In conclusion, buy AP. Half the price and dropper bottles

@Evilminiature

3 ай бұрын

Don’t buy their old cheaper Warpaints. Buy their new ones that cost more then citadel. Well buy a lot, some are still being beat out by citadel paints. I didn’t like the Matt black or white so il stick with ak 3gen on those. Was disappointed with the shades, they tend to bubble.

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

I think some of the colours from their old range have not (yet?) made it across to Fanatic

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

That's the direction I think I will be going

@daddyyu-gi-oh4330

2 ай бұрын

This is the only comment that matters I picked up some of the greys, and barely needed a second coat… So cheap compared to Citadel… and the bottles are worth the purchase

Great comparison! I might have to try out some army painters and a heavy prime of greyscale

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

Well if they cover that well over black, I am sure grey would be a walk in tbe park

Awesome paints brother

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

😁

I have the complete fanatics AP set. I love it. All the points in the video I agree with. The Citadel red color was my standard to go by, and the AP set meets that standard to me in terms of pigmentation, drying time is excellent, and coverage is great. I also like the complete set different shades, so you don't need to mix colors, just pick a shade and highlight.

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

Actually, now you mention it, drying time did seem a bit quicker

I don't know if it's just my screen but the new Pure Red looks almost ... pink? Especially right next to the Citadel reds.

@roderblue

3 ай бұрын

100%

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

Certainly on the 'less vibrant' side.

@PrzybyszzMatplanety

3 ай бұрын

Because it is pink, just like Fur Brown. Fanatics are very desaturated and pastel paints in general due to white pigment being probably secret of their excellent coverage. Great coverage at the price of saturation.

Fanatic is a great range but the reds are really lacking, they don’t seem to be anything comparable to Mephiston, evil sunz or or the like

You say to ignore the actual colour difference and look at the application but every instance of the 'pure' red I've seen in this range looks more orange or even pink. What does it look like IRL?

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

Certainly not as bright as perhaps the name would suggest. Not exactly pink, but maybe a 'soft red' is about the best way I can describe it

Great video. I use Citadel, Vallejo and AP, and the main pull for me to AP is price, Citadel is just outrageous and their pots are not my favorite. Now there are some colors I use and will only use. For Orks I have my paint scheme and likely will never change, so it's just easier to go with what I know vs. trying something new color wise. Plus I airbrush a lot, so for big flat panels like this I am likely hitting a base coat with the airbrush vs. the brush.

@WastelandsRaceway

2 ай бұрын

Cost is always an important consideration. I do think, however, that this new Fanatic formulation puts AP in a stronger competitive position than on purely financial measures

Great job and nice comparisons. Been thinking about upgrading my old Army Painter stuff. And was also contemplating doing a video about Paint

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

The new AP formulation is without doubt a, vast improvement in terms of coverage. I suspect the colours are marginally less vibrant than their original formulation equivalent... more testimg needed

@diecast_MikeEspo

2 ай бұрын

How much does this set cost ? Thanks

@WastelandsRaceway

2 ай бұрын

@@diecast_MikeEspo RRP is US$199

Most brands are better than Citadel tbh. They need to up their game in term of paint.

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

Not wanting to get into a GW bashing spiral, but.... tbey need to up their game in a number of areas

the army painter looks like they are putting a lot of white into the paints.... bit of a disappointment

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

I suspect there is a strong proportion of titanium white pigment to give opacity. Testing some of the other colours will give a better idea. Watch this space!

it seems AP has been most succesful at improving their marketing. As a speedpaint v1 sucker i know first hand how they overhype their products these days. Now that the fanatic line has been out for a while and alot of testing has been done, i think its fair to say that they didnt make the worlds best miniature paint, they just caught up to the competition. Sadly they drink their own cool aid so they raised the prices accordingly. Do better AP!

@WastelandsRaceway

Ай бұрын

I think "world's best" is a big claim in any context, paint included. I do, however, think that the new Fanatic range is pretty good. In terms of performance vs cost, very good indeed. Speedpaint v.2 performs better in my experience than Contrast, and AP metallics and washes have always been good. But hey, Vallejo metals perform well too. Citadel are ok, but just sooo expensive in comparision.

@EspenShampoo25

Ай бұрын

@WastelandsRaceway I'm not following everyone on the fact that they are a cheaper alternative, not where I live atleast. Citadel are cheaper for me and yes they are 12ml while AP are 18ml, but let's be honest. Howany times have you accually emptied a bottle? I rarely ever have. So for me it's all about having a variety of colours and then citadel are cheaper. I however lean more on vallejo as they have great consistency, are a little bit cheaper than AP and a huge colour variety. I'm not impressed with AP sadly, I think they should go back to being a budget friendly alternative. Where I live they are not cheap (5$ a bottle)

@WastelandsRaceway

Ай бұрын

@@EspenShampoo25 Wow! That's a fair bit more expensive than here!

They are an obvious improvement from the original range of warpaints but i do not think they are "the best" hobby paints.

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

I am always dubious about 'the best' claims. They are pretty good though!

Interesting test for two of the big names. GW paints are fantastic, the fanatic range has me interested and if they are only as good as Citadel then for the price they are worth it.

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

Based on these two colours they do seem to be comparable

Citadel > fanatic

@WastelandsRaceway

2 ай бұрын

I guess that will depend on the criteria you are judging by

spoiler. Proacryl wins out.

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

If I could find anyone locally that stocks them, I would be keen to try them

@PrzybyszzMatplanety

3 ай бұрын

I guess you aren't even a competition if you can't be found on the shelves.

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

@@PrzybyszzMatplanety This is true

@PrzybyszzMatplanety

3 ай бұрын

@@WastelandsRaceway I'm gonna add a little more to that. Spoiler: Pro Acryl aren't that good to justify hunting them outside of USA. 9 out of 10 times if you see someone biased towards PA they're American without much access to Vallejo Model Color or AK Interactive (that's why they believe that Pro Acryl is a divine gift that is second to none). Yeah, they are one of the best brand in the hobby right now, but AK Interactive are practically the same and you lose absolutely nothing if you have AK in your paint rack and zero Pro Acryl. Plus, Monument paints don't work too much on wet palette. They quickly disintegrate and PA owner admitted he doesn't like wet palettes and isn't using them, therefore his paints are not manufactured with such things in mind.

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

@@PrzybyszzMatplanety We are a UK based channel, bit with a majority US viewership. So on occasion there is a cultural disconnect which is easy for us to lose sight of. Over here it's primarily the big 3 of GW, AP and Vallejo.

army painters marketing is becoming rather annoying...

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

Well I guess they have to sell their stuff. But the marketing hype was the motivation to test the paints, and they seem to live up to it.

@xxbrkdwnxx

3 ай бұрын

cry harder.

@WastelandsRaceway

3 ай бұрын

@@xxbrkdwnxx Thanks for your contribution

@clubjer

3 ай бұрын

Awwwwww....sniff sniff