"exciting destinations such as Horsham", never heard that sentence before and probably never will again lol (former Horsham Resident)

@nickhiscock8948

4 жыл бұрын

At least you get more that 2 trains a week. Unlike Horsham in Victoria Australia.

@ethanstransportvlogs45

Жыл бұрын

@@nickhiscock8948 aka anywhere in Australia lol (Bairnsdale) and at least British trains are cheap, it's over $50 for a 3 hour trip...

@grassytramtracks

3 ай бұрын

​@@ethanstransportvlogs45 a 3 hour will cost a lot more than the equivalent of 50 AUD in the UK

why am i even watching this? i live in santa cruz california usa, I guess I just love your video style

@geofftech2

6 жыл бұрын

thanks Ciarán appreciated the kind comment!

@spuddy345

6 жыл бұрын

Ciarán Farley-Toone I

@robertheal5137

6 жыл бұрын

Do you know the way to San Jose ?

@JBLewis

6 жыл бұрын

Here in Minnesota, I'm just jealous of the rail service.

@nojam75

6 жыл бұрын

I have the same thought from Portland, Oregon. No idea what they’re talking about, but it’s interesting to see people so excited about train service.

As someone who doesn't live in England, I find it very useful to have increased direct service from Gatwick Airport to points north of London. This would enhance the convenience of the airport, especially compared with Heathrow. There is a lot of growth in trans-Atlantic flights, especially with low cost carriers such as Norwegian and Wow Air, who are expanding at Gatwick because Heathrow is at capacity.

@sihollett

6 жыл бұрын

Gatwick is actually more 'full' (really 'some way beyond the ideal capacity utilisation rate' - both airports keep finding a bit more room each year) than Heathrow. The last year of data sees Gatwick's single runway deal with 285,969 aircraft movements (2.1% growth) and 45.5 million passengers (5.2% growth) while Heathrow's 2 has 475,783 movements (0.2% growth) and 78 million passengers (3% growth) - about 85% less busy than double Gatwick (as Heathrow has double the capacity) on both measures.

@galactic_nerd-sk4747

4 жыл бұрын

RIP Wow Air

@RunawayTrain2502

2 жыл бұрын

Comments that didn't age well...

And now we know why Thameslink isn't on the Tube map.

@stephenholt4670

6 жыл бұрын

Yet the London Overground, with its ridiculous orange tentacles, is on there.

@Tobberz

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's getting pretty monstrous

@trainmaniacstudios8216

6 жыл бұрын

Surely it would make more sense to make a separate 'London metro' map with Thameslink and Overground on it?

@trainmaniacstudios8216

6 жыл бұрын

Well no, Not particularly. It doesnt show the full extent of the Thameslink lines. Im thinking more along the lines of the old NSE maps

@somethingclever1128

6 жыл бұрын

yeah idk its pretty daft. thameslink is a cross london route, with a part in zone 1/2, even if it goes further than the overground. it would probably also help relieve the northern line or such if it showed you can take the thameslink instead or something

Being from Cambridge and living here now, it still bring me joy to see Geoff at my hometown station and on a platform that I've actually been on.

@ito55

6 ай бұрын

Same!!

I live in Brighton and have a university offer from Cambridge; I have been following this quite a bit.

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

I hope you have a good osteopath - sitting in one of those seats for nearly three hours! It will probably be faster, and certainly more comfortable, to use the express services to Victoria and from Kings Cross, using the Tube to get from one terminus to another

@lawrencemartin8102

6 жыл бұрын

Louis Hypothetical use Gatwick express to Victoria, the tube to Liverpool Street/Stratford then take greater Anglia to Cambridge. Long-ass day, though.

@DavidFrankal

6 жыл бұрын

Congrats on your offer! I'd use the direct service tbh. The seats aren't great but commuting via London would be made a lot less stressful without having to change.

@ahpadt

6 жыл бұрын

why not victoria station - victoria line to kings cross - fast service to cambs?

@jaguar2576

6 жыл бұрын

see my post above for direct trains.

I'm from the USA (near Seattle, Washington), and I visited London (and other parts of the UK) in 2015 and loved it, especially "The London Tube". I'm currently watching your "All the Stations". That too is very good. Keep it up. Watching your videos makes me want to visit again and do more looking around at the not so touristy places like the places you are going to.

I've not been so excited for a rail tunnel opening since Crossrail. Well done, Thameslink! And that tea was so good it knocked you sideways.

Thank you, thank you, thank you Geoff for this video! My child and I have begun considering universities and university course programs and have always thought Kent to Cambridge is just too tedious to consider but with this new information (which we have watched to the very end), we now know that will NO LONGER be an issue! This is BRILLIANT, as we would like to consider Cambridge as well as Oxford, which we can already get to quickly and easily from Kent on a very regular basis. Why does it matter so much if my child will be as far as Cambridge if he or she is living there anyhow? Well, my child has Asperger’s Syndrome and so being able to get to and from home and back for both of us MUST be factored into this huge decision. This video has opened up a great opportunity now with Ashford connecting to Cambridge twice an hour during peak time from end of this year! This is great! My child has a heart set on Oxbridge and now BOTH may be considered equally! Hurrah!

@eaglehousewasteservices1709

2 жыл бұрын

Ash Ford to Cambridge services have been deferred

Massive fan of your videos Geoff, all so brilliantly presented and filmed to such a professional standard. You are amazing and loved your friend on this video, the blending of the maps, very inspired. Never seen this video before, it came on after a BBC News report about how uncomfortable the seating is on the Thameslink trains. Watched to see if you mentioned this. Due to East Croydon to London Victoria being closed last Thursday, part of a 10 day closure, I made a return journey to St Pancras to get to London from there. I was left in AGONY in the days following that day, including an emergency Osteopath appointment last Saturday. Still in a lot of pain. LOVE every video I see of yours. Each one is a mini masterpiece, full of incredible knowledge but interspersed with lovely humour and informal little touches. And you STILL haven't been to the Isle of Wight... 🙄 Thanks mate. Martin

A thoroughly enjoyable video! Thank you Geoff..!!! 👌

Hey Dave! Unusual ticket for an unusual journey for an unusual guy named Geoff!

PDF of proposed themeslink map - www.betterbankside.co.uk/sites/default/files/goviathamelinktimetableconsultationfor2018.pdf#page=12 (page 12)

Brilliant. I lived in Cambridge in 2012 & still go back to visit friends - we never had the Thameslink service then. I took a train from *Farringdon* to C'bridge & was gobsmacked - think it passed thru St Pancras. Also some of these trains go to Gatwick! Brilliant.

It is amazing how much the infrastructure's changed since i grew up in Croydon back in the 70's and 80's, back then there were no north/south London crossings at all. Now there are loads of them. Big difference. I have lived down in Devon for many years now so have not witnessed any of the changes myself. No doubt the whole rial network will seem very different to how i remember it with the old slam door trains.

I never thought I'd be interested in this type of video, and yet here I am. You make these subjects super interesting! I confess I am now a little bit of a transport "nerd".

Really enjoyed this vid. Certainly looking forward to the May 2018 timetable when more Thameslink services will use the Canal Tunnels to and from the ECML. I think Dave's drawing of the new Thameslink map is excellent.

great video Geoff - just been sharing it with a few people. I may actually go through the canal tunnel for the first time on Saturday from South London.

I’m no way a Trainspotter but I love these vlogs. So interesting I live in Horsham, so we’ve got the new Thameslink to Peterborough and Cambridge This means I no longer have to go to Victoria to get to St Pancras and Kings X. It saves so much time Amazing.

Great easy to understand explanation by Roger @ Govia there. Congrats!

now addicted to your videos. bad times.

thank you for this great film

Travelled through from St. Neots (SNO) to Pancras the other week, on my way to Highgate for the Hidden London Wilderness Walk tour of the old station. Returned via same route from Platform B at Pancras after visiting King's X and seeing no Peterborough trains advertised.

Great as always Geoff!! :)

Such an exciting time to be travelling on the railways 😊

I never knew this was happening! This is amazing 😁

Thanks Geoff and Dave

Watched to the outtake, thought you'd dropped the tea at first!

It's really useful for getting to Croydon and Gatwick from Cambridge!

Man, I'm seeing stuff about new connections in the Greater London area, while we in New York are still waiting on the second (small) phase of the Second Avenue Subway, as well as the Long Island Rail Road's East Side Access and more tracks on the Main Line east of Floral Park. (And that's to say nothing of many other proposals to improve connections both within NYC and between NYC and surrounding areas.)

I’ve travelled between Farringdon and Cambridge,very good.

Geoff - You might like to add a comment on screen that on your Northbound trip that you are going over 'The Cambridge Flyover' which allows services on the down slow of the ECML reach the down Cambridge line thus avoiding the ladder just North of Hitchin Station across the down and up ECML. Services started running over the flover on 26th June 2013.

Very excited, as had no idea this was coming, but I live in Scotland with family in Sussex, might not have to be doing the underground with either suitcase or big backpack.

I'm in Australia and I watch them. I've only been to London 4 times, entertaing and interesting

That board was like that when I was at Cambridge last week! It's not just the new route confusing it :p

We used the service from Brighton to Cambridge recently. Hard seats suited to a shorter journey ( not unexpected). Slow on 3rd rail current. Full load between London Bridge and Finsbury Park only. Light loading between 3 Bridges and Hitchin. Impressive use of ECML. Great alternative route but with a one hour penalty for a Norwich to Brighton day out. We will contrive to use it again on a day out in Chichester or perhaps Lewes. Tom Cat

Didn't realise the Brighton v Cambridge service had already started until I saw this video. Got all excited until I realised that the current service (two trains a day in each direction) means a day trip by direct trains gives you a total of ten minutes in Cambridge (barely long enough to set foot outside the station). Still, roll on May...

The idea of running services through a capital city is hardly a novelty in other countries. Admittedly, it's a smaller capital city, but Line 0 in Brussels was planned in 1909 and opened in 1952. Over 1,200 trains a day, running on six tracks, including international services to France, the UK, the Netherlands, Luxembourg and Germany. Regular clock-face services from one side of the country to the other, many going via the country's main airport. International trains linking airports in Paris, Brussels, Frankfurt and Amsterdam. We have some catching up to do in the UK. I can't even catch a train to Heathrow from the south-west of England, even though the line goes right past.

The Canal Tunnels were built during the Channel Tunnel Rail Link project (Contract 103). They effectively replace the long-since redundant York Curve and Hotel (Great Northern) Curve tunnels.

Love the nameplates with the BR Logo.

Nice one Dave (and Geoff). Getting a bit 'Rain Man' with the map! Surprised you didn't ask G Man for a ruler!The reason they let you sit in 1st is the seats are less like reinforced concrete! Also, those trains look and smell a bit like swimming pool changing rooms! Nice to see that camera is still pissed!

Love your vids if it is your birthyday happy birthyday i have been following you for like 2-3 years almost.

Excellent video Geoff, this will be very helpful for me as it will be easier to get to Gatwick and I won't have to go to St Pancras instead go to Finsbury Park

Can't wait for a direct link between Portsmouth and Cambridge!

@PGATProductions

2 жыл бұрын

that’s not as unreasonable as you think

Ah, they have replicated the old connections at KX, the York and Hotel curves - the Victorians were not daft so already had this route sorted...further on down the line at Liverpool street, there used to be a co0nnection to the Eastern mainline from the Met lines - not sure if you could cross over to the old ELL lines (flat crossover spanning 13 to 15 tracks, so even if possible not really practical) and thus connect to boat trains etc

Nice Cambridge to Brighton this is fun

My heart has sunk every time over the last few weeks that I have seen one of these Thames Link trains. They have about 4 seats per carriage hewn from solid granite. The rest of the vast, echoing space is the most spartan, miserable train experience I’ve encountered in the UK.

What I'd love to see is a Milton Keynes to Brighton or Sevenoaks. That would be great

@imbracedinmate4522

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I live in berkhamsted and it would be great if they converted the southern service to Thameslink.

@cbaboxsqueeze

4 жыл бұрын

At thé beginning thé now-Southern then Connex used to run from Rugby to Brighton, but it was a long slow journey

@elizabethmh_465

2 жыл бұрын

I would love a Sevenoaks to London and on to kings lynn service

@PGATProductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@cbaboxsqueeze the approach to clapham junction forces trains onto the slow lines, and you can’t swap to the fast line as that causes conflicting movements on 4 tracks

@tomzitiger

2 жыл бұрын

@@cbaboxsqueeze why the é

No mention of what are possibly the most uncomfortable seats on the UK mainline railway together with nowhere to put your (windowside) foot/leg if you sit on the window seat due to the protrusion at floor level. You either sit at an angle, put your foot on top of the protrusion or else sit in a gangway seat. Not a very high score for the design.

I'm from Brighton too!

Could you make a video with a shortlist of the most visually interesting train stations/train journeys in London please? I think it would be fun to watch, I'd certainly like to spend a day in London just being a tourist of the train stations and journeys that are the most fun to visit. I'm also a fan of photography so some photogenic stations would be cool to see too.

You can't shake Dave!

Hey Geoff! Ever considered coming to Sydney? Our suburban trains are quite weird as they are double decker but we are getting a jubilee line style metro system through the City. I went to London in December last year and jubilee line is my favourite. Keep it up mate I love your videos!!

@metjushfromcave

6 жыл бұрын

double decker suburban (S Bahn) trains are actually rather common in Europe, too (on the continent, that is). I have seen them in Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Slovakia, Czech Republic... they just seem never to have caught on in the UK

@kodamathedestroyed

6 жыл бұрын

Our Victorian era tunnels and bridges are too bloody small for double decker trains.

@MadBiker-vj5qj

6 жыл бұрын

Double-decker trains for the UK were trialled in 1949- but never caught on. See:kzread.info/dash/bejne/iYCsr7mResjPeLg.html and an earlier mock-up: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y5VmrZKNgJTSqLA.html

@andrewjameson5918

6 жыл бұрын

Why has the monrail gone

@tazzer9

6 жыл бұрын

I would love for geoff to come to australia. He could do a least used stations here and it would put the Uk version to shame. Imagine him going to traveston, wallarobba, darnick, bell, and heathcote junction. He would be amazed

I live in Richmond, VA USA and haven’t been to the UK since 2009 what the hell am I doing here? 😂

Well done Geoff

Aw rats! We lived in Haywards Heath and our son and his family lived in Finsbury Park, but now we are on the other side of the world in NZ. This service would have been sooooooo useful back then! I just hope the seats are better than those awful things in the original Thameslink trains.

Some much needed useful direct links being created here. One more that's being lost though, if the Luton - Rainham service is replacing the Charing Cross - Gillingham route, is the direct link between Blackheath and Charlton. Lewisham passengers will still be able to access the North Kent Line via the DLR to Greenwich, but it'll be a slower journey. Blackheath will definitely lose out.

@bigdmcc1

6 жыл бұрын

The Southeastern timetable will include 2tph Charing Cross-Dartford via Blackheath and Charlton, so that link will still be there - it just won't extend beyond Dartford any more. (I'm going off the consultation document; I don't think the timetable has been finalised just yet.)

@sihollett

6 жыл бұрын

Charing Cross-Lewisham-Blackheath-Charlton trains will still run, just to Dartford, not Gillingham.

I think Dave got on my bus this past few months!

Geoff, I'd like to see *you* draw a map of all 12 of those routes, from memory.

I've been had yet again as happiness for a new line to Rainham turns to despair when I find out it's the one in Kent... 😣

@bigdmcc1

6 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I should have specified it was Kent and not Essex!

I ended up on a service that had come from Peterborough to Horsham, the whole journey appears to take well over two hours

@MrGreatplum

6 жыл бұрын

benivanphillips - I doubt you could do that journey by car in two hours...

I took a Horsham train from St Neots at the weekend :) what do you think of the class 700s?

I recognise the regional BBC reporter who was conducting the interview.

0:15 the M&S used be a lovely little café & waiting room in the 90’s

Shame there is no longer the proposed Caterham thameslink line as that would have been very helpful for me haha

@naijiktom

6 жыл бұрын

Japaneezi I'll be surprised if that's not included on the London Overground given time. Same with Tattenham Corner.

@allmyothersubscriptions

6 жыл бұрын

Just switch at East Croydon or Purley; it won't take long!

@FinlayEvans

6 жыл бұрын

Purley's the station I always go to anyway, but Caterham's my local, so it would be nice to have the link straight to Kentish Town for me haha

Edinburgh to Brighton or Aberdeen/Inverness to Brighton. TBH it would be quite cool

great northern own cambridge greater anglia owns the station too but only The bays They use throughs for peak ely and kings lynn trains

That was intreting Geoff.

Well, dang: I was in Cambridge that day, so I could have seen you. But, going on the basis of the screen next to the messed up one at 1:24, you were gone by the time I was at the station. :(

Matt.. Can you please warn me to mind the signs. I mind the gap, I wait behind the yellow line, I watch my step on the escalators.. But I find a damn station sign to tumble over ;p

@moramento22

6 жыл бұрын

I would love to hear "MIND THE SIGNS" in a tube or a rail station someday

WOW I'm impressed (I'm also a LONG way away now, so makes little difference to me) BUT, I'm wondering, it's always been a nightmare getting from the SW, say Totnes or Paignton to the east coast, Brighton or Cambridge/ Lincolnshire > so is this now possible? And is the change straightforward? I'm asking for my elderly relatives who are losing the will to drive! Very fascinating - would like to see more in-depth of Brighton Station as I saw some behind the scenes during refurbishment some years ago. 👌👍😉 You do a smashing job Geoff Marshall.

I noticed you went over the hitchin-letchworth viaduct

At 4.45 and again at 5.50 you have lovely shots, presumably from the cab, showing the overhead electric cables. Can someone tell me why the cable supports in these shots are so much less obtrusive than the supports recently built on the Great Western line?

@bigdmcc1

6 жыл бұрын

There are a variety of reasons, but in a nutshell: the stuff used at Hitchin is (based on) the BR Mark 3 electrification; lightweight, cheap to put up, but unreliable and not suitable for really fast (125mph+) running. The GWML is getting the new NR Series 1 kit, which should be more reliable than any UK electrification and suitable for 140mph running with multiple pantographs. (More than one pantograph on a train is a big problem due to resonance waves.)

Hey Dave! Hey Geoff! :)

Currently (January 2020) there are no Ashford to Cambridge services

@PGATProductions

2 жыл бұрын

currently (february 2022) there are no ashford to cambridge services

We need the Oxford to Cambridge ( varsity line) reopening will help Bedford plus I ride along the derelict line every month and every time I asked myself why is this not reopening. Love Dave's map, cheesy wave is now your signature sign off guys. Sorry guys once done it's law.

@sjcsystems

6 жыл бұрын

Daniel Stans go to www.eastwestrail.co.uk and ensure you complete their feedback form!!

My current way of getting to uni is Thameslink up to Farringdon, tube to Liv Street, train to Norwich. New way to cut out underground and London expense could be Norwich to Cambridge then change straight onto Thameslink, which I thought would be neat, but I finish in May anyway. The trains are also totally unsuitable for longer distance travel. It's enough of a stretch in the hour and whatever it takes for me to get to Farringdon, but adding Cambridge onto that would be a nightmare, plus no tables to get work done on.

i remember when these lines started running with the new timetable the services were so bad as they needed to train all the drivers 90% of trains got cancelled and so on and so forth, thank god they are all sorted out and i can get a train to horsham and then go to portsmouth! long live govia!

Clearly, another animation, of how Thameslink has evolved will be needed. Any chance this will be in the 'Pipeline' Geoff?

@sihollett

6 жыл бұрын

From 1868 if possible!

@DavidFrankal

6 жыл бұрын

That would be good. It may be a bit cheeky of me, but I'd like to plug mine if you're interested: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dmimlNh6isnYk6g.html

What do you think of the seats on the new 700? BBC compares them to 'ironing boards'.

But the East Coast Mainline has been linked to what is now Thameslink before... Via Kings Cross York Road/Suburban!

@bigdmcc1

6 жыл бұрын

True! That was connected via a flat junction, though. It was briefly considered for reinstatement in the 1990s, but it would have been a nightmare to have flat junctions at both Kings Cross and Blackfriars.

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

Also there would have been no room for a platform long enough for a 12-car Class 700 at Kings Cross, and the northbound platform (Platform 16) has disappeared in the redevelopment of the station. I believe the curvature of the "Hotel Curve" was also too tight for carriages of normal length to get round without hitting the sides.

@DavidFrankal

6 жыл бұрын

Indeed, the old alignment would have been quite inadequate for the current Thameslink, but its still an interesting thing to note. These services aren't new, they're just reinstated.

Thought it was strange seeing a Thameslink train going to Peterborough

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

The Class 700s are gradually being introduced onto the Kings Cross-Peterborough services in advance of the through services being introduced.

@KentRailProductions

6 жыл бұрын

The 700s are in Eastbourne as they don't need all of them for service yet, they are warm running them to keep them in order for when they come into service.

I imagine the Cambridge to Liverpool Street and Stansted airport trains will be unaffected but what will happen to the trains between Cambridge and Kings Cross, or indeed the ones that go as far as Ely and Kings Lynn? Will there be fewer of those?

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

Service frequency between Cambridge and London will be more or less the same. The Cambridge stopping services will go down the hole, but the Kings Lynn services (non-stop from Cambridge to London) will still go to Kings Cross.

@bigdmcc1

6 жыл бұрын

Actually the eventual plan for December 2019 has an *increase* in frequency between London and Cambridge. Currently, it's 2tph fast, 1tph semi-fast, 1tph stopping, all from King's Cross. From Dec 2019 it'll be 2tph fast from King's Cross, and 2tph semi-fast, 2tph stopping from St Pancras.

0:38 sounded like Bob Warman from ITV Central News

387s go rarely nowadays through the Canal Tunnels

I remember the original plan involved reopening the Guildford service as well. Shame that hasn’t happened, I need better and faster services

@benmoulden2455

6 жыл бұрын

you poor thing

@lawrencemartin8102

6 жыл бұрын

Skudder157 are you talking about a more frequent southern service to gld or having Thameslink trains to gld?

@157official8

6 жыл бұрын

Lawrence Martin both ideally but Thameslink is what I was talking about

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

Thameslink did originally have a Guildford service (via Streatham, West Croydon and Epsom) but it was replaced in 1995 by the current Wimbledon loop service as this was more self-contained and didn't cut across so many of the newly-privatised franchises.

@benmoulden2455

6 жыл бұрын

Don't complain about a half hourly timetable, Gomshall only receives one every 2

At the moment their is only one off peek direct train from CBG 11:24 to BTN 13:42 and only one back BTN 14:32 to CBG 16:48 - Journey time 2hrs 18mins - Which is brilliant. Can they be more specific on the ramp up - need comuter trains direct for students say 7am / 17pm. Plus a direct CBG - PMH would be nice too :)

@bigdmcc1

6 жыл бұрын

Not sure what the exact plans for driver training will entail between now and May, there may be more than two trains a day or they may just keep it like that. From the May timetable change there will be an hourly service between Cambridge and Brighton; that will then go up to half-hourly in December 2018. From December 2019 there will also be a half-hourly service between Cambridge and Maidstone East (extending to Ashford in the peaks). No plans for Portsmouth to be served by Thameslink, probably too far from the main routes to be useful.

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

You really wouldn't want to be on a class 700 seat all the way from Portsmouth to Cambridge. Anyway it will be much quicker to get a fast train from Pompey to Waterloo and another from Kings Cross to Cambridge

11:44 - my work!

Blackfriars is going to be ThamesLinks most popular Station

You say your going south into the core but you showed going over the Hitchin Fly Over which is for the northbound trains to CBG

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

He said in the film that he travelled both ways - the Hitchin footage must have been taken on the northbound run but most of the filming was on the way back.

It seems ludicrous GTR are replacing the 313s on the Northern City Line but not on the Coastway Routes

@agent_605

5 жыл бұрын

Intercity 43 The Coastway units have a lot less demand on them and have been refurbished much more recently

Crossrail is now "Sexy-rail"! brought to you by ThamesLink

Now, I'm thinking, these trains look OK for on-off hops... Commuters.... But if there's no tables even in cattle class, and the seats are unforgiving - how can someone travel from Brighton to Cambridge without some pain? Are there any plans for more comfortable long distance (inter-city) services?? I DO hanker after that seemingly LOST consideration of TRAVELING in COMFORT, and can we dream of style?! That Dave has some head for numbers!! AMAZING, thanks for sharing.

Do you have more footage of the tunnel from the cab you can share?

Happy birthday Geoff! Out of interest, are there currently infrastructure projects like this happening in the north of England?

@DavidFrankal

6 жыл бұрын

Best we got was a 500m chord in Manchester which lets trains take a slightly longer route... That's about it.

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

....which lets trains from the north reach Manchester Airport. There is also the recently-reopened Todmorden Curve, the Halton Curve is to reopen soon, and electrification is proceeding apace - rather more successfully than in the south where the Great Western scheme has been cut back, and the Midland Main Line scheme just cut!

@Geoff Marshall ? Will the Cambridge train stop at East Croydon at all as been looking at National Rail and it still says that you have to change at London Bridge?? Just wondering as you get good info from Thameslink's PR team.

@bigdmcc1

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, it will stop at East Croydon. For now there are only two departures a day to Cambridge, at 12:18 and 15:18; from May this will go up to hourly, and then from December it should be half-hourly. In the meantime, yes, you will probably need to change somewhere. It's also possible that the journey planner is telling you to change at London Bridge because the "preview" services have a long layover at London Bridge (~17 minutes) to fit into the existing timetables - so it's possible you can leave East Croydon later, change at London Bridge and still make the same train. Try clicking the "show overtaken trains" option and see if they show up?

@kingofthepennies8358

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that David will prob look at London Bridge for a change over.

No return of Kentish Town to London Bridge in future, which is a pity. I note that Thameslink will be a competitor to Crossrail 1 for Abbey Wood.

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

Not much of a competitor - slower and much less frequent.Kentish Town to London Bridge already has a direct service - and has done since 1924 - it's called the Northern Line

So why did I see a Thameslink train stopped at Welwyn Garden City?

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

Class 700s are being used on other GN services (out of Kings Cross) - probably one of those you saw.

Does that mean South Merton and Morden South will be even less used? I notice 2ph St Albans to Sutton and 2ph St Albans to Wimbledon - will that mean the (Wimbledon)-Wimbledon Chase - West Sutton-(Sutton) section of the Sutton loop will loss it's service?

@bigdmcc1

6 жыл бұрын

No, don't panic, the Sutton loop service will be essentially the same as at present: it should really say 2tph St Albans-Sutton via Mitcham, and 2tph St Albans-Sutton via Wimbledon.

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