Public roads passing through private land remain public roadways, all across the nation.

@jacquesb5248

4 жыл бұрын

the question is, was that road maybe before the land was sold? is a access road to the property and therefore attached to the property?

@deann7898

4 жыл бұрын

If that were the case it would be reflected on the title/deed. if the road is part of the deed there should be some kind of easement indicated. if going through the property is the ONLY way to get to another property then the state can force an easement. if there are alternative means to get to another property then people will and should use that.

@jutwerner

4 жыл бұрын

@angry bushnell you are sure this roadway go to somewhere beyond their privat land?

@williamgosvener47

4 жыл бұрын

jutwerner yes they clearly state the road is the access point for public land. Becouse it is a forestry service access road, it belongs to the federal government and is legally open to the public.

@richardkroll2269

4 жыл бұрын

Who maintains the road? The forest service?

Blocking forest service roads is a fire hazzard

@dholmes61

4 жыл бұрын

@Joey Barreras front doors are not a fire hazzard.

@dholmes61

4 жыл бұрын

A front door is very different than a gate. When fighting fires, a front door restricts airflow to the fire. This causes the fire to not spread as fast. That is why fire fighters need to check doors for heat before they open them. A gate does not restrict air, it restricts access. The fire will blow right past a gate. Firefighters and rescue vehicles need roads for access. Depending on the gate and the location and installation, going around or through it may net be possible. Since these guys are from texas i would assume they know how to build a gate..

@dholmes61

4 жыл бұрын

@Joey Barreras ok, there is no difference between gas and diesel then, both make your car run, so, go fill your car with diesel. See what your semantics lands you.

@unclebill5170

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan Smith they never said they are land locked there might be another road in from somewhere els said the previous owner let them doesn’t mean the next owner has to !!! Unless it’s put in the sale agreement !!!

@wildlandfirefighter5656

4 жыл бұрын

Dont worry...we bust through them if there is a wildfire.

Native Americans had the same complaint long ago.

@Lone_Elk

4 жыл бұрын

Funny story this guy bought private land on a mountian in the wind river indian reservation (he was a rich guy from back east). The previous owners were really cool and let natives hunt or go through their land. But he decided to put nails on the cattle guard so no one was able to drive onto his land. There were a couple people that got flat tires from it. A couple guys i know just cut his barbed wire fence with bolt cutters and kept on going. They were never caught and the guy has yet to fix the fence.

@mikelly1128

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but they lost

@leonxl

4 жыл бұрын

thequack1968 they’re still mostly alive and well across North and South America.

@itorca

4 жыл бұрын

Not really native Americans had sovereignty denial and lack of enforcement Wich is a common issue when encounters take place along extreme cultural and economic differences. It would be like settling you on Mars without representative or local sovereignty but enforcing sovereignty outside means and capability of Earth. Your rebellion would be imminent. Earth would not be able to directly challenge your sovereignty. At least in any immediate way. Native Americans politically chose the economic super powers and ceded sovereignty over their direct enemies this intiated war between the economic super power in the defense of their new territory and or citizens. It's not a collective generalization that all native Americans had issues with land control. You can look at northern plains native Americans and see how that sovereignty imposed on lesser tribes was quite brutal far beyond the necessity. Especially in comparison to Western doctrines and culture. So no most native Americans did not have the same complaint long ago. Your applying politics and moral understanding of today's post world war lens to people who would never comprehend a world war. As the civil war was the closest thing since and before that the Crimean war. As far as the Indian wars and sovereignty go it was trade deals and raids Which folowed with retaliation and regurgitated revenge killings and property seizures. All with the use of force. These were then settled by military raids and campaigns these actions brought about generalization and labels in Wich to dehumanize and bring battle and for some revenge style justice. Wich fed to the idea of the expanding the sovereignty west bound as most find death and war to be of great profit. The issue here is more akin to the English nobility and the treatment of the commoners and peasants on their land and how the people were denied human rights based on the circumstances of ownership of the land. Like a road to the chapel being blocked or fenced for the cattle or sheep to the detriment of would be religious peasants but this not their land so what rightfully could they do. The chapel being a source of their lives where meal share and learning may take place on what is a public good Towards a money hungry exploitive bureaucrat Noble. At least from the bias of this recorded piece.

@mykasmith837

4 жыл бұрын

Right. It didn't matter then, it doesn't matter now

That's why we don't have hardly any public lands in Texas. Every thing has a lock on it and only money is the key!

@zico739

4 жыл бұрын

Joey Barreras That’s public land.

@billmeriwether605

4 жыл бұрын

Big Bend park - is that not “public” ? Its enormous - many sections of land - not sure what you meant

@alwaysopen7970

4 жыл бұрын

@@billmeriwether605 You wanna live there?

@billmeriwether605

4 жыл бұрын

alwaysopen live in a public park? - Have you ever been there? - I have - its gorgeous - there are a lot of visitors and an incredible golf course

@mykasmith837

4 жыл бұрын

And this is a problem? 😑

If it’s a public road you can’t block it. Period.

@miltoncastro935

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like common sense to me

@campkira

4 жыл бұрын

it a road in middle of nowhere.... so yeah they would try to do that...

@colinbaugh5091

4 жыл бұрын

It's not tho sadly

@cfusmoke7319

3 жыл бұрын

Its not

@99sporttruck

3 жыл бұрын

If was a public road the law would’ve done something sooner. People are idiots

Knock down the gates. They own both sides of the road, not the road.

@thomasa4239

4 жыл бұрын

Only police or fire department can do this. They don’t need a warrant. Just bolt cutters (or a free surplus tank)

@westcoast2372

4 жыл бұрын

They could actually just get rid of the road altogether, it’s their road now. They put build a mansion right in the middle of the street where the gate is even

@davidperry4013

4 жыл бұрын

@@thomasa4239 Or some thermite.

@rileyenia9388

3 жыл бұрын

@Theory of a StrawMan no they never said that the road was owned by the former owner they said the former owner kept the property open for other t enjoy

@bernardschmitt6389

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

The owners are free to build a fence along the easement at their own expense.

@crunchfootjim4936

3 жыл бұрын

@Steve Johnson Do you understand how easements work,dumb-dumb?

It's the golden rule. He who has the gold, makes the rules!

@handyman7748

4 жыл бұрын

actually its the property owner makes the rules, as it should be

@robboat6269

4 жыл бұрын

@David Moore why do you think the government is trying to take guns from law abiding citizens. Big changes are planed. That people will not like.

@klein2042

4 жыл бұрын

I thought the Golden Rule was Bros before hoes

@GoofyAhhsPersonOnYT

4 жыл бұрын

The one who put a value on gold in the first place makes the rule!

@backwoodsred49

3 жыл бұрын

There's no business like snow business!

Weyerhaeuser tried doing that here. Odd how their timber land started burning. They opened it back up and the fires stopped too.

@lrobie123

3 жыл бұрын

checks and balances

So if there’s a fire, the fire trucks can’t get there.

@beatswitdat4285

4 жыл бұрын

And there wont be people arouns to see I'm till its to late

@champandhomie

4 жыл бұрын

If there is a fire, firefighters put civilian right secondary to the fire. It sounds bad but it is actually necessary to ensure public safety. If they need to get to a fire they will one way or another. That’s why it is illegal to block fire hydrants, and if you do, they CAN and WILL smash your windows and run the hose straight through your car.

@olivertaylor4779

4 жыл бұрын

@@champandhomie Ageed, imo if a vehicle is blocking a hydrant, firemen must go through or (under a high vehicle if access is easier) and the vehicle user has to pay for damages out of their pocket -no insurance claims allowed, and they also have to pay compensation to the fire department for inconveniencing them.

@stevepettersen3283

4 жыл бұрын

@@olivertaylor4779 Plus a nice costly ticket from the police.

@gregoryscott7088

4 жыл бұрын

What kind of fire truck doesn't come equipped with bolt cutters?

I worked for BLM and encountered this more than a few times. I advised my supervisor and they cut locks and informed owner that leased the land that it was a public road. Problem solved. If the forest service doesn't comply because the Wilkes are rich, then I would approach the person immediately in front of the Wilke's gate to put up similar gate, thereby denying access by the Wilkes brothers to their own land. Then negotiate they would open their gate if the Wilkes opened their gate.

@jutwerner

4 жыл бұрын

@larry james the problem is, this brothers have no reason to go there! i don`t know the laws in the us, but in my country every landowner, or the munincipality must give an other landowner a "paths right" or "accsess" to his property by a short and reasonable way from a near public road! if this is an old agreement and is not dokumented, what it usally is, applies after 40 years of using this road, a right too use it automatically. the public is anyway allowed to enter any forest! (but no cars, no motorbikes, no quads. on certain rural roads mountain bikes are ok. of course no open fire, no hunting and dogs..... on the leash!)

@mykasmith837

4 жыл бұрын

You are so dumb

@markkover8040

4 жыл бұрын

@Matthew Smith Excuse me for interjecting, but the original road was built by the Forest Service in the 1950's to open up the area for logging, fire control and recreation. It shows up on topography maps dating back to 1960. The road has been maintained by the Forest Service from that time.

@markkover8040

4 жыл бұрын

@Matthew Smith FEDERAL property, not state or county like a great majority of Idaho. Enforcement of such property rights and access is a federal issue.

@markkover8040

4 жыл бұрын

@Matthew Smith The PRIVATE land was sold, not the federal land. The land holdings in that region were held by lumber companies and miners. Access by road was desired by all parties involved. Often the lumber companies cost shared the building and maintenance of the roads. What needs to be looked into is the original agreements about access through the private lands and how those agreements have been amended. IF the private property owners do get control over those roads, they will also have to take full responsibility for maintaining them. And if a forest fire breaks out on their property, the government can also demand payment for services rendered.

Must suck to have millions and millions and millions of dollars and STILL be suffering from boredom

If Billionaires own it, you've already lost.

@XP3RTL3G3ND

4 жыл бұрын

BookCade NB Ain’t that the truth!

@JohnnyMando92

4 жыл бұрын

Not unless they're dead

@jeremywoods770

4 жыл бұрын

If billionaires want it, youve already lost it

@1racemate

4 жыл бұрын

cut there nuts off

@kenetickups6146

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, they own the governemnt

Road access to public lands...from private land...should of been dealt with at the time of purchase.

Their already is laws regarding easement roads.

in the uk we have traditional walk ways and tracks going back hundreds of years and we as the public have access even if they go through private property / land

@johnaustin6673

3 жыл бұрын

we have the same , it's called the constitution of both the federal and state level. Both of which grant citizens of America freedom of movement. As long as I do no damage or cost the land owner no money, their is nothing they can do to me for crossing private property. Also over rules presidents and governors lock down rules/orders. They simply do not have the power to restrict our rights. No one person does

@charlesreid9337

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnaustin6673 none of this is true and you've neither read nor understand the constitution

@charlesreid9337

2 жыл бұрын

In the UK you have "Travellers rights" which required a huge social movement to make happen. You should tead about it. It is fascinating. We don't have those rights in the US the closest we have is a useage right. Example I've walked across a field to get to work for 10 years. Someone new buys it, puts up a fence and starts building a building that would prevent me from doing so. Per us lae they have to make reasonable accomodation..perhaps moving the building and installing gates I have access too

@johnaustin6673

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesreid9337 I understand it way more than you

@johnaustin6673

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesreid9337 not to mention I have studied it for decades. So it's you that have never read it, nor understand it

The rich being greedy? Nothing new there!

@handyman7748

4 жыл бұрын

really? do you let people walk through your back yard?

@thurstoncubillo70

4 жыл бұрын

They’re greedy for not wanting people on something they paid for?

@0xsergy

4 жыл бұрын

@@handyman7748 does your back yard get maintained through public tax money?

@kenetickups6146

4 жыл бұрын

Nothing new under the sun

@patveldon6843

4 жыл бұрын

Public easement

They violated federal easement law by closing off forest service roads. This all comes down to a basic matter of civil respect which these Texas billionaires seem to be lacking. I hope they pass laws that will make these idiots think twice about blocking a federally mandated road.

@brandonandreski1709

2 жыл бұрын

Federally mandated road on private property. Yeah that is in the constitution somewhere right? Right next to the section where the bill of rights was just a guideline and not a directive to the government to step off. I get why the road is there. I get why the forestry service wants to have access but there are better ways to do this than pass laws that will undoubtedly be abused. Just make them responsible for fire access. Simple solution. I bet they didn't even originally know it was a forestry road and I bet you that the owners were not even the ones that put in the gate or the lock. They most likely have a property management company doing that.

@carsfabio

2 жыл бұрын

What part of private property do you not understand, it’s private property. Previous owners were nice enough to let people use it. New owners, new rules. Plain and simple, they don’t have to let anybody use that Road, it’s their property. how would you like it if someone came and told you what to do with your property, to let people drive all over it and litter on it.

@brandonandreski1709

2 жыл бұрын

@@carsfabio The issue is the road may not actually be private. If it is an access road then it is public property. Sure if it is not an access road then they can do whatever they want but on my land I have a public access road that runs right through a section and I legally can't block it because it is for emergency vehicles, and to access the BLM land my property blocks.

@shaverlocal

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonandreski1709 So, who originally owned the road? It wasn't the forest circus. Who has the legal right to sell public roads?

@brandonandreski1709

Жыл бұрын

@@shaverlocal I think you misunderstand what I’m saying. If the road is a public road that happens to run through private property, they exist, then because it’s a public access road for emergency vehicles the only people who have a right to block it off is the county or state that owns it. Doesn’t matter who originally owned the road it only matters who currently owns the road. If the road is private property he can do whatever he wants with it.

Money makes rules. Look at how many states are weed dealers now. Money is all that matters

@electric6877

4 жыл бұрын

@Max Power it is both. People generally wanted it because it wasn't dangerous but the states found it good for $$$

@kurtlessnar8497

4 жыл бұрын

Wrong bozo it’s the belief people put on money and the illusion the government wants people to keep on believing in money. People make the rules but the illusion of money gets in there way

@mykasmith837

4 жыл бұрын

Well weed isn't bad and neither is not letting people use your property

@the_mercifulunderdog4437

4 жыл бұрын

Also casinos

@mykasmith837

4 жыл бұрын

You should be happy about the legalization of weed the government kept this right from us for too long

Billionaire beaches were shot down in California It’s my birthright to access any beach on the Pacific Ocean

@desertdogg9773

4 жыл бұрын

Screw California if you live in California you should think about escaping

@kanesmith8271

4 жыл бұрын

@@desertdogg9773 that's not very brave

@susanpaulk7258

4 жыл бұрын

@@desertdogg9773 stupid comment.

@teambean951

4 жыл бұрын

California always sells out. It a corrupt government

@bignoseYeu

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah liberals made enough space for you to live on the street

Ok, it’s been over a year, what’s the update?

Iam from Texas those brothers are thief’s

Remember when these guys promised not to do this?!

So get a posse together and make the gate disappear every time it reappears.

@paulrasmussen8953

4 жыл бұрын

And get arrested for theift

@Reno_Slim

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulrasmussen8953 Only if theyre stupid enough to get caught. They seem like resourceful enough people to know how to not get caught.

What do you expect from rich people? The only way to counter them is to ignore them and do what you want anyways.

@SuperBigblue19

3 жыл бұрын

There's good & bad people in all income levels. My Grandmother was wealthy but drove around a Volkswagen beetle because she liked it. She never had a bad thing to say to anyone & donated most of her wealth to many charities that deal with animals & mental health.

The public long ago created an easement across that land guaranteeing public access to federal land. Stand up for your rights America!

@shumemire1515

4 жыл бұрын

@AI B We The People created that easement by simply using the road. Now that our access has been blocked the good citizens of Idaho, Colorado, Utah, and other states where this is happening will have to go to the courts for relief.

@mykasmith837

4 жыл бұрын

I am. I'm standing up for my right to own property and do what I please with it. Nobody can tell you what to do with property you paid for

@davidphillips6189

4 жыл бұрын

i spoke with a guy in 2018 who was bear hunting in that area. i made a comment about the new gates. he told me he did not care he had been hunting that area for over 20 years and was going to keep doing so. bless him!

The fact they're declining to comment speaks volumes.

@mykasmith837

4 жыл бұрын

They declined to comment because its unnecessary. They paid for it so they do what they want with it

There has got to be a good ole Boy with a big truck that can open that gate without much trouble.

I love how "we reached out and recieved no comment" is always attached to people who know they are in the wrong.

@DianeHasHopeInChrist

4 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@oldbatwit5102

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong, and pretty dumb.

@DukeApples

3 жыл бұрын

@@oldbatwit5102 yuh

@marshallsweatherhiking1820

Жыл бұрын

And nothing ever happens about it.

@DukeApples

Жыл бұрын

@@marshallsweatherhiking1820 not usually.

If only people would understand how easements work we wouldn’t have this issue, sadly even in Texas this is always an issue, gates and locks on public easements.

@7150285

3 жыл бұрын

The don't own the road.

@jackslake6169

Жыл бұрын

I agree mostly but it’s been known that reporters have reached out in such ways that they can’t be contacted so that they can say that they did not receive a response. I’m not saying that’s the case here but it does happen. So take for example if I sent an email at 3 o’clock in the morning and then I published my report at 6 AM and then I technically could say I reached out for comment but received no response

Well tell your state to stop selling it! Or get a right of way

@jongregg2234

4 жыл бұрын

If you force law abiding citizens to be criminals to get access to public land. It's gonna be bad

@wwrite

4 жыл бұрын

Jon Gregg Force? No one forcing them to break the law. The clowns who run the government are selling land and the real question is to who’s benefit? We have the same issues here and it’s ridiculous. I personally want to stop electing individuals and have a vote on everything. We are a digital age. We could once a week sit at our computers, log in, and vote. This nonsense of individuals having this much authority is not working. Especially when we the people have ZERO recourse.

@thecrimsonfucker5956

4 жыл бұрын

@@wwrite agree!

@wwrite

4 жыл бұрын

The Weapon Collection unless there is easements for the road the state did you wrong. My state has done the same things. We the people get the short end while they the politicians gain.

@Internet_Handles_Are_Dumb

4 жыл бұрын

The Weapon Collection you can say the previous owner understood the process, but that may not be the case. The previous owner may not have cared to invest any time or money to do anything other than sit and wait around for someone to offer up money for a lot of undeveloped property. This story doesn’t have the hard facts as to whether the public has legal easement or not. Right/wrong/indifferent, I would imagine that unless something make s the new property owners happy from back room meetings that would make this a non issue, the Billionaires will somehow make this situation very advantageous to their own benefit.

Follow the money. I'm guessing these brothers donated $$ to local reps to get this done. Corruption affects us all.

Is happening in Oregon , ask any Billionaire near Sprague River.

@Billy28376

4 жыл бұрын

I'm in Oregon. I always love it when their fresh new gates get pulled down every weekend.

There's not much an Acetylene torch can't fix 💥

@BIGBLOCK5022006

3 жыл бұрын

Or a Stihl chop saw.

@duncanportal3033

3 жыл бұрын

A good torch is a good tool. Claim your right to access your public lands.

@rocketraccoon1976

3 жыл бұрын

No need to get drastic. Most padlocks are poorly designed and can be easily picked. Just identify the padlock they use, go to the Lockpicking Lawyer's or Bosnian Bill's channels and find out how to pop it open. Some locks don't even require a lockpick, and can be opened with a soda can tab or even just a simple pin.

Used to be the good old boys would just ease there truck up to a gate like that and make it disappear after they "nudged" it outta its footings

@paulrasmussen8953

4 жыл бұрын

And get arrested

That's basically saying that the forest service and firefighters aren't allowed

@navydoc8695

2 жыл бұрын

If there is a threat to life or property a chain and padlock will never even slow down a firefighter.

@SCP_Bright

7 ай бұрын

@@navydoc8695 they have no authority to step foot on the property.

The state needs to declare an "easement" for the access road to be open. And, anyone who uses the easement, cannot tresspass on the lands adjacent to the road, only the state park areas. This is COMMONPLACE in america, when private lands surround public land...and, utility companies need certain areas(small, narrow strips) for access for delivery of product and maintenance. This is why we have EASEMENTS in america. EVERY home that i have owned has had a small easement on the land, on ALL four sides of rectangular lots.

@sebastionhawk5565

4 жыл бұрын

@HIS Footprints OnWater yes...you DO make a point...what the county or state has to do is to buy a portion of the land that will allow access to the center. And, if no one is willing, then, the state/feds can access, but, not be used for "public use." someone in the state gov't screwed up, if that state/county/fed land is locked inside private property, but, then, again, this kind of thing is commonplace in places like MI, but, it is the REVERSE situation- USUALLY, government land owns the circumfrence and, surrounds private land, not vice-versa... it is actually an odd situation in a way...

@sebastionhawk5565

4 жыл бұрын

@HIS Footprints OnWater me too.

There usually is a law that tells of when a public access road becomes a true public road because of the amount and length of public use. I would like to know what the Forest Service would have to say if their access is also cut off. "Sorry rich boys, you are going to have to fight that wildfire yourself since you cut us off. Too bad if it burns all your expensive real estate in the process. Heck, you have tons of money, buy some fire trucks."

In North Carolina there's something called a prescriptive easement or adverse possession. You could argue that since the public has had long standing access and had maintained and improved the road that have rights to access that convey with the land.

Could always install a drawbridge. Have it on remote and it lowers over the 3 foot deep trench through the road. ;)

The boy scouts did the same thing in northern New Mexico

They admitted that the road was private and previous owners allowed use... the new owners don't want you there, go around..

@winecraft5009

4 жыл бұрын

The road is public and was maintained by taxpayers. The land is private.

@winecraft5009

4 жыл бұрын

That’s like buying all the houses on a street and then blocking off the road.

@jordanlittle5391

4 жыл бұрын

@@winecraft5009 no because I dont own the street but they do own the road totally different

@winecraft5009

4 жыл бұрын

@@jordanlittle5391 2:20 "It's been maintained by taxpayer dollars for decades."

@fuckutube9217

4 жыл бұрын

You can't go around cause it depends what land is owned. Example if the own land 10 miles either direction of road than that's the go around point.

I suppose the alternative would be an eminent domain action on the land that road occupies.

To the DFD company and the Wilkes brothers in this video: Either remove the gates and let innocent people travel that road or go to jail for keeping innocent people from traveling that road. To add insult to injury, you are unlawfully keeping public officials off that land and that in and of itself is illegal and those public officials can add charges on top of the aforementioned charges.

Its a national forest area they cannot sell the land for harvest .

@alwaysopen7970

4 жыл бұрын

Someone did.

@ericshimer6669

4 жыл бұрын

Ammon and Cliven Bundy warned everyone. Obama was land grabbing threw the bureau of land management. The billionaires clubs were buying. BLM has bee pulling this stunt for awhile. U.S. Fish and wildlife are in on it.

@wildlandfirefighter5656

4 жыл бұрын

They are buying private land..not public land.

@mykasmith837

4 жыл бұрын

Well apparently they can dummy

@davidphillips6189

4 жыл бұрын

not that simple. it sounds crazy, but there are non-national forest lands within the boundaries of the national forest. the west half of the boise national forest is pretty chopped up.

The road had to be put in on a easement if not then the road is illegal so everybody needs to look at the property lines and easement lines to find out who's at fault.... A lot of farms have roads cut through them.... I think the problem is on the previous owner allowed the road without an easement so nothing was ever changed and now new owner is making a big deal about it

@dcg590

2 жыл бұрын

As they should

Politicians should not be allowed to sell public land without express public permission. We need to hold our leaders accountable for their actions. These two brothers most probably paid politicians a bribe in the form of campaign contributions or gifts and perks to reduce the price for the land they bought.

Any resolution to this issue ?

Time for the government to force the issue.

@paulrasmussen8953

4 жыл бұрын

No. It's their land their rights

This is what title companies and contracts are for. Either the road is public or there is an easement and it is written down somewhere or it is not. If it is not well to bad it's private property and you need to negotiate or purchase those rights even if you use eminent domain you must still pay market value for the takings

I'm guessing this is somewhere south of the gate (which is also on NF-374) that blocks access to the KTVB broadcast tower? Just sayin....

This isn't complicated at all. When people do this in Arizona, we just rip the gate down.

It's an easment... get a big truck removed it!

@chucknorris277

3 жыл бұрын

Its called bolt cutters. 20 bucks at home depot. Just check for a trail cam first

@ericraspperry2707

3 жыл бұрын

Unless it is plainly stated on the deed/title documents, there is no 'easement' or free access to privet property.

Get used to this. This is just the beginning

interesting, by my Cabin are many Forest Service Roads, they've been putting berm's up for years, which is why i had to lift the Bronco, there are NO SIGNS, they just made it where Cars and Standard height Trucks can't get over them.

In Kalifornistan, you can sue to keep access based on past use of the road and land over time.

They are billionaires, they can do what ever they want

@nobillclinton

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@denisemayosky1955

4 жыл бұрын

No, they can't. They *think* they can!

@mykasmith837

4 жыл бұрын

At least someone gets it😂😂

The government can force them to pull them down under right under eminent domain. Perhaps Idahoans should get together and fight these guys.

@b0r0din988

5 жыл бұрын

The government? You mean that swamp thing most Republicans hate? Good luck with that. The Wilks pay for their reelection campaigns.

@mykasmith837

4 жыл бұрын

@freEvo8 its too late they already sold it to them. They can do what they want with it now

Is it an official public road or just an access road? Ie: fire trail?

Haves & have nots. Like a time gone by, poaching in the kings forest was a hanging offense. Nothing has changed

Owners can control their property. Emergency personnel can be given key access in emergencies .

@HandymanKurt

4 жыл бұрын

The roadway is not theirs to lock. They can gate their driveway.

@paulrasmussen8953

4 жыл бұрын

@@HandymanKurt yes it is theirs

Cut them down and send them to the billionaires.

In Oregon the forest service blocks off roads.

There is a doctrine in law called "adverse possession", in which, if the use of a road is allowed over a long period of time, the users acquire a right to continue using it. If I needed to, I would just use it anyway, the owners have no practical way to stop them, local law enforcement is not going to waste resources to enforce a trespassing complaint, if the absent landowners sue, they would likely face a hostile jury, and they have no provable damages.

people come from other places because they like what they see and note how different it is compared to where they come from. Then they go about changing everything to make it like it is where they came from. Think of the Californians or people leaving the expensive and highly regulated north eastern states and their migrations south and west. What is the first thing they do? You guessed it, bring there thoughts, ideas, and beliefs from home and criticize the locals for doing it wrong or having backward ideas! The ruin it and ultimately change the character of the place they fell in love with.

@Cheeseburger.Launch.Sequence

4 жыл бұрын

They destroy everything. Everywhere. They believe in nothing.

@rockym2931

3 жыл бұрын

They do the same thing to people here in Texas. It isn't custom here so much as what money is allowed to get away with.

I don’t agree, but if it is their land they have the complete right

@Jay-fq8uz

3 жыл бұрын

That’s the thing the road isn’t theirs..........

Private property is an easy to understand concept. If the US Forest Service wants a road in a National Forest then said road needs to be in the National Forest.

Private property means stay out. No ifs or nots. In Texas if a Rancher needs to get to their property going thru your property they would have an agreement that you would respect the property you are going thru. There would put a special lock where each owner could open to go thru. The Forrest Rangers could also have a lock. No free hunting or hiking for you would be trespassing.

The people of Idaho should force an eminent domain seizure of all public land sold to private developers. These sales were clearly done under bribery of public officials and must be reversed.

Who owns the road? There's the answer.

@Idk-xj6rs

4 жыл бұрын

PolSmokesPot { ولد الوجيهي } no they don’t, it’s inside a private property who the previous owners allowed people use it now they sold it and the new owner want it closedown. So no is not own by Idaho people.

The road must provide a purpose such as access to property. If the road was just access for recreation then you lose

Politicians probably getting kickbacks

Says Boise national forests. Meaning it’s not private.

@wildlandfirefighter5656

4 жыл бұрын

There is private land tracts within national forest and outside the borders of national forest.

@mykasmith837

4 жыл бұрын

They sold it so now its private property. Do you not get how this works?

Just as the rich continue to private landlock the Ocean in California; this is private entities working to landlock public lands. It is also called thieving whether by an individual or individuals.

@alwaysopen7970

4 жыл бұрын

Agenda 21 in action.

Bitterroot valley in Montana locked up by corporate thefts years ago.

Yes but most land like that is for fire access not for off-road vehicles.I have cut poppy like that but that doesn't give any way to go on my property. The city used to do it for fire Lanes.but now I do it myself I make sure that the government is not involved on my private property in More. For for that purpose.

It’s very simple, If the road is on private property then no trespassing allowed by the land owner. If the road is public property then a fence needs to be installed on each side of the road. The end Ps - I never went to college

@georgesymons9843

5 жыл бұрын

Actually....it very well could be a national forest access road or legal easement across private property to get to national forest or bom ground. And no.... no fencing is required to delineate the easement. But the issue is that the public has always been allowed access. There are all kinds of access roads where only firefighting and construction equipment have access. Just because federal employees can use a road to access federal lands dies not make it a publicly accessible easement.

@PFC_50_Grand

5 жыл бұрын

george symons I guess that’s option 3 then. Shared by everyone. This court is adjourned......and I never went to college 😂

Bill them for the road.

If new owners own the road they can shut it down if they want to. Its their land now. No one else's.

They have a right to protect your property or closed off sections but roads are open for Access for fire or emergency if the roads been established there for a long. Of time there public access roads in most States

It’s funny that I live 30 min from Cisco 😂 and just found this out.

@davidphillips6189

4 жыл бұрын

i live 30 minutes from that gate. used to go hiking there in the summer, snowshoeing there in the winter, what a shame.

Well they're billionaires so they automatically win.

federal roads thru federally controlled but privatly owned/leased land (in california, but its fed so should be the same) is often closed off to public access. most commonly by logging companies who dont want crowded access roads during the season, but not uncommon for personal lands too. since the feds usually retain ultimate control over the land they do maintain the roads (if thats what you call it). this was explained to me by a judge in federal court several years ago. public land is not synonymous with open or public access

If it is a public road there will be records indicating it..The fact they havent found any may indicate it wasnt really a public road as much as it was one that was used by the public..Any follow up information on this???

Typical rich. Someone should set up a massive drive thru event and livestream it! I'd watch!😁

I'm sorry... I heard that correctly. These brothers bought the land. It's now their land. They own it. It's no longer public property it is now privet property.

@mykasmith837

4 жыл бұрын

It sounds pretty simple to me.

If they allowed the roar to be built on their land then sure. Take the gates down. However. If it was made without their consent, then they have every right to close it down

Land owners do this here in Louisiana and Texas even on publicly paved roads. I don't own a vehicle so for me it can add hours to get from point a to b.

What can you do the gov already sold it

Build another road. Why should u have to do that u ask? Cause it's not the owners problem its yours.

@ironicchannelname6457

4 жыл бұрын

Its a public road

@ironicchannelname6457

4 жыл бұрын

Incase the name doesn't give it away you cant own a public road because you know its public

@escanorthelionsinofpride28

4 жыл бұрын

Caleb Harris but it’s on there property so there fore it’s private property and they can close it off

@ironicchannelname6457

4 жыл бұрын

@@escanorthelionsinofpride28 thats not how public roads work public roads that go through private property are still public roads

somebody know haw much is property tax for this land????

It all really depends on what the land lease says if it has it in the lease that there Is a public right of way then that is illegal but if it was never add to the lease then that's what you call and old fashion land lock

His land stay off.

So if it's theirs why can't they keep people out..

We need legislation on mass land purchases. These guys could potentially have so much sway on the future of our communities for which they have no true vested interest in.

How can they secure your family or heirs property?

No one can buy anything unless someone wants to sell it. Also it's there land they should be able to do whatever they want. Feeling dont matter and shouldnt matter by law.

WHO are they selling to!???? China???

@johndoe-vm3dh

4 жыл бұрын

Funny you say that because China is buying up the lands and corporate world as well

Once roads have been used by the public and tax-dollar maintained, they cannot legally close them-cut the gates down!

All I am saying is, stick welders make the gates not work for the owners and torches make the gates fall over, both are viable options.

@SCP_Bright

7 ай бұрын

And they can enforce their castle doctrine rights and you won't be anyone's problem anymore.