X thread with some observations: x.com/brandenflasch/status/1720531812693209471?s=46&t=qT5Mqn6Y80K93tBN1ZDU0Q

@billybobbob3003

9 ай бұрын

ELECTRIC JESUS HAS ARRIVED LOOK IT'S ANOTHER WOKE VIRTUE SIGNALING TWAT IN HIS THERMAL RUNAWAY SHITBOX.

Thanks to Branden for having the technical knowledge and taking the time to disseminate information like this. The EV community will benefit from these videos now and in the future.

I've gone to the v4 site in Alabama. the posts are on the back left side of the parking space. TLDR: the handles are long and chonky. Make sure you have at least a good 12 inches between the post and your car or you won't have enough room to plug it in.

Love your site tours. Keep them coming! I'm near the ATL V3.5 site but have not been up there yet. Once they open it to non-Tesla, I'll try it out with my Mach-E. I was wondering if all of the V4 posts had Magic Dock so it was nice that you pointed out that these do.

Cool to see them rolling out even if they’re only baby-stepping them so far. Thanks for the tour!

Great content,Brandon. I would wager that the Tesla supercharger division is (or moving quickly) set up to service all customers-internal and external. Like LG makes just about every OLED TV screen but they sell those raw screens to anybody & don't give the part of LG that makes whole TV's a discount. I think this is the best approach for neutral EV charging infrastructure growth.

Quick update, per Tesla the Magic Dock has been enabled at this site and it is now open to CCS vehicles as well.

Very interesting. Thanks. Really looking forward to NACS becoming prevalent. It is sorely needed and will be much welcomed!!

Contrasting this site to the V3.5 Kyle reviewed in Europe, it looks like the posts are centered in the SC stalls but the European site had the cables centered in the stalls. I'm looking forward to V4 dispensers to use on my CCS vehicle. I'd be really curious as to what point Tesla switches exclusively to V4 dispensers and what goes into the decision right now on using old V3s or new V4s.

The reason they have magic docks even though most manufacters are switching to NACS is the same reason they also have a payment system on the post. The feds require an EV charging station to be compatible with CCS EVs and have an electronic payment system to be eligible for infrastructure funds. Tesla is just complying so they can get the money.

There is a similar install running in Wilsonville OR so 5? Last time there the screens were off. I agree the handle and cable setup is clunky.

I live in Columbia. Stopped there Jan 25th to get boost and back on the road. Maxed out at 25 kw!! and that little screen never came on. It was awful!!

I wonder if the actual first 1000-volt capable V4 Supercharger in the US will be in Mesa, Arizona. At the TMC Forums, they found documents stating there would be a charging cabinet upgrade. Hopefully that's the case as it would be only a 6 hour drive for me to test that in my EV6. What do you think Tesla will do with these V4 sites that have V3 cabinets to get 1000 V output? Will it require a hardware configuration change or could they do it simply with firmware? The V3 cabinets can already output 1000 V between each other.

We did it!

Has anyone tried to charge using the MagicDock at this station? It may be a soft rollout that still works, just not advertised as such. Given the MagicDock and payment terminal, what's left for them to achieve NEVI compliance?

The key is reliability and faster deployments to accommodate the non-Tesla EVs. Honestly, most EVs won’t be pulling the max power anyway. Good to see these coming online. I also saw Tesla yanked out the V2 superchargers in Springfield, VA and hope these will be installed.

To be clear I think what you’re saying is that these are Nevi compliant and are being installed where there is nevi funding or other local funding to install chargers that have payment terminals and are CCS compatible but Tesla has no actual incentive to enable them on.

@brandenflasch

9 ай бұрын

These are not NEVI compliant

@barryw9473

9 ай бұрын

@@brandenflaschinteresting. Is Magic Dock NEVi compliant? Why is this site not compliant? Thank you.

@Jeddin

9 ай бұрын

@@brandenflasch what’s missing that isn’t compliant? So what charging post will Tesla install to meet the Nevi funding that they have won so far? I believe Tesla has won 18% of all Nevi bids thus far. Close to the 20% limit for any one operator

When will true V4 happen in USA?

Contacting you from iXR Mobility a EV Ridesharing Company located in Detroit MI.. We are looking at that Version 4 model, Do you have a consulting offering for a project as this

Hello Brandon! I'm from Ukraine and recently bought a Tesla Y with a 4860 battery. I would like to ask what degradation of the battery you have now, how many miles does a full charge last? Also, has the car's software been updated? I think I read that Tesla has programmatically limited the battery power and with new updates the range should increase. Thanks in advance for your answer!

You may have answered this on X, but I don’t go there anymore. With the cyber truck coming out with the high voltage architecture at some point, they’re gonna have to put in high voltage chargers, e.g. they’re gonna have to change the backend of the V4 dispensers. Is there anything beyond speculation as to when that might occur?

@brandenflasch

9 ай бұрын

Nothing beyond speculation

With the longer cables, I’m wondering about pulling in hood first. Would the cable reach the charge port?

@brandenflasch

8 ай бұрын

No

Have you experienced any battery degradation yet on your 4680? I have the same car as you and i am down to 276 miles on full charge

@brandenflasch

8 ай бұрын

None so far

Buds make it simple tell us how much time 20% to 90 on level 4 vs 3 supercharger

@brandenflasch

5 ай бұрын

There is no difference

The longer cables will be helpful for CCS cars, as you mentioned. However many CCS cars will still be in the wrong parking spot if their charging port is on the left side of the vehicle. Wish Tesla would announce the date to open their SuC network to CCS cars. We visit places where there is either no CCS chargers or the CCS chargers are so poor that using the Tesla Network would be very advantageous. Thanks for the V4 update.

@Gaaaaav

9 ай бұрын

I have a CUPRA Born with the charging port on the opposite side and I can guarantee that I no longer take up 2 spots at V4 sites here in the UK where I can drive straight in and plug in without having to take up 2 stalls.

@jayhoughton558

9 ай бұрын

No they won’t. It should be able to reach just about any charge port location with the longer cable in the proper spot. If it is on the front left of your car then you would just pull straight in front first. If it’s on the right side of your car then you would likely back in. It might even reach the Tesla standard location (maybe not sure) if you pulled straight in but the cable would be along the door which would be annoying.

@BillB33525

9 ай бұрын

@@jayhoughton558 Good to hear.

@BillB33525

9 ай бұрын

@@Gaaaaav Good to hear.

Hello! I heard that 4680 elements are absolutely impossible to repair. Also, in Austin they stopped making die-cast bodies and are putting 2170 batteries back in. What do you do when the battery runs out or breaks?

@brandenflasch

7 ай бұрын

You swap the battery…

@user-lz6jn6lj6x

7 ай бұрын

@@brandenflasch but as far as I know, the Austin plant has stopped producing 4680 batteries for model y

@brandenflasch

7 ай бұрын

@@user-lz6jn6lj6x ok?

@user-lz6jn6lj6x

7 ай бұрын

I don’t quite understand, do you want to send me something?

Do you think your cable critiques were a bit harsh? These cables are liquid cooled and should help with thermal throttling. You do remember your wet towel days? 😂 Also, on your complaint on removing the cable from the holster and moving it around… you were holding a camera in one of your hands. I think we’ll get used to pulling the cable down as more of these stalls are in use.

@DblOSmith

9 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. It's fine.

@brandenflasch

9 ай бұрын

Shouldn’t need 2 hands.

@jayhoughton558

9 ай бұрын

Except he was comparing the experience for a Tesla driver using a V2, which he also often uses with a camera in hand. No doubt the comparison is likely valid. It’s still probably a far better experience than using a typical CCS dcfc cable and connector though.

@RealKeith_

9 ай бұрын

@@jayhoughton558Except he’s been using a v2/v3 charger style since the late 2010’s. A bit unfair to judge its usability quite yet. I remember fumbling with the nubbin’ latch on those at first too.

@sneakybutpirate

9 ай бұрын

No his criticism is completely valid, if you don’t criticize Teslas decisions they will stay shitty

Your car maxes at 230? I've seen 260 in my 2018 Model 3

@brandenflasch

9 ай бұрын

Yes

What address is this in Columbia? I will be traveling through there over Thanksgiving and would like to stop at that one. Thanks.

@jrcase7511

9 ай бұрын

Never mind. I asked too soon. I see it in the video now. 😂

@kennethjoseph4227

8 ай бұрын

What's the address? Heading that direction now

So nice that they also thought of handicapped persons which need a little more space sometimes for opening and operating around (: Also the nose pull in when something is in the back (:

For those who believe in Tesla's mission, they are much more than a nothing-burger as it appears they will be the chargers that allow the Tesla charging network to be opened up to other manufacturers. Because Tesla charging stations are good, while other networks kind of suck. By centering the stalls and providing longer cords, the charge port location is no longer an issue. By hopefully including a CCS adapter, that could be a huge benefit for anyone with a CCS port, at least until most vehicles fully switch over to NACS. And including a payment system will also be very nice if non Teslas can't authenticate in the same manner as Teslas. I hope to see Tesla step up Supercharger site construction with V4 stations, ideally partially funded by other manufacturers that will be utilizing their network.

Did I see you with the electric Rolls Royce?

@brandenflasch

9 ай бұрын

Yes

@mitchellbarnow1709

9 ай бұрын

@@brandenflaschI was just watching you in that video, you were dressed very well for the experience and for the fast refresh rate.

Is Tesla working on making faster charges???? If V4s dont charge faster, what's the point? Who wants to sit for 40min in a car full of kids on a road trip.

@tboneforreal

5 ай бұрын

Likely the reason they are upgrading the posts first is because they can get the infrastructure money from the feds because the posts are compatible with CCS. They can always upgrade the electrical cabinets later to actually provide full V4 charging capability, which is faster.

you lost some weight? Looking good bud

@brandenflasch

7 ай бұрын

Thank you