𝗤𝘂𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆 - What's your favourite colour in the new range, and why will it be Orange? :P

Great tip around 2:00! It's actually extremely important to shake your Washes. The binder and retarders will separate easier than standard acrylics. With one-coat paints like Speedpaint, and hour densely pigmented Fanatic acrylics, you will always get the best performance when all of the ingredients are well agitated and mixed properly.

@TheArmyPainter

2 ай бұрын

Regarding your wishes for Dark Red and Dark Blue Tone, it's important to remember that these are Washes meant for shading. If you'd like a bit more punch, you should definitely lean into the Speedpaint range where coverage and vibrancy are found. ;)

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

oh wow thank you AP for checking out the video, and may i say firstly that there are some BEAUTIFUL colours in the new range!! :) I am a huge fan of the speedpaints range so far, they have made me change the way i paint and given me a new tool to use, i shade with them all the time if i want a bit of extra punch in some areas :) I am sure i will use all the washes in time, it was just that dark blue and red which i would have loved to be a bit more umph behind the finish, but as you say speedpaint works very well, it was just as a stand alone wash video that i thought i would mention it. Very excited to move onto the technical paints next :):)

@briarsandbantams

2 ай бұрын

@TheArmyPainter Murder Scene is one of my favorites in the new range. Thin that down a little and it's a crazy dark shade for deep reds.

Actually for me personally like the fact there is less of a color change on the raised areas , and it gets more in the creases, especially if your not looking to change the color tone of your paint job, so it actually looks like both the old an new have uses, but unfortunately here in the future it will be hard to get the old line as they are discontinuing it. great video, and thank you very much for making it. I was not sure if i wanted to get new washes as i still have most my bottles full, this really helped in what new ones i will pick up though

Thanks for the good review and answering a lot of answers for me before I invest!

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and im glad it was helpful! Please do post any questions you may have on anything else in the range as i will be happy to add that into a future video ):

Try using the Dark Red Tone over a red coat and the Dark Blue over a blue coat. Also, the Dark Red Tone works well on the top of anything you'd normally strong tone while the dark blue(or purple) works well in the shadows as an alternative to strong tone.

Great comparisons. I was about to give away my old AP paints. After watching this, I dug up the flesh wash and mid brown so i can keep them. Looking forward to your other videos on the range.

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! :) Me too! But after going through them all to see the colours and create some graphics for future videos i thought there were some paints which i thought are 'missing' in the new range - Especially the Greens - so when i get around to the full range ill talk about that more.

Strangley most of the fanatic washes tinted the surface much less than the olds and had higher contrast, but the strong tone and dark tone were the opposite

I’ve used the original Red Tone to shade coppery colours. Adds a smidge of depth, but a lot of warmth.

Great demonstration 👍

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it! - I know it's not a tutorial as such so i tried to make it a smidge entertaining/informative as well! :)

Looking forward to the Technical Paints video

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

ah thank you! Me too! Ive got a bunch of minis on my desk to be my test subjects haha :):)

That dark blue tone looks fantastic for metal and stone, or if you just want to tint something cool (as opposed to warm) with an airbrush.

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

Yes thats a good idea, i will give it a bash on some stone work! For metals i do like a thinned down Highlord Speed paint, works a treat! :)

Orange washes are always good shade colours for crisp yellows.

Shame about the mid brown. I wanted to get it for the Space Marine juice mix, but can't find it anywhere nearby now.

Just to clarify, particularly with your like-for-like 'revamped' comparison; aside from the choice of colours available now, the 'recipe' of the washes remains completely unchanged, they have not been 'revamped' or altered. The medium is just a wash without colour, it thins the wash without altering the colour, ie. no desaturation. While it 'looks' white coming out of the dropper, it isn't.

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

The washes definitely feel different from before but In a good way, they flow into the recesses more which is super :) The medium gives you more control so you can have a less intense colour. It will be quite handy if you want to slightly tint something or create a more subtle blend :)

@richardrussell7082

2 ай бұрын

@@SwordsandBrushes Yeah, so the medium doesn't 'desaturate' the colour, it thins out the coverage. And the wash recipe is definitely the same as it's always been, this has been directly confirmed by Adam Abramowicz. 👍

Thanks for the review. Its surprisingly hard to find any info on washes now compared to contrast style paitns

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! I thought i would break down the complete set into a variety of videos just to try and help out and show them on a miniature. Its not the easiest to see colours just as a swatch on a webstore, so i try to be as helpful as i can :)

Invest in a Vortex mixer, saves on the old arm. Trust me I have nerve problems and can't shake bottles.

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

i may very well do, thats a good idea - i will want to paint minis for as long as i can, and if it helps with saving the arm a bit then im all for it! :)

Sometimes you seem to forget that you were reviewing washes and not paints. I think it's awesome that the AP washes dont stain the surface too much. For everything else, there is speedpaint.

@coolguy10060

2 ай бұрын

I noticed that they stain very little, actually more preferably i geuss. I'd rather wash something 2 or 3 times to get the right amount instead of 1 time and regretting it

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

Im very much on the side of non staining, i do prefer these washes for sure. What i was hoping to come across in the video is that i wish some colours had a bit more punch to them so they were a stronger colour :)

@tutubeater1

2 ай бұрын

As you pointed out, Rob, the new washed don’t overpower the underlying color as much as the older ones did which is perfect for my paint style in which I wet blend, glaze and then wash over everything like James Wappel did in his shaded base coat technique!

I like the new dark and strong skin shades. They look like they can be used to make some awesome unike wooden terrain pieces or furnitures. But my ❤ belongs to the magenta tone! So many awesome fantasy stuff comes to mind! Biggest disapointment: the blue. It is maybe not really bad, but to match my taste it needs to be more vibrant.

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

Im on the same age as you :) The strong skin wash is nice on a bronze colour too so give that a try :) But yes it's nice to have some more darker colours for such things as wood - as all i really used before was strong tone or light tone! :)

The dark blue will be good for a final armor wash. Adding a little blue to the wash always seems to make the silver pop more.

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

oh yes im a fan of a tinted blue armour! Just adds a bit more to a silver miniature :)

Purple Tone is my favorite AP product. Hove Dweller Purple Speedpaint is in a close second.

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

I know all about your purple fettish! haha :)

Just bought a ton of the old ones, my local hobby shop was selling them for 1€/bottle to make room for the fanatic line.

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

hot dog thats awesome! Always love a good deal :)

i do like the magenta colour. As far as orange I've been paint more with it as well as yellow and red since they are the common difficult colors. I'm hoping that my local store will stock these paints if not amazon

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

I think there will always be a project or mini that comes along where you can try a paint that doesn't get to be used often, ill use that orange!! haha Fingers crossed for you that your local store will stock them :):)

The new orange tone looks like it'd be ideal for adding warmth either from a bright light or a glowing underglow, not to mention warm shadows with a cold top

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

A good example! I think i may have to find a mini or two which will make me use the orange :)

@dagdamar2000

Күн бұрын

I am thinking of trying o s l . Starting with a burning torch . I was thinking of using this to create the affect? Am I completely out to lunch or would that work?

I dont know if I got a bad batch but my old dark tone is really glossy. Should I buy a fanatic dark tone?

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

Im pretty certain that it will be a case of separating slightly if its been on a shelf somewhere for a while - my old Strong tone was exactly the same - if you take the plastic nozzle off and use a parperclip (straighten it first) or a bit of clean metal you should find that you will be able to dislodge a gunk like gel at the bottom. Give it a really good stir and it should start to mix in with the rest of the liquid in the paint. Pop the nozzle and lid back on and give it a good shake - that should do it :):)

Ох спасибо за проделанную работу, пожалуй я лучше куплю старый набор ,чем этот )

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

Happy to show them on some models and share my thoughts. There are advantages to both old and new. But there is a clear positive for the new paints on the next video when I release that :)

Dark red tone could be nice to shade gold armour, are these too matt? I remember the old ones were too glossy for me, except for shading metallics

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

That could be a good idea for the dark red! I tried Strong Skin wash o weapon bronze yesterday and that worked nicely :) Yes they dry matt, so you shouldn't have a problem there :)

@hav6301

2 ай бұрын

@@SwordsandBrushes in fact I like when they're not super matt for metallics. Currently I use some VGC for non metallics and I keep my citadel for metallics.

I wanted to like the new army painter set so much. Tried em, and was on board. After getting the full set, and then working with them for a few weeks, I kept going back to my pro acryl.

@CoconutCheez

2 ай бұрын

Interest to know why you are going back to ProAcryl. I also got the full set, and I'm planning to get a few bottles of ProAcryl to complement. The problem I'm having with the full set is saturation.

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

ah no! Any colours you were not keen on? It would be interesting to see what others think :)

@kaz9357

2 ай бұрын

@SwordsandBrushes that's the thing. I liked the color range. It's just, the new paints felt so thick, I had a harder time finding the right consistency. I guess I had just learned to use the speed paint and gel based pro to a happy level, that adjusting to something new didn't work. Fortunately, I got them a good home in my hobby group, so they didn't go to waste. I really wanted to love them, but it just didn't hit for me. I'm not a good enough or experienced enough painter to learn to adapt to different paint consistencies I suppose.

They dropped mid-brown? That one is my favorite D:

All those gobbos should switch over to 25mm square bases and this channel go balls deep into The Old World.

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

Ah dont say that, im very very tempted to rebase my goblin army to square bases! and then updating the paint job on them with the new AP paints

@briarsandbantams

2 ай бұрын

@@SwordsandBrushes There's no takes backsies. What's been said can never be unsaid. Besides, they're easy minis to paint. You'll breeze right through them.

even a color you don’t care for is gonna have its uses

@JadeHarleyCoffeeMug

2 ай бұрын

also the more vibrant colors seem to be speedpaint’s domain now, especially with the skin tones

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely! There is always going to be something to use a colour on / or try something different to see the end result. I look forward to trying the main range! Although i already have picked out a few favourite colours :)

Huh. I thought they hadn’t changed the formula

@jasoncarpenter5974

2 ай бұрын

They haven’t.

@CoconutCheez

2 ай бұрын

I feel the jury is still out on that one. AP claims the washes haven't changed. But a few people had mentioned they felt the washes are different.

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

They feel a bit different, They seem to flow more into the recesses - which i like and would find really useful. There are just a couple colours that i wish were a bit more vibrant/intense such as the Blue, Dark Blue & Dark Red. Overall though i'm fairly satisfied with what i have seen so far - but tickle my elbow i wish they had Flesh wash!

@Phoenikuz

2 ай бұрын

I don't care what they say at this point - they have changed something in formula of the washes for sure. But for the better! I love the new washes, but I cant' stand the fact that they keep touting the line of not having changed anything, when it's obvious they have...

I use tattoo inks

@SwordsandBrushes

8 сағат бұрын

Ah cool! What are they like and please do share a brand - someone else may find it useful :)

Sounds like you’re complaining the dark red is… dark red.

@SwordsandBrushes

9 сағат бұрын

I just wish it was a nice punchy dark red, but its that and dark blue which seem to be a bit drab compared to the other colours.

They’re the same as the old formula. Army Painter keeps saying there is no difference.

@I_Hate_Onions

2 ай бұрын

There are still new colors and some missing so still a relevant video.

@SwordsandBrushes

2 ай бұрын

They feel a bit different, but in a better way - they flow into the recesses more instead of sitting on top - which is great for "Slapping on the Wash!" :)

@VicodinElmo

Ай бұрын

The demonstration of the washes here says otherwise.