Simple solution - keep the tension at.... ...69, problem solved

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

kg?

@whitemaz3756

4 ай бұрын

Yep. 180 x 90-60-90 cm. Blue eyed brunette possibly..

@JV-py3lg

Ай бұрын

😂

I never like full poly string until I accidentally strung Wilson Revolve at 40 lbs, good power and spin

I'm a senior player with a Yonex Astral 115, which I string at 25lbs with a soft string. I get a lot more spin and more launch than with racquets with the standard head size and tension. I have had several opponents adopt the looser strings (30 lbs) after trying my setup. It allows us older folk to regain some of our lost pace.

I moved from 50/52 down to now 44lbs. Best thing I've done for my particular game as I've always been accurate and the increased power has been absolutely a huge difference maker for me. Hit harder on both sides and deeper consistently. Initially missed a bit more but now I'm as consistent as I was with the higher tension once I adjusted.

Very cool!! Love seeing the objective side of these things.

Great stuff Beckett. Thanks for starting this as I’m not convinced on low tensions. I did find I had to swing a lot harder to control my forehand and it had amazing depth and spin. Problem is my backhand is flat and harder time controlling. As much as it’s supposed to be easier on the arm, I find it harder because the ball stays on the strings longer and and I have to swing harder so I tire out faster. That’s my unscientific take. Love to hear more 9on your study with seingvision and data.

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

Take makes sense to me. I think there's a reason we see pro's with heavier racquets string tighter and those with lighter racquets string looser, on average of course. Heavier sticks require less RHS for same power so the control comes more from the racquet, whereas with lighter sticks and high RHS, control comes from spin. I think for the average rec player, its better to rely on racquet than high RHS. Your racquet's weight won't crack under pressure, but your technique definitely might. Hot take, but I think this is a big contributing factor to why younger gens haven't broken through as they should have. You need insanely high RHS (Sinner, Alcaraz) to beat Djoker in a GS final and maintain that under pressure is tough. On the otherhand, Djoker just uses his heavy racquet to keep the ball deep without really redlining his game.

Should do 1st and second serves using both racquets. You can also have people test wearing earplugs so they don't know which racquet is the high or low tension frame.

Yonex sticks shine at 45-48lbs, full poly, everyone should try it if they Yoooonex. More power for sure, more sweeetspot, I'm not scientifically sure but It feels like it compared to 50 plus or 50-55lbs.

@nicholastsinonis

4 ай бұрын

Vcore 98 2021. I tried to go to 45 pounds from 50 and the fence was the new baseline for me. Maybe my technique but I could not control the ball.

@yonexfan12

4 ай бұрын

@@nicholastsinonis It does make a difference to the point of needing to adjust, but you can crank the rpms. Maybe you already hit hard enough and have good technique?

@nicholastsinonis

4 ай бұрын

@yonexfan12 I am a 4.0 player, so my technique definitely needs improvement. I try to hit hard, but is not something exceptional. What I can say, though, is that yonex rackets play better with yonex strings. I will give another try with a different string to see how 45 goes.

@yonexfan12

4 ай бұрын

@@nicholastsinonis nice, try a solinco, tour bite or confid or hyperg

@nicholastsinonis

4 ай бұрын

@@yonexfan12 in my clash 100 i loved hyper g. in vcore 98 did not see much of a difference between that and tourna big hitter 7 for example. only string i liked was polytour. full bed. did not liked hybrid with hawk. In vcore 100 i liked more strings. Although in this racket i feel a small difference between the different strings, the tension plays a huge role. if i go 2-3lbs up i find it hard to hit with power and if i go 2-3 lbs down balls fly.

In the summer i have to restring my rackets about 2kg tighter than in winter to keep the ball within the lines consistently. Temperature increase makes everything more jumpy and powerful. The balls, the court, the strings, the player. Winter vs summer temperatures differ about 15 to 20 degrees Celsius. So yes a lower tension gives you more power.

It's possible that with lower tensions being more comfortable, the swing is more relaxed since you don't anticipate a harsh contact. I think a more relaxed swing would be faster at ball contact

They dd an experiment at TW a while back starting at 55 lbs and dropping the tension in 5 lb increments, and power definitely increased, but I'd have to think there's a certain tension where power and control are optimized, its just a matter of finding it!

@MrW8ns3a

4 ай бұрын

Cud u Link pls??

@uchihasasuke7436

4 ай бұрын

Its on the TW forums somewhere@@MrW8ns3a

I definitely notice a drop in control from just a few lbs lower tension. It makes a big difference. Great video with the stats! Really cool to see. Thank you

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

thanks for watching! How low have you ventured?

@aisthpaoitht

4 ай бұрын

@@TennCom not very far. I dropped a few lbs for winter and hated it

@ql3670

Ай бұрын

@@aisthpaoitht I initially hated it just like you did, mostly because the launch angle increased and I couldn't rip it anymore. Then I realized that if I closed the racquet face at contact a bit more with lower tension, I could have the same launch angle again, and I could hit hard without hitting out again. It took me a long time to adjust, changing only 2-3 lbs each time. But I have lowered a lot over the years.

I’ve tried Mannarino levels and still will venture down to 25 lbs again at some point. Had it on a Volkl PB 8 100 16x18. However it’s not my preferred racquet. I preferred setup is Head Microgel Radical 98 weighted up to 225g in butt cap. I used Head Sonic Pro 17g strings at 55lbs. I have 2 like this so tomorrow I will check the and record a session as one was strung over 6 weeks ago and has likely lost a lot of tension.

You could probably do 2 videos on the specific pros and cons of high tension stringing and another one for the low stringing.. some may need justification on why they need a 69lbs tension..

Very interesting video. I suggest alternating between the different racquets rapidly. Otherwise it is human nature to compensate for looser tension / more power by adding top spin to keep it in. So many things to account for in a test like this. Awesome

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

An absolute honour, thanks for the feedback!

I am playing much better with lower tensions while using control racquets like pro staff 97 and with higher tension while using power/spin racquet like Radical MP, especially in terms of depth. I don't have any way to measure ball speed, but from my sparing partner's perspective it doesn't change much. Anyway, great video - as always.

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

partner's perspective is super important IMO, an oversight by me, but will include if we make a follow up

Love the science based approach! There are so many tennis myths out there. You've been leading the way as the tennis myth buster! :)

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

thanks! I'm actually pretty surprised with the results, I didn't think I'd see much of a difference, though Simon's balls could have definitely skewed things

What is the manufacturer recommended string tension RANGE for the racket you used?

I think a lot depends on the cordage as Luxilon recommends -10% less than normal and 4G for example can work well at 36lbs. At the same time, the Tecnifibre Razor Soft String recommends an absolute minimum of 49 lbs. If the test is not with one or only a few chords it will not be correct.

I personally think that lower tension provide a better feel and control for an advanced player.When I was a kid , my tension was high 25/25 kg and I played like this until covid period. Moved to 24/23 kg setup and I liked it. Last year, went down even more to 23/22kg setup with a new racquet and strings(ezone tour + babobat hurricane). Overall, lower tension provide “free” power and allows me to be more compact on my shots , which is quite beneficial for faster surfaces like hard and carpet (main surfaces at UK college team training sessions and competitions). In a later future, I am considering going even lower as my level of my tennis is rising.

I already did a seperate analysis for the stings that I had tested on my racquets in order to optimize performance . There are multiple variables to consider . The type of racquet and its function , soft or hard balls and type string types and gauges , string initial spacings and string syiffnesses for their pocketing function and poss racquet color . Testing the strings for tension till hitting a comfort level was key . Dunlop CX 200 tour 18x20 2021 model . Dunlop Iconic All full bed soft multi , stiffness 138 . Initially strung at 52 pounds . At 42 pounds it was too stiff and yet precise . When it droped to 36 lbs comfort drastically increased and power generation increased . Harder balls pocketed more and negated any hard ball discomfort . Speed on this racquet is technique . To do so you need to grip it at the but cap and extend it for speed . Poly 18 gauge full TF razorcode . Tension 42 initially , but it optimized at 36 . Comfort and spin drastically increased but control decreased . A full 18 was not optimal . String spacing on the crosses matter . Hybrids optimized performance hybrid head pps 17 mains 42 , razorcode 18 crosses 36 . I am unsure but since I have 2 of the same gen of the cx 200 tour's the black le version feels stiffer and requires modification . Same weight I'm customization different balnces and sw . Initially tests done on 1 cx 200 tour 18x30 2021 edition red/ black version weight pre strung 311 , 12 points h.l , 272 sw . 2nd limited edition racquet initial weight 315 7 points 9 points h.l droped to 7 with strings sw 315 with strings . Balancing string tension to string comfort is difficult . Knowing your racquet is key without crossing the line . The same goes for weight . This is where touchvand feel matters .

I use stock from an old 2000's ProKennex Jr Ace Pro Power Contour in Red and Blue an Aluminum racquet where stock strings are/were rather stiff when model came out in red and blue where a bonus is since 2000's strings are now stiffer due to age and I like all of this because I do not get enough speed on my own for a lower tension to be worth using. Reason I like strings tight on cheaper Aluminum racquets is the bridge is non connected on bridge/handle section and on older racquets/very cheap Aluminum racquets is a bridge is not like most modern $30 on up racquets. I have one from 2000's and 2 are rom 2023 e-Bay with one new on way from e-Bay. I did redo grip on all 3 in black cloth tape/hockey tape in a wide barely overlapping spiral and on open bottom end of tape, Loctite Ultra Gel Control (waterproof) and did on original racquet in 2020 a mat spray-paint becuse original paint on specific racquet was coming off in tiny pieces. Even if I was not using specific model of racquet I would be as an adult buying a 25 inch or 26 inch racquet model and using becuse of my size.

Great video and thx for including the stats analysis. Is the low tension only recommended for poly strings? I have tennis elbow (mostly due to poor technique) and I've using hybrid string setup at 47 lbs. My stringer guy doesn't recommend I go lower than 45 lbs with a multi string (too loose, problems with snap back, quicker wear). Are the lower tensions only good for poly strings?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

I haven't tried any nylons below 50lbs. There are guys on tour using gut hybrids in the 40s for sure. I don't think there's any harm is trying it out, but if you do, i would recommend putting the nylon in the mains and stringing with a differential, say 45lbs in the mains at 42lbs in the crosses.

Someone probably already mentioned it, but hitting off a ball machine will control some of the variables

I tried a stick at 30lbs and it was powerful but the thing I noticed the most was the much louder pinging sound compared to my normal 45lbs. I t was pretty annoying; I used vibration dampeners in both and it sounded like I was not using one in the 30lbs stick.

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

Yeah sound is such a big part of the hitting experience, I would have a hard time adjusting to something that sounded kinda broken

I enjoy your videos very much and find them informative with great attention to detail. I have a question regarding the variance in tension between mains and crosses. Generally most pros have a variance of 3 lbs or so lower in the crosses but some have the set up in reverse, i.e. 3 lbs higher in the crosses. Could you comment on the virtue of either set up? Many thanks...

@TennCom

2 ай бұрын

I don't think there are any certain takeaways we can have here. Its pretty normal to string gut tighter in a poly/gut hybrid to match the stiffnesses between the two strings. I've also seen Shelton do this except with his poly/poly hybrid because Polytour Pro is softer. Then I've also heard that its a European thing to string crosses looser than mains because the cross strings are shorter. Some people believe looser crosses increase snapback so you get more spin, but I havent seen any legit data or studies on tension having correlation with spin.

@raidraid6672

2 ай бұрын

@@TennCom makes a lot of sense. Thanks for your response.

...very interesting how many things get better with the lower tension....

I feel like lower does help with easier depth, but I feel like I can't hit a shallower cross court forehand with confidence and pace. For me, lower also helps with more pop with a flat 1st serve. Oh yeah also a lot more arm friendly with lower tension.

Do you guys have experience with prepackaged Tour Bite/Vanquish? What is its most optimal tension for controlled plushness?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

no experience sadly

Is the Head Graphene XT Speed MP a better racket or Wilson Blade 98 V6 (no countervail)?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

i haven't tried either so tie

Since when did one punch man play tennis?

Love your videos, Would you buy a Wilson Blade V8 16x19 for 179 USD or Pure Aero 98 for regular price. I am currently using Prince Warrior 100 ESP from 2014 and play with lots of spin and power .

@bowsershark

4 ай бұрын

Blade for more control, babolot for more power.

tennis magazine once stated that a lower tension would lead to a deeper launch but not more velocity

Jack Sock and Isner both strung at 36. I'm an over 55 4.0 and string my Pro Staff with syn-gut at 28. Previously used poly at 42. Once I got used to it, my game improved 20%. I serve and volley and have compact ground strokes. Definitely worth experimenting to see what works for you.

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

omg syngut at 28lbs thats epic

@TheJstaples

3 күн бұрын

Why did you go with syngut vs just staying with poly when you dropped down to 28? Do you have arm issues?

@billfly2186

3 күн бұрын

@@TheJstaples I just didn't care for the plastic feeling of the poly.

I'm currently playing with PA 2023 strung with MSV Swift black @ 18kg. Great comfort, depth and forgiveness. Yes, sometimes I spray the ball to the fence (especially on volleys) but it's nothing I can't adjust to. And also great spin at low tension.

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

Spraying to the back fence merely serves to intimate the opponent with your immense power

My prestige mp 95 strung 17g Natural VS 17g 18x20, amazing, 47 ibs , when I got it used unplayable - was strung tighter possibly 55 ibs, next time will string at 45ibs or 40 ibs, black cap bumper , florescent red lettering,also have A Head TXP, USA model

@astarothgr

4 ай бұрын

tension?

@jonienglish3231

4 ай бұрын

@@astarothgr 47 ibs

@jonienglish3231

4 ай бұрын

@@astarothgr also have 1st gen Head TXP USA

I suspect that if you go to the very other extreme (manarino like 20 lbs or even 10 lbs) that you would actually get a decrease in power. If you want to optimize for power, I think you have to try all the ranges from 0 - 50 lbs and see where the sweet spot is. I also suspect that spin would decrease the lower tension you go and thus ball control. So without changing technique, there should be an optimal tension to get more power for the purposes of achieving 1) depth and 2) penetration on the court (aka outputs of increased power). Now what this doesn't consider is that your ball flight completely changes from a more spinny to flatter shot. And this is up to the individual player to determine if the trade-off is beneficial to their game.

Hey Beckett, I am looking for some new strings and was wondering if you have tips. I am an attacking player(around 4.5) that hits a powerfull serve and forehand and i try to hit with a lot of spin

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

What are you using now?

@peterheide4077

4 ай бұрын

@@TennCom some random poly string i found that was on sale called killer performance so nothing from a major brand as far as i can tell its quite durable and a smooth round string. I have to admit that untill i foundation your video's i havent given strings much thought

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

@@peterheide4077 It's an honour to spread the disease of over thinking strings hahaha. I would try Tourna Silver 7 Tour or Lynx Tour. These are both great options that prioritize spin, control and playability duration with I think is ideal for those at 4.5+. If you want something softer, I think Grapplesnake Tour Sniper is a notch above the other ones, but it might not be easy to get depending on where you are.

@peterheide4077

4 ай бұрын

@@TennCom Thanks for the help and the fast responses i'll try out some of them! And boy does overthinking come easy with so many types of strings hahaha

@johnmalone1189

3 ай бұрын

Grapplesnake make great strings. I prefer M8 & Alpha & may try them at slightly lower tensions. I've tried Cube & Game Changer & they really don't fit for my use but could be the frames they're in. Game Changer in Volkl C10 Pro & Cube in Yonex V-Vore 98 & Ezone 98. Thoughts?

Stats... one thing that jumps out at me is that yes, average ball speed went up by 2 mph. BUT, you're also hitting flatter. That alone may account for the difference. If you actively CHOOSE to put more energy into spin, then by definition, that energy is lost in terms of forward propulsion. You are making a deliberate decision to alter the percentage of energy going "upwards" (spin) versus "forwards" (speed). From *MY* initial reading of this, all it tells me, is that you are choosing to hit the ball flatter. The byproduct of that is pretty obvious. More speed.

Blade v9, strung around 22kg with tour bite, just perfect, need to properly spin the ball tho.

@christopheradam6967

4 ай бұрын

Interesting. Why did you string 22 on the blade? Is it a 98?

@karimbeydoun3052

4 ай бұрын

@@christopheradam6967 it is a 98. Try to go lower, it feels much nicer, you feel the ball within your strings when hitting, just need to add more spin by accelerating the head and flicking your wrist earlier

On tour, the players have high and low tensions and they all serve at 200km/h . What does that mean ?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

What are you getting at?

I’m using head speed pro. Using head rip control strings. Should I notice much different in 52 and 55lbs tension? What tension would you recommend on these strings

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

I think 55lbs would be good. I remember my customers who used Rip always preferred higher tensions. That string has a tendency to drop tension, so we always prestretched them as well

@michaelosullivan4503

4 ай бұрын

Thank you. I have been playing around with the tension lately and I had 55 which I liked. Then last week I got 52 in my second raquet and feel like I am hitting balls too long. Not sure if it’s in my head and if it can make that much of a difference

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

@@michaelosullivan4503 its both. Tension is a factor but us tennis players are so easily psyched out. I've been in your position several times.

more power more spin, bigger sweet spot

Low tension yields more power. A multi on the mains yields even more.. Please try Prince Premier Touch on the mains at 3lbs higher than the cross.. and Toroline Snapper on the crosses. The Prince is the closest multi that I've been able to find that is similar to natural gut. (Recently Murray "finally" changed to gut mains and poly crosses. Agassi has said to play with the heaviest racket and loosest tension possible..)

@TennCom

3 ай бұрын

I think its my technique, but whenever I test multi's I have a pretty hard time hitting a powerful shot. Probably a life time of using poly and relying on spin to great control.

@rafalstachowiak3361

3 ай бұрын

Strokes look fine (think Medvedev.. no one complains about him 😅) power is a function of tension, but also string elasticity and energy return) the tension on the crosses dictate power.. I play with a "low" power box frame head Liquidmetal Prestige MP 18/20. This is when head still measured head size internally, so somewhere with a 95sq in racket.. my mains are at 53lb (PPT) crosses are always looser (50lbs, Toro snapper) I've got a creaky wrist due to my indoor soccer days and crashing the boards. But this combo is plush, powerful and plays like a "Cadillac." Try it out. (Power in the string bed comes from low tensioned crosses) Snapper had great lubricity and with allow the PPT to glide. Also if you string at one uniform string tension the mains are longer and crosses with feel stiffer. String crosses lower than mains.. try my setup.. trust me 😊

Test how it affects your serve. Velocity and accuracy can be better gauged. This also takes out the variable of your opponent’s ball.

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

You don't think the opponent's ball is important? Pure power is one thing, but being able to use the power in a rally or match is something else entirely.

I think for it to be scientific you'd need to use the same racket, string it fresh at 60 or whatever, then restring it at 40 or even 20 or something. Also use the same ball etc. If it's possible to make some sort of machine it would take the human element out of it - Maybe just a drop ball and a racket on a rotating arm.

So if you had to pick three poly strings, that really seem to shine at low tensions, what would be your recommendations? I know you mentioned grapple steak M8 previously as being a good choice at low tensions. What would the other two be?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

Anything stiff honestly. Lots of pro's using ALU Power at low tensions, I probably wouldn't due to price to playability longevity factor, but my usual suspects would be on the list. Honestly, I haven't strung much below 50lbs so it's hard to say anything definitive.

@markmoore5981

4 ай бұрын

@@TennCom This sort of conforms my suspicions as I have been trying a number of polys at low tensions the last 3 months and the softer they are the worse the results have been so far at 30 pounds - Restring Zero was super launchy at that tension for example while Grapplesnake M8 was terrific! So the key you think is stiffer strings at very low tensions so as to retain some of the poly's integrity below 40 pounds? If so, given your favorites, I am thinking Tour Sniper, Confidential, Tour Bite, maybe Toroline Toro Toro?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

@@markmoore5981 I bet the Tecnifibre stuff would be good. Like Ice Code specifically.

@markmoorefineart7453

4 ай бұрын

@@TennComRazor code?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

@@markmoorefineart7453 prob. I’ve only tried Red Code Wax but from what I’ve ready TF favours stiffness. Even Razor Soft isn’t that soft apparently

Which extreme did you use by chance?

@TennCom

3 ай бұрын

its the 360+ Tour modified to something like 350g, 31.5cm 330SW or thereabouts I can't remember exactly

That cardigan is 🔥🔥🔥

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

ty my gf picked it (i have no style)

To me very low tensions (35-40 lbs) mean effortless swings but bland shots at the end. When you increase tension, you are somehow pushed to improve your stroke and the ball end up being much heavier.

@akbarberlian

4 ай бұрын

I have similar experience

@livingtribunal4110

4 ай бұрын

Yep. For me as soon as my tension drops from 55lb to around 50-52lb, I'm contacting the re-stringer...

thoughts on light racquets when low tension

@TennCom

3 ай бұрын

The lighter the lower the tension IMO, especially for poly

@shejustcant

3 ай бұрын

@@TennCom from my experience this is definintely true.

Mr.Beckett the wise, how are you liking the pure aero 98?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

hmmmm... the wise is pondering... I like the racquet as a very good consumer product but I dont enjoy playing with it very much because its so set in its way. Sometimes when I use it, it feels like I'm playing tennis for the racquet, not using the racquet to play my tennis.

No idea how people keep the ball inside the lines at anything under _45lb_ tension!! Insane control to be able to do that consistently

Nice experiment. I've tried as low as 30 lbs, and personally found that it had less power than 40 lbs. Is this something you're willing to test?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

ye i think we need to explore the limits of LOW

My next question is, is there a drop off? Like, is it linear all the way down or is there a point where there's a drop off? What if you take off another 14 lbs and and go Mannarino at 26 lbs? How would it compare?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

I think the consensus is that the threshold is about 40lbs, but that's seems to fall under the category of "general knowledge without empirical evidence." How do you think we should test this? 40lbs v 30lbs?

@foodadbobd

4 ай бұрын

I personally would love to see 40 vs 30. I feel like at the rec level you kinda see two camps. Those that really care about string tension and those that don't. Folks that "care" I feel overwhelmingly string quite high. Mid to low 50s and they are the same types of people that will cut out their strings after several sessions. The folks that "don't care", usually string lower, in the mid to low 40s because they prioritize comfort. I'm definitely in the "I don't care" camp and string around 45. I would imagine that by the time my string breaks, I'm actually playing in the mid 30s if not low 30s. I feel like this encapsulate the majority of rec players out there because we're not often changing out our strings. This is also where it's prone to so many more myths. For example, how does a 30 lb "dead" poly compare to a freshly strung 30 lb poly? When you drop to 30, how does that compare to 40 lb? Like, if pros are stringing lower nowadays in the mid 40s, why do us rec players feel the need to string in the 50s? Like, does a 4.0-4.5 really need more "control" or is it just an issue with timing? If a pro with 2x faster racket head speed playing with mid 40s full poly, I don't think the issue is that we're swinging too fast lol @@TennCom

I have to say that it is true, but the most power you'll get is about adding weight to the racket, you must do the experiment, with lower tension and adding just 10gr to the core of the racket. It would be very interesting.

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

what would you hope to discover by changing two variables at once?

@andreamassacci7942

4 ай бұрын

@@TennCom No, no I think you could do a video also with the added weight, and see how much does adding weight (on differente places and different balances), influence the ball speed and other factors. More or less than string tension, I do think it would a great video.

Aero 100 @ 58 lbs ... undefeated in my Sunday league

why does the video end so abruptly?

You need to take the person out of the equation if you really want to get to the nitty gritty. I think as a player you would adjust your swing / path based on the result to keep the ball in within your skill. You may give it less brush since low tension would give you more spin / launch angle and thus more of your swing goes to plowing the ball. You can also just serve flat to see (not as accurate but better than hitting balls from someone). With serving you take out incoming speed and basically hitting a stationary ball. With serving best to measure with slomo camera and count frames for ball to travel x ball lengths away than to frame count with it landing in court. Less variation on depth / angle of serve. I think the best way is ball feeder, fixed racket, slow mo camera and you can measure it better to answer the power question. Much less variables and all you are measuring is rebound off the racket.

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

Initially, I wanted to have a ball machine to control the pace of the incoming ball, but for real world application, I think it's really important to have the variability of another player on the other side of the court. Having to move around, deal with different balls, test your own control, is a huge part of the game. Taking that stuff away, in my opinion, makes the model too disconnected from real world application. Tennis Warehouse has done these kinds of isolated tests and they all say that lower tensions lead to more power. For me, the question is more about whether on not the player can harness that additional power in a real world situation.

@dimcorner

4 ай бұрын

@@TennComMaybe do a 2 section video? 1st without people what does the string give you. Brace a racket (head and handle) to something and shoot ball at it. Frame count how many frames does it take the ball to bounce back 2 ball lengths? 2nd how does it actually feel. Does softening up the string bed give you more comfort against incoming balls and thus you can swing harder or is it the string working? Could it be also that naturally higher launch angles changes your swing to be more thru the ball instead of brushing (trading some spin for more thru the ball hitting)? If only I had the time to do this but it would be fun! Great channel and content and keep it up!!

Let's think string are like an elastic rubber, the rubber with less tension can ben backwards and giving more powe than the tensed one. I'll make a video with that...

Lowest i've gone is with Gosen Poly Professional 1.29mm white..(TWU Stiffness: 186.3 lbs/in) at 43 lbs. On my Pro Staff 97 v10 2014. Felt too powerfull and trampoliny. 47 lbs was better. Then 50 lbs. Now will try 54 lbs with TopSpin CyberBlue 1.30mm...a bit less soft and more dampened response. I love controlled and plush strings.

I always feel bad about a tension above 52 since so many pros are in the 40s now

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

Pro's are good tho, we suck and need the control.

That cross-court forehand is achieved with FOOTWORK not swing 🤷‍♂️ lol my opinion

head weight=power

hey, was wondering what your stringing setup was. Maybe you could go a bit more in depth about it?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

Like my machine? My 1 year anniversary with it is coming up so was thinking of doing like a "1 year later" type thing. its a Gamma X6 FC with a Wise Tension head

@user-wp7sn6vh4b

4 ай бұрын

@@TennCom I actually am thinking about getting into stringing as me and my brother both play a fairly high level of tennis and break strings fairly often.Was wondering if you had any knowledge or suggestions you could pass on?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

@@user-wp7sn6vh4b Either get something super cheap like a Klippermate, knowning it'll take longer, or get the nicest one you can affford. Try to get 6 point mount and fixed clamps if you can. Drop weight is fine if you only need a few racquets per month, but you might want to go crank if its a few per week. Crank is less accurate but faster. Drop weight can be super accurate if you are diligent.

@user-wp7sn6vh4b

4 ай бұрын

@@TennCom I am located in canada, did you buy yours new or used?

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

@@user-wp7sn6vh4b new from racquet guys

Play in competition. I wonder if you will launch more under pressure with lower revision

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

in competition i hit the fence or the bottom of the net... that's why i make videos about how to blame your equipment instead of how to win matches

@gmow99

4 ай бұрын

@@TennCom haha. Gotta spend more money on new rackets to blame!

"funny" because when i restarted toplay tennis i asked to string my racquet @54lbs, and today i went to the stringer and ask for 40lbs... (Tennis is not my favorite sport, i played mostly soccer)Mainly because when i played 25years ago i used a 102 sq 16x19 full bed natural gut @25kg...and now that i used a 100 sq 18x20 with copoly+ me getting old(er)...in order to "approach" the past sensation i m trying to lower the tension

If Vision became a tennis player:

The main thing about tension : the higher your tension the quicker the product lose his proprieties. The lower the tension, the longer it keeps it.

sample size is too low. test should have been done with 10x more shots at least. More if you want to make conclusions on specific slices like BH vs FH and cross court vs down the line

You increased your average mph with low tensions, but you mention just before how much more often you are hitting flat FH instead of just topspin. Did you account for the difference in shot type when calculating the average speed? Seems like that would be statistically significant over the course of 10 minutes.

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

Swing Vision calculates speed as the average from point to point and they don't really calculate spin or height over the net. So I can't really factor in anything empirical about that other my feeling about how I was playing. Its definitely possible that the tighter racquet hit a heavier ball with more spin. Another viewer mention having the opponent rate the heaviness of the ball would be useful information.

@TheJstaples

3 күн бұрын

​@@TennComwouldn't lower tension increase the ability of the strings to slide and snap back which would help with spin too?

This is not the way to test it. This seems like a SwingVision ad . A simple test would be fix both racquets and bounce the same ball off both from the same height and see which one bounces higher . The higher bounce means more trampoline effect = more power.

@TennCom

2 ай бұрын

I see your point, but I think its important to test a swinging racquet in the hands of a player. There's a lot more we could have done for more conclusive results, no doubt, but taking the player out of the equation feels like it kills the practical applications of the test.

@sarkology

2 ай бұрын

@@TennComtaking the player out of the equation is exactly what you should be doing to get an actual result. Eliminate variables to isolate the one variable you’re solving for.

Bro your swing isn't even close to a pro's so obviously you will land balls in with that 2mph swing speed

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

i am actually a former pro you can find my name listed under several ITF's where i earned points

guys just play pickleball it’s better than tennis sue me (Don’t sue me I’m joking)

@MJCE

4 ай бұрын

So true

@andywu4177

4 ай бұрын

vamos

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

what is pickle ball i havent heard of it

@TennCom

4 ай бұрын

i just looked it up it seems like really good

@andywu4177

4 ай бұрын

@@TennCombanned