its interesting that the two lead actors are still called craig and chris

Biggest failure was they made Lister a working joe to a hollywood pretty boy.

I seriously didn't get the obsession with "Americanizing" British shows. They are usually perfect the way they are. (The Office being the ONLY one that actually worked.)

@michaelinlofi

Жыл бұрын

Money talks. If something's doing well, people will do their own version of it in an attempt to cash in on it. And to be completely fair this isn't a uniquely American problem, but I think they might have the worst track record for it in terms of quality.

@SanFran51

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelinlofi The laughably ironic thing is that it's actually much cheaper to just import the show.

@evrbody

9 ай бұрын

I recall Sanford and Son being pretty successful as well.

@PlasmaCoolantLeak

8 ай бұрын

@@evrbody "All In The Family" as well.

@glenmale1748

3 ай бұрын

Gotta disagree with the Office. The US version lacked any of the self-aware awkwardness that made the original so endearing. The subtle sideway glances at the obvious camera crew just disappeared. Oh, and 9 series! Shakespeare put it best in Hamlet; "Brevity is the soul of wit"

I'm glad Craig Bierko was self aware that the remake was going to be a dud. Lister had that everyman charm, and Craig was too handsome for the part.

@michaelinlofi

Жыл бұрын

And then there's the whitewashing involved too. Craig Charles was pretty miffed about that too - apparently he took to calling the American attempts White Dwarf

A similar thing happened with a film about true events secret British military operation during 2nd World War that was kept secret from America and obviously no Americans were involved in any way at all. The film cast naturally an American in the leading role who took on this entire 'exclusive secret British operation' to its completion, not only that after completion and back in the USA, was honoured in an American military parade.

They did the same thing to "are you being served?"

@michaelinlofi

9 ай бұрын

What in God's name would the point of that be? Are You Being Served relies a lot on cultural things like knowing what Harrod's is, doesn't it? (I haven't seen the show but I am aware of the premise)

It's like the Dollar General version of Red Dwarf.

@michaelinlofi

Жыл бұрын

That's a pretty apt description actually

Nice vid man. Subbed and looking forward to the second one

@michaelinlofi

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate, much appreciated!

Sometimes there is just no improving on the original. The office was one of the exceptions. Both versions were excellent.

Bierko is a great actor and Hinton is a wonderful talent. The USA pilot was never going to match the original any day of the week.

I thought I imagined this American version until it popped up on youtube 😂 I thought maybe when I was a kid I saw maybe a directors cut or something but no, it's an American version I probably saw once

Tiktoks working for you dude, noice vid aaaaaaand subbed

@michaelinlofi

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, man!

So they were setting this in an alternate universe? Shame they did a bad job of it, it could have been interesting.

The American Red Dwarf pilot could have been better. Would be good if Terry Farrell guest starred in UK Red Dwarf.

@michaelinlofi

Жыл бұрын

Would have been interesting. Terry Farrell can definitely be funny if Deep Space Nine is evidence of anything. She should have just never been cast as the Cat in that second pilot

@danielwilliamson6180

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelinlofi If the 2nd Red Dwarf USA pilot had been much better, it could have been Terry Farrell's big breakout role, not DS9.

The only people who could have judged RDUS objectively would be people who never saw the UK version. To the rest of us it's too much like they took a classic Beatles album like Revolver, changed the songs a bit, and redid it with different people.

Yes, I think the US versions are crap. Yet for some reason, I find myself coming back and rewatching them now and again. Guess it's just mere curiosity to how they were handled compared to the UK series. Plus the Dwarfing USA documentary on the Series 5 DVD when they mention Jane Leeves was how I first became hooked on Frasier. Definitely prefer Jane as Daphne than as Holly. Terry Farrell was okay as Cat in the 2nd Pilot, but definitely prefer her as Jadzia Dax in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

@michaelinlofi

9 ай бұрын

I agree, Jane's comic timing is much better utilised on Frasier. Being in the same room as Kelsey Grammar and David Hyde Pierce and still being a standout character is no small feat. And Terry Farrell might have been a good fit for the Cat if it weren't for the whole whitewashing aspect that I vaguely touched on in the video. But you're right she's much, much better in Deep Space Nine

Making Lister a suave charmer misses tge whole point, because it ruins all the humor that stemmed from the contrast between Lister and overzelaous, uptight Rimmer.

The worst one I’ve heard is America was thinking of doing a crap version of only fools and horses

@michaelinlofi

10 ай бұрын

I'm not familiar with that one, but I did a quick google of the synopsis. Just from that I'm confused as to what the point of an American version of that would be

just discovered this was a thing that existed and its quite funny to me how pathetic it is as a piece of media in general i also never liked the woman holly as much as the original one so it feels kind of wrong for the usa one to make them a woman from the start (ignoring the shit casting of everyone else in general lol)

@michaelinlofi

2 жыл бұрын

See I think Hattie Hayridge herself was pretty funny. The problem was that with Kryten on board Holly's role was reduced so she wasn't given a great deal to work with imo

@Bruh-zx2mc

Жыл бұрын

"i also never liked the woman holly as much as the original one so it feels kind of wrong for the usa one to make them a woman from the start" It's nothing to do with their gender, bozo. They just didn't have the deadpan delivery Norman had.

I thought there was only ONE good joke in the first pilot. Holly (Jane Leeves) was whining about her lot, and then a shock wave runs through her system and she has this lovely little aroused look, then says "Actually, that one felt kinda good!" One. Good. Joke. That's pathetic. And then for the second pilot, they replaced Hinton Battle as the Cat with Terry Farrell, who was ... interesting. I didn't buy either of them as a cat, and Farrell made me think somewhat of Scrappy-Doo - only actually funny. In the end, it was another attempt by the US adapting a quintessential British show that fell flat on its ass. And that is why we never got an American AbFab series, and thank all the spirits for THAT!

@michaelinlofi

6 ай бұрын

The idea of an AbFab show without French and Saunders sounds like sheer blasphemy

@kali3665

6 ай бұрын

@@michaelinlofi Still, one of the proposed American pilots would have starred Carrie Fisher, though I never heard whom she would have played. There is another AbFab pilot on KZread starring Kristen Johnson of 3rd Rock as Patsy. She might have pulled it off, but the thought we might have had an AbFab series starring Carrie Freaking Fisher still sounds fascinating.

I don't think the us has ever understood British humour they just don't get it

@michaelinlofi

Жыл бұрын

The audience understands the humour fine I think. BBC America does pretty pretty well. However, people who write for American comedies? Hell no. They don't understand it at ALL

The remake was congested. Lost all of the UK flavor that made the original great. Tried to introduce everyone at once. But the biggest flaw, in my opinion, was the casting. None of it worked.

You know I hate it when Americans bring over British creators and the Americans treat them like crap.... You know the people WHO KNOW HOW IT WORKS.

@michaelinlofi

Жыл бұрын

It's quite obnoxious

@SanFran51

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelinlofi At least when ABC did the American Cyberpunk Max Headroom show they actually brought the the UK executive producer and the writer from the TV movie and left them to it.

The american Red Dwarf series failed for many reasons. One reason was, they couldn't grasp the idea of English comedy.

I don't feel the colour of the characters is really important, and I think it is a little racist to raise this point. They are not historical characters, and their skin colour does not matter. The reason Danny got the job is because he was amazing in the audition. I think whoever would be best for the part can play the characters. 🤨

It's delivery of the joke and the accents. British accents make things sound more intelligent and so it's funnier.

@michaelinlofi

Жыл бұрын

I don't think that's inherently the case. Britain and America have very different styles of comedy is the main problem here, and the English cynicism that's core to Red Dwarf just doesn't translate. Not hiring good comedians to deliver the jokes just sealed the shows fate. The only one aside from Llewellyn who's funny on the US pilot is Jane Leeves, and she proved she could be hilarious on Frasier

American humor and Brit humor doesn't translate directly. Terrible idea

@michaelinlofi

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Different senses of humour, different things don't quite work

@credit0880

Жыл бұрын

there were a few funny jokes. but thats it.

@Bruh-zx2mc

Жыл бұрын

​@@credit0880 Even the "grit the path with Kochanski" joke landed flat. The original Holly delivered it deadpan and with a frown, the US one delivered it _with_ _a_ _smile._ 🤦‍♀

@michaelinlofi

Жыл бұрын

That is the key that kills the joke in the American version. The joke of the "grit the pathway" line is that it's a horrible horrible thing to say but Holly's been alone so long he's just forgotten to filter his thoughts. In the American one it seems like Holly just making fun of Lister, making the joke a lot more mean spirited and therefore not quite as funny

@dcmastermindfirst9418

Жыл бұрын

American humour simply isn't funny.

It seems that it was about as successful as the American's version of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy".

@michaelinlofi

Жыл бұрын

You're gonna laugh, but I have a whole video about how much I don't hate that movie and how I kinda like it

@neuvocastezero1838

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelinlofi I don't hate it, but it was disappointing to see a hilarious comedy rendered into an occasionally mirthful sci fi adventure.

@allanbard6048

Жыл бұрын

BBC "HitchHiker's Guide" is right next to my Red Dwarf dvd's. As it should be.

@michaelinlofi

Жыл бұрын

That miniseries is one of the BBC's best works. I might like the movie, but the BBC miniseries is by miles the better live action version of the story

If they remade it today it would be woke.

@michaelinlofi

7 ай бұрын

As opposed to the original, which never tackled concepts like gender discrimination, the justice system, war, fascism...

Wtf? Where's the whimsical humor?

Am I the only one who thinksthis wasn't all that bad?

@michaelinlofi

3 жыл бұрын

It's all a matter of taste I suppose. It's not as bad as I was prepared for, but I'm still ultimately not a fan of it

@sumthingwikked4257

Жыл бұрын

It's half-assed and that's offensive to Red Dwarf fans.