One day we will have batteries so efficient that just replacing where the fuel tank was will get you more than enough mileage. Nostalgia of the future! Good thing about your ocnversions, is that when that future comes, it will be as easy as replacing the outdated battery modules with the latest tecnology ones. A classic EV car is a car forever, never gets outdated, can always be improved.

@felixokeefe

Жыл бұрын

@@alanmay7929 Actually that's not necessarily true. As long as the nominal voltage of the new battery pack is close enough the existing charger/inverter/etc would still be ok. The real work of battery chemistry accommodation is done by the BMS (battery managment system) which is generally integrated into the pack. Using an older charger would likely limit your charging speed though.

Huge effort goes into these conversions. And lots of different skills needed.

👏👏👏 It's easy to understand the reason of these high price conversions, after seeing such a massive work!!! 😅😅😅

Thanks Richard, for being so thorough and clear with your explanation of what's happening with the conversion. All the best from Tennessee.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Gene 👍😀

Hi , great ideas and work going on , once years ago I saw the wiring boards for concord , and years later met an aircraft electrical chap trying to wire a house on a building site , with the same ideas , big joint boxes . Amazing ideas you have .🤔👍👍

Excellent video ! This is what I call "sensible recycling", instead of burying the Testarossa in some dark corner, it'll be again a fun car with much easier maintenance compared to the original.

Impressive and the way you guys address the conversations is really great.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

Fascinating! Thanks for the explanation, Richard. The owner of that car is going to be a happy person. 🙂👍

Really good episode, fascinating seeing the loom board, the more technical the better for me

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Plenty more tech to come 👍😀

Such a brilliant subject to convert. The older styling of the Ferraris but with electric tech.

W hen I used to work for Dormobile we used to use peg board and golf tee's on our wiring table which meant you just changed the tee's if you were making a different loom so you only needed one table.

@72mardy

Жыл бұрын

These guys build a loom board for each different car they convert and keep the board. That way they can make another one exactly the same later in when they want to. It's simple but brilliant. The peg board is a good idea too.

the wiring is fascinating!! thank you for going into such great detail

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Welcome 👍😀

Thanks for the Update, what a marvelous project

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

Greetings from the Netherlands 😊 enjoying this series

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

I love the fabricated parts for the battery boxes and other electrical components. Very nicely done, looks like NASA parts.😆

Absolutely Fascinating!!!

Absolutely incredible. Brilliant stuff. My mind blown 😳

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Wait until you see it drive 👍😀

Great stuff as usual. You guys really are wizards. Can't wait for the update on the Jenson. Love it. Keep it up.

The harness/component build board is great. For a Fiat 850 Spyder, we mapped out its harness on plywood, marked with tack nails, and made a new one - albeit a very simple project compared to yours. For my 16 year old self, it was fun. I can’t wait to see this car tear up the tarmac! Keep up the great work!

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

👍

Love your content. I have learned through you and others to the point that Sparks, our local guy was impressed by what I knew. My s10 pickup will soon be electric.

@427spicey

Жыл бұрын

Hi Donald, what part of the world are you in? I'm in Denver, CO US and think these conversions are brilliant.

You do such a beautiful work, a lot of thinking is in the cars to make the best out of it!

That was very good, to see how you can use all the available space efficiently and how much wiring is needed to run everything and Still make it look great when it is all done, no saturday arvo hack jobs here, all Quality Fab and Electrical work. I'm watching this build especially.

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. 😁👍

Keep up the stellar work! Improving Ferraris one careful step at a time! 👍

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

👍

Another great video and update. I absolutely love the size of the battery modules and boxes you have!

Been looking forward to seeing the next installment of the TeslaRossa build. Good move to split that front battery box. Not only do you gain room in the boot, you also use space - where the fuel tanks were - that would be difficult to use for anything else. You've lowered the CoG and improved the spread of weight as you say , too, which will benefit the handling.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

👍

A loom board. Genius. Now I know.

@starguy2718

Жыл бұрын

You ought to see the loom boards/ wiring harnesses that are used in aerospace!

thank you Richard. I really appreciate the walk through.

woot.. love your channel!

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

I see modules are still huge. I hope one day they will be slimmer and smaller and more dense, so you could fill more available shallow space inside the car with batteries if needed. Also I see the wiring is pretty complex. I hope your end users will get all the documentation like wiring diagrams etc. Assuming these cars can be later sold and shipped anywhere in the world, the support should be in place to help customers keep their converted classics on the road. Great job so far! I subscribed and will watch the progress on this Testarossa.

Very interesting and complicated the wiring. Great video 👌

Maaan such a clean setup! You guys do inspiring work 😁

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

@moestrei

Жыл бұрын

Inspired to convert Beat 😄

I'm super impressed as I wrongly assumed that all the control units, wiring etc were off the shelf jobbies taken from a Tesla for example which all plugged together. Enlightenment that it's all bespoke to each car and a lot more complex! Well done again guys and look forward to the next video!

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

👍

@xtremeincproductions

Жыл бұрын

Why would you want it to be a lot more complex?

Testarossa - Teslarossa...the name just kinda begs for it to be done, right?! Brilliant stuff!

Awesome detail in the videos and nice to see the improvements in design and why.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

Fantastic conversion. My bet is that it’ll be a better car all around too.

Great job. Looking forward to more telsarossa vids

Something like a Haltech Power Management Module Might make your Low Voltage controls much easy for you

Very interesting and informative. Congrats on your recent achievement.

First ;-) This is such a cool project.

It's amazing how organized you all are and how it all got figured out in the beginning! Great informative video and I hope to see more! How about videos updates for the Jag too?!

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

@georgedaville4662

Жыл бұрын

Real pleasure to hear you describe how all your guys work together under your leadership to produce such high quality bespoke parts for your conversions. You run a very tight ship Richard 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿😎

Fantastic stuff.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

What an ineresting episode this was. We forget how compicated wiring looms are, so the work the lads have done with the low-voltage box and connections is really impressive. I had a question about the battery boxes etc. They are all fabricated out of steel? Is there a reason for this - just for strength, protection etc? I was wondering about weight - you can buy off-the-shelf electrical junction boxes made of ABS, etc, that would be easier to machine and attach cable glands. Farnell, RS components etc...Keep up the great videos, we love it!

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

If the conversion is weight critical we make the boxes out of aluminium. The standard HV junction boxes available never are quite the right shape or have the gland blanks in the right place, it's more work to mod them than it is to fab up a new one that is the correct shape to fit in the available space. 👍

Impressive stuff indeed, it's all the little fiddly jobs that take so much time planning and creating. I almost called in to say hello today on my way past, but realised if all your followers did that you would get no work done 😁

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

You should have, always tea and biscuits on tap. 😁👍

@RanDomRikM

Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars Now there's an offer I can't refuse, I'll even bring a packet of chocolate Digestives, dark chocolate of course, with me 👍🏻

Impressive!

Nice one Richard. Still looking forward to T25 Syncro video. I see the ICE dinosaurs have arrived.😆

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

I drove it today. It's lovely. Update coming soon. 👍

@BombSponge

Жыл бұрын

Love these comments. Electric cars will be the dinosaurs when the already short supply of lithium and cobalt runs out and hydrogen power replaces unsustainable heavy battery technology. Battery powered cars are not new, been around for a hundred years or more. Thomas Edison and an electric car in 1913.

@alibro7512

Жыл бұрын

@@BombSponge Where does the hydrogen come from? Currently 99% of it comes from fossil fuels and causes 2% of global emissions so if you tried to power all cars from hydrogen the emissions would be off the scale. Not to mention the cost as hydrogen is currently heavily subsidised. Hydrogen is a lie put out by oil companies and one or two car companies who can't make a profit building EV's.

@BombSponge

Жыл бұрын

​@@alibro7512 You're not familiar with Electrolysis?

@francesconicoletti2547

Жыл бұрын

@@BombSponge high demand is not short supply.

awesome work! What is the estimated weight distribution now? Is there any scope for making the sensors wireless? You'd still have to power them but that's the way everything else is going so I imagine they will be in the future?

Decent size battery pack. Any idea of the approx range?

As I like to be thorough and even add to a case as items arise, we should not forget a Ferarri's ABYSMAL Fuel Consumption and it's incredible COST. When that Clown Clarkson & Co took one round the Track and drove it as it is MADE to be driven, it returned 7 MPG*. Even my 10 Ton RV returned a frugal EIGHT MPG, and it had a TOILET !! Over a year with depreciation* and speeding tickets* that equates with the cost of YOUR HOUSE. So a Spark Job Conversion is a Win X 9 ! (You will still get those pesky tickets.) .

I know the best ideas always come too late but: You could have used the midship ex-tank-space for a Rivian R1T gear (or luggage) tunnel). 😉

@fuckyougoogleupthearse5725

Жыл бұрын

Nah that works on the rivian cause the vehicle height is ok. On the teslarossa it would be below your knees. Plus the guys who can pay for the car and the conversion, it's a show piece cafe car. They ain't going on trips with luggage

@francesconicoletti2547

Жыл бұрын

It’s ending up with more luggage space then it had pre conversion. If some Q from MI5 got a hold of it though, it’s a perfect space for the smoke screen generators and caltrops holders to go for the James Bond upgrade.

Nice, clean design.

@ivoman7

4 ай бұрын

Why don't you have a number in your nickname?

Great explanation Richard. How is the race car coming along. Now end of October and only 8 months til pikes Peak. 25 June And the car needs to get there and that means needs to be in a container and on a boat by end May and customs cleared and at Pikes by Mid June.

Any plans for another ,Vintage Voltage ? Also any plans for a sleeper ,Austin Allegro ,to complement a certain sleeper Vtec Allegro?....🙄😏

What are the part numbers and brand for the high voltage battery box connectors? Thanks for the video

A great deal of the value in a Ferarri is in its engine and transmission. That gets put on the shelf in a project like this. For a bunch of money, I suppose it can be returned to the original. BUT, once one has driven your take--the TESLA-rossa, few may want to turn back the clock!

@a.bloke2.0alwayslearning.23

Жыл бұрын

That so-called "value" is also its biggest liabilities. Followed by the fact it looks like a door wedge. Truly, beauty IS in the eye, . . . . . .

Your little metal box looks like the ECU in my e-scooter. Massive connectors with wires going to every part

Nice battery boxes but how do you seal them and also how do you ensure they are safe? With only one or two boxes it is relatively simple using contactors and fuses but not so easy with four boxes.

Richard, are we going to see double the performance on this insane project?

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

We will have to wait and see. 👍😀

Epic! You have no idea how much I wish I could be a part of this. Do the boxes get painted or powder-coated?

@marcbee1234

Жыл бұрын

...also what are the battery boxes made of aluminum, steel or stainless?

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Steel gets blasted and powder coated. 👍😀

thank you

Looking good! Are you having a battery disconnect on each battery box?

Have you considered using one of the "new" (or at least recently more affordable for a mere mortal) PDMs to simplify the wiring harness? I'd guess the relays are less efficient than solid state switches which would be a disadvantage in an EV.

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Yep, we're testing several PDMs at the moment. 👍

I can't wait to see that Teslarossa screaming like a banshee!

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Shouldn’t be too long now. 👍😀

@xtremeincproductions

Жыл бұрын

screaming would imply a "sound". that won't apply here.

@nunofernandes4501

Жыл бұрын

@@xtremeincproductions screaming in the metaphorical sense.

Fantastic work. I am starting a Delorean conversion myself , and these videos are an invaluable help. On question I keep having though: ECC never talks/shows/explains the battery cooling side of the problem. I have seen fittings on the cooling plates of the CALB batteries, so I assume ECC is cooling the batteries?

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

We discuss battery cooling in this episode. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dqx50KSunty5mpc.html

@alexandervdr4764

Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars exactly what I was looking for! Tnx

Fab guys do nice work.... Do you bead blast and powder coat all the fabbed bits?

@ElectricClassicCars

10 ай бұрын

Yep 👍

Cool 🚗

Afternoon mate

What lfp battery packs are you using? They look pretty clean and simple to distribute across the car

Que sonho, só falta girar as rodas e sair voando que nem o Delorean 😅

Hi, interested in the Calb modules you're now using. I seem to remember you were using Tesla modules earlier. Are the Calb modules used in any mass produced cars or are they off-the-shelf? Also, are these LiFePO4 and, if so, what are the pros and cons? Thanks.

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

We only use Tesla modules in about 40% of our builds, the rest use CALB or LG Chem modules. 👍

Wow, this is an incredible build and series. Q: will the car have ABS & T/C with your conversion?

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

TC yes. ABS no. 👍

How much does the full complement of batteries cost? I'm interested in doing something similar with an Aston Martin

I was wondering if all those battery boxes and the fuse box also get an anti-corrosion treatment to really make their life last for the life that the car itself is now getting.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

They get blasted and powder coated 👍😀

have you looked into something like the Link razor pdm? or is that just adding more complexity to the wiring? or lets face it, fuses and relays are a lot cheaper

Where do you get those modules from? We reconvert Mercedes batteries to Nissan leaf to add more power and autonomy and I'm curious of more modules to experience with. Will be working with CATL modules soon too

@ElectricClassicCars

2 ай бұрын

We get them direct from the manufacturer in China. 👍

I may have missed it but what brake setup are you using? Remote vac pump or an all in one electric servo and abs unit?

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

We're using the standard brakes with an electric vacuum pump. 👍

A COMPLETELY overlooked fact is how EXPENSIVE, COMPLICATED and OFTEN a Ferarri Engine is to maintain. Add to this a Seriously bad Fuel Consumption, inconvenience in refilling, and having to mix with the Commoners at the Fuel Station. All in all, Swapping a Ferarri Engine for an Electric job is a Win-Win-Win-Win_Win-Win situation. .

What steel type are you using? HSLA? What grade?

What do you use for a BMS? An off the shelf system or a custom one?

@ivoman7

4 ай бұрын

❤👍

I love the new battery distribution but are there any concerns about the front battery position in the crumple zone in case of a crash? Has anyone considered a fire retarding system built into the chassis in the region of the battery boxes?

If I may add another question: energy density of batteries (weight). In one of the episodes 'petrol versus batteries) you explain that the energy density of the Tesla is up to 0,22 kWh/kg. I assume this is for the pack including the cooling provisions. How do the CALB batteries score on this ranking (including the cooling plates)?

Complicated stuff, you'll be building a NASA rover next! 🙂

@ElectricClassicCars

6 ай бұрын

I wish!

Anyone notice the Queensland Australia modification plate on the inner guard

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

I didn't, I'll have to take a closer look at that. 😁👍

How to get things done right :p I have a question, however: with BYD and CATL going Blade and Qilin respectively, not to mention Tesla (which basically means structural batteries), aren't you afraid that battery manufacturers will at some point stop selling battery modules as they currently do? Or do you already have a plan for this?

what brand battery packs are you using? cheers from texas!

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

CATL in this build.

If some at Tesla had vision they would promote after maket use of there electric motors.

💪😎💪

Are the silver boxes stainless? Just thinking about rust etc…

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Steel but they will be blasted and powder coated. 👍😀

@xtremeincproductions

Жыл бұрын

stainless would add too much weight

Are you going to put red paint on the electric motor? Because the Testarossa was named for its red cylinder heads ("red head", in Italian).

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Good point. 👍😀

@0:45 Get with the times: _FRUNK IT!_

Great video!! Where dose the spare tire go?

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

There's no spare, like most modern cars haven't had spares in 30 years.

@joshuared1000

Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars thank you for the explanation:) love the channel

The jag in the background is almost a distraction

@starguy2718

Жыл бұрын

You mean the 2 + 2 E-Type? Nah, didn't give it a second thought! 😄😄😄🍌

What are the fabricated boxes made from? I would have hoped they are made from Stainless Steel but they already look like they are rusting .😮

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Steel. They get blasted and powder coated when they are ready. 👍

do a electric conversion of a 69 camaro (my dream car)

yo, dude has hv connecters in his pocket. he is 100% legit.

I am wondering about the fact that you start replicating the orginal box already. Is the original one tested yet?

I’d love an electric 300zx

Do you have cooling systems for batteries?

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/dqx50KSunty5mpc.html

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Watch this episode where we discuss EV cooling. 👍 kzread.info/dash/bejne/dqx50KSunty5mpc.html

@pagegreer5081

Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars I knew tesla talked about radiators. I thought it be part of your tech explanation off how itwas accomplished on the testla. And very interesting

Do those battery boxes get painted?

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Blasted and powder coated 👍😀

@beinghappy1312

Жыл бұрын

@@spudproductions7606 Niiiice

@MrAdopado

Жыл бұрын

If you watched the video you should already know the answer to your question 😉

🙂👍

0:44 The word you're looking for is Froot.