They didn't predict it, it was an open secret, particularly in the industry, and it came back to the same argument of "no one will believe me, it's Jimmy Saville". No one was surprised when the story came out.

@lonegroover

2 жыл бұрын

Savile even admitted to one incident in his autobiography, which seems astonishing now.

@FirelordJade

2 жыл бұрын

Yea similar open secret with Epstein.

@nintendive

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly this.

@Clem.H.Fandango

2 жыл бұрын

Johnny Rotten tried to tell everyone and was banned from the BBC.

@daftgowk1

2 жыл бұрын

A bit like Harvey Weinstein really, same cover up by cowardly accomplices

John Lydon of the Sex Pistols did a TV interview in 1978 where he claimed Savile was "into all sorts of seediness. We all know about it but we're not allowed to talk about it. I know some rumours." He also claimed the BBC banned him over that, though giving other excuses. John Lydon discussed this with Piers Morgan in a show that first aired in 2015, and there are press references to it online. There were other public hints and clues, some due to Savile himself - e.g. in a 1999 episode of Have I Got News For You, Savile joked "I'm feared in every girls school in this country". Jimmy Saville was also famous as a host of Top of the Pops, and there are also claims about other people involved in Top of the Pops - but with so many claims out there, it's difficult to sort truth from fiction. Bill Oddie is especially hated for irresponsibly letting Twinkle out for the night - kzread.info/dash/bejne/ppZpm8Z-eLXaZbQ.html

@paulsmith2516

2 жыл бұрын

Saville actually hosted very few episodes of TOTP because the BBC were fully aware of exactly what kind of scumbag he was and that while happy to cover up what he was doing, they realised they couldn't actually let him loose in a studio full of teenage girls.

@Clem.H.Fandango

2 жыл бұрын

*Johnny Rotten

@wolfzmusic9706

2 жыл бұрын

@@Clem.H.Fandango that was his stage name. John Lydon is his real name

@persevering.by.alex.duncan

2 жыл бұрын

Clip of John Lyndon (a.k.a. Johnny Rotten) talking about his comments over Jimmy Savile: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6d_0Ll6ecrWfLw.html

@AcornElectron

2 жыл бұрын

@@Clem.H.Fandango Lydon is his real last name.

My Dad was in Stoke Mandeville hospital, he had a terminal condition. This was at a time when Jimmy was a huge supporter and fund raiser. He was also at the time on TV with Jim'll Fix It, so was a national household name and beloved by millions. At this time he was seen as the most trusted person in Briton. I was a fan. So I asked my dad if he had met him. My dad's face dropped and he said there is something very wrong with that man. He's been in a few times, but it's all an act, he does the big speech and catch phrases but does not make eye contact with anyone. The nurses are frightened of him. Don't trust him. I was a child and suspect he didn't want to say more, but the rumors surrounded him even then in the mid 70s. From that moment on I had my eyes opened. It was so obvious. My father's description of him. Chills me to this day. It wasn't just what my day said but how he said it, describing him as this empty robotic man, nothing behind the mask, like he wasn't in the room and it was all an act.

@MarmaLloyd

2 жыл бұрын

I was talking to a co-worker only today unaware of this documentary. She met him when she worked at a hospital. Said she expressed how he was interacting with the children was wrong but they managed to gaslight her in to thinking she was crazy almost the same way. That everyone knew him, it's how he is etc. It was more than an open secret at the time. That's why the audience laughed and that was a decade or more later

@marcuscross8051

2 жыл бұрын

Looking at clips of him now, every time he speaks it seems like an act. He never comes across as an authentic genuine person. It always seems like he's pretending and reeling off rehearsed lines.

@adrianschannel5643

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcuscross8051 you have to remember he was a very experienced performer a radio 1 DJ and presenter, if you look at 70s light entertainment shows and quizzes at the time now they are very cringy full of inane catchphrases and repetition. So this was the norm rather than the exception. It was just the fact that when my dad met him, he was a shell of a man. I had the opposite reaction to Bob Monkhouse when I met him, I always viewed him as this fake embarrassing 70s quiz show host. But I was given tickets to a charity fund raiser that he attended and did bit for. He was so funny in real life and so warm and charming. So a lot of these 70s hosts were cast into the same formulaic repetitive mold. Saville wore it like a suit, to hide the monster within.

@davidjames579

2 жыл бұрын

@@adrianschannel5643 Women who had sex with Saville when they were adults said the sex was quick and totally un-emotional, even for him it seemed. He had no interest in them as people or even as carnal fun. It appears the only pleasure he had was control. Even in his interviews where he talked about becoming a DJ so he could have a Fun Life as his job, and that he enjoyed having no responsibilities or cares in life, it sounds like an act, a boast, but with no relish of it. It's like he wanted to show how free and happy he was, but gained nothing from it. That was my impression anyway. I've seen an interview where he talks about Ultimate Power, and how he has it, and very few people do. Of course at the time viewers didn't realise what he meant in relation to himself. His talk of being able to do whatever he wanted and get away with it made it sound like he just enjoyed being a 'naughty boy'. But even when he talks about Ultimate Power, he makes it sound like the desire is to gain it rather than enjoy the elements. Some have suggested that his deliberate slips of truth about what he was doing was an attempt by him to both go to the next level of Ultimate Power, and to shock and have people's admiration. As has been said what's the point of committing the Perfect Crime if nobody knows you did it. It may also have been an attempt to put off the ennui by playing Chicken with his crimes and taking satisfaction from him telling people and no one believing him. Or a further level of Ultimate Power if he thought his victims heard these interviews as it would make them realise how unbeatable he was.

@BatCaveOz

2 жыл бұрын

*Britain (Briton is a person... Britain is a place)

Abusing children is actually an understatement. Corpses, disabled inpatients, inmates at Broadmoor asylum... We will never know how deep his poison went

@metube9541

2 жыл бұрын

He also kept his mothers corpse for a few days.

Are we the Baddies? Is a classic sketch

@NathanRae

2 жыл бұрын

This is definitely the best.

@seeingyouaround

2 жыл бұрын

came to comment the same 👌🏼

@S6WLUKAS

2 жыл бұрын

Golden

@jenniferwalrad6719

2 жыл бұрын

Totally came here to say the same. ["Pirates are fun!" "I didn't say we weren't *fun* -- fun or not pirates are still the baddies..."] So good.

@staceyn2541

2 жыл бұрын

It's one of their greatest, and it's also the first in the series, which always amazes me. :)

Johnny Lydon from the sex pistols said it live on BBC 1 back in 70's 80' and he was banned from the BBC for decades, it was known in the industry.

@jonny5alive123

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the whole scandal revolved around everyone in the industry having heard about things but never doing anything about them. And Jimmy Saville wasn't the only one.

@maxdax1966

2 жыл бұрын

Interview below kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6d_0Ll6ecrWfLw.html

@domb5513

2 жыл бұрын

John Lydon's full of shit. He heard rumours, which he repeated. He wasn't banned, that's him being a drama queen

@I_Don_t_want_a_handle

2 жыл бұрын

If they knew why did they not do something? Did they care more about their careers than the kids being raped? Probably.

@electrolinks

2 жыл бұрын

Correct

I’m in the UK and remember being told about Saville’s behaviour a decade before the scandal broke. It was a coworker who grew up near Saville’s hometown who told me that whenever a child went missing, Saville was always one of the people the police spoke to.

The comments about Savile's extracurricular activities being an "open secret" in the industry (and perhaps wider) mirror exactly the feelings in Australia when it was revealed what a spectacular shit of a person Rolf Harris was in real life. In particular one female media personality writing the story of being a young reporter and when given the choice of assignment requesting an interview with Rolf Harris, who she'd grown up watching on tv. An older male colleague tried very hard to warn her off, but was unwilling to go into details and being young she waved his veiled warnings off and went ahead. The experience of the interview was almost career-ending for her. He groped her, both chatted her up and belittled her after the interview was over and she felt obliged to go ahead and air the interview anyway with the male colleague saying he tried to warn her, but couldn't make specific allegations as he'd only ever heard rumours. Like Savile, the public image was protected by the threat of lawyer's letters.

@CoffeeConnected

2 жыл бұрын

Rolf Harris was also a star in the UK, so the British public probably felt the impact of that just as much, if not more so, as the people who felt it in Australia. Like Savile Rolf Harris was known for presenting children's TV programmes in the 70s and 80s. Funny how they both managed to find a path to children through the same system.

@biggusdickkus2956

2 жыл бұрын

@@CoffeeConnected If I'd been given a million guesses l would never have thought Harris was a perv. Did such a good job on us didn't he.

@aaronleverton4221

2 жыл бұрын

@@CoffeeConnected We know Harris was a big deal in the UK, we grew up watching his specials filmed there, but presented on the ABC etc, then, when we were teenagers, he recorded Stairway for Andrew Denton while Savile was unknown in Australia, so Harris is the only equivalent we have. I haven't looked into Denton's response to the whole Harris thing, but he was responsible for returning Harris to stardom in Australia.

@benvallentine7197

2 жыл бұрын

Rolf was bigger in the UK. He hadn't done anything in Australia since the very early 80s, and his case couldn't hold a candle to Savile's.

@justinholmes5614

2 жыл бұрын

I genuinely didn’t know when it came to Harris. I grew up here in England watching Rolf’s cartoon club. There is a documentary with Harris and Saville being interviewed in the same room and Harris looked terrified of Saville. The fear was written all over his face.

Nearly everyone in the UK thought Savile was a creep, we just didn't realise how much of a creep he actually was. He got away with it for so long because he inveigled himself into the British establishment and became virtually untouchable. When a member of the Royal family writes to you for advice and a British Prime Minister is pushing for you to receive a knighthood, it's going to take a very brave individual to challenge you directly.

@euansmith3699

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, some of Savile's protection must have come from people in the media and at Great Ormond Street protecting their jobs; however, he also does appear to have received cover from members of the establishment with their secrets to protect.

As a British person... There were definitely rumours. It wasn't a fluke prediction, they knew.

@domb5513

2 жыл бұрын

"Knew"? More likely they'd just heard rumours.

@nanoflower1

2 жыл бұрын

@@domb5513 I think with the public it was only rumors but those rumors likely started with people in the industry that KNEW what Saville was doing.

@intruder313

2 жыл бұрын

@@domb5513 Nah it was well known by victims and witnesses galore but he protected. The doc is grim watching but show how it took the internet to get it out in the open.

@brucemanly

2 жыл бұрын

@@domb5513 they worked at the bbc they knew.

@georgielancaster1356

2 жыл бұрын

Joe, JOE, JOE!!! If you need a lift in mood, check out the (UK) Armstrong and Miller WW2 RAF pilots skits. Sheer joy.

My late father was a fairly well known music journalist and worked on Top Of The Pops (British TV show about pop music charts hosted by Jimmy Saville) and his job was to liaise with and book artists onto the show as he knew most people in the industry at the time. He ended up leaving the show because he couldn’t stand Saville, and said he was incredibly hard to manage and far too hands on and “familiar” with a lot of the guests and often they didn’t want to come back. Now we all know why….

Thanks for the M&W clips. Priceless.

A lot of people including Bill Oddie, had been speaking out about Jimmy, the truly horrible part is that the actors who tried to stop him were ignored.

@andysmith1996

2 жыл бұрын

When did Oddie speak out about him? He acknowledged _after_ Savile's death that it was common knowledge that young girls were prey to people like Savile but that he didn't know about kids in hospitals being abused. Do you have a source for him speaking out or trying to stop Savile while Savile was still alive?

@stuartprior6178

2 жыл бұрын

It was a couple of years ago that I was listening, I’ll see if I can find it again Andy regards Stu

@TheLambLive

2 жыл бұрын

They weren't ignored,, they were blackballed by the BBC. The were still doing it recently, see Tony Blackburn..... Jimmy Saville was being protected by other nonces in the BBC that we will probably never hear about. I'm certain there are many still on the BBC payroll who are there purely because they are keeping the truth held back... There's a reason Johnny Ball and Jimmy Tarbuck's kids are still earning millions from their cushy Beeb jobs.

@russellbonell

2 жыл бұрын

They weren't ignored, it was covered up.

@andysmith1996

2 жыл бұрын

@@russellbonell And your evidence for that is?

By far *the* best M&W sketch is the brain surgeon one. You can see the joke coming from a mile away, but the delivery is just too damn good

@Nickelodeon81

2 жыл бұрын

It's not exactly rocket science

They didn't predict it, it was an open secret. Not just an industry one, but openly discussed. In one of Irvin Welsh's books there is a character who is basically Savile too

The Goodies finally got released on DVD recently, the show was sadly never repeated on British TV, but often repeated in Australia for some reason. I have a few fond memories of it, but remember most when it was taken off the air. It’s the comedic connective tissue between The Monkees and The Young Ones. Many a day was spent wishing they would all meet in some crazy adventure. A few years ago Bill Oddie randomly turned up at my friends bar. He’s a wonderful and beloved man sadly with bipolar in real life. In The Goodies he was a mix of Mickey Dolenz, Davy Jones, Neil and Rik, to counter the More Conservative ’Peter Tork’ of Tim Brooke Taylor. Graham Garden was the Mike Nesmith of The Goodies. That’s the way it always felt anyway. I didn’t understand time as a kid. It was all happening at once. Tim Brook Taylor was part of a pre Python sketch show with John Cleese too. Anyway, I think I may be rambling a little by now. 🇬🇧

@themoviedealers

2 жыл бұрын

I always said The Monkees crossed with Monty Python. Like The Monkees they even had a career on the music charts.

@thiswonderfullandpenwithco1151

2 жыл бұрын

The goodies were and still are a classic show.

@jazzygeofferz

2 жыл бұрын

It's a great show, with some brilliant jokes, but some of it hasn't aged all that well.

@thiswonderfullandpenwithco1151

2 жыл бұрын

@@jazzygeofferz my fave as filmed closed to me in st just cornwall was bun fight at the ok tea rooms . Local jokes well done x

@rivertam7827

2 жыл бұрын

Grew up watching the Goodies in the 80s in Australia 🇦🇺 I can't remember any of it now, but I swear it was still running on repeat into the 90s.

Many BBC people knew about Saville . The producer of “Children in Need”, an annual charity drive on TV made sure Saville never got anywhere near it.

@ladiorange

2 жыл бұрын

But then why could they not have mentioned this in the Netflix show? It's like there is some missing 3rd episode...

@nikreece6295

4 сағат бұрын

the chairman of children in need revealed in fact after savile's exposure, that he actually had banned savile from children in need back in 1999, because of savile's reputation and the rumours about his liking for young girls

Oh, btw: Mitchell and Webb are brilliant. The 'Are We The Bad Guys?' sketch is one of the greatest of all time... Excellent taste, my man...😬

@gerardhermus8297

2 жыл бұрын

That one is good indeed. My favourite is the homeopathic hospital. Where the patient was hit by a car, then the "medics" proceed to give instructions to takes parts of the car, dilute it and administer it as the homeopathic treatment for the dying patient. Of course the patient dies. Takes too long to fully describe, but that skit is the perfect example of using humor to expose some ridiculous notions.

@fydstar

2 жыл бұрын

Ooh both fantastic I also love the “it’s not rocket science” sketch.

@CaptApril123

2 жыл бұрын

"Why are we wearing skulls on our hats? I mean actual skulls!"

@sgwh2002

2 жыл бұрын

@@gerardhermus8297 Then they go to the pub and have a homeopathic larger.

@NIGonzo

2 жыл бұрын

@@gerardhermus8297 Homeopathic A&E. Superb. Here ya go: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eoF7q8SId9ieoZM.html

Trainspotting author Irvine Welsh included a short story in the collection The Acid House (1994) that's basically about Jimmy Saville interfering with corpses in a morgue. Stewart lee and Richard herring included a gag along similar lines in one of their live BBC tv shows in the 90's. Jimmy Saville may have been a 'beloved family entertainer' in the 1970's/early 80's but long before the millennium he had become a punchline for any joke about someone who gave you the creeps, at least amongst everybody i met. Allegations may not have been formally made by those he had abused, but you can't stop the stories getting out, and spreading on an 'urban myth' level...

@weavehole

2 жыл бұрын

Nice. That saved me typing all of that.

@andreakoroknai1071

Жыл бұрын

oh man, I've been a long time Welsh fan but I did not get that reference, I read the book waaay before I knew who Savile was

I have love That Mitchell and Webb Look for years. So many favorite sketches from the Scooby Doo dinner party discussion to “are we the baddies” of WWII. And who could forget the boy with a butt for a face?!!

He was in no way a beloved Mr Rodgers type. Nobody, even fans thought of him that way. Everybody thought he was odd, from his looks to his actions. Most thought he was creepy and a pervert, and couldn't understand why he was on tv. Others suspected and knew more as there were so, so many "rumours". The fact that he was never arrested is a travesty. He was an absolute monster!

@timsearle5837

2 жыл бұрын

You're wrong mate. He was widely loved. He was the presenter at my school's speech day once. It might have been true that people who met him thought he was odd, I certainly did, but he was a public protected figure, a part of the horrible culture that was going on at the Beeb at the time. Your average joe thought he was a good man.

@eldictator1

2 жыл бұрын

A third of the country were watching or listening to him, to say everyone thought he was weird is an overstatement, he was a British eccentric and at his peak during the 70s, a time of glam rock

@phily8093

2 жыл бұрын

​@@timsearle5837 He had a "fanbase" I'm sure, but I think widely loved is a huge overstatement. I certainly didn't like him, and the vast majority I'm sure might have watched him because he was weird, or mostly because there was nothing else on. ... but not because he was a loveable figure. He wasn't. He was a creep. There is no data to back it up, so you can't argue either way. He got away with terrible things and was protected. He shouldn't have been, and his was repulsive, on and off screen.

@craigusselman546

2 жыл бұрын

He also was a very odd wrestler who annoyed his opponents into rages where they actually kicked his ass for real .

@batintheattic7293

2 жыл бұрын

He just gave me an icky feeling. Saying that, I really, really wanted to go on Jim'll Fix It - but my instincts, about Savile, were excellent for one so young!

Their "Captain Todger" character also had serious Saville vibes. The character is 100% based on him. He's a creepy super hero that everyone has to put up with.

I grew up in near Stoke Mandeville hospital, Buckinghamshire, where Savill had 'special accomodation' for whenever he stayed there whilst filming. I also, now, live in Kings Lynn, Norfolk. I'm a big fan and very glad to hear you cover a topic so close to me geographically!:D great work man, keep it up!

I haven’t actually seen the sketch show, but I will freely admit to becoming addicted to British “panel shows” (*all* of them) over the course of the pandemic. David Mitchell is a fixture of these programs and I think he’s genius and always entertaining, definitely one of my favorites (along with the late great Sean Locke and Bob Mortimer)

@AlexNinoLDN

2 жыл бұрын

He has two brilliant books out as well, very funny and ranty. Can get them on audible if you're not a book kinda guy

@brianlopez8855

2 жыл бұрын

er Bob is very much alive and well. Sean RIP

@OneBentMonkey

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianlopez8855 My fault…I should have written that sentence differently to avoid confusion. Yes, Bob Mortimer is very much alive

@HulaHula667

Жыл бұрын

It’s his wife who I’m a fan of most of all, and have been since I was given her book “Once More, with Feeling: How We Tried to Make the Greatest Porn Film Ever” by a Dutch friend as a gag birthday present where she along with Charlie Skelton did just what they said on the tin 😂

One of the most sick things about the Jimmy Saville thing is that people knew back when he was alive too, but the public at large were unaware. There were investigations that sought to bring everything to light, but he was protected by his friends in high places, such as the BBC. It wasn't until his death when there was nothing left to protect when it all came out. And that started the whole Operation Yewtree thing where other child predators were brought to light. I was still an innocent little 14 year old though when Saville died though so this is how I remember it from memory and various YT documentaries, like the one from Omegon about a year ago. I always called him the English Bill Cosby, but honestly, Bill Cosby was rather tame compared to Jimmy Saville, and I'm amazed most of even America is only finding out about him now. I guess cause the internet is so American-centric, but still. Was big. Bill Oddie on the other hand...

@Reth_Hard

2 жыл бұрын

Come on! If that many people knew this, at least some people would've call the police, right? And the police would've done something to stop this! Do you think everybody around Jimmy Savile were protecting him? And what about the parents? Do you also think they were telling their kids they're just little liars and to stop talking about the abuses? Yeah, right... Like if most people were monstrous! lol

@ZanzatheDivine

2 жыл бұрын

@@Reth_Hard You underestimate just how incompetent and easy to bribe the metropolitan police are lmao

@ronray3293

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, is Bill Oddie still at large after all this time!? 😆

@carlodave9

2 жыл бұрын

Johnny Rotten outed Saville as much as legally possible in an interview in 1978. Rotten was ignored because he was one of those EVIL punk rockers. How was that video missed in here and in the documentary?

@neilwilson5785

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't this a BBC show trying to out him?

I've worked for the BBC and I've even appeared on an episode of Peep Show and as talented as Mitchell & Webb are they didn't predict anything, it was common knowledge in the industry but Mr Savile had some really powerful friends so he was untouchable.

@brucemanly

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't that mean you worked for channel 4 as well?

@weedfreer

2 жыл бұрын

@@brucemanly channel 4, although possessing a core of staff usually farm out production to production companies who aren't actually channel 4 and who, indeed, do work for multiple channels. To say someone worked for Channel 4 as they worked on a production for it is far too much an assumption to make...ok, they were the OPs paymaster, granted, but that's about as far as it could be said based on their comments

@brucemanly

2 жыл бұрын

@@weedfreer sure but I don't remember peep show and Mitchell and Webb look sharing a production company. I may be wrong.

@weedfreer

2 жыл бұрын

@@brucemanly no, they probably didn't...but, that does not mean to say that the OP worked 'for' channel 4. They worked upon a production payed for by Channel 4 is the best that could be said

@brucemanly

2 жыл бұрын

@@weedfreer you're kind obsessing over an irrelevant detail, my point was always: it's weird they worked for two different production companies making programs for two different channels with the same stars.

"Well, there's no harm in running it through the computer" the Kill the poor skit sends me

I love That Mitchell & Webb Look! I am thrilled you appreciate them too. This was some of the best sketch comedy ever created! I re watch yearly & quote "That's a baaaad missss." often.

@mrstrashpanda

2 жыл бұрын

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar and the Sherlock Holmes sketches are my fave btw!

An interesting point about the sketch with the creepy director is that it is likely loosely based on Webb's experiences on the 2006 movie Confetti. Robert Webb and Olivia Coleman played a nudist couple on condition that they would be blurred out. They didn't find out until the premier that they were fully exposed.

@franzfanz

2 жыл бұрын

That's interesting. I've seen the interview that both David and Robert did with Graham Norton where he talks about that. I thought it was a funny story but that makes it sound a lot darker.

@herbiehopkins

2 жыл бұрын

I've never heard about that, I thought it was a reference to Michael Winner, he was a right creep too!

It was an open secret. My mum wanted to go to Top of the Pops when he presented it and she got a big no from my grandma who called him a "Dirty pervert" Not much got past that women

@sarahharris1990

2 жыл бұрын

looking at the footage he came accross as very stranger danger

@oligould8575

2 жыл бұрын

you should never ignore a woman's intuition :) if they have a bad feeling about someone, stay as far away from that person as you can... I've found dogs to be a good judge of character too... and if you can get a cat to come to you on the street, you've probably got a heart of gold haha

@Hiforest

2 жыл бұрын

I got the same response from my Mum for the same reason lol. Now I watch clips of savile I've no idea why I didn't see it, thankfully my Mum did!

@Hiforest

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarahharris1990 He helped write a book about stranger danger, I kid you not.

I remember seeing him on TV as a child and finding him terrifying, despite not being aware of this open secret, his dead eyes just set red alarm bells off in my head, so severe I could still remember it when it all started to come out. It was an open secret, the sex pistols were the first to discuss it, while it was happening on air, and were banned from the BBC as a result.

@pablohanc

Жыл бұрын

They didn't get banned from the BBC over that interview. The interview just never aired. Johnny rotten was a regular on BBC, appeared on its pop quiz programme and his new band PIL appeared several times on top of the pops and even appeared on the old grey whistle test.

haven't checked into TMI in a while good to see you again

One of the reasons Savile got away with it for so long was that he would sue anyone who would make the accusations, and being beloved by the nation (and by extension powerful) few would dare go up against in the courts. Also, the sketch with the creepy director bears an uncomfortably close resemblance to what actually happened to Robert Webb and Olivia Colman during the 2006 film Confetti. (from the Wikipedia entry) Both played a nudist couple in the film, and felt they had been misinformed about the amount of nudity involved in the film. Webb claimed on The Graham Norton Show, that the director had informed him that his genitals would all be pixelated in the final film and was not aware until the screening that this was not the case.

@ellerosse5471

2 жыл бұрын

And he supplied the rent boy to Ted Heath the then PM, the boy died on Heath's yacht... he had so much on them all

@GioMarron

2 жыл бұрын

There are a million ‘one reason he got away with it’ with Savile. Nobody really likes to hear these things but, as a master criminal, he was incredibly clever - He was, as you say, litigious which scared a lot of people off in the days before ‘no win, no fee’ - He targeted ‘weaker’ groups of people - He made sure his public persona was impeccable - He raised millions for charity, making him ‘untouchable’ in the public eye - He was an ex-wrestler: people say he was, in his younger days, incredibly intimidating - He had great friends in Royalty, particularly Charles (though one wonders now if he was friends with Andrew). His friendship to the Royals was such that he even wrote them an ‘introductory pack’ on how to deal with the public and how they should react during times of tragedy. - He had great friends in politics, including then PM Margaret Thatcher who pushed hard for him to be honoured as a ‘sir’ - He had great friends in the police top brass, whom he held meetings with weekly or monthly, who ignored or quashed a significant number of complaints - He could do no wrong in the eyes of the BBC. His programs were responsible for views of up to 15m per week which is a significant number when you consider that, between 3 countries that make up the U.K., there was a population of around 50m people You could drive yourself insane knowing that just one person in any of these scenarios could’ve brought down his house of cards

@simonh6371

2 жыл бұрын

He had friends in the police too. A few years ago, just before he died, 3 girls from a school where he'd visited many times in the 70s/80s all went to the police and gave statements. None went to court as they thought they'd be alone there, the police led them to believe this despite all 3 wanting to go to court. Also he used to meet up regularly with buddies from W Yorks police.

I'm in the UK and it's 'common knowledge' that many people at the BBC were very aware about rumours of him. I watched a comedy program in 90s where the comedians did the introduction dressed as saville and flat out stated what he was - people laughed. Clearly those two had heard and were very angry - soon after? that show was cancelled.

@thepurpleapple

2 жыл бұрын

Stewart Lee and Richard Herring?

@JohnnyWednesday

2 жыл бұрын

@@thepurpleapple - For I am the lord of the dance Settee!

@thepurpleapple

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyWednesday Now drink your weak lemon drink!

@neilwilson5785

2 жыл бұрын

There was a group of politicains and others who were into this stuff. Saville was as well, but was not part of the establishment. They waited for him to die and said that it's all over now, nothing to see here.

@ledzep331

2 жыл бұрын

Jimmy Savile let himself go.

So psyched that I found your second channel!

I'm from the UK and I lived in Texas for the last 20 years, Joe- Hats of to mate for picking up on this story.

Most people thought Jimmy Savile was a weirdo. There's a great episode of Louis Theroux's show where he spent alot of time with Savile....you can't watch it without coming to the conclusion that old Jim wasn't quite right!

@tortysoft

2 жыл бұрын

I think it was in that show that he said something like 'I'm so loved that I could do anything I want to anyone and nothing would be done about it' - actually admitting it - but not quite.

@kellis6645

2 жыл бұрын

After it all came out Theroux did another episode and talked about how deceived and betrayed he felt by Jimmy. He felt guilty that he let himself be so charmed by Jimmy and talked about how weird it was and how his comments showed so much in retrospect.

@terryterryd

2 жыл бұрын

"Water... A fresh pair every day"

There are three sketches I really love.... The Vectron Sketch were they had formed an entire spacefaring religious sect a week after they got blitzed in a pub. The "Are we the baddies" sketch with German officers on a battlefield talking about why their uniforms had skulls on them. And the Vet sketch were they basically prepared and seasoned animals "I'm the head che.." "Uh... Surgeon here." With respect to Savile, he was beloved in the UK he rubbed shoulders with royalty, and was protected from high on up in the BBC and by others around him. I never understood why more people weren't creeped out by him because everytime I saw him on TV (which was a lot in the UK at the time) he set of alarm bells in my head I really thought that this guy was a monster though I was a young child at the time. It was like he told everyone exactly who he was in every show he featured in and people treated it like it was a joke. They are not laughing anymore. It reminds me of a famous quote made by Maya Angelou "When someone tells you who they are, believe them." If only they did....

@Valisk

2 жыл бұрын

Hugh the alcoholic in the corner shop is my absolute favourite. So many brilliant sketches to choose from. Homeopathic A&E, Cheesoid, Are we the baddies?, THE EVENT... just too many to choose from :) And Savile, christ, I always thought he was a creepy bastard, even as a kid growing up in the seventies.

A long time Mitchell & Webb fan. The TV series came after a BBC Radio series "The Sound of Mitchell & Webb" which is equally brilliant (containing a masterful scene with Batman downsizing and moving into a new apartment). My favourite Look of M&W scene is "Admiral Donitz getting the promotion and just rally wanting some to "heil me". Thanks as always for the stellar quality content.

Dang Joe. I find myself coming back to your channels every time I'm bored and have free time. Couldn't sleep just now and first thing I lookup is to see if you have a new video out. The more you know.

I met Bill Oddie once - Mike Gibbs, an arranger I used to work with, transcribed his songs (Bill was musically illiterate) and he came round once while I was there working at Mike's to deliver his latest idea on a cassette tape. Yes, it was that long ago! Nice bloke.

Joe, for more social context on Mitchell and Webb's joke about Jimmy Savile, you should watch Louis Theroux's "When Louis met Jimmy" from 2000. This is not to be confused with his later documentary, simply entitled "Savile" which was made after the awful truth came out. Even in the earlier film it became apparent that Jimmy Savile was, in different ways, a creep. As for the comparison to Mister Rogers, I'd have to say that it would be more apt with Rolf Harris. We thought that man was an angel. When Operation Yewtree revealed the truth about him it felt like he'd personally betrayed us all.

@michaelbarbarelli3764

2 жыл бұрын

You're right, Harry. I just made a similar comment before I found yours. Also, I suspect that Gary Glitter (an old associate of Saville) being arrested in 1999 and 2006 also led to the word being spread.

@notascoobyreally7520

2 жыл бұрын

Johnny Rotten talking to Piers Morgan - he was silenced for bringing it up back in the day…

@AmyDaisy69

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Savile was an obvious creep, I never liked him, and it was no surprise when all that came out. He certainly earned the "vile" part of his name. But Rolf Harris was a huge shock, I remember watching his Cartoon Club while eating tea after school. So many good memories ruined.

@SolarGranulation

2 жыл бұрын

@@AmyDaisy69 I can't help but smile when I think of Cartoon Club, but a moment later I remember what we found out and the memory turns sour once more. So much joy and inspiration, turned to ash.

@theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend in addition to the WLM episode, a recent short docu film by a channel on here called "Hell on Earth", on the topic of jimmy savile that is pretty shocking, came out recently, highly recommend it!

During the pandemic, the Quiz Broadcast sketches seemed particularly prescient "REMAIN INDOORS"

Never new you were a Mitchell and web fan....you've just become even more awesome

ah, you watch Mitchell and Wrbb? thats Numberwang

Oh believe me, there were definitely stories about him, and Mitchell & Webb would have moved in the circles to have heard them. (I'm a Brit who watched Jim'll Fix It.)

As a child from the town he settled and was buried in (in cement no less, they had to dig him back out of that)... we (the local kids) knew there was something fundamentally wrong with Saville. But being kids we were told to knock it off and he was fine gentleman... Such is the way of adulthood.

John Lydon, PIL, mentioned shady dealings back in 1976. It's on KZread too. Thanks for an interesting one Joe. Cheers

It was an "open secret" from the early 70s that Saville was handsy with underage teenage girls, and *lots* of jokes were made about it (even the Goodies!) What wasn't so well known was that it wasn't just pinching bottoms or hugging too close, too long, it was rape, and it wasn't just girls of 12-16, it was boys as well, some as young as 8, and it was also patients at a hospital specialising in round-the-clock care for long term patients. By the late 80s, it was common knowledge to lots of people, who were all in the same predicament - they didn't have concrete evidence, so it would be he-said-she-said, and he was a very wealthy, very well connected celebrity who could lawyer up for years, and those who were trying to speak out against him would lose their job, their careers, and potentially any credibility they had in their professional industries.

@Taz6688

2 жыл бұрын

He was rumbled very early on, but had loads of high level contacts, he was interviewed by the police but managed to brush it off, he had lots of MP's as friends, which helped quash and further actions.

One of my favourite sketches lately has been the one that's like a game show that takes place in a time after "The Event", "STAY INDOORS" "Todays prize is Fire Wood" Number Wang was another classic for me.

@JohnnyWednesday

2 жыл бұрын

Don't think about The Event!

@staceyn2541

2 жыл бұрын

Don't mention the Event!

@jillianb1744

2 жыл бұрын

So little remains….

@pseudotasuki

2 жыл бұрын

"That's right. We don't know. They all just… died."

@dedwardskbd

2 жыл бұрын

8-4. That's Numerwang!

So many great M+W sketches to choose from, but "Bronze Orientation" seems to tie in nicely with what this channel is about (new tech etc.) Hail Vectron!

My favorite sketch from Mitch and Webb had to be the "alcoholic in the corner store" segment. It really highlights the best of British humor with the mix of tragedy/self deprecation and "I feel bad for laughing at this" kind of comedy.

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep

Жыл бұрын

I'm partial to the Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

I think the majority of kids in the UK in the 80s wrote to Jim'll Fix It. I certainly did, it was one of the biggest family shows on TV. A lot of people are saying here that it was an open secret but I think that's an exaggeration. Certainly some people must have known, but most people thought he was weird/creepy/eccentric. He had an extraordinary smokescreen. People outside the UK don't realise just how influential he was. I mean, he fixed it for one girl (I think) to interview Gorbachev while he was leader of the USSR. He was constantly running marathons, raising millions for charities - with extremely dark motivation. The Louis Theroux documentary is great watching and it's well worth listening to interviews with Louis about his experience with Savile. More cheerfully, M&W's sketch about Caesar only using the third person is pure gold.

@SineN0mine3

2 жыл бұрын

it was an open secret in so far as that the people who knew weren't keeping it secret. People tried to bring attention to it, but they were largely ignored or covered up. Its definitely not a criticism of the people who were fans of his who didn't know. Instead it points to the systematic problems with crimes of this nature, particularly involving the rich and powerful. If it was well known by the general public, he wouldn't have gotten away with it for so long, nor had so much success as an entertainer. At least that's what you'd hope. Because he was so famous it was very easy for the accusations to be dismissed as being made in bad faith, so they were rarely discussed directly, instead they'd come out at weird times like in comedy sketches or interviews with other performers who weren't particularly close to him. There's a kind of weird cognitive dissonance that occurs where we think if something so awful was happening people would be unable to ignore it, so we assume that the thing is exaggerated or made up, because otherwise we'd have dealt with it. Celebrities have abused that paradox knowingly and unknowingly for ages, usually for less disturbing crimes.

@edwesterdale-music

2 жыл бұрын

@@SineN0mine3 I agree with everything you say and would only add that he took celebrity to the next level by becoming a kind of zany Mother Theresa. A fundraising DJ with his own room and key at the most secure psychiatric hospital in the UK. You couldn't make it up. Continuiing the hospital theme: Homeopathic A&E is another classic M&W sketch. That's strong stuff!

@JessicaMiller-pc4dj

2 жыл бұрын

No, most kids did not write to Jim'll fix it 😔. It's like saying most people would love to be famous . I and lots of children would be horrified by the idea of appearing on TV - with or without Jimmy Saville.

@edwesterdale-music

2 жыл бұрын

For me it was not about wanting to be famous but to have a seemingly impossible wish come true. In the documentary, the show's producer said they were receiving 20,000 letters per week. That would be around 1 million letters per year and the show ran for about 20 years. I expect the numbers declined over the years but we're still talking about perhaps 10 million letters in a country with a total population of about 55 million (at that time). You're right. Strictly speaking, it's not a majority but it's not that far off. And, of course, I respect everyone's right not to want to appear on TV and totally understand that wish, too.

@JessicaMiller-pc4dj

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwesterdale-music Wow, I had no idea. I hated this show and all of my friends did too, so naturally we would never have sat down to write a letter. I barely remember writing to santa 🤭.

As a cild, I knew that Saville was a creep, there was something about him that just raised my hackles. Now as an adult I know that I detected a falsehood in his demeanour. He was pretending to be something he wasn't. I have never understood why my compatriots thought he was brilliant, to me he was a creep and to be avoided at all cost. It was a sad reflection on the British (not English Joe) establishment that despite all the glaring evidence, he was never prosecuted until his death.

@Maerahn

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed - even as a little kid he gave me those 'creepy uncle' vibes.

@daistoke1314

2 жыл бұрын

In the 60's in my teens we all watched Top of the Pops, and we all thought JS was not a nice man, F***ing creep, weirdo, Creep uncle, were the names we used. We thought that he only got on TV so we would recognise a pe*o when we met one.

@vickywitton1008

2 жыл бұрын

Yes he always have me creepy vibes too!

Corner Shop will forever be my favorite! The deadpan between the two is chef’s kiss good

The Goodies New Years Eve special is one of the funniest things in Television history.

There are lots of little clips from during Savile's lifetime which suggest people knew something about it then. Some were just because he was famous and eccentric, or was doing advertising (British Rail Cafe sketch), others were clearly based on some specific rumours (John Lydon). There are several more. (Skinner & Baddiel, Lee & Herring, and numerous quips Savile himself made). Its difficult to explain to people who weren't living in the UK in the 70s/80s/90s how big a deal this is.

@andysmith1996

2 жыл бұрын

Savile wrote in his 1970s memoirs about how the police came to his club in the 1960s and said they were looking for a girl who'd run away from home. He told them that, if she came into his club, he'd bring her into the police station - but only in the morning. He said that would be his reward for finding her. She did come into his club and he did bring her to the police the next day. He said a woman officer wanted something done about him but she was dissuaded because "it was well known that were I to go I would probably take half the station with me". Whether or not it's a true story, the fact that he openly told that story in his published memoirs shows how different, sexist, and misogynistic the times were. People just thought "what a naughty lad". He also agreed to do a publicity appearance at Otley in the 1960s, provided he was allowed to sleep the night on the Chevin in a tent and provided they supply "A guard of honour of six young ladies - in another tent of course - to keep me safe". "No tents, no girls, no me.”

He can be seen on live tv grouping young girls and he had a special agreement with a hospital so he could get access to vulnerable children. People knew what was going on for years and did nothing about it.

@oneoflokis

2 жыл бұрын

Including nurses! 😏

@vickywitton1008

2 жыл бұрын

Yes he had a flat next to the hospital so he could come and go at will ! He especially liked the paraplegic ward apparently

@oneoflokis

2 жыл бұрын

@@vickywitton1008 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢👎

@MartinWillett

2 жыл бұрын

On the most recent documentary you see him groping a young girl and the cameraman zooms in closer so as to avoid showing the indecent assault or the girl's reaction to it. They knew he was a wrong 'un.

Fun fact, the sketch at 4:27 was actually a bit of meta commentary regarding a film that Robert had starred in the year before. In it he played a nudist and was required to be naked throughout, but was told that his genitals would be censored. It wasn’t until he sat down and actually watched the film at the premiere that he realised they’d decided not to.

You forgot to mention that "The Quiz Broadcast" sketches foreshadowed the events of the last couple of years: 'Remain indoors."

"Not exactly brain surgery" That period between when you realize what the punchline is going to be and it finally landing is a fantastic example of how important timing is for humor.

@Slavir_Nabru

2 жыл бұрын

That is by far my favourite sketch (even though I find the premise of rocket science being more difficult than brain surgery rather unintuitive). The anticipation between her mentioning the space centre and him saying the inevitable line gets me every time.

@michaelfink64

2 жыл бұрын

His patronising response to the social worker is a classic.

@ltlbuddha

2 жыл бұрын

Love that sketch

@ltlbuddha

2 жыл бұрын

@@Slavir_Nabru Well, it is kind of true. At least in that one needs to prove one's worth beyond one's education to become a rocket scientist, but brain surgeons become brain surgeons more by virtue OF their education. And a recent study indicates that neither are significantly more intelligent than the general population. There are, of course, other factors involved in their success.

@balthazarasquith

2 жыл бұрын

The brain surgery sketch was Armstrong and Miller wasn't it?

A few people normally comedians had been dropping hints about Jimmy Savile for a couple of years. One a really remember was Johnny Rotten from the band The sex pistols outed Savile in an interview in 1978 it got Johnny banned from the BBC. It was known what Savile was doing but people were covering for him because they didnt think it was as bad as it was. He abused disabled and mentally disabled people to it was so gross. Savile worked alot for the BBC in the UK on TV and the Radio thats why he was called a DJ.

@carlodave9

2 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly the lousy documentary didn't even include that interview. Imagine if you were Jimmy Saville looking at Johnny Rotten insinuating right at the camera. It was like he was talking right to Saville. YIKES!!! Gotta shut that EVIL punk rocker up BBC!

@travcollier

2 жыл бұрын

This interview: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hJ6tmtGFhrLcmZc.html

@RustyWalker

2 жыл бұрын

@@stoney332 It was worse because he targeted charities that were supposed to help children to get him public access to more victims.

@BeerElf66

2 жыл бұрын

He was called a DJ because he worked as a DJ in nightclubs, then went on to own nightclubs around the Leeds area. Then he moved to playing music on BBC radio, then to present on TV. I grew up in the 1970s, and even though times were different, he still gave us the creeps.

@aceg81

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus! So some people knew he was doing shady stuff for 30 years before he died? How effed up that Rotten got banned for trying to shine a light on this evil. I hope like hell that the Beeb issued an apology since.

It's hard to express just how prolific, twisted and extremely well connected Saville was. He hung out with royalty and prime minister's and was even put in charge of a huge mental health facility full of offenders. The BBC and others basically covered up his crimes for years.

@adolfdassler9457

2 жыл бұрын

He's an amateur if you compare him to what the royals get up to.

Years ago, in the 1980s, there was a DJ on Radio Aire, in Leeds, called James Whale. One night he had Savile on the show - Savile lived in Leeds - Whale’s show was largely loud mouthed obnoxious presenter + phone in. A guy called in, a very well-spoken guy, and very calmly and precisely accused Savile of child rape and necrophilia, and suggested that Savile’s supposedly generous and selfless volunteering at hospitals was all about access to children and to corpses. James Whale of course shut the caller down and Savile, presumably well rehearsed and prepared for this eventuality, calmly responded with his usual ‘I’m a public figure in the rock n roll show is world so I’m surrounded by young people, and of course people would love to bring me down’ etc blah blah. So people knew about it. But Savile was untouchable.

I lived in the U.K. for about 6 years divided between childhood (where Jimmy Savile was the DJ on Top of the Pops) and university (when Savile would crop up on various shows). By the mid-1980s, the rumors were out there. By the late 1990s, when I went over too visit friends and family, the whispering was more general about him with a "but if it were true, surely the Met would have arrested him" undercurrent. Savile's crime was the least shocking surprise ever.

I knew about Savile long before this sketch, and I assumed that everyone else did.But they did not, and I was subject to a lot of ire if I said anything to even imply that he was in any way disreputable. When he died, I was relieved that finally the truth came out. He held the media to ransom, is how he got away with it for so long. He was bankrolling various charities and the vulnerable people for whom these charities existed were his prey. If anyone spilled the beans, the money would dry up and that would be their fault, not his. But I could never understand his appeal at any level. He had no discernible ability. You can pick any episode of Jim'll Fix It and it will be uncomfortable viewing, not because of what we now know about Savile, but because he comes across as a talentless weirdo.

@davidjames579

2 жыл бұрын

Especially when we learned he had no editorial input into Jim'll Fix It. He literally only turned up to read the autocue. And molest the guests.

I love ur videos!

"I know John, I do know" "I can't get the fog to clear..."

there was an unaired episode of 'Have i Got News for You', where Saville was one of the guests. the guy he was on the same team as him really layed into him with things like "is it true your a pedo?" and such, because allegations were pretty much public by then, and Paul Merton did not like him or want to be on the same team as him. so for public decency he sabotaged that episode to the point it was unariable. there is a Transcript of it kicking about somewhere.

Like everyone else says, this was an open secret within entertainment. I was working with a comedian who suddenly one night just told me to keep away from and keep kids away from Savile. We weren’t even discussing it, people were dishing out warnings unprovoked. This was 2003. The Netflix show is good, but again, the Louis Theroux show really shows just how different the guy was and was in many ways a very sinister piece of tv.

@davidjames579

2 жыл бұрын

There's the bit in Theroux's show where he finds his private phone number on a piece of paper in Saville's house. Saville revels in this, as he says he likes to know all about people. Makes you wonder how he got the number.

I live in the UK, in Norfolk in fact, wow so proud my homeland has made it on your show which I'm a huge follower, even if it's for less savoury reasons. I would recommend you watch an episode of have I got news for you which had jimmy Saville on its quite an eye opener.

Agree about Mitchell and Webb being all-time greats. Hard to pick ONE favorite really, that's like asking what your favorite Key and Peele sketch is. I feel like even off the top of my head I can think of a dozen sketches that make me giggle. The conspiracy series, the Bond villain ones, the "behind the scenes" ones, the green clarinet, Angel Summoner and BMX Kid...

Amazing how Jimmy was an open secret in UK TV circles.. Lots of creepy in jokes in the 1980's... Lusting after young teenagers was frighteningly normal in the eighties!.. Angel Summoner and The BMX Bandit are my favourite M&W characters... :) Goodies wasn't sketch comedy, it was a story per episode, but a little random... Quite fun in its day..

@murunbuchstanzangur

2 жыл бұрын

@David Williamson in the 70s and 80s people make jokes about lusting after schoolgirls. These days people tend not to make that sort of joke. Also, it was the adventures of sir digby chicken-caesar for me.

@I_Don_t_want_a_handle

2 жыл бұрын

@@murunbuchstanzangur Yup. St Trinian's six formers for example. Barely legal yet heavily sexualized in an otherwise innocent comedy.

@darnstewart

2 жыл бұрын

@David Williamson You mean like the police, local council and the government in the likes of Rotherham and other places?

A childhood friend of mines father was a very successful children's TV producer, he took a 1st class train carriage back from London to the North where his production company was based. On one occasion he happened to share the compartment with Jimmy Saville, after that he would never let his children watch Saville shows......

@tortysoft

2 жыл бұрын

I accidentally met him at the BBC. I understand fully.

One of my favourite Mitchell and Webb sketches, and there are many, is the 3rd person Caesar sketch, which keeps on getting funnier and funnier as you watch. Every time I watch it, I get into eye-watering giggles. Then there is Watch the Football, oh how true that is! I am not a soccer fan. haha! The Discoverer sketch..."Who is the captain?" "You are sir" It is a great idea to keep rewatching them because you forget some of them (well, I do) and can then enjoy them all over again.

Best ever Mitchell & Webb sketch, by far, is the Brain Surgeon and the Rocket Scientist at a party.

@johnmoruzzi7236

2 жыл бұрын

And Scooby-Doo…

It was common knowledge and Louis Theroux had asked him about allegations a decade before he died. He was well connected politically so police and prosecutors knew that a failure to convict him would damage their careers. Most only knew of his crimes indirectly and police have had some questionable assumptions in the past about using evidence from certain types of victims.

There was even a joke on 30 Rock where Tracey Morgan called out Bill Cosby

Completely anecdotal - I was working in an call centre about 12- 13 years ago and met a colleague. We where talking about DJ'ing, and I brought up Saville as apparently saville was a pioneer. The guy cut me off straight away to tell me how creepy saville is/was. He was performing at a local club years prior to our conversation, and saville came in one night. Was the slimest thing this guy had seen. Was apparently walking around harassing all the young women, groping them, sleazing his way around. The guy found it really unsettling and stuck in his mind what a creep saville was. But yes it appears many high up or close to him, where aware of the rumours.

"The Surprising Adventures of Sir Digby Chicken Caesar" sketches are quite simply sublime.

I’ve not seen your channel before - it popped up in my timeline this morning, no doubt the KZread algorithm at work 😉. On your references to Jimmy Savile, I’m pretty sure there was knowledge of his unsavoury activities long before the scandal became publicly known so it’s my belief that Mitchell & Webb sketch from 2008 was their way of saying everything and yet saying nothing by flashing his image onscreen whilst talking about another person entirely - remember the libel laws in the UK are pretty strict. Another more personal comment - I was a teenager in the 1960s (yes, I’m almost 70 now 😳🤣) when Savile first appeared regularly on TV here in the UK, presenting a weekly pop-chart show on BBC called ‘Top of the Pops’, a few years later he presented “Jim’ll Fix it”, the show you referred to. From the very first time I ever saw him on TotP he made me very uncomfortable, ‘creeped me out’ if you like - in those days I didn’t really know why, but by the 90s & early 2000s I had certainly heard rumours (& I have nothing to do with the entertainment industry, I was an international banker for all my career) - I’m afraid there are all kinds of cover-ups in the make-believe entertainment industry, because some of the worst offenders are very financially successful & powerful and important to the producers and studios, and they bring in ad revenue) that no one junior in the industry will cross for fear of being ruined by one of the ‘stars’. Apart from Savile and Cosby, the ones you mentioned, there are also people like OJ Simpson, Harvey Weinstein, Roman Polanski, Kevin Spacey etc etc. and these are only the widely-known ones, there are others but as I said earlier the laws of libel are a barrier. Anyway, I enjoyed your video.

As others said, pretty much everyone thought he was a nonce but nobody had any proof and he would sue anyone who openly made an accusation. Britain has very strict penalties for liable and defamation. There are lots of examples of very uncomfortable situations where people confronted him without openly saying it. A really sick situation. I wasn't surprised in the slightest in fact i was surprised that anyone was surprised. I think it's a great stain on our country that he was not brought to justice while he was still alive

@Thurgosh_OG

2 жыл бұрын

The BBC also protected Saville and pushed the news to other topics.

God I love Mitchell and Webb lol glad to see an American giving it high praise! They are pure comedy gold! :D its been a while since I watched but I seem to remember a post-apocolyptic numberwang? maybe im getting some things mixed up! Funny enough my dad is from Kings Lynn, cool to hear you mention it lol :) Great vid, i need to go binge watch TMAWL now lol :)

My favorite Mitchell & Webb sketch has to be "Extreme Negative Feedback."

I am glad to hear Mitchell and Webb have made a mark across the pond. My personal top sketches from the series are the eccentric millionaires trying to give away the 'massive yachts', the moon landing conspiracy, and Football, football, football.

@roberthpilesund384

2 жыл бұрын

For me it was the " shopping sketch " where they deconstructed every reality show ever in less than five minutes, and " the event " game show, that really nailed my taste in dark humour .

@aminekostone1411

2 жыл бұрын

And the Petril or Cheese robot!! "Petriilll, cheeeese"!

The "rumors were flying around." But they were also predicting a scandal with Robert Webb and Olivia Coleman, who actually did act in a production where they played a couple of nudists, and were promised the nudity would be blocked out, then it wasn't. (And I highly recommend "The Goodies".) As always thank you so very much for the video.

@mcfcguvnors

2 жыл бұрын

goodies were ace :)

Are we the baddies? explorers naming places and the car boot sketch with the holy grail and gate to Narnia for sale are my favourites.

The "Explorers" sketches in Series 2 Episode 4 cracks me up every time

I am not surprised that someone would die laughing at "The Goodies" I grew up watching them and recently rewatched it with my kids, they also were in stitches the whole time.

@davidhynd4435

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Some of the period references escaped them, but my kids loved it. They were very funny men who did all their own stunts. And got hurt doing them, apparently. Absolutely loved The Goodies.

@biggusdickkus2956

2 жыл бұрын

All three Goodies were involved in radio shows with John Cleese in a show called I'm sorry I'll read that again. It was hugely popular and preceded the Goodies.

My favourite That Mitchell and Webb Look sketch was "Captain's hat", where the captain would suggest stupid names for places he had discovered, which were the real names of those places (like Virginia and New South Wales), the first mate points out the obvious flaw in the name and the captain asserts his authority by pointing to his hat, asks the first mate what it is, to which the reply is "Captain's hat", "and that makes me?" "Captain, sir" and then the name becomes what the captain had thought of. My second favourite sketch (also hat related, oddly) is the Nazi sketch where the German WWII officer suddenly notices that they have skulls on their caps and comes to the shocking realisation that "I think we're the baddies".

@kellydalstok8900

2 жыл бұрын

The best sketch I’ve seen is the one about the homeopathy hospital.

@NIGonzo

2 жыл бұрын

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@michaelfink64

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, that was excellent. When the doctors asks for a piece of the car that hit him so that he can dilute it 1 in a million or something to cure the patient - Hilarious.

"Heart and soul" sketch. Give it a Goog.

I remember doing a short media course at a college back in 1997. There was a guy also on the course who seemed fond of doing a Jimmy Savile impression. He once did it in a session we had with the course leader, who said she had a history of working with the BBC. She turned a funny colour and mentioned that it was an open secret there to stay away from (and especially keep children away from) the guy, I didn't think that much of it at the time but seemingly his proclivities were well known, at least in some circles, for some considerable time.

I think the one thing that's often forgotten about or at least glossed over about Saville is he wasn't alone, there were many others, lots of well-known names, not just in the entertainment field. What happened to those people? Nothing. What happened to those running the sick trade in young people, nothing. So it's likely still going on and that's more terrifying I think.

@Mirrorgirl492

2 жыл бұрын

Rolf Harris was offered up as the scapegoat and then everyone thought justice had been done and the news cycle moved along leaving a plethora of perpetrators to get away with it. There is no justice.

Right mate, then I also recommend another British show called QI in which David Mitchell makes regular appearances as a guest panelist. It's a brilliant show and one could also claim It's in line with your channel's theme as well.

I've also absolutely love M&W and watched them several times! Watching this video is like a weird cross-over of my favourite content.

Lots of comedians mentioned him in 'themed' jokes, Baddiel & Skinner, Lee & Herring are a couple I can remember off the top of my head.

Being a Brit myself, I can tell you that it was very much an open secret, that there was something iffy about Jimmy Savile. I remember telling my mother, who would watch all the stuff he was in on the Beeb, that I didn't much like the look of him. She would insist that he was very charitable blah blah blah. Sadly, I was not aware that he had even kicked off - in 2011 I was caught up in some other stuff and never even noticed what happened. Mum also never mentioned it, even if she noticed it or thought of me being even mildly interested. I suppose she thought I wouldn't care, as I hadn't liked the man. But now that she is gone, it irks me, that we never spoke about this. SO yes - VERY MUCH THEY WERE SAYING SOMETHING OBVIOUS, without actually saying anything AT ALL... Because Savile was sue happy... VERY sue happy. He would have sued the crap out of them.

@michaelbarbarelli3764

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry about your mum, Kristin.

@kristinbrowne8756

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbarbarelli3764 Thank you, Michael. ;)

Mitchell&Webb was amazing! They also have a precursor with some of the same material that was on the radio called “That Mitchell and Webb sound” can recommend.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar is one of the best sketches ever put out into the world.

I remember the stories breaking about Jimmy Saville well before his death and then subsiding. When the truth came out, I realised it had been covered up, which was the case, and people like myself who didn't really consider Jimmy Saville on a day to day basis, just sort of forgot about him, even though he was still on TV most weeks. Basically the cover up was remarkably effective, but people in the business, Mitchel and Webb, Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols and others knew, and tried to highlight it but were fighting a losing battle. This is a warning of how easy it is to make people forget something that was fully exposed. The fact that Saville was famous for raising money for charity and always doing work for childrens' hospitals made him somewhat invulnerable, perhaps this was a deliberate ploy on his part?

@Thurgosh_OG

2 жыл бұрын

That's the BBC for you. Why people continue to pay for licence to fund these idiots is beyond me; especially when UK viewers can watch about 90% of their current programs on other services that do not need the licence.

@MrPolicekarim

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thurgosh_OG The days of normal tv are over! I think the BBC will always exist to do 'official' stuff, like messages from the Queen of England, and the Prime Minister, or floods and terrorist attacks. But that is about it! It will end up as a glorified Ceefax service!

@garytoner4563

2 жыл бұрын

The worst part is the fact that they gave him a skeleton key for broadmoor hospital so he could come and go anywhere at all in the hospital and take out any of the young girls at his own whim. Even without knowing what we know now this surely wasnt defensible on any level.

@LG-cz6ls

2 жыл бұрын

@@garytoner4563 Ask Edwina Currie about that.