I was tired of putting money into my old bike, I went out got a brand new sportsman. Now I got a few good years till its starts to break lol. I treat it good but not afraid of riding it. Great vid as always.

I have a 99 Grizzly 600 i purchased new long ago in Rennsselaer Indiana.Mine is also red and was well taken care of.Its my only toy left now a days and i found your channel and subbed.I also enjoy 2Vintage ,a guy named Joe up in Wisconsin.He is great at anything he buys to repair.Bikes.... atv's.....utv's....boats....mowers etc.You interested me when you said you have many Grizzy 600's.Im looking for a new winch instal on mine.I know i could do it but some ideas would help out greatly.You impressed me as a very good wrench as we used to say when i was a kid.Thanks for what you do sir..!!

nice video --- if he has the money and is planing on keeping it yes a rebuild is the best way --- i had no luck with Namura pistons --- i rebuilt my grizzly 660 went with Vertex piston and gaskets and valve seals works perfect

Man i feel so bad for the kid.. I hope it works out for him one way or the other, its a lot of money for a teenager

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

Same here! It’s a lot of money for anyone.

@tylerrobert1156

3 ай бұрын

As I teenager who bought his own quad I’ve got I’d say close to $4,000 into it paid $3000 then I upgraded tires replaced starter and gear select wires it would be a bummer having to spend more money on it I feels bad for this kid.

I've been dumping good money after bad into a scrambler 500 this week so I feel for this guy As long as he gets on it enough to have a few thousand bucks worth of fun it's a win

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

Man I like those scrambler 500’s.. I gotta pick up another one someday. Always sucks to keep dumping money into machines though.

I think if he was at the point of purchase only, it’s easy to turn back. But at this point he’s gonna be better off getting the motor done for $1500ish and fixing that frame than to lose the $2500 he’s already in for. Spending another 2k on this quad he knows what he has vs buying another used one for 2k and seeing what he’s in for again.

I bought a victory vision once. Used. Was told it needed a speed sensor. I guess there was 30 or so that made it out of the factory with "the cir clip of death" dumped $5500 into a bike I just paid $9000 for rebuilding it. Rebuild that motor and use it as a life lesson. Stuff is either really cheap, and you fix it or it runs right, and you pay the proper amount.

I really really liked that you informed us on how much each part will cost to the customer. Such a shame this grizzly arrived with a problem that was not easy to fix. How much a good used engine would cost for this machine?

Back in 2020 my buddy got a Suzuki King quad 700 that the wrist pin scored to the connecting rod exactly like that he ended up using a small Dremel Stone to clean up the inside of the rod till the new wrist pin floated properly and then installed a good used cylinder and a brand new high compression piston and has had zero problems with it. But that was on his own machine not for a customer.

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

I might consider it on something of mine but I’ll be liable if it goes down after I repair for the customer. It’s still holding up good to this day?

@mattrimmel9165

3 ай бұрын

i have done the same thing many times but also on my own machines

What did the customer do with the atv now that it needs serious engine work? Thank you for the teardown video , I hope you do more on these old Grizzly 600's.

Nice video

Should start a gofundme and see if we can chip in to help with some of the cost, just hate to see this for such a young kid in his first project these are usually bulletproof

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

That’s an idea! Not sure how many people would be interested though

Already went that far. So id do it.

Love the channel good content I have one for you I have a2005 grizzly 660 under heavy acceleration going forward the reverse light comes on and looses power like it in reverse you think that could be the cdi box.

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

Thanks! I would check your running voltage. It should be no more than 14v when you rev it up. If the voltage regulator goes bad and causes too much voltage into the system, I’ve seen that do some funny things.

@joefailla1834

3 ай бұрын

@@rockspowersports ok thanks I have changed the voltage regulator a couple of times I will c/m the voltage

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

If you keep going through regulators maybe you have a faulty stator.

I would rebuilt it, I just feel bad for the kid tho...

I've used small hone on connecting rod bunch of times has saved them .

Purchasing Used... always a Gamble of what you bought. If it was good they would keep it and not sell it... I've been there more than once. Get it home and find problems you didn't notice when you bought it... Bought a 2000 fourtax 300 last fall and lucked out only a few minor thing I have fixed. It was a around the yard Quad, no mountain goat or in the mud hole type Quad...Feel for the young Guy, hope he and his Dad can come up with something, the Quad season is right around the corner...Peace People.

You would have to look at what you bought it for plus the cost of the repair. And see what the cost to replace the atv. And how much they are worth. He may brake even. Or on the other hand buy a used motor put in it and drive it hopefully for years to come. It’s a hard decision for sure. Not sure if there is even enough parts to part it out to brake even. Not sure what I would do.

its a hard one, i honestly cant even see 2k worth of parts on the bike so he couldn't even part it out to recover some of his money. ive had a couple burn bikes come my way the worst one was a 650 brute i ended up over 4k into it. shop i bought it from claimed it needed 2 cylinder heads cams ect, ended up being a complete rebuild the front diff was completely trashed locker wouldn't function pulled it apart to find teeth missing and it was grease packed. sold the bike for 4400 put 50-60 hrs into it plus my fuel to pick it up 2 hrs away. i only made 300 on it.

Other than the scoring of the small end of the connecting rod why do you say the crank is bad? Did you check connecting rod clearances side to side/up/and down, did you also use a mic on the small end maybe the rod end could be honed in the machine to save money?

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

The Piston pin is hardened steel, by the time you got honing smooth enough it would be very oblong and still scored up. If the owner wants to try that they could but I wouldn’t do it and have my name on the rebuild.

@dsbyrd918

3 ай бұрын

@@rockspowersports I was just curious just bought a 600 grizzly with a knock measured everything and found .012” piston to cylinder clearance. It already had a new 1mm over piston and the jug had been bored to big getting I bored to be 2mm over. I have been binge watching your content keep it up

Thats tough! a shame as the 660/700 parts are not badly priced. Probably time to sell it as is a project, and buy a Kymco etc. end the suffering if you can't do the work yourself. There is the temptation of course to sand down the rod end, and put a new piston in with a quick hone job. ATV's are so expensive used around this area, probably yours too, there is some value in repairing it, not much though, if it was a Grizzly 700 the value ratio would be a lot better. Poor kid!! Time for a moto-4!

Maybe while editing you can normalize sound just a tad? Seems your voice could be a tad louder, while the sounds of Milwaukee tools/ ATV's could be quieter just a bit. Basically normalize the loud noises. There should be such a settings in your editing software, should be called like noise/sound equalization or something like that

@rockspowersports

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. To be honest I’ve been using cheap quality mics.. I recently just picked up a quality mic so that should help going forward. This is the first video I used the new mic in. kzread.info/dash/bejne/e218xaaAZdbFcdI.html

Working on those 600 top ends are a bit of a pain. Nothing crazy. Bored a grizzly .020 over last year. Strong engine. The atv has a whole tho rides like a brick lol.

I think I would be moving on from this bike. ☃️👍👍

For a person with steady income and if they wanted yes I would fix it. I prefer the older stuff. A kid on other hand if he is able and like the quad go for it of not dump it. It's whatever the person wants.

Only if the 660 raptor top end would bolt on that be a nice lil big bore for the 600s but it’s air cooled . What bout the 660 grizz is that liquid cooled like the raptor? If not then shit maybe that would be a cool big bore bolt on for one of these lol

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

The grizzly 660 and the raptor 660 top ends are interchangeable. The older grizzly 600’s are a complete different engine.

Would it be any cheaper to attempt to find a used motor for parts?

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

Possibly if you waited around. I’m eBay they want $700 for a lower end part of the engine.

Great work as always..hope you're not too swamped lol! Whenever you get a chance soon give me that call, thanks!

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

I can give you a call tonight if you’re available.

@robbiemix6403

3 ай бұрын

@@rockspowersports Available anytime tonight! thanks man!

I’ve got a Honda rincon I got to rebuild the top end on hoping I don’t find nothing in there.

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

Let’s hope for the best!

@joshua5104

3 ай бұрын

@@rockspowersports I’d love for you to do it ! I’ve followed you for a long time I love your content brother

You pretty well can’t stop now if you do fix it at least you know what you have frame is it too much of a deal a little bit of fabrication and you’re good there

Put the money in even if you’re going to sell it right after. You either spend $1500 and get a $3500 machine or sell it as is for under $1000. Makes sense to fix it.

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

All up to the customer, still waiting to hear back. In the end is the machine actually worth $3500 after dumping $1500 into it? If he’s planning to keep it then I don’t see an issue fixing it. If he’s planning to sell it though, might be better off taking the loss currently.

I wonder what a used engine would run? But then what if that engine also needs a rebuild or has issues- they are pushing 25 year old engines? This is really a tough call.

Sad part is being into it for so much..At this point might as well fix it.When the motor is out,You can weld up the broken frame..Buying a used atv is always a risk.

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

That’s what I’m thinking but I’ll see what they say. At least this way they know what’s into it.

That sucks! Kinda reminds me of the Honda I did the top end in. The machine at best is worth 3ish in top shape so I’m gonna go with cut the losses especially being that heavy into it already. That’s sucky maybe try to sell him something used you have and waive the bill for this make it a good outcome lol

what do you charge a hour ? Keep up the good videos

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

Labor rate is $85 an hour

Wow !! I would probably tell you to fix it up !! It’s really worth nothing the way it is !!

kinda sucks those go for about $2000 in my area mint condition with aftermarkets

Howdy duty from indiana

I feel bad for the kid. If it were me? I’d put the $1200.00 to $1500.00 into it. He’s already got 3k into it. $1500.00 more and you’ve basically got a new machine. Just my 2 cents. Good luck.

I would

Well if you fix it up then you know what you have if you buy another used bike you don't know what you got unless you go brand new do so honestly if he's buying another used bike I'd say he's better off just fixing this one.

looks like the first guy who worked on it, just did the top end and didn't fix the problem or didn't notice it!!sad!!

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

Yeah.. unfortunately I’ve had a few like this recently.

I would part it out and sink money into getting a 660/700 grizzly

Throwing good money at bad. No matter what he lost a lot on this deal, end it not and stop the pain or keep going and endure more. I'd probably part the thing out and recoup as much as I could, but he will probably rebuild it.

Man im in the sam situation, a good customer of mine ive been doing work for has the same quad and the cam got oil starved and killed the journals ans gouged the cam something fierce, he has already got a new carb and all new transmission😅 I know its not my fault but i still feel guilty, ya know?

It’s going to cost the poor kid a lot of money no matter what but he’s better off to sell it as a project for someone else.

Sounds like the Cam Chain tensioner has collapsed.

Wonder what a used engine would be? Feel like you could buy a whole machine for not much more than the cost to fix. Sucks either way.

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

Used engines are pretty expensive for these unfortunately.

i would stop putting money into it when you got $3,000+ already in it and still needs more work and money is time to cut your loss on it and sell it as parts bike and get get some of your money back but still take a loss on it

If that was the only wheeler i was able to afford and i had tge 1,500 to dump into it i would

well if the kids got the money i think it should fix it after been that far into it 🤷‍♂

At this point, the owner needs to dump it. Part it out, and take as minimal lose as possible. $3,500 plus another $1200. Repairing this machine isn't worth the expense.

If he has $3500 in it already than I say go for it. If he doesn't fix it and parts it out would he get more than $1000?

Im sure that the person that sold it to the kid know the problems with it !!

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately you’re probably right..

"Just needs a carb clean "

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

It’s certainly a gamble buying used..

Don't throw good money on top of bad. Time to give up and learn a $3400 lesson while it's still that cheap.

Nope didn't before learned my lesson

Gotta say, why even bring your dad if he's gonna help you buy a huge P.O.S. ? Kid woulda been better off himself, grown man would feel bad ripping off a kid

That's honestly his dad's fault,

700$/50$ bucks an hour is 14 hours to repair 😂

@rockspowersports

3 ай бұрын

$85 an hour

@MrCodgedodger

3 ай бұрын

Where you getting $50hr shop rate at? lol

@ChannelMarker

3 ай бұрын

What shop only charges $50 - I’ll drive for that kinda cost

@jsvallee567

3 ай бұрын

50$ an hours ? hahah around here its 100$ an hours that's why i learn how to fix my own stuff 😅

@joshua5104

3 ай бұрын

@@rockspowersports unless you would be interested in rebuilding top end on Honda rincon I’ll drive up to you no problem because I know it would be done RIGHT if you did it

Why would anyone buy a machine that sounds like that for $3500?

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