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TFS: The Smallest Welder EVER! Will it TIG?

A really awesome viewer wrote in asking about a specific welding machine and Justin couldn't resist buying it. This is the smallest welding machine we have ever used here at TFS and it is rather surprising. Does it work? Watch to find out!
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  • @TheFabricatorSeries
    @TheFabricatorSeries6 жыл бұрын

    👇👇Here is the link to the Mini MMA-250 👇👇 amzn.to/2scNeDb Other Tools & Gear We Use and Recommend www.amazon.com/shop/thefabricationseries

  • @normanparker2103

    @normanparker2103

    6 жыл бұрын

    Should've tried reading the description it's not 250 is 160

  • @TheFabricatorSeries

    @TheFabricatorSeries

    6 жыл бұрын

    Norman Parker The description was actually changed after this video (see other comments talking about it) Other ads still say 250. It's also not even 160 amps. It's probably not even 125.

  • @jimme8499

    @jimme8499

    6 жыл бұрын

    The welder welds well. You can also get it to tig. Does what it should . Small , light good looking. But you cant recomend it because it might pack up ?

  • @TheFabricatorSeries

    @TheFabricatorSeries

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mind Freshener It was running on 220v, not 110. It's a 220v machine.

  • @v8trauma

    @v8trauma

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well I just looked, 98.90 for the machine. Delivery? Oh that's a cool 100.99 to the UK. I think I'll pass if its all the same to you. By the time I've put import duty and VAT on top, I'm too close to 300 for comfort.

  • @eyeballengineering7007
    @eyeballengineering70075 жыл бұрын

    I actually used a similar arc welder to rebuild a steel sailboat in the caribbean off of a generator while sitting in the water. One thing I can say, is it fits in your luggage, burns 3/32 great, and it works with the amperage turned way up. It was perfect for what we needed it for.

  • @kayakuprising5914

    @kayakuprising5914

    Жыл бұрын

    This is what I'm saying!

  • @dirtnap3073
    @dirtnap30735 жыл бұрын

    A mini fridge won't hold a keg but you can still get a cold beer out of it!😁

  • @bryanbreton1188

    @bryanbreton1188

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dam that statement is legit.

  • @bdc211

    @bdc211

    3 жыл бұрын

    right!!

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Dirt Nap307 you can definitely fit a keg in a mini fridge. You just have to modify it.

  • @GrizzG13

    @GrizzG13

    3 жыл бұрын

    All we really need is a drill, some duct tape, copper pipe, and a hammer. We'll just turn it in to an induction cooler and pull that keg through it one beer at a time.

  • @bigclivedotcom
    @bigclivedotcom3 жыл бұрын

    The half current thing seems common with these. I wish they'd just rate it as what it is. It still has use as a 100A welder.

  • @chillix0395

    @chillix0395

    3 жыл бұрын

    Would love for you to tear one apart! They seem great, but i agree on the current thing. The companies are just trying to outdo themselves

  • @eshneto

    @eshneto

    3 жыл бұрын

    It even can TIG. And yes, all of these use 1/2A as unit. I see this and similar others as a good deal for the hobbyst.

  • @oldwrench4213

    @oldwrench4213

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree. Works great on sheet metal. Wasn't meant to be a shop welder. Good for around the house/hobbyists stuff.

  • @jenkinssthomson8879

    @jenkinssthomson8879

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good to keep in my truck. Gotten myself out of a bind before with that and a generator. So it has uses; not every welds day in and day out.

  • @bratecyo

    @bratecyo

    3 жыл бұрын

    chinese amps, to get real divide by 2 or 3

  • @hustleeveryday5852
    @hustleeveryday58525 жыл бұрын

    To someone like you it may be novel and not work for long, but to the DIY person that just needs to do a quick light weld, without a lot of room in their garage it would be perfect!

  • @brandysigmon9066

    @brandysigmon9066

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, for $100 and no more than I would use it that little welder is just right. I don't weld anything that I need more than 125 amps anyway. You can weld thick steel with that if you do some beveling and pre-heat and prep.

  • @jeffreymoffitt4070

    @jeffreymoffitt4070

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's exactly what I need! I'm about to embark on learning to Tig and I'd rather not spend $1000 just to learn.

  • @njones420

    @njones420

    5 жыл бұрын

    works perfectly for me, gets a brief usage maybe once every couple of months...

  • @TheLexiconDevils

    @TheLexiconDevils

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep that’s why I got one. I had NO idea they were so small before seeing them on the shelf 😂 it wasn’t $98 but it wasn’t $980 either. Works great and it’s a WELDER that takes up about as much space in the toolbox as a good soldering station

  • @charliejeans2413

    @charliejeans2413

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheLexiconDevils you can make your own with 2 power supplies from a micro wave oven and some heavy wire to replace the coils. These welders are really simple, best part, confined spacers,, up on the roof or ladder. Too easy. Sling it over shoulder and away you go. I used one to build a 20ft trailor, magic to get overhead or underneath. Don't even get tired carrying it around.

  • @1hjehje
    @1hjehje4 жыл бұрын

    It seems to be pretty good for the money. It would be great for light duty / hobby use. I was quite impressed that it didn't go up in smoke during your 12 burnt rod test in a very hot room. Definitely a thumbs up from me. Thank you for the video!

  • @WineScrounger
    @WineScrounger5 жыл бұрын

    I’ve got one similar in my repair van, it takes up so little space and weight but it welds brilliantly.

  • @cougar7n10
    @cougar7n106 жыл бұрын

    You know what they say about a guy with a big phone and big hands don't ya? He has a tiny welder.

  • @binnsbrian

    @binnsbrian

    6 жыл бұрын

    --cLAsic-- Quick wit. That was good.

  • @gregkral4467

    @gregkral4467

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hahaa, it's about weld penetration, don't know if that one will do it....

  • @txrick4879

    @txrick4879

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol low amperage.

  • @johnlacambra6004

    @johnlacambra6004

    5 жыл бұрын

    Remember it's not the size of the fabricators welder, but how he lays a bead with all the amperage he's got.

  • @craig853

    @craig853

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're right. He has one of the smallest welders I've ever seen. And he made sure we knew how big his hands are. My guess is he drives a monster truck too. Yes, I'd say he has a very, very small welder indeed.

  • @alananderson5202
    @alananderson52024 жыл бұрын

    My Dad's old stick welder was plug n play to change settings. Before that it was a forge, hammer, anvil, and tongs (that he made himself). A little machine like that would have been a miracle in those days. We're very spoiled.

  • @Mynameisbraulio
    @Mynameisbraulio6 жыл бұрын

    From Dominican Republic, I'm going to the welding school and u can say that you have help me more than my school for sure. Thank you!

  • @redbugg99

    @redbugg99

    6 жыл бұрын

    El Nigel thank you I really think he was an ass.

  • @Mynameisbraulio

    @Mynameisbraulio

    6 жыл бұрын

    magaiver everyone has a personality, I take the good things I think he a badass

  • @VictorRodriguez-cg1kg

    @VictorRodriguez-cg1kg

    6 жыл бұрын

    A cual?

  • @Mynameisbraulio

    @Mynameisbraulio

    6 жыл бұрын

    Victor Rodriguez. Infotep

  • @redbugg99

    @redbugg99

    6 жыл бұрын

    El Nigel I'm sure I'm only 5% of what he know in knowledge and practice but I dont have to be a pro to see a person with bias review ... a novelty was in his mind from the get go. Again why he did not show the weld or test the quality of the weld ... was it good enough.... will never know.

  • @DANTHETUBEMAN
    @DANTHETUBEMAN5 жыл бұрын

    if you had to take your welder, climb a tower, plug in up there and weld something, you might grab this welder.

  • @D1cko888
    @D1cko8886 жыл бұрын

    I could see this being super useful in my line of work. We do a lot of breakdown work on coal wash plants and draglines. A lot of the repairs are to guards and handrails that have cracked from vibration. I’d rather have one of these in my tool bag than carry my tools and another case with a larger caddy welder. Our welders don’t last very long anyway with all the water and dust so the company buys el-cheapo machines for us so I’d happily give one of these a go.

  • @TheFabricatorSeries

    @TheFabricatorSeries

    6 жыл бұрын

    ItsDicko Look into the Fronius Accupocket. It's perfect for just that type of work including the dust and water. Mine goes with me everywhere.

  • @D1cko888

    @D1cko888

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Fabrication Series we’ve looked into them, but they’re a lot bigger than most caddys on the local market, and they didn’t last long enough to justify the massive cost of them.

  • @markfryer9880

    @markfryer9880

    6 жыл бұрын

    ItsDicko Well in your case it sounds like this machine would be ideal. You probably have good leads and just need the proper plug. I would suggest doing some tests yourself as to the quality of the welds. particularly for handrails, but it would definitely save you and your body from lugging around a heavy welder.

  • @insulglass

    @insulglass

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheFabricatorSeries Sweet Jesus, those are about $3000 list. Hardly comparable. You must be doing well off your KZread advertising bucks. :- )

  • @kaikart123

    @kaikart123

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@insulglass lmao, you could trashed 30 of this little things and it will weld so much more sticks than accupocket with its 17 minutes continuous use

  • @Shane-Singleton
    @Shane-Singleton6 жыл бұрын

    Due to it being so very small I could see having that as an emergency backup rig that doesn't take up a lot of space. Just as long as you didn't need to weld anything very thick. I'd also like to see some kind of exact current reading taken externally via a clamp meter or something. I'm really surprised that you had to give up before the machine did. that type of result on the stress test is actually pretty impressive. Obviously it's not a serious machine for a professional but I like it. I'm no welder though.

  • @J-Eagan
    @J-Eagan6 жыл бұрын

    Send it to someone like AVE, to tear it apart and look at its guts!

  • @weldingjunkie

    @weldingjunkie

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jack Eagan I think we can all tell the quality lol

  • @J-Eagan

    @J-Eagan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Welding Junkie yeah but I’m interested in it’s construction, do you get a switch mode power supply or a big transformer. Does it have decent protection circuitry or will it burn your house down as it overheats? Where did they cheap out on the board and components. For the price it might even make a decent power supply if you can hack it a little to adjust the voltage. Yeah it’s a piece of crap that won’t weld properly, but for its size and form factor it could have may potential uses, or at least be a better alternative than winding MOTs to do stick welding, provided that it’s safe.

  • @ratgreen

    @ratgreen

    6 жыл бұрын

    THIS

  • @matthewhoney2132

    @matthewhoney2132

    6 жыл бұрын

    I second that. Ave can see what it is actually putting out and maybe why

  • @greenthizzle4

    @greenthizzle4

    6 жыл бұрын

    Reno Simpson they both are cool, but Clive would do it better.

  • @jacketnipple
    @jacketnipple4 жыл бұрын

    125 amps for $100 in a tiny compact size that doesn't quit? That sounds like a damn good welder

  • @ibast1

    @ibast1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes I thought he was a bit harsh in his conclusion. Plus I've swapped out the adjustment pot in cheap machines before and they've proven fine.

  • @MusicVideoMakerPro

    @MusicVideoMakerPro

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Daniel Vazquez you'll get more amps when you sacrifice volts. Altering 120 volts AC to 50-60 volts DC(that's what these use on idle) you can crank up the amps. Not the most scientific way to say it put this is pretty much how it'll go. I bought similar thingy and i'm rather satisfied with it. I'm no pro nor i am going to use it to build a solid steel shed nor even weld rust holes shut on my car but use it on random small projects i have. For that small purpose these things are great.

  • @tandemwings4733

    @tandemwings4733

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its actually NOT good value. I've got one... You don't get ANY power plug or leads. By the time you buy the bits to make it work, it turns out dearer than buying a complete machine. Plus they are NOT very robust at all, mine dropped a blade off the cooling fan (a tiny little computer fan) the first time I used it, which necessitated a pull-down to replace. The seller wasn't interested in any warranty.

  • @DonHavjuan

    @DonHavjuan

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also they're only $50 on ebay.

  • @omprakashomprakashdewan7299

    @omprakashomprakashdewan7299

    3 жыл бұрын

    क्या कितनी कीमत है भारत में कहां मिलेगी बताएं धन्यवाद

  • @paulbosley6448
    @paulbosley64485 жыл бұрын

    I keep one in my Jeep. Works great. Not what you'd use in a shop all day but broke down on the trail in the middle of nowhere....

  • @gurjindersingh199

    @gurjindersingh199

    5 жыл бұрын

    Where do you get 240v broken down in the middle of nowhere ?

  • @paulbosley6448

    @paulbosley6448

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@gurjindersingh199 dual battery set up. Instructions are in the box.

  • @areyouundoingthatorwhat9181
    @areyouundoingthatorwhat91813 жыл бұрын

    I travelled to a job welding a trailer frame completely empty handed once on the promise of them having an arc welder on site,arrived to find what looked like like not much more than a battery charger of similar size to this thing which would weld for about two minutes before thermally tripping for five minutes,it wasn't frustrating!

  • @zytechnology
    @zytechnology5 жыл бұрын

    220 Vols needed :) And the Battery Clamp , there is no way this many amps will go trough .... Hook it up again ! Dont give up ! :) Dankeschoen !

  • @webosm6494
    @webosm64946 жыл бұрын

    125 Amps for 99 bucks sounds like a good deal to me. It reminds me of the 3000w stereo amplifiers and 6000w speakers. Marketing takes over often.

  • @chrisreinhardt5136

    @chrisreinhardt5136

    4 жыл бұрын

    Amps and speakers you had to read the fine print, they show the peak to peak output, which is more than double the RMS...

  • @MrRatkilr

    @MrRatkilr

    4 жыл бұрын

    I spent $200 for one that does 110 amps and that was 20 years ago. Still works to this day. Best $200 I ever spent. Unless you count that one trip to Reno.

  • @chrisreinhardt5136

    @chrisreinhardt5136

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MrRatkilr I bought a Maxstar 150 back in the day, just under $1000, made that money back first weekend I owned it at the race track...

  • @nlac73

    @nlac73

    2 жыл бұрын

    and the 10000mAh 18650 batteries that perfectly drive the 6000W stereos:)

  • @allymariachi9230

    @allymariachi9230

    Жыл бұрын

    I got one ,edon brand from china,same size but shoots out 350Amps, I used edon for years they are the best. I paid maybe equivalent of 50 for it.

  • @olivertaylor4779
    @olivertaylor47796 жыл бұрын

    See what the thinnest metal you can weld with it is, looks like you can turn the power down really low. It might arc weld less than 1mm metal, it could be useful if it works.

  • @freesaxon6835

    @freesaxon6835

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oliver Taylor true

  • @DanielCardei

    @DanielCardei

    6 жыл бұрын

    i`m welding with 18amp 1.3 and 1.6 all day. that will be interesting to see.

  • @blindabinda1234

    @blindabinda1234

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure this would be a great welder for someone that does like hobby rc rock crawler chassis and all kinds of other low amp projects. The 1/2 amp dial might even work to someone's advantage.

  • @henryrollins9177

    @henryrollins9177

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DanielCardei Thats on regular steel, isnt it?

  • @DanielCardei

    @DanielCardei

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@henryrollins9177 yep

  • @yannchevrier-foundy5063
    @yannchevrier-foundy50636 жыл бұрын

    That is the cutest fire hazard I have ever seen!!!!

  • @inezmickel1274

    @inezmickel1274

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cryingggggg 😂😂😂😂

  • @peterbrown172

    @peterbrown172

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cool comment! The operator burned out before it did though, even under a sweltering day! Just sayin,

  • @nikitanadein
    @nikitanadein6 жыл бұрын

    Seen even slightly smaller one at store. Was realistically rated 130amps and came complete with leads (really short),plug and warranty for price equal to near 50$. I'd say it can be really good for someone that has no welder at all and needs to fix a fence or something like that.

  • @redbugg99

    @redbugg99

    6 жыл бұрын

    Никита Надеин his review was not fair , actually he had his mind made up before he decided to make this video. I think it works just fine for thin metal. I wouldn't be surprised if it works with a 220 car power inverter too.

  • @DarkLinkAD

    @DarkLinkAD

    5 жыл бұрын

    What store?? You have a name of it?

  • @nigelkingsley-lewis534
    @nigelkingsley-lewis5346 жыл бұрын

    It would probably work better with 6013 rods as the open circuit voltage is rather low. Could be a useful bit of kit to keep on a service vehicle. I keep a little Italian machine that I purchased back in the mid to late 90's that is almost as small but only claims to run to 95 amps it does not have a meter on it but as I tend to drive a welder by feel that is of no import at all, I did check with a clamp meter and it tops out at 110 amps not the 95 claimed.

  • @CZ350tuner
    @CZ350tuner5 жыл бұрын

    I have a stick welder the size of a shoe box (smaller than your mini welder). I've had it for 20 years, paid £10 for it at a car boot sale, and it is the best stick welder I've worked with so far. I've taken it to motorcycle rallies, even welded up a broken cargo rack on someone's bike once. I've taken it to motorcycle rallies, even welded up a broken cargo rack on someone's bike once. Damn useful as a portable emergency carry with you welder. No internal amperage control, just a big external resistor spring with a plug in jumper U shaped rod. Great for welding tin cans together with a micro arc when alone without the need for a friend to operate the amperage control wheel if using a conventional full size welder. Pretty much start the arc on the thick starting plate and pull the jumper whilst steadily carrying the now micro arc over to the thin sheet metal. (I had a professional maritime welder demonstrate the trick by welding two tin cans open end to open end (without blowing a hole!!) whilst I operated the amperage control wheel on his stick welder way back in the early 1980's).

  • @Ritalie
    @Ritalie2 жыл бұрын

    Man, things have come a long way! They now sell a similar welder for $84, with the same beautiful case and an arc force adjustment, amperage adjustment, a copper ground clamp, 120v/220v plug adapters on the power cord.

  • @REPENTINCHRIST
    @REPENTINCHRIST5 жыл бұрын

    AMAZING space saver! This is Ideal if one likes to travel and Baja and your in the middle of knowwhere using generator or inverter power. It'll get the job done and you can transport it in a fanny pack!! SICK!

  • @wraith600original1

    @wraith600original1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly what i was thinking as well as those odd jobs at home

  • @haastyle661
    @haastyle6615 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of the old equalizer/amplifier for our car stereos back in the 80's 400 watts quadrophonic by Pyramid!

  • @THE_RAMALAMADINGDONG
    @THE_RAMALAMADINGDONG5 жыл бұрын

    I got one of those about a year ago ...been burning rods with it like crazy ever since ! It's even taken a 20 foot fall and the amp knob flew off somewhere but it still works lol !!!

  • @kevinm3751
    @kevinm37514 жыл бұрын

    What brought me to your channel is I am looking for something like this for my model building. So while not useful for the serious welder it appears to be a perfect fit for someone like me...;) Thanks for the review!

  • @crazypete3759
    @crazypete37595 жыл бұрын

    I would like to see you run some more sticks with a clamp meter measuring the amperage. also kind of curious to see the inside of it, especially after the torture test to see if any of the components look heat stressed or under rated.

  • @IAnolastname
    @IAnolastname5 жыл бұрын

    There is a valid use-case for this, for those of us with small shops but need a welder.

  • @shamaelbenshabbatai6398
    @shamaelbenshabbatai63985 жыл бұрын

    I use this welder, it has 125 Amps max, shows the double on digital readout. But, for a 125 Amp welder, it is the best I ever had, the arc force regulation in it is absolutely top notch. For the all day use, it is just the best for the buck you can get. Only issue I had, the internal low Voltage power supply blew away after just 6 month of use, So, keep it as a lovely gadget you use some times. I just bought my second one a few days ago, just for fun

  • @thzzzt
    @thzzzt5 жыл бұрын

    The way I understand it, there's a difference between duty cycle and thermal cut-out. Duty cycle is the mfgr suggestion so you don't eventually burn out the machine. SOME welders have a thermal cut out in case you forget about the duty cycle.

  • @angelojoson1736
    @angelojoson17365 жыл бұрын

    Just enough for home service repair gates and some repair steel stuff. Cheap light and good to travel for home service

  • @ricardomontes373
    @ricardomontes3734 жыл бұрын

    Have it there ready with some cheap cables and when a neighbor or friend wants to barrow your welder, this is the one you want to lend. I have a couple of Hobart machines (Stick Inverter and a MIG) and those I don’t lend. Instead, I do the welding for free. Thanks for the review and take care Justin.

  • @mds19238
    @mds192386 жыл бұрын

    First time viewer: subbed because there was no bs, no theatrics or drama and no "f" bombs. I'm not new to life or welding, just like to see new & potentially "interesting" things on you tube. Have a great day.

  • @esqueue
    @esqueue6 жыл бұрын

    LOL, Those eBay purchased turbos are no longer a good comparison. I remember when they would literally split is two, now I've seen some decent success stories from them. Good video either way.

  • @MerlinZener
    @MerlinZener6 жыл бұрын

    could you put a clamp meter on the output lead and measure how much it's *actually putting out?

  • @kevingallineauii9353

    @kevingallineauii9353

    6 жыл бұрын

    Merlin Zener my thoughts exactly.

  • @btrswt35

    @btrswt35

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same. Id rather see hard evidence of what exactly it is putting out than a guesstimate.

  • @shitbox7413

    @shitbox7413

    6 жыл бұрын

    Merlin Zener, Yep, inductive amp meter (amp clamp) would tell the tale exactly, I’m kinda surprised he didn’t do that in the video...

  • @jackking5567

    @jackking5567

    6 жыл бұрын

    Makes me wonder how he came to his conclusion. Something doesn't add up in the video. How does he know the current? How come it was fine with sticks and not good with tig? Surely the same? Personally I think he fried the circuit doing the stick test and once he went to tig the machine was already fried - shame he doesn't actually tell us more. For me I'm not subscribing. The channel is full of inaccuracies.

  • @chrisdick9860

    @chrisdick9860

    6 жыл бұрын

    Every video ive watched ive never seen any body put an amp clamp on the welding lead

  • @4seasonsbbq
    @4seasonsbbq6 жыл бұрын

    You hit it right on head in the beginning, it's so adorable you just want to hug it LOL. Love your videos so keep them coming.

  • @Swarfman64
    @Swarfman645 жыл бұрын

    I have the same machine , same low power problem until.......switch the rod polarity and its a whole new machine. I don't know if there marked wrong or if it has some funky output, but it will chew 1/8 rods and run larger no problems. If you still have it its worth a try.

  • @864Soull

    @864Soull

    5 жыл бұрын

    Swarfman64 what do you mean switch the rod polarity exactly?

  • @scottferguson1932
    @scottferguson19325 жыл бұрын

    Well, here's your problem. Those were METRIC amps! ;-)

  • @kooldoozer

    @kooldoozer

    5 жыл бұрын

    Amps, volts, and watts are METRIC units of measure. Always have been.

  • @jokeplay00

    @jokeplay00

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kooldoozer it was a joke.

  • @Willeexd1337

    @Willeexd1337

    5 жыл бұрын

    r/woooosh

  • @shenghan9385

    @shenghan9385

    5 жыл бұрын

    Right. Very funny

  • @user-yg2up4lg3r

    @user-yg2up4lg3r

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kooldoozer r/overyourhead

  • @brandontweedly3212
    @brandontweedly32125 жыл бұрын

    Hey man just watched this video and realised what the issue is straight away, your running it at half volts being that your in the states 120v mains so amps need to be double to compensate, here in aus being 240v mains the amps would read a little low because the machine is rated for 220v input. Nothing wrong with the machine but you will kill it running it at half it’s required volts like trying to run an 18v drill with a 9v battery

  • @TheFabricatorSeries

    @TheFabricatorSeries

    5 жыл бұрын

    You must have skipped the part where I added a 240v plug and said it's on 240v input.

  • @Robon2ndShift

    @Robon2ndShift

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheFabricatorSeries this guy is right.. that is your problem. In the states we have 2 hot legs that are 180 degrees out of phase. Each leg is 120 volts. When we combine this we say 240 but it really isn't. Over in China, my understanding, is the hot leg truly is 220 volts. Not two 110s put together. I hope I've explained this well enough.

  • @CattleRustlerOCN
    @CattleRustlerOCN5 жыл бұрын

    That welding machine is perfect for a tinkerer, around the homestead repairs, and for a kid to start on. Pretty decent for $100.

  • @TheFabricatorSeries

    @TheFabricatorSeries

    5 жыл бұрын

    But 100 bucks gets ONLY the machine and nothing else. You'll be 400 into a machine that isn't worth it before you can lay down a bead.

  • @OldGriz708
    @OldGriz7084 жыл бұрын

    I bought a 110/220 Hitbox arc welder just for shitz and giggles and was half impressed. It isn't something I would trust to use every day but it's a good little "rescue welder". Easy to pack and run off of the inverter in my truck. I can drive it anywhere on the ranch for a get the tractor home repair and always bring it on off road search and rescue call.

  • @raptureorbust
    @raptureorbust6 жыл бұрын

    10:50 "TIG Toaster, it's a novelty" LOL.

  • @peachypeach
    @peachypeach6 жыл бұрын

    The eBay seller: "Ah great! someone managed to R&D it for us!. Okay, 160 amps."

  • @aaronwu3869
    @aaronwu38695 жыл бұрын

    Great video, but I'll only say you need to plug it to a 240-110 transformer to make it work, looks like it is made in Hong Kong, they use 240v standards there and US is 110v . I think that's where you get the half amp problem

  • @Robon2ndShift

    @Robon2ndShift

    4 жыл бұрын

    This right here. American 240 volt is not the same as Chinese 240. Our 240 is actually two 120 together but they are out of phase white each other. Over there and europe too they truly have 220 coming out of one hot leg.

  • @JD_Mortal
    @JD_Mortal4 жыл бұрын

    It's 40-60% duty cycle... Thus, it's 120 amps (constant), at 240 amps, at half-duty. It gains amps by doubling the voltage, which requires half the cycle of the power phase. The purpose is for smaller rods and more controls. Where the RAW power welders you are using, are for heavy duty, raw welding. I know it sounds misleading, but it is actually 240 amps, at half duty. If you pulsed your other welders at half-duty, the average would be the same. However, the pulses that manual raw welders use is 60-Hz to 240-Hz. These digital controlled welders run at cycles that are much higher. Thus, you have a high amp pulse, for longer, with a slower duty cycle pulse, enough to get it started on a burn, but not enough to continue to burn through the metal, on your machines. On this tiny machine, working with thinner rods and thinner metal, you will have the same results, where your raw welders would just blow holes in everything that this little welder can work easily with. It's about having the right tool for the right job. If you want to TIG aluminum foil, circuit-board contacts, jewelry-boxes and jewelry, you use the mini-welder. If you want to TIG a car, boat, or airplane, you use your TIG welders. If you want to TIG a tank, you use an industrial 480volt or 720volt TIG welding machine. So those same 240-amps result in higher watts. That is also why 100 amps on 110v is only half as powerful as 100 amps on 220v, because its "Watts", not "amps", that welds. 100a x 110v = 11000 watts. 100a x 220v = 22000 watts. (But these machines don't RUN on 110v and 220v, they are more like 10v and 20v, so the amps at the wall are 10a and 20a, respectively and the output is 100a x 10v = 1000 watts and 100a x 20v = 2000 watts, out of your welder.) Amps are irrelevant, unless the voltages are exactly the same. That's why you should be measuring "wattage", of the output, not at the wall. (Comparing wattage out, to wattage at the wall, tells you how efficient or inefficient a welder is. Just for the record, the mini welder is 40-60% more efficient than the larger raw welders, with the outputs being equal. EG, you save 40-60% in your electric bill... More, since raw welders draw power when idle and digital welders do not.)

  • @Hdbdnj
    @Hdbdnj4 жыл бұрын

    I thought that it was a pretty impressive “paper weight” even if it didn’t have that many amps

  • @nightsaber2272
    @nightsaber22726 жыл бұрын

    It's just pocket stick welder for small repairs. But it's cute! :D

  • @DaveSmith-cp5kj

    @DaveSmith-cp5kj

    4 жыл бұрын

    The thing that makes this useless compared to the slightly larger SMAW welders is that this uses the high voltage plug while like the Harbor freight mini welders use a standard household 115/120V wall outlet. And it is actually more expensive than the Harbor Freight one, despite both being chinese.

  • @9eyeh8chu9
    @9eyeh8chu95 жыл бұрын

    I have a Klutch ST80I (Northern Tool store brand) welder that is very similar to this except it actually works. I definitely stand behind it. Its inverter style, runs off of 110vac, only runs up to 75-80A but being inverter based it is more efficient than a transformer style welder and works well for most common applications. I also hooked up a power block and a valve style tig torch to it for a scratch start setup and it works flawlessly, featureless but flawless. I recommend them for a cheap, effective, very portable little welder.

  • @russellmatheny8677
    @russellmatheny86774 жыл бұрын

    Just bought a 225 amp welder like this one. Having the same 1/2 amp trouble. Have it running on 240 volts like its supposed to. It checked out at half amps with a clamp on meter on 1 lead while welding. Works great and even has arc force setting which increases the amps when you hold a tight arc length and helps to keep rods from sticking. Has built in hot start too. I was very disappointed on the amperage, but when you start welding with it and it works very smooth. I have asked the seller to look into it and if I find out anything I will post it on here. I want to get to the bottom of false advertising or the technical reason why it half amps. By the way I paid $43 for it including shipping from a warehouse in the USA.

  • @williamzoom
    @williamzoom6 жыл бұрын

    Actually those Ebay turbos have come a long way in the last couple years :)

  • @TheFabricatorSeries

    @TheFabricatorSeries

    6 жыл бұрын

    William Zoom I agree. They aren't what they used to be. I know of a few brands that last more than a mile (a few years actually).

  • @TheDruxlol

    @TheDruxlol

    6 жыл бұрын

    no they havent ur cars instantly worthless if you were that dumb

  • @izaakbennett9482

    @izaakbennett9482

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Fabrication Series what brands)

  • @TheFabricatorSeries

    @TheFabricatorSeries

    6 жыл бұрын

    Izaak Bennett DNA

  • @9d5sn95

    @9d5sn95

    6 жыл бұрын

    Emusa

  • @morgen2289
    @morgen22896 жыл бұрын

    you can use it to make an arc forge, cheap enough that you can dedicate it to that purpose

  • @michaelstrother9886
    @michaelstrother98863 жыл бұрын

    You are my new Sensei! I now must go back for all the older vids.

  • @Ma_X64
    @Ma_X642 жыл бұрын

    You should know that typically welder machines that has 250 in its name actually can achieve barely 180 Amps (160 is most common case). It's because its schematics was designed by some engineers who can fix it easily and was able to tune it up to 250 Amps (using expensive electronic components and fine tuning). But in mass production they don't use expensive components (or even they don't use all needed components) and therefore machines must be tuned down a little to reliability improvement.

  • @kennethkendrick5265
    @kennethkendrick52655 жыл бұрын

    Will you ever review the Vulcan from harbor fright?

  • @ipanzerschrecku4732
    @ipanzerschrecku47326 жыл бұрын

    at 98 dollars it should be a must "give" present to every guy/gal you know...hey honey we're going to the Andersons for dinner should we bring flowers, wine or a welder?... hey honey your nephew turning 12 what should we give him?... hey Mike from accounting going through a divorce you wanna pitch in for a cheer him up basket or give him this welder?...

  • @TheFabricatorSeries

    @TheFabricatorSeries

    6 жыл бұрын

    iPANZERSCHRECKu Fantastic idea

  • @zanpekosak2383

    @zanpekosak2383

    5 жыл бұрын

    100$ gifs? You guys are generous! We become squimish at anything over 25$.

  • @bigbearfuzzums7027

    @bigbearfuzzums7027

    5 жыл бұрын

    If it all goes wrong in any of the situations they can always fill up the tub plug it in and weld that pesky leaking pipe and end everyone's problems!

  • @johnteribernardo8036
    @johnteribernardo80365 жыл бұрын

    You haven't heard of the Power Weld, invented by Andrade. It was patented year 2000. It is smaller than that, and it is 2018 now, you should check it out

  • @realrandom7666
    @realrandom76665 жыл бұрын

    we had an old welder (SMAW only) from the 20s or 30s in high school. it was about the same size. technology has always been there , no body wanted it.

  • @haydenc2742
    @haydenc27426 жыл бұрын

    It's a continuum transfuctioner!

  • @jackdaniels2657
    @jackdaniels26575 жыл бұрын

    Since its junk can i have it?

  • @Mikey-ym6ok

    @Mikey-ym6ok

    5 жыл бұрын

    jack daniels for real though.

  • @incelstate2466
    @incelstate24663 жыл бұрын

    I saw guy assemble entire deck with roof and everything for caffe near building I lived. He had only grinder and this tiny welder and tube steel was quite big. I asked him about it and he told me it's usable and best thing for him is he can bring all tools with him on bicycle.

  • @gizmo7404
    @gizmo74045 жыл бұрын

    Have a similar "toaster" welder from another Chinese manufacturer. Amp output readings make perfect sense. Here in the US our grid is 2 phase L1/L2/G for 240V (L1/L2 each being 120V if connected L/N) or to updated code L1/L2/N/G. This buzz box was designed for overseas grid L/N/G for 220V +-15%. N should have same potential as G. The way you wired the 6-50P plug, L1 to one blade L2 to one blade and G to G, the welder is only seeing 120V and thus your readout is double what it is actually producing as it is running on half the volts. Works on our 2 phase grid but designed for single phase 220...so only works at half value. Try 120V plug and you will get the same results L1/N/G. Also be much safer this way! Only way to get full power would be to use a step-up transformer 120V to 220/240V. Adding cost and size of transformer makes this a GREAT field/truck 120V repair welder. Throw and go. Don't expect great shop performance...as we all saw.

  • @fvrrljr
    @fvrrljr5 жыл бұрын

    "Junk or Not, I Gotta Have One" regardless it went thru 12 rods and tired you out lol Great Review. i Like, OLE!

  • @TheRussBroom
    @TheRussBroom4 жыл бұрын

    Amazed it cost you so much, I’ve just bought one for a third of that price! 😳 As such, I’m hoping the current anomaly isn’t standard, but I don’t do a lot of welding anyway, so I’m sure she’ll do what I need either way 😊 Great review though. Thanks.

  • @BAGINAZARD
    @BAGINAZARD3 жыл бұрын

    You're likely getting half the power because that unit is designed for 240V, and they are marketing it as 120v.

  • @Mike_In_Idaho

    @Mike_In_Idaho

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was exactly what I was thinking. Pretty much the rest of the world is 240V and there aren't even non-Asian instructions, so yeah, probably expecting 240V.

  • @ryanbrandt2072
    @ryanbrandt20725 жыл бұрын

    i like your video, w the lunch box welder. something i didn't hear u mention. Adding the additional leads, plus the jumper cable attachment. Creates amperage drop. For what the unit cost, i was impressed. though

  • @Trumplican
    @Trumplican5 жыл бұрын

    GET THEM ON EBAY!! 75 bucks or best offer! 10 bucks shipping

  • @shickster1
    @shickster16 жыл бұрын

    What you're interpreting to be amps is more likely "power" or percentage of output capability expressed in decimal from an 8 bit encoded value (256). The actual upper and lower bound are probably mechanically limited or are interpreted from a poorly calibrated analog potentiometer - 254 was shown in this video.

  • @ipodtouchiscoollol

    @ipodtouchiscoollol

    6 жыл бұрын

    that actually may be it

  • @user-ws8ev7nz3e

    @user-ws8ev7nz3e

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Holmes you've gone way too far with that. They sell it like 250A welding machine. 4:58 even on the seller's page at AliExpress there're pictures of the machine with rubbed off sticker.

  • @sommeliercourse4184
    @sommeliercourse41843 жыл бұрын

    Well, you obviously have forgotten this is a DC inverter welder. DC inverter welders produce stable and deeper welding with much less ampers. That means instead of 100A on old welders, you would use 50A on DC inverter. Display will still show 100A because in the rod instruction you would have written those numbers. Those little inverters work great and for many, many years, as I know from the experience, but nobody planned to use them for TIG. So, quite bad review.

  • @jamesf9610
    @jamesf96106 жыл бұрын

    What about for someone who doesn't have a lot of money and would need to weld maybe once a year to repair an exhaust or something like that. Would it at least do for that.

  • @iguanapete3809
    @iguanapete38095 жыл бұрын

    The trouble with these reviews is you have a professional welder reviewing a hobbyist machine.

  • @sentry9834

    @sentry9834

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, and they always piss on the little guys toys. We are not building skyscrapers out back in the tool shed. These hobbyist machines are awesome for the price and in most cases the application. I'm building artwork, go carts, and bicycles these machines do the job everytime.

  • @TheFabricatorSeries

    @TheFabricatorSeries

    5 жыл бұрын

    I dont build skyscrapers either. I never have. But a piece of junk is a piece of junk. If I see no value in it for even a hobbyist (which I once was), I'm gonna say it. It's really a piece of junk.

  • @iguanapete3809

    @iguanapete3809

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheFabricatorSeries Sure , and I'm gona that advice from a guy with an Alfalfa hairdo.

  • @shawbros

    @shawbros

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@iguanapete3809 That's not Alfalfa. That is a fake mohawk.

  • @raffyl2112

    @raffyl2112

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@iguanapete3809 LOL

  • @atlanticamorphine
    @atlanticamorphine5 жыл бұрын

    Were you running it off 110 or 220 volts? I wouldn't be surprised if it's output changes based on the input voltage.

  • @ank55o7
    @ank55o7 Жыл бұрын

    That intro where he fades from the thumbnail was amazing

  • @kilmorepowerchairs2142
    @kilmorepowerchairs21426 жыл бұрын

    oh, come on, that was harsh! Just because its only 125 amps max doesn't make it a crap product, it's under 100 bucks, it welds 1/8 inch plate and can tig. It gives anyone who is intersted in learning to weld a way in at a ridiculous price. Handy for the trunk of the car too!

  • @Migueldeservantes
    @Migueldeservantes6 жыл бұрын

    Well.... Let us face it..Does it work...Mmmmmm.....Yeahhh!!! good product, mmmmeeeehhh but if you consider that you are a welder and that is what you do for a living....It will do an awesome Key Chain!! you can use it a s a personal conversation piece as you make the mention... and yes like ducks don't swim well, don't fly well, don't walk well or snorkel well... but it actually does it!

  • @stevedodge7025
    @stevedodge70256 жыл бұрын

    How could something that small, not be under-Powered? So, it's a 125 Amp Welder?

  • @ibast1

    @ibast1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Different design to a traditional welder. Uses switches rather than coils. Like modern phone chargers compared to ones 10 years ago.

  • @falcon7350
    @falcon73506 жыл бұрын

    i have a older L175 mig but i am a full time RVer and i was on the road and got stuck needing this . my unit is way to big but some thing like this small that i can hid in a bay could really work

  • @skatewithvanz
    @skatewithvanz4 жыл бұрын

    If youre a maintenance mechanic it's probably small enough to have on a tool cart as you go work around a shop just with some small 7018 rods (less spatter) and you can use it occasionally to help with simple welding needs and repairs? Im an industrial maintenance technician and i think itd be cool for some things maybe?

  • @jukkapekkaylitalo
    @jukkapekkaylitalo5 жыл бұрын

    Did y use it on 110v. Product page says it is for 220 Volt. Of course amps are half if y have lower Voltage supply it needs.

  • @umbrellahole

    @umbrellahole

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't weld (want to) but my knowledge of electricity says you have to be correct!

  • @fvrrljr

    @fvrrljr

    5 жыл бұрын

    hmmm interesting thought

  • @TheFabricatorSeries

    @TheFabricatorSeries

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was plugged into 240v power just as stated and shown in the vid.

  • @umbrellahole

    @umbrellahole

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheFabricatorSeries said it over to bigclive he'll take it apart and tell us what's going on inside of it

  • @mahmoudothmanekhelassi7405
    @mahmoudothmanekhelassi74056 жыл бұрын

    will this be enough for me to start learning stick welding from ground?

  • @Mikey-ym6ok

    @Mikey-ym6ok

    4 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @YoloToTheMax104
    @YoloToTheMax1042 жыл бұрын

    I suspect what has actually happened with the display is the manufacturer is converting the potentiometer reading to an 8 bit value (0-255) which then gets displayed. This has the added value that they can then advertise a "more powerful unit"

  • @vking5665
    @vking56653 жыл бұрын

    I had one that was smaller in height (square from the front) slightly longer in length. I was an Italian Rossi. Stick / Tig. Welded amazingly even wet rod started & welded smooth as silk. Lent it to a friend … never got it back.

  • @jamkuder
    @jamkuder5 жыл бұрын

    what is the best chinese MMA (inverter) you could possibly recommend?

  • @protvinorock

    @protvinorock

    4 жыл бұрын

    Riland 👍

  • @garybaris139
    @garybaris1396 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, when you said it goes to 250A, My first thought was "there's no way that little thing does 250A". The question remains however; How would you rate it if the display was actually accurate? Let's say the display maxed out at 125A, would you rate it as a reasonably decent welder for that amperage?

  • @johnnytakisawa

    @johnnytakisawa

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mind Freshener hes running it on 240volt.

  • @whitesands928

    @whitesands928

    6 жыл бұрын

    Gary Baris C

  • @marcelogouveia9614

    @marcelogouveia9614

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mind Freshener, he's running at 240v "didn't you see the plug"?

  • @joea1433

    @joea1433

    6 жыл бұрын

    It is all about duty cycle. And how much the fans and heat sinks and fans can dissipate the heat

  • @garybaris139

    @garybaris139

    6 жыл бұрын

    It has nothing to do with duty cycle. Duty cycle is how long you can run it at a specific load before you need to cool it down for a specific time. This machine doesn't reach the rated output, it only goes to about half. That is either blatantly misleading advertising or bad design..... maybe both.

  • @leonelgallegos6896
    @leonelgallegos68965 жыл бұрын

    These things are normally used by a fitter because they are easy to carry around. They are used for tacking and really not used for a full blown weld. Miller and Lincoln have similar products but you hardly ever see anybody using these little nifty machines.

  • @jimbeam9977
    @jimbeam99773 жыл бұрын

    That Zoltan part had me rolling I swear lol love your videos

  • @Thereadingmusiclover
    @Thereadingmusiclover5 жыл бұрын

    Dont judge a bomb by it size, or else you underestimate atomic bombs

  • @russelloneill9763
    @russelloneill97635 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it was a 220V input and not 110V. 220 Volt single phase is standard in China.

  • @kentfletcher8539

    @kentfletcher8539

    5 жыл бұрын

    He knew that, wired it 220... Pay attention, there's going to be a quiz later!

  • @TheSign2020
    @TheSign20205 жыл бұрын

    Bought a similar one. But a a little bit bigger , Onex brand 250 amps declaration , has no screen that shows the amps btw. And I don't really care if it only goes to 125. It burns the metal away on max output . And it welds like a champ.

  • @jaysondavenport7322
    @jaysondavenport73225 жыл бұрын

    The thumbnail to the video is the smoothest thing I've ever seen in youtube

  • @roboneoff2204
    @roboneoff22045 жыл бұрын

    Did it lay beads ? YES. Would it weld two bits of metal together ? YES. STOP being a gear snob and face facts, it does what a $1000 machine does.

  • @fvrrljr

    @fvrrljr

    5 жыл бұрын

    i second that motion. OLE!

  • @brandysigmon9066

    @brandysigmon9066

    5 жыл бұрын

    Correct, we all know it's not for welding pipe all day everyday but for a now and then tack or bead it's just right.

  • @__WJK__

    @__WJK__

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well said, especially the snob comment...

  • @jakefriesenjake

    @jakefriesenjake

    5 жыл бұрын

    It does tig....

  • @robc4913

    @robc4913

    5 жыл бұрын

    For an infrequent use "Home Hobby" MMA it would be more than ample. Never would i consider it for commercial use lol

  • @maxheadflow
    @maxheadflow6 жыл бұрын

    So is a 125 amp welder for 99$ not OK?

  • @redbugg99

    @redbugg99

    6 жыл бұрын

    Max Headflow Not for this guy. He need a welder for skyscrapers with a million dollar crane to lift it for him. On the 2nd floor.

  • @SWhite-hp5xq

    @SWhite-hp5xq

    6 жыл бұрын

    You can drill a hole with a $150 Makita drill or with a $20 crappo drill. Take your pick, it’s your choice. But in a few yrs time, which one will still be drilling holes! Buy once, cry once.

  • @NuclearRoll

    @NuclearRoll

    6 жыл бұрын

    @@SWhite-hp5xq not the Makita

  • @NuclearRoll

    @NuclearRoll

    6 жыл бұрын

    @@SWhite-hp5xq that's will-fuck-yee to you

  • @redbugg99

    @redbugg99

    6 жыл бұрын

    S. White If I lived in the Philippines ... The average person makes 200 pesos per day. To feed their families plus other expenses. $100.00 dollars = 5.000 pesos My personal system was $3.500.00 plus. 1,865,500.00 Philippine Peso @ today's marker Most 3rd word country does average 200.00 their money per day $4.00 per day .... that will be 25 days of 100% savings plus shipping plus material .... I'll say about 50 days to have a novelty. Any questions? THIS VIDEO IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO THE USA VIEWER. KZread is view worldwide in exception to China and some other countries where American ideology is sensor.

  • @billshuey7422
    @billshuey74223 жыл бұрын

    I live in Thailand and it cost me $39 including shipping. It is grossly over rating the amps. At 80 amps my meter shows approximately 50 amps. 6010 usually ran at 60 amps requires 120 to 130 amps.

  • @woodbrassandglass
    @woodbrassandglass3 жыл бұрын

    Turn it all the way up: "Jarvis sometimes you have to run before you can walk"

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    12 electrodes and it carried on so it does weld and does what it says.

  • @TheFabricatorSeries

    @TheFabricatorSeries

    6 жыл бұрын

    It actually doesn't do what it says haha. That's the problem. 12 electrodes at an unknown amount of amps with an unknown amount of duty cycle means you'll never know what it will actually do. The amount of rods is actually irrelevant since just about any machine will burn without exceeding its duty cycle if you weld way below it.

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    If you still have the welds cut them and see how far they penetrated then will know if it can weld.

  • @evan8650

    @evan8650

    5 жыл бұрын

    12 3/32 even in an industrial setting that's good. I'm not sure what people are expecting. Most people are not building 1000 psi vessels or skyscrapers in there garages or small shops unless I'm missing something.

  • @mrgreenswelding2853
    @mrgreenswelding28536 жыл бұрын

    Just checked the link and it says 160 amps. Maybe they saw this and changed it.lol!

  • @TheFabricatorSeries

    @TheFabricatorSeries

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mr. greens boat tanks and aluminium welding They'll probably jack up the price too haha.

  • @mrgreenswelding2853

    @mrgreenswelding2853

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Fabrication Series yeah justin, they probably will. Lmao!!!

  • @redbugg99

    @redbugg99

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mr. greens boat tanks and aluminium welding its chinglish .... its expected to fail at advertising like anything coming from China. But it works ... I'm getting one for sure.

  • @alexfrankl7861
    @alexfrankl78614 жыл бұрын

    If you're out in the bush and need to weld a tierod back together or a control arm this thing would be worth its weight in gold .

  • @MrMrsregor
    @MrMrsregor6 жыл бұрын

    you should check out the AHP Alpha160ST ! slightly bigger but WAY better quality, and max 240 amps means it really welds at 240 amps