жыл бұрын

Alan Bowers Exactly. Shit...try going to an actual drag strip. You’ll see ZR1 drivers banging out 2.2 60’ and 12’s in the 1/4 mile, lol. Cars are like guns. In the wrong hands they can they can easily miss their intended targets. This is why modern cars have all these nannies, LC system and etc. I get it, but can’t stand it at the same time. Can’t take much pride as an driver if the car is doin the work for you. I’d pick the ZR1 with a MT. Although, I LOVE the GT3’s motor!

@Dolby109

5 жыл бұрын

"I get it, but can’t stand it at the same time. Can’t take much pride as an driver if the car is doin the work for you." So much this!!! I get so annoyed when people brag about drag racing a car like a GT-R, etc that is automatic, AWD, and has launch control. You pushed a pedal, good for you.

@av3n..353

5 жыл бұрын

You're the only dude bitching , you can't have Carlos alone or 2 Carlos , calm your tits , you will not like everyone in your workplace ? So chill. .

@andriesbarnard3335

5 жыл бұрын

Porsche fan but man, that ZR1 is just awesome! Proper handling, proper sportscar / supercar now! Live the look also.

6:30 Carlos must have been on shrooms when he heard about the weight difference. 400lbs isn't a big difference? LMAO that would literally put it in a different class based on racing specifications, beyond that it will definitely affect the power to weight ratio, the launch, acceleration, braking, etc.

Carlos Lago, so good to have you back, missed you a lot

Best Edmunds team by far. Great review guys. I am very jealous of your career choice.

these guys were pretty biased toward the porsche right from the get go. im a porsche fan myself but you cant deny this corvette is better than that porsche. plus a few years from now you could easily find that corvette for 75k less

@JerseyMikeP

5 жыл бұрын

LOL, Not a Zr-1. That car will Go up in value MORE based on Initial Cost than the ACR. It's like the Idiots talking about the Ford GT that already are getting 3x the price at auctions. Rare Corvettes have been some of the BIGGEST investments in the car would. Others are Mercedes Gull wings, F40s, F1 McLarens...when it comes to street legal sportscars.

@dereks66

5 жыл бұрын

Ah, wrong. The GT3 is much better racing vehicle and it would beat the vette on the track time at Laguna Seca or any endurance event like a Le Mans.

@pleasegrowabrain

5 жыл бұрын

Stratford1 Ah, you’re wrong. The vette is the quicker of the two - one just needs to have some driving talent to extract that quickness. The cars are pretty evenly matched, but it’s hard to argue with 755 crank horsepower. Yes, the Porsche is more refined, but it had better be for $35K more. I’m just a fan of the brute force the vette brings to the contest. The vette is also better looking. The Porsche just looks like every other Porsche. Not necessarily a bad thing, but pretty boring when we’re seeing the same body style for 50 years or so.

@dereks66

5 жыл бұрын

Guitarzen, you should check out 2018 Detroit Grand Prix Pace Car clip. Hahaha, ok, enough joking aside. The GT3 was faster 0-60, tied the vette in the 1/4. That said, the GT3 is a better handling car, and they have the engine in the right place. Hahahah.

@User-th6yy

5 жыл бұрын

Thats why it does 7:12 on the ring, same as the over 200 hp weaker 911 gt3 lmaooooo

ALMS..Corvette C7R just won the Weathetech sports car championship for the 3rd year running..beating porsche ferrari ford gt and bmw..no one can touch Corvette.

I Hate Motor Trend. The sad part is, while I was a youngster my Dad, traditionally bought me a subscription for Christmas as my gift. I remember checking that mail box many many times in the summer and be extraordinarily delighted when my eyes beheld the Motor Trend magazine. Nowadays, I purposely avoid Motor Trend of any sort be it printed or online. That said, Carlos, you are one of the few recent Motor Trend journalists that I enjoy thoroughly. You are well spoken, and allow the viewer to glimpse what you are referring to in a tangible way. That is enjoyable and I look forward to more content. By the by, you could do without the other guy. I didn't hear him compliment the Chevy once. It was very obvious that he dislikes the Chevy for one reason or another. I believe Corvette won more than once at the 24hrs of Le Mans. That's all that needs said regarding his opinion. Long live Chevy, and God bless America.

Very nicely done. No fantasy aspects where there’s a silly “price is no object” perspective, and there’s a much more useful customer-relevant review. I do find it interesting that deep performance discussions of the cars don’t mention (in any reviews) IMSA GT LeMans results over the last three years or so.

@JerseyMikeP

5 жыл бұрын

The Race cars are Very different....Irrelevant when talking about the street model.

ZR1!

@joshbradley61

5 жыл бұрын

So your choice of corvette is a little obvious MR My Corvette life! LOL :-)

@studio-flash

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Chris...Corvette all the way.

@colocaomantequilla1289

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty much. Haha. Definitely a better car

@Aseutester

5 жыл бұрын

@@tylerk.2297 Not an argument.

@oneslackr

5 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't waste over 6 figures on a ZR1. It's a Z06 with a larger supercharger, a few extra coolers, a different front end that looks like a largemouth bass with its mouth wide open, & it has a wing that looks like an ironing board/afterthought (it's not integrated into the design of the car at all). But that's what happens when you take a Z06 at the end of its generation & then try to throw a few extra parts on it to come up with a ZR1.

So much better than Motortrend. These two guys are great together and so are the cars. Truly a great comparison by two great presenters. The video is well produced and lets us listen to the melodious sounds of two superlative cars. Please keep these videos coming and don’t change a thing, the videos are perfect as is. However, I totally disagree with your choice, the ZR1 is the better car in almost every respect including being a better financial investment over time. But thanks anyway for an outstanding video.

Carlos - good to see you back. One of the best reviewers on the planet. Cheers

Would love to see manual ZR1 versus viper ACR - E! Great video.

@raymartin9129

3 жыл бұрын

Viper all day long.

I COULD HAVE TOLD U WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO SAY BEFORE THE VIDEO STARTED...AMERICAN CARS, NO MATTER HOW FAR THEY HAVE COME, NO MATTER HOW GREAT THEY ARE.... THEY ALMOST ALWAYS CHOOSE THE PORSCHE, AMG, BMW M CAR.. I HAVE WATCHED THESE ENOUGH OVER THE YEARS TO TELL YOU THAT THE CHANCES OF AN AMERICAN CAR WINNING COMPARISON TESTS AGAINST FOREIGN COMP. IS VERY FEW AND FAR BETWEEN..

@joeyc1826

5 жыл бұрын

True, I a few months ago I seen a track video comparing the Cadillac CTS-V to a BMW..... guess who won overall?.......... BMW.... when I was watching the video I was like like yeah ,I Know what car is gonna win..., anyways American Muscle all day🇺🇸!

@chrislake2809

5 жыл бұрын

you have obviously never watched IMSA racing or le mans or the adac gt masters that corvette have dominated for the past 10 years

@becraftcorey

5 жыл бұрын

Probably becuse American car makers think the answer to everything is just give it more horsepower it's a difference in ideas hillbillys like big loud and smoky burn outs BMW Lexus AMG and porsha understand driving America cant even figure out awd

@NoanatorTV

5 жыл бұрын

@@chrislake2809 you know those cars have nothing to do with their civil counterparts? Spaceframe chassis and especially when it comes to the Corvette coilover suspension instead of leaf springs. This goes for any competing car tough, maybe except for the suspension part.

@chrislake2809

5 жыл бұрын

@@NoanatorTV the c7 roas car has coil overs,i have magnetic ride on my c7 z51, i know as a racing driver the race cars share little with the road cars,the ford is a prototype not even built by ford,the porsche is mid engine with the gearbox reversed ant the c7 has a 20 year old 5.5 litre engine not the 6.2 fitted in my c7 , the fords and bmw,s have pulled out of next years series ant the c8 is a mid engine twin turbo v8

That 911 was 8 SECONDS (2.39 vs. 2.47) slower PER LAP at VIR in professionals hands!! That is why they didn't want to have the pros put up real numbers! I'll take the cheaper ZR1 (that also outran the Ford GT, McLaren 720 and Huracan Performante) Any day of the week!

@iiredeyeiiredeye1569

5 жыл бұрын

Corvette faster than a 720 Mac? I’ll have some of what you’re smoking please!

@tori9365

5 жыл бұрын

@@iiredeyeiiredeye1569 look it up

@kalashnikovcortez1380

5 жыл бұрын

ZR1 gets ass kicked by McLaren 720 too easily, not even funny kzread.info/dash/bejne/qpWG07KsZbq1Yaw.html

@pgr3290

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not a Porsche fan but picking the GT3 is a no brainer. It's cheaper to own than the ZR1 when you factor depreciation, and you should because that is the single highest cost of owning a car! ZR1 after 3 years = lose $50k. GT3 after 3 years.....lose $30k. GT3 wins. As for the ZR1 versus the list you cited they are all a lot more expensive. They are also a lot better and I would easily have any of those with the ZR1 down at the bottom of that list.

@twobighedz

5 жыл бұрын

All you gotta do is read this months Car And Driver! The ZR1 outran all the car I listed around VIR! It only lost to a 300K 911 GT2 Weissach! www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2018

MT video reviews used to be like this, direct, not too much drama & cinematics whatsoever.... keeping it simple and pure makes it more effective in relaying the facts the reviewer want to convey to it's audience... Great Review Carlos, I'm glad you left MT their reviews is more of a circus than a source of facts nowadays....

Carlos... Respected reviewer. Thx.

That zr1 is my dream!

Carlos!!!! And a non-boring British guy (sorry Motortrend)!!!!!!

@martyndyson9501

5 жыл бұрын

I'm British and I'd rather be French than American! In fact I'd rather be German than a dumb yank!

@aaronvargas4588

5 жыл бұрын

@@martyndyson9501 Wow a British guy hating on Americans , who would of thought? Fuck you bitch.

@qmata2310

5 жыл бұрын

@@martyndyson9501 Not hatting on the british just that guy Jetro is boring af

@robertnunnenkamp436

5 жыл бұрын

@@martyndyson9501 my family came from Germany and I'm sure they wouldn't take you

Maintenance costs of the GT3 vs ZR1?

Bring us back to 4 years ago. Well down and pls continue doing this!

Love the ZR1.

I would go for the GT3 any day! It's good to see Carlos Lago too. I guess he got sick of how motortrend were doing things. :P

Great review!!! I'll take one of each car please and thank you

Love both cars. I'd take either one

I think it was Obvious the GT3 would win for many reasons! How they talked so much about it through the video and also has anyone else noticed that when a car is going to lose they always put test that car first? Like in this example they tested the ZR1 first that's how I knew it would lose SMH

Newsflash. Corvette has been around for LONGER than the 911. 1953 for the vette, the 911 1963.

@devontoms7936

4 жыл бұрын

David R whats this supposed to mean?

Great cars with two different driving dynamics. Good performance comparison.

That ZR1 sounds amazing. It’s a travesty optioning the GT3 with the PDK...Both amazing cars

Good luck trying to buy a GT3!

"we could get professional drivers to set lap times on the track, but that would give the win to Corvette in almost EVERY performance and value category so we'll skip that."

I can't wait to to see the GT3 vs C8 Z06 comparison. That will be one of the most watched comparisons we ever see.

@gracestingray

Жыл бұрын

Oh Z06 beat it in all terms

@Extra-dg7uv

Жыл бұрын

@@gracestingray Congrats. A car with 670 horsepower is faster than a car with 502.

@gracestingray

Жыл бұрын

@@Extra-dg7uv HP doesn't matter here , C7 ZR1 has raw HP , it preformers like a 200 HP car not a 755 because it really sucks on track especially against flat 6 with 200 porsches , they go like they are 1000 HP at least , porshces always have full potential on tracks , raw power is not good if it is not used , i know ZR1 is a beast of its own but it really sucks , it lost to a C6 ZR1 (an older ZR1 Gen) that has 640 HP instead of the 755 HP because of the C6 Gen has higher potenial in everything than C7 Gen , C7 Gen just only higher number with more raw power , C6 mastered the HP potenial very well even against porsches back in 2013 , i guess GM learned from that by released the mid-engine Vette (C8 Gen) , its potenial is very high , i wonder what if C6 ZR1 vs C8 Z06 (with same HP to make it fair 700 vs 700) , i wonder how C8 Z06 will do against the KING VETTE , if C6 ZR1 will still the king after the big failure of C7 ZR1 or finally it will rest in peace and let the next gen take the mantle , idk , but i am sure C8 ZR1/ZORA will do but how far is it , idk , but you must be sure C6 ZR1 still the king of corvettes today , from 2009 to today (2023) , i love it so hard to the point it makes me cry when i see it walking like a true king on street (i am overreatcing i know) 🤣🤣

@gracestingray

Жыл бұрын

@@Extra-dg7uv well that 670 HP also can beat 788 HP ferrari too adn you know what , it did kzread.info/dash/bejne/naaWvLJmcdHZdJs.html by hands of legendary brooks , so don't be fooled by numbers please

Great review and oddly refreshing

The ZR1 looks and sounds better and with the engine broken in can hit 60 in 2.8 seconds according to most reviews. As a daily driver it’s probably roomier and more comfortable too.

@mikehlee69

5 жыл бұрын

Doug Smith Definitely not more comfortable

why tf didnt u get the manual versions for them!!?!?!?

@jasonperdue2554

3 жыл бұрын

There is no manuel GT3. Porsche hasn't offered a GT 911 manuel for ages

How is the zr1 that slow in the 0-60 times ? It's doing 2.8s 0 to 60 with other drivers and tracks ?

Those rims on the GT3 are amazing!

Love Carlos. Alistair...well he's alright but you pick up a whiff of that arrogant British thing once in a while.

@DaBrute

5 жыл бұрын

The arrogant British thing is him just being British...

@martyndyson9501

5 жыл бұрын

Says the obnoxious americans! we do our best not to look down at but sometimes we just can't help it! We are actually only being nice so we don't hurt your feelings! We don't like to be nasty or horrible to their faces it's not the British way to act!

@gypsykingg

5 жыл бұрын

@@martyndyson9501 - Most of us Americans are extremely sensitive.

@kenshinhimura9387

5 жыл бұрын

@@DaBrute he's a fucking piece of shit

@kenshinhimura9387

5 жыл бұрын

@@martyndyson9501 Americans are better than you. We look down on you and feel very sorry for you.

Corvette all day

@Carlos - Great to see that smile is back!!! - This is what we need! Great work! Kudos to Alistair as well! - Now the only thing that is missing is Randy Pobst :)

@hahaLOLhaha72

5 жыл бұрын

agreed! and ZX6R owner here as well! 👌

@BorisZX6R

5 жыл бұрын

Ah great, a fellow rider. I have used this username since I bought my first real bike (2000 ZX-6R), but I no longer ride that, just staying loyal to the username :). I had the bike from 2001-2005 then a few years later bought a CBR-1000RR which I had for 7 years and just last year I got a ZX-14R. ZX-6R is a great bike, ride safe!

@martyfisher3860

2 жыл бұрын

Tfcrrr DC C gdx 21c fry

I just subscribed for Carlos I liked him on motortrend keep it up

the numbers are wrong on the corvette zr1 it should be 10.8 seconds in the 1/4 mile not 11.3 the 1/4 mile times for the gt3 are right.

Listening to Europeans verbal spooge over "40 years of Germanic engineering" makes me throw up in my mouth. As if the corvette hasn't been around for 75 years now.

@Eatinbritches

5 жыл бұрын

Yet it's only really been developed into a world class sports car over the past couple decades or so. If anything, the Porsche has been around longer, since the 911 is a replacement for the 356, which came out in 1948.

@Freimopp777

5 жыл бұрын

65 years

@duraab27

5 жыл бұрын

So are you saying a Porsche 911 GT3 RS that beats a Corvette in the Nürburgring Nordscheliefe throws up in your mouth, because of stupid EU citizens that brags about "40 years of German Engineering" in where a Porsche is number 1 in the fastest Nordschleife time in the world? (Old Porsche)

@Spotie

5 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure his comment is self-explanatory, and isn't that stupidity you just came up with.

@duraab27

5 жыл бұрын

@@Spotie lol I wanted to make a joke about stupidity from both sides

Carlos!!! Glad your back

Lol @ Carlos's face when dude said ive be reviewing cars way longer than him

Corvette is a beast, but GT3 is a masterpiece

@steviedee71

4 жыл бұрын

Hea Mees nicely said 👌

How did I know the Porsche was going to win before I watched the video? Sad!!!

@STRAKKERSTECHNO

5 жыл бұрын

Bias comes to mind😳🙄

two 0f my favorite cars great choices for this challenge!!!!

Add who can work on a zr1 per hr vs gt3