Thameslink Review : The "Ironing Board" Seats

A review of the infamous Thameslink "Ironing Board" seats on a journey between London St Pancras and Gatwick Airport.
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Date of Travel: 12/03/2020
Class of Travel: Standard Class (2nd Class)
Rolling Stock: Class 700 Desiro City
Cost of Ticket: £8.20 ($10.07, €9.13; railcard discount included)
Origin: St Pancras International, London, United Kingdom (England)
Destination: Gatwick Airport, United Kingdom (England)
*Currency conversions correct as of 28/05/2020

Пікірлер: 540

  • @DylansTravelReports
    @DylansTravelReports4 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget to check out my review of the other train you can catch to Gatwick Airport! Southern Standard Class Review: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dpWu16xmkt24hrA.html

  • @benjamintery7847

    @benjamintery7847

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Chubby Squidz although Southern is definitely not my fave, its way better than Thameslink. I would prefer to rely on Gatwick Express to reach the airport.

  • @gregorybrett1142

    @gregorybrett1142

    4 жыл бұрын

    Growing up in South London and going to uni in Brighton I have a lot of experience with these trains. From my South London perspective, as a local heavy metro service in central London and its suburbs, these are an absolute godsend, clean, spacious, and very modern feeling. However, from my Brighton perspective, they're just not comfortable enough to be used as regional commuter trains, and when coming home from uni I would always go out of my way to use Southern when heading home, and parent company Govia know it, as they will often charge passengers a premium to use Southern instead of Thameslink, and there are even plans to end Southern services to central Brighton completely. These trains are unfortunately being used for a job they were never built for, and should only run on local routes, because let's face it, no one is gonna want to go from Brighton to Cambridge on an ironing board for two hours

  • @benjamintery7847

    @benjamintery7847

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gregorybrett1142 I can't believe this. Govia is ripping us off, making us pay more for their shit product. This company is a mistake and a shame to the train industry. It's in the name, Thames Link, not Brighton Link

  • @AndrewG1989

    @AndrewG1989

    4 жыл бұрын

    What about Gatwick Express Class 387/2s. Those seats are ironing board and hard to sit down on.

  • @malachinumba1

    @malachinumba1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Next time I should do Thameslink first class

  • @uktransporthub9011
    @uktransporthub90114 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact, the rear first class is free on all Thameslink services. It comes with plugs to charge your phone and very comfy seats.

  • @wisehat_yt

    @wisehat_yt

    2 жыл бұрын

    the seats in first class is no where near comfy

  • @CreatorPolar

    @CreatorPolar

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wisehat_yt definitely more comfortable than the standard class seats

  • @dodahspeak

    @dodahspeak

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CreatorPolar yes, thats true. But they still leave a lot to be desired.

  • @CreatorPolar

    @CreatorPolar

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dodahspeak welcome to the world of suburban first class my friend

  • @dodahspeak

    @dodahspeak

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CreatorPolar yea, I guess so!

  • @gregorybrett1142
    @gregorybrett11424 жыл бұрын

    Just thought I'd mention when heading to Gatwick from London by Thameslink, it's almost always quicker to take a Brighton train than a Horsham train, even if the Horsham train arrives first. The Brighton trains travel non stop between East Croydon and Gatwick, whilst the Horsham trains stop at almost every local station in between so take a lot longer. The local tracks on this route are separate from the express tracks, so it's possible for Brighton services to overtake Horsham services

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Will bear that in mind.

  • @lzh4950

    @lzh4950

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup I previously took a Brighton-bound train (from Blackfriars) & the train reached Gatwick within 40min

  • @andynorris3537
    @andynorris35374 жыл бұрын

    My back was groaning when you showed the seats remember them well when I was in London in December absolutely rock hard

  • @theblacktrainboy373
    @theblacktrainboy3734 жыл бұрын

    I remember riding the class 700 and getting so excited until I sat on the seat I waited 6 years for that one moment

  • @williamhuang8309

    @williamhuang8309

    2 жыл бұрын

    "My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined"

  • @ameerali.ouarda
    @ameerali.ouarda4 жыл бұрын

    For me it' not the back of the seat that I dislike, it's the fact that the bottom base is rock hard solid, through they have gotten better as more people have sat on them it seems to have broken through. I have read that these harder seats are due to "new fire regulations". Load of rubbish if you ask me. I hate the fact that there are no power outlets, arm rests, coat hooks or reading lamps. Some seats do offer more legroom in standard class. First Class is much nicer with large tables, wider thicker seats, head rests, more leg room etc. And it is always declassified at the rear.

  • @rpenguinboy

    @rpenguinboy

    4 жыл бұрын

    it felt like my bum broke the first time i sat on them seats

  • @iman2341

    @iman2341

    4 жыл бұрын

    The first class seats are the level I would expect for the entire train tbh.

  • @physiocrat7143

    @physiocrat7143

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nothing to do with fire regs. Stupid excuse.

  • @Jsfun

    @Jsfun

    3 жыл бұрын

    First class at the very least does have some power sockets, including the declassified area at the back.

  • @dublinius

    @dublinius

    3 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps the fire regulations are more strict because it goes underground?

  • @doveronefoxtrot4417
    @doveronefoxtrot44174 жыл бұрын

    I'm old enough to remember the days of the slammers, and as far as I'm aware their seats were springs and horse hair. And you would quite literally bounce on them. Such a different experience.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    I always think it's a shame the days of slam doors and compartments are all but over here in Britain.

  • @surfie007
    @surfie0074 жыл бұрын

    That train looks almost identical to the trains on the Gold Coast train line in Australia that replaced the old trains in 2018 in time for the 2018 Commonwealth Games. From the start people called them the ironing board seats because there is very little cushioning and with the straight back, they're much more uncomfortable compared to the old train's seats.

  • @robertparry4929
    @robertparry49294 жыл бұрын

    As can Aussie who traveled the UK by train last year, the videos you have are bringing back vivid memories. We are starting to use the ironing board seats on our short trip country services in Victoria

  • @louislegrand2865
    @louislegrand28654 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Dylan! The London Saint-Pancras station is magnificent, thank you for showing us around! We saw the station, thank you! The city of London is beautiful. I think that despite the weird seats of this train (lol), it's interesting to take it, if only for the magnificent panoramic views of London: moreover, the train is well ventilated and very bright. Too bad the seats are so "rustic". It is a pleasure to see your videos, and in addition you think like me.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I always love it when I get to catch a train from St Pancras. Great scenery but not so great seats.

  • @louislegrand2865

    @louislegrand2865

    4 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion, we can see, just in the design of the seats, that they are not comfortable and above all really weird. It is still curious. For a tourist who only takes this train twice, it's cool. But it is certain that if it is every day or often, it is another story. It's really curious.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I take these trains quite often and I'm certainly not fond of them.

  • @Great_WesternTVFan

    @Great_WesternTVFan

    4 жыл бұрын

    @TheRenaissanceman65 agree

  • @chrisg38
    @chrisg384 жыл бұрын

    1:18 Inspector Sands!!

  • @firealarmguy

    @firealarmguy

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can also hear the alert comming from the fire alarms at 1:34

  • @JimbobsTransportVideos

    @JimbobsTransportVideos

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or is it’s SANS que megalomania

  • @kylethemadman1

    @kylethemadman1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol also heard when departing St Pancras

  • @JimbobsTransportVideos

    @JimbobsTransportVideos

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sans is going to kill you all

  • @lewis02754

    @lewis02754

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who is inspector sands

  • @m20newell
    @m20newell4 жыл бұрын

    Always worth remembering that 1st class at the rear of a Thameslink train is declassified. Not much difference with the seat, but you do get a power socket

  • @THX_1138
    @THX_11384 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad I saw this video. I HATE those seats, they are are so rock hard that I find them literally painful to sit on for more than a few seconds. I can only imagine what it's like for older people. Dreadful passenger-hostile design.

  • @TheArkamedBat

    @TheArkamedBat

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are sadly in 707s(SWR)😭😭😭😭😭😡😡😡😭😭😭😭😡😭😭😭😡😭😡😡😡😡😭😭😡😭😭😡😭😭😭

  • @Scottish_Transport_Explorer

    @Scottish_Transport_Explorer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheArkamedBat well to be honest I don’t think the 707s are that bad the seats are bad and that they don’t have any tables the rest of the train is not to bad

  • @TheArkamedBat

    @TheArkamedBat

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Scottish_Transport_Explorer No toilets

  • @Scottish_Transport_Explorer

    @Scottish_Transport_Explorer

    3 жыл бұрын

    True

  • @apl175
    @apl1754 жыл бұрын

    I wasted time taking Gatwick Express to Victoria and then to my hotel near Euston Square. Thameslink would've put me a lot closer - near Kings X. Will remember for next time.

  • @partyentertains4092

    @partyentertains4092

    3 жыл бұрын

    And would have saved you money.

  • @TheArkamedBat

    @TheArkamedBat

    3 жыл бұрын

    I never took GX

  • @callumthornelow2936
    @callumthornelow29364 жыл бұрын

    Another brilliant review, I live in Chatham and I remember riding on these when they started running to Rainham and I have never ever complained about 375 seating since. So far the only person i know who loves them is my local osteopath.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I too don't complain about the 375s any more 😅

  • @susanallen456
    @susanallen4564 жыл бұрын

    I have to do the full Bedford to Brighton day return fairly frequently and totally dread the 2hours plus each way in those seats. Whoever designed them needs strapping to them and sending on a nonstop all day journey as punishment.

  • @mr8I7

    @mr8I7

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm assuming changing at Bletchley and then Clapham Junction isn't worth the extra cost/risk with the transfers?

  • @paul_emersonix
    @paul_emersonix2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! I learned a lot from your videos. I am excited to visit London …hopefully next year 😁

  • @lewis02754
    @lewis027544 жыл бұрын

    4:18 Geoff Marshal.

  • @AidenHowlett

    @AidenHowlett

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah, that's Matt not Geoff.

  • @maureendesquitado3606
    @maureendesquitado36064 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dylan I enjoyed the video!!!Thank in you for uploading this video!!!

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 😁

  • @cambsy37
    @cambsy374 жыл бұрын

    Go to First Class at the rear of 700 Thames link trains, ie any thames link service, they are declassified, there you will find power sockets, and more space, though still same seats, I always do this when on 700’s.

  • @boringfunny2767

    @boringfunny2767

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don’t tell anyone 🤫

  • @A_Porcupine
    @A_Porcupine4 жыл бұрын

    I travel (well before Corona virus) to work on these and actually find the seats quite comfortable. In the mornings I tend to go in the first class section as it's 'declassified' in the rear so anyone can sit in there.

  • @KempSimon

    @KempSimon

    4 жыл бұрын

    How do you know that the First Class section in the rear of the train is declassified? I never knew that and wish that I had before I travelled in a Class 700 from Gatwick Airport to Cambridge!

  • @A_Porcupine

    @A_Porcupine

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@KempSimon www.thameslinkrailway.com/tickets/first-class "The first class compartment at the rear of Thameslink trains is always declassified." :)

  • @KempSimon

    @KempSimon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much indeed for this useful information! I wish I'd known this before I travelled all the way from Gatwick Airport to Cambridge in Standard Class accommodation in a Class 700!

  • @smcastillo7404
    @smcastillo74044 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dylan! Great report today! Wow! What an impressive station the London - St. Pancras is! Aside from the seats, the train looks pretty good! Open, with lots of natural light coming in. I'll be honest, seeing this review makes want to visit even more now, especially since my trip to the UK to watch Wimbledon had to be cancelled due to the pandemic! 😡 I was flying in and out of Gatwick and was planning on taking the Thameslink. Here's hoping for Wimbledon 2021! 🤞🏻I'll be sure to continue tuning in to your Travel Reports until then 🙂. Thanks for sharing another informative report Dylan! Looking forward to next Friday's report!

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Honestly, if they'd put better seats in these trains, they'd be perfect as commuter trains go.

  • @michaelscott7166

    @michaelscott7166

    4 жыл бұрын

    The first time I set foot inside St Pancras I was genuinely blown away by just how stunning it was.

  • @alexstrains903
    @alexstrains9034 жыл бұрын

    About the seats, being a local for Thameslink services, In used to the ironing boards. Wierdly, they don’t bother me very much

  • @1BarnetTE.

    @1BarnetTE.

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think its cus people like me and you are used to sitting on em' lol

  • @Frenzy.64

    @Frenzy.64

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m also used to the “Ironing board” seats; I don’t think they feel like one

  • @elisabethj.v.beardsell9853
    @elisabethj.v.beardsell98539 ай бұрын

    This station is really quite stunning and I love it! An amazing building and everything to go with it! I just love the adventure of traveling Home & Away. You never know who you will meet !! Romances can begin on trains❤

  • @henroy7877
    @henroy78774 жыл бұрын

    Keep up the good content mate it's lovely to see! No need for commentary when the content is as good as this.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, will do!

  • @goodi2shooz
    @goodi2shooz4 жыл бұрын

    St. Pancras is beautiful! We have seats like that on our local buses and it's definitely no fun to ride for any length of time. I suppose as you said it's a matter of what your priorities are for the journey. Another great video, thank you sir !

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! St Pancras is the most beautiful station in the UK imo. Shame about the seats though.

  • @officialmcdeath
    @officialmcdeath4 жыл бұрын

    The secret extra that comes with the declassified 1st Class at the rear is the reduced draught - it's rather blowy in the main accommodation, thanks to the open plan layout \m/

  • @davidellis6359
    @davidellis63594 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful report!!!! Most trains now have those seats.... which is horrible but it is ok for a ride no more than 45 minutes. Look forwards to see your next vid!!

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 😁

  • @gnhansen29
    @gnhansen293 жыл бұрын

    When I visited London one the best rail trip I did was the Thameslink as I got to see all the historic buildings.

  • @thedumgamer2046
    @thedumgamer20464 жыл бұрын

    I travel between london and south croydon, and catch these trains quite a lot from school, and here are a few things to take note of: Ironboard seats and poor legroom because its a commuter train, during the rush hour these are packed to the brim and overflowing... First class at the back is declassified, so you could have gone there where there are power sockets. You also missed out the SE Highspeed platforms at st pancreas (Which are also under the canopy but you need to go up from downstairs to get there) Your also lucky your train was ontime, there are usually delays, especially at the selhurst triangle (the big junction before east Croydon) Clapham junction is actually the second busiest station in the UK, which is just up the line towards victoria from east Croydon... I usually commute from there, although I catch 700s for the short hop between East and South croydon. The funny thing about the wifi is that it's upload speed is faster than the one I have at home... And, if you travel in the rush hour, the seats wont be a problem as there are none available! Best thing is, apart from the super overpriced Gatwick express also equipped with iron board seats, and Southern rail which is the same franchise but more delayed, this the only way there! Great video, but its a completely different story in the rush hours!

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Ik right, at rush hour, you're lucky if you even have breathing room 😂

  • @tammyjc15
    @tammyjc154 жыл бұрын

    I remember similar seats on the class 158 trains that Scotrail used to run, they were rock hard too

  • @golledgestravels326
    @golledgestravels3263 жыл бұрын

    I like the displays on Thameslink showing the carriages and numbers, where toilets are situate and if they are working, vacant or out of service plus of course the route and stations.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    3 жыл бұрын

    Other than the seats, they are very well thought out trains imo.

  • @dtvfan24
    @dtvfan244 жыл бұрын

    thanks for this review. i am missing travelling on thameslink and sadly my station 8:10 ECR is one to be avoid due to covid19 situation. I remember the old london bridge, it as so dark even in morning. the new London Bridge is so lovely despite being a bit cold in the winter

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! I think we're all missing getting the train. Shouldn't be too long now though.

  • @dobbinism
    @dobbinism4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dylan. Generally speaking I find these trains are a welcome improvement to the Thameslink service, the walk-through layout making it so much easier to locate a seat at busy times. On a personal level, I've found seat comfort acceptable for a journey duration of around 30 to 40 minutes but anything longer could leave you with numb-bum syndrome as experienced on a journey from Letchworth to Gatwick last year. A serious oversight is the lack of provision for phone charging, a rather strange omission by GTR, seeing as we are all reliant on mobile devices. I hope there is a plan to add these in the near future.

  • @melvin_eats
    @melvin_eats4 жыл бұрын

    Seats look hard! Might as well bring a cushion with you whenever you go on a journey.

  • @Ethanpick
    @Ethanpick4 жыл бұрын

    Love the fact how as you left the station a inspector sands alarm goes off

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was going off quite a bit while I was there.

  • @therealchayd
    @therealchayd2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to those evil seats, I will deliberately avoid taking the train to London whenever possible. It's a shame because in other respects class 700 trains aren't all that bad, I really miss the comfy class 365s that they replaced.

  • @kentcountryside10
    @kentcountryside104 жыл бұрын

    Great video Dylan🙆

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @Marks_Trains
    @Marks_Trains3 жыл бұрын

    I travelled all the way from Peterborough to East Croydon on one of these (and even further on the way back) and I have to say I did not have a problem with the seats - although southbound I did take advantage of the declassified 1st Class seats but I travelled in the Standard seat northbound. They are firm, but if thew shape is right (and it is right for me) the firmness is fine.

  • @CameronLandels
    @CameronLandels4 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I recently travelled on the TL to Horsham. A little tip - Standard class ticket holders are permitted to sit in the first class section at the back of the train. :-)

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I wish I'd known that when I travelled 😭

  • @aidenstanley7305

    @aidenstanley7305

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dylan's Travel Reports just make sure you keep an eye on the information board until it's cycled through once, it tells you if it's first class tickets or declassified :)

  • @KempSimon

    @KempSimon

    4 жыл бұрын

    But there's still a yellow stripe painted at cantrail level on the outside of the train, which is the internationally-accepted definition of First Class accommodation, over the First Class sections at both the front and the rear! And the timetable for that route - which is a legal document admissible in court - can presumably only show whether the whole train is, or is not, classified! I'd better check this out for when I can travel again for leisure purposes!

  • @theexcaliburone5933
    @theexcaliburone59332 жыл бұрын

    props to you for using the word 'alight'

  • @BarneyLeith
    @BarneyLeith4 жыл бұрын

    I've travelled in these units a lot, into King's X and through St Pancras. I'm quite tall and the legroom is completely inadequate in the aircraft layout, so I try to sit in one of the group-of-four seats. I find the seats uncomfortable, and the ride of the units always seems rough and jiggly to me. However, I really like the units otherwise. The openness of a walk-through train is great and they are so much better than their various predecessor units.

  • @mikey6879
    @mikey68794 жыл бұрын

    You can link your railcard to your oyster card and take advantage of 1/3 off the oyster fare. I showed up to the ticket office with my rail and Oyster cards, asked them to be linked and it was done in 60 seconds 👍

  • @stewartbrodie1720

    @stewartbrodie1720

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is true, but be aware that this doesn't work with Network Cards :-(

  • @NiTransportVideos
    @NiTransportVideos4 жыл бұрын

    Great video, love the 7000s.🙂

  • @DavidChilson
    @DavidChilson4 жыл бұрын

    From my experience, the Thameslink train I took last year had a really smooth ride (comparable to ScotRail's Class385 Express sets) so that probably compensated for how hard the seats were. One other thing I like about these 700s is that I didn't feel the air pressure change when going through tunnels.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    The lack of air pressure change is probably due to the fact that there's not doors to separate the coaches. Come to think of it, I don't think I noticed it either.

  • @Mgameing123

    @Mgameing123

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DylansTravelReports same thing happens on the S stock

  • @penninetrains1398
    @penninetrains13984 жыл бұрын

    Another excellent review as usual Dylan. I fully agree with you about the awful 'ironing board' seats....they're getting everywhere nowadays - ScotRail 385s, Northern 195s and 331s, etc. I have to take issue with you about the Shard being the tallest building in Britain though. It's actually the second tallest....the tallest being the 320 metre Emley Moor television tower in West Yorkshire.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Idk why they keep on putting these seats in trains. As much as I'd like to claim Emley More Television Tower as the tallest building in the UK (given it's in my native West Yorkshire) it's not classed as a building but rather only gets classed as a free standing structure. As you correctly say though, it does beat the Shard on the list of tallest free standing structures in the UK.

  • @thetelephoneprankster4254
    @thetelephoneprankster42544 жыл бұрын

    Whaaat? No mention at all of Southeastern services also serving this station despite Eurostar using HS1 too . It is not only EMR and Thameslink.

  • @jayusa879
    @jayusa8794 жыл бұрын

    That station was awesome and massive. The hard seats, well you get what you pay for and that looked like a pretty cheap ticket. I think the seats are made for heavy use so they are constructed to be durable. They looked like they were in pretty good shape not worn or frayed. Great video thanks Dylan.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! On a per mile basis, it's not the cheapest trip in the country. Then again, at peak hours, you're lucky if you get a seat at all.

  • @grassytramtracks

    @grassytramtracks

    10 ай бұрын

    It's not any cheaper per mile than other journeys, and people without a railcard discount still get the same horrid seats

  • @ianhelps3749
    @ianhelps37494 жыл бұрын

    I have done a few trips from Gatwick to London on these trains. Seats are rather hard, but you can always bring your own cushion. With 12 carriages at least there's plenty of capacity. One thing missing is a buffet car or trolley service. That would be nice, given that some long routes are operated. In the 1980s the Brighton line had 4-CIG units. These were more comfortable and had a buffet car.

  • @dodahspeak

    @dodahspeak

    2 жыл бұрын

    Trouble is if you take a cushion you have to carry it around with you all day ....

  • @sherlocksteve9109
    @sherlocksteve91094 жыл бұрын

    Indeed, I would have called those ironing board seats The COMMUTER TORTURE SEATS!! However, I did like the Thameslink train. I would have enjoyed the Virginia Railway Express more often if they designed their train that way. My short time in the St. Paul/Minneopolis, MN which had a commuter train there, has very nice seats as well. I don't know now because it was 2005 when I saw them the first time. Safe travels, my friend.

  • @s125ish
    @s125ish4 жыл бұрын

    I find these seats ok for short journeys . I think when I went to Gatwick I had a zone 1 to 6 , I then bought a ticket from Croydon to Gatwick.

  • @naturallyherb
    @naturallyherb4 жыл бұрын

    I'm from Canada, and I've seen worse seats. The intercity trains that run from Toronto to Montreal have very hard seats (I think they're even harder than Thameslink seats) but even worse there is some kind of plastic covering which means it's very hard to breathe, meaning a sticky ride on hot days.

  • @Scottish_Transport_Explorer

    @Scottish_Transport_Explorer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah and Seats on the New York Subway trains is just as bad

  • @Parallel395
    @Parallel3954 жыл бұрын

    Great video, I think the facilities and ambience offered inside these trains is not bad but I agree about the ironing board seats. Hope to see you review some more GWR and Transport for Wales stock in the future!

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I've got a review of GWR coming soon. As for TfW, that'll have to wait until after lock down.

  • @maimadha

    @maimadha

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@DylansTravelReports as you mentioned GWR and TFW can you do more trip reports on those Train Operaterating Companies?

  • @lorijohnston4311
    @lorijohnston43114 жыл бұрын

    Seems like the seats might be okay for short journeys -- maybe 30 minutes or less but certainly not for longer. Like you, I liked the wide open carriages. I love St. Pancras, such a lovely station. Thanks for the video, Dylan!

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome 😁

  • @grassytramtracks

    @grassytramtracks

    10 ай бұрын

    They don't look fun for the 2 and a half hours it takes to go from Brighton to Cambridge or Bedford or the three hours from Horsham to Peterborough (although it's quicker to use faster trains for that journey)

  • @bentyson4322
    @bentyson43224 жыл бұрын

    One thing to note about these trains, is when Thameslink were in the market to upgrade their fleet of 319’s and 377’s, they are the only company to go through the core of London, so the idea of the 700s feeling wide and spacious was the intended target, to allow more people to Travel on peak time trains. I agree thoUgh the seats aren’t the best but being a local I’m used to them. But these trains are certainly an upgrade from the old 319’s. Great trip report 👍

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 😁

  • @Scottish_Transport_Explorer

    @Scottish_Transport_Explorer

    3 жыл бұрын

    319s may be old but they are more comfortable

  • @VoilaBarti
    @VoilaBarti3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve just saw that TFL added Thameslink to the tube map so I decided to rewatch it 😅

  • @michaelformaini7053
    @michaelformaini70533 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dylan. Definition of masochism would be to endure one of these seats all the way from Bedford or Peterborough to Gatwick Airport. On my last day in the UK two years ago, I was fortunate only to have to travel one stop from Three Bridges on a 700. Nice train, shame about the seats. I see someone else from downunder having a go at seats on regional services here in Victoria. Must have been thinking about the seats on the now-withdrawn Hitachi suburban units that plied the Melbourne Metro Area. Keep up the good work.

  • @bb9800
    @bb98003 жыл бұрын

    I am somewhat new to your channel and really like it. Have been going over the older trips. I notice that you sometimes seem to use a 3 axis stabilizer can you say which one you like

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I used to use the iSteady Pro 2 but since getting a Gopro Hero 8, it isn't compatible and, tbh, there's no real need.

  • @TalkingPlanning
    @TalkingPlanning3 жыл бұрын

    The seats remind me of the seats on Queensland Rail New Generation Rollingstock, but without a tray table.

  • @herrypurnomo1226
    @herrypurnomo12264 жыл бұрын

    Lovely video Dylan good jobs, Croydon The Willy Walkers homeland.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 😁

  • @danjsy
    @danjsy4 жыл бұрын

    I'm 6'5" and can only fit in a few of the seats - like buses in Asia ! Great service though, and the stations tell you which is the quickest service to Gatwick.

  • @timdiggle5090
    @timdiggle50904 жыл бұрын

    Thameslink is also an excellent way of getting from the north (my home) from Leeds to Redhill (family home) or Gatwick avoiding the hassle of hauling luggage around central London or the tube. LNER to Stevenage then simply stroll the 5 metres from Platform 2 (LNER arrival) to 1 (Thameslink southbound departure) and stay on the train through the city, and The City, via the tunnels without any further changes!

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Will have to bear that one in mind the next time I come at London from the north. I never thought of changing at Stevenage as opposed to Kings Cross. What a great idea!

  • @joesimpson3283
    @joesimpson32834 жыл бұрын

    You can add your railcard to your Oyster if you didn’t already know - you have to ask staff at a tube station and they do it on one of the ticket machines. Saves a lot of time and paper!

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Someone else was telling me that. I'll have to order an oyster card and add my railcard to it.

  • @deezbaconz1373
    @deezbaconz13733 жыл бұрын

    Nice! These run on my area, on the MML along with EMR, and I wish those seats were comfier! Bring back the 319s XD Would you mind if I used parts of this video on my audio series, for background sfx?

  • @TheDancingGamer01
    @TheDancingGamer014 жыл бұрын

    I have been on them before and have to say, Sitting on a pile of thumbtacks will be more comfortable. You should try out Northern's class 158/195/331 in the future, Apparently they have the same seats but more paddings and overall better than Thameslink ones.

  • @MotokoTai
    @MotokoTai4 жыл бұрын

    If your on the inside seat the support will block your legs if you stretch them out , also over a long journey you shuffle around for comfortability , tbh anything is better than the 319s they were finished

  • @partyentertains4092

    @partyentertains4092

    3 жыл бұрын

    I knew you'd mention the 319's. Nobody likes them. No wonder Northern Trains (in particular) and LNWR are binning them. Don't miss those trains at all not one tiny bit lol. 🤣🤣

  • @vijaysonawane8431
    @vijaysonawane84314 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video sir carry on

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @peterhewett7401
    @peterhewett74013 жыл бұрын

    As someone who lives in Sussex I frequent these trains quite a bit, unfortunately. I usually try and get the seat in front of the toilet (by the luggage rack), you get a decent bit of legroom. Although as of late I have been sneaking into 1st class as they are slightly more comfortable with a body shape in the seating.

  • @Mgameing123

    @Mgameing123

    2 жыл бұрын

    u know that at the back the first class is declasified meaning its technically standard class. id tell ya to take advantage of that

  • @peterhewett7401

    @peterhewett7401

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mgameing123 Have noticed this for a while, although thanks for the tip anyway! Shame some others have cottoned on too 😄

  • @sabryepa5226
    @sabryepa52263 жыл бұрын

    The ironing boards we all know and love😉

  • @Steve-xf4uv
    @Steve-xf4uv4 жыл бұрын

    The inside of those cars even the seats look a lot like Montreal's new subway cars. Seats are not comfortable but easy to clean and rugged. No one is more than an hour on the train anyway, seems ok to me. Thanks Dylan stay safe and 'till next week.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I guess a lot of people on these trains are only on them for an hour or so. Honestly, at peak hours you're lucky to have a seat at all though.

  • @kadenfoley3514

    @kadenfoley3514

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wish that was true, once I was sat on those awful seats for two hours

  • @athvikvicky8479
    @athvikvicky84794 жыл бұрын

    nice short journey

  • @finmilow2706
    @finmilow27064 жыл бұрын

    And the seat moquette is very nice

  • @shaneD7378
    @shaneD73783 жыл бұрын

    My hack for riding these trains is use the back 1st class seats to the rear of the train from the direction of travel as these are declassified meaning you can sit there for the price of the standard class ticket

  • @andrewmarsden1970
    @andrewmarsden19703 жыл бұрын

    12.03.20 - The day before my last normal commute on Thameslink. 13 months later, perhaps travel to London will return to normality soon. I find those seats OK. Better than the seats 10 years ago on Thameslink. Sometimes the cushion moved or a spring twanged when you sat down.

  • @nigel2093
    @nigel20932 жыл бұрын

    The seats are designed that way for fire resistance. Because the trains are in the tunnel section from St Pancras to Blackfriars they need to give adequate fire protection as there are no interconnecting doors between carriages to contain a fire. They are bloody uncomfortable though.

  • @brycebradshaw1749
    @brycebradshaw17494 жыл бұрын

    Can you review Metrolink (CA) and Pacific Surfliner?

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully next time I'm in LA.

  • @Perich29
    @Perich294 жыл бұрын

    this is cool, New York and Chicago needs to get a fleet of these trainsets.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    So long as the equip them with different seats, they'd be great.

  • @geoffreycoan
    @geoffreycoan4 жыл бұрын

    I commuted several times a week from Biggleswade to Croydon for nearly a year before the lock down, never found the seats too bad. The Wi-fi is welcome and free. First class has better tables and has the missing power sockets, not sure the seats are any different. You should have compared the price for travelling thameslink to Southern or Gatwick express - which is cheaper, which is quicker ?

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thameslink and Southern are pretty much the same price with the Gatwick Express being about £20.

  • @stevecooksley
    @stevecooksley4 жыл бұрын

    I've only taken this train once for an hour's journey and the seats aren't as bad as they look. The ergonomics of the train more than make up for it. A good commuter train.

  • @johnnyboy3949
    @johnnyboy39493 жыл бұрын

    Remeber the rear first class cabin is declassified I believe!

  • @EthanAfro707
    @EthanAfro7074 жыл бұрын

    Remember Dylhan 1st *Class at the back is declassified

  • @Jmcd1986

    @Jmcd1986

    3 жыл бұрын

    The seats are still awful in 1st on Class 700's.

  • @ajf3202

    @ajf3202

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Jmcd1986 not as bad as standard tho

  • @boringfunny2767

    @boringfunny2767

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤫

  • @tee.f.n
    @tee.f.n4 жыл бұрын

    I use these trains everyday on my commute and they are a Godsend. The seats really aren’t that bad, I just find the space between seats lacking, so I sit in the priority seats with extra legroom. During the summer these trains are like a fridge so that’s an added bonus. Thank you for your videos!

  • @deanplaystv5068
    @deanplaystv50684 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video mate how much does it cost for a return from St Pancras to Gatwick Airport as I watched when you got your ticket it looked like a one way ticket.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! It's £21.70 or £14.35 with a railcard for a return on the day.

  • @deanplaystv5068

    @deanplaystv5068

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DylansTravelReports fantastic thank you and you just got yourself a new subscriber

  • @hi-viz
    @hi-viz4 жыл бұрын

    I dunno if I have an iron backside or what but I've never had issues with these seats.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're just very lucky lol

  • @northeasterntransport3289
    @northeasterntransport32894 жыл бұрын

    I’m still annoyed to this day that the only time I’ve managed to use thameslink is when LNER terminated my train early at Peterborough but that’s meant it was packed and standing all the way to St. Pancras, but thank you very much for this video as I can now see I didn’t miss much 😂

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    You'd have probably been more comfortable standing 😂

  • @northeasterntransport3289

    @northeasterntransport3289

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dylan's Travel Reports thankfully I had a very comfy suitcase and a large stack of irn bru 😂😂

  • @skyediann3399
    @skyediann33994 жыл бұрын

    I've been commuting from East Croydon to Gatwick and back to go to work for the best part of a year now, previously I commuted from East Croydon to Redhill aswell back when I was in college, I had, and still do have my fair share of Thameslink trains. I honestly don't see the fuss, they're definitely not as comfy as Southern's 377's, but they're not bad.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not too bad for a shorter journey maybe. Wouldn't want to spend much more than an hour on one though.

  • @aw2m
    @aw2m4 жыл бұрын

    The St Pancras underground station reminds me of me visiting London 2 years ago. I used to visit one of my friends, and believe it or not, i still exactly know the route!

  • @paulwhitear4983
    @paulwhitear49833 жыл бұрын

    I travel on Thames link. From Sevenoaks to Denmark Hill. It take about 50 minutes. That's long enough sitting on those seats.

  • @ianmcclavin
    @ianmcclavin2 жыл бұрын

    I agree about the "ironing board" description of the seats. It's a real pity that having at last got these through routes (e.g. Cambridge to Brighton Peterborough to Horsham) up and running that they have to be run by these uncomfortable units especially as performance wise (speed, info display etc) they appear to be excellent ..Many Northerners complained about receiving Thameslink's cast-offs for their services but I'd be glad to have the 319's back any day (not that that would happen now). Also I'd like to know why they only have the phone charging sockets in first class, whereas the similarly designed 707's and 717's have them at every seat.

  • @reyescortez7298
    @reyescortez72984 жыл бұрын

    I would like to known if there is immigration chek the trains?

  • @reyescortez7298

    @reyescortez7298

    4 жыл бұрын

    Can someone tell me

  • @erikkrauss8481
    @erikkrauss84814 жыл бұрын

    If you ever go to the US again, try come of the commuter rails, Marc between Baltimore and DC is nice. Good video

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was planning stuff like that for next time I'm in the US 😁

  • @erikkrauss8481

    @erikkrauss8481

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DylansTravelReports awesome!

  • @laurenceskinnerton73
    @laurenceskinnerton7310 ай бұрын

    I use this route all the time.

  • @matthewalbery8827
    @matthewalbery88274 жыл бұрын

    You said that everything on the train was in working order but there was a sign on the lavatory in the first shots saying 'out of order' also doesn't the audible 'doors activated' alert go through you? sounds like it might be trying to imitate a bell but doing it really badly. Seriously, not even usb in the carriage ends?

  • @utaamtrak9584
    @utaamtrak95844 жыл бұрын

    Great video! There are plugs at some seats.

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! The only plugs at seats are in first class.

  • @utaamtrak9584

    @utaamtrak9584

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DylansTravelReports Good to know

  • @gamingstudio9949
    @gamingstudio99494 жыл бұрын

    Nice video

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 😁

  • @jamielnash5049
    @jamielnash50494 жыл бұрын

    What is next week's video and what's your fave train

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    I will reveal my video for next week on Thursday. My favourite train is probably the N700 Shinkansen

  • @jamielnash5049

    @jamielnash5049

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DylansTravelReports ok mine are the class 395 class 90 and class 444

  • @jamielnash5049

    @jamielnash5049

    4 жыл бұрын

    I meant what's your fave UK train

  • @AviationRailAdventures
    @AviationRailAdventures4 жыл бұрын

    The ironing board seats do make me laugh! 😂

  • @KempSimon

    @KempSimon

    4 жыл бұрын

    They make me want to cry. Or scream with frustration!

  • @NaenaeGaming

    @NaenaeGaming

    4 жыл бұрын

    Simon Kemp Welp, rather only need to sit in them for a few minutes rather than a few hours. Azumas anyone?

  • @benjamintery7847

    @benjamintery7847

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well they don't make me laugh at all. Weird.

  • @TheArkamedBat

    @TheArkamedBat

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NaenaeGaming No Azuma.#HST4EVER

  • @colin.d
    @colin.d4 жыл бұрын

    Of course there's the Gatwick Express if time is pressing (and cost isn't)

  • @DylansTravelReports

    @DylansTravelReports

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tbh, I don't really see the point in the Gatwick Express (unless the 15 mins ot saves is going to be the difference between you missing your flight and you making your flight) other than to make money out of tourists and people travelling on their company's money.

  • @court692able
    @court692able4 жыл бұрын

    I find these seats to feel a lot more sturdy and comfortable than seats on other trains - at least the class 707s have power sockets at all seats

  • @Scottish_Transport_Explorer

    @Scottish_Transport_Explorer

    3 жыл бұрын

    True but they well never be more comfortable then the trains that they replace like the class 319s and the class 365s

  • @Mgameing123

    @Mgameing123

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Scottish_Transport_Explorer ye

  • @Chanemus
    @Chanemus3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like when compared to other rolling stock on the London-Brighton Line (southern's electrostars) these seats really aren't that bad. It's a commuter train that, before covid, would usually have standing room only from well before the train reached Gatwick. Maximising space is critical. Also pro tip, the priority seats have a bit more legroom so go for those as long as no one else need them.

  • @grassytramtracks

    @grassytramtracks

    10 ай бұрын

    These things go on long journeys, and there will always be a few people that are doing them, Cambridge to Brighton takes two and a half hours and is over 100 miles