I bought the base X in red for 2 reasons mainly…..$7500 tax break and I was able to transfer FREE SUPERCHARGING from my 2016 P100D to the new Model X. That was a game changer for me. I have a Performance Model 3 already and the Model Y is just too similar, hence the X was the way to go for me.

The best part, Dave is legally getting three tax credits this year, each $7,500. Total $22,500.

@Harrythehun

8 ай бұрын

No limits?

@RT-zg9qi

8 ай бұрын

@@Harrythehun looks like there are no limits other than 1 Credit per car.

@willhartsell7667

8 ай бұрын

Do you think he's eligible for the $7500?

@ArnoldWinters

8 ай бұрын

@@willhartsell7667 yes there is limit on the credit. You cannot buy EVs to resell just for the tax credit.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

@@willhartsell7667 Considering how many cars he can afford to go through, he probably makes too much money to qualify for the tax credit.

I have 2023 MX and husband has 2022 MY. Great comparison. I am loving mine as a beast of a roadtripper. You are exactly right - the extra range and the charging curve is now making road trips in the X as fast as driving ICE. Especially with 250kw stations everywhere. 😊

@discreetbtmxxx2639

Ай бұрын

How do you compare the ride for X vs the ride for Y?

Thanks for your detail explanation

Thanks for doing the comparison. That is exactly what I have been thinking about with the Model Y and the Model X.

Really makes the S/X a much better value and much closer to how much I felt they were worth. I know people were buying them and the market sets the price, but for me they were overpriced for what you got. It was just silly from a financial perspective even considering one when they were double and half a Y for how little you got over the Y. At this price they're very much compelling if you got the cash and are in the market.

Dave - when I see you take that beautiful drive (last part of the video), you really make me want to buy a Model X. Great video. Thanks for sharing with us.

I like the Model X, but wish Tesla would offer a version without the gullwing doors so I can install a roof rack! For now I am waiting for the refreshed Model Y (Project Juniper) and hopefully a rumored plaid version🙂 Great video though Dave!

@OutofSpecStudios

8 ай бұрын

The Falcon Wing doors are what makes an X an X.

I agree 100% on your comparison of the X to Y. I love my X. Best car I've ever had. Hope you love your's as well.

Loved this vid like all of them lol. Missed Kathy lol. The only thing you could do to improve the videos is have the volume a little louder bc the ads KZread run are quite a bit louder. Other than that, perfection. I watched and listened to the whole hour while I worked today 😊

Thank you Dave this will be an interesting comparison 👍👍👍

Great job Dave as always

Great video with a well focused topic. One add on your point with a 7 seater Model X is unless you are trading in, that 7 seater option could cost you $11,000 if you lose that tax credit.

Also agree about lack of interior noise - my 2020 MX was creaky - the 2023 rides smoother and much quieter - inside and outside noise is significantly improved

What a great comparison video Dave! I look forward to meeting you on Saturday. Sounds like its going to be a great event. Hopefully the Brewery is ready for an EV takeover lol 😆 😅

As always, great work on this. I think you need a Rev 2 on your Out of Spec portrait drawing, not sure who that is, but it ain't you 😀

As usual Dave, very enjoyable and informative. I’d love to see a comparison to the model “S” which is the model I’m considering. Thanks. 👍

@tmorcos21

8 ай бұрын

I got the 2023 model s long range on 9/8/23 in the ultra red color and I love it. Sold my late 2021 MYP.

Nicely done as usual. I love my 2023 model s long range in the ultra red color. I sold my 2021 MYP to buy this and the built quality has improved nicely. Enjoy your X when you get it.

Fantastic real world review 👍

Amazing review

Just picked up my X from Mount Kisco a few days ago!

Maybe do a video on min / max charging your car depending on if you are using your car locally every day, leaving your car parked for a week or two to minimise battery degradation.

BTW(OT) - for the Model Y pictured ...the center console tray actually slides forward to become a hide-a-way tray while keeping full access to the deep full center console ( I tend to keep a full band hidden and at the ready....hey you never know these days,,,,)

Dave, do you and Kyle recommend getting a lightly used model X at all? I was thinking of the newer ones from 2022 to present. What are your thoughts and Kyle’s on that?

Very good review comparing the Y, which I have driven. The 2024 X I just bought does have the horn in the middle of the steering wheel THANK YOU TESLA!

Another Great Video, Thanks Dave! I recently acquired a 23 MYLR - charging cost $38 (292kWh) for first month - (which was equal to about 4.6 tanks of my previous ICE Vehicle) saving $111/mo in gas! Wife loves the Y as do I!

@AmyAmy-ev3yu

8 ай бұрын

How is 4.6 tanks of gas equal to $38 in electric?? Gas is running $4-5.00 a gallon. about 7 gallons of gas is 4.6 tanks??

@Dr_Flankensteinn

8 ай бұрын

Full "Tank" on MYLR (75kw) - 75kw x $0.14 = $10.50 full charge cost at home - 292kwh / 75kw (Full Charge "Tank") = 3.893 "Fill ups" - if I was to fill up my previous ICE Vehicle cost $45 (less range about 200 miles per tank) - $45 x 4 fill ups = $180 - so in reality it was $142 savings a month in GAS - hope this helps@@AmyAmy-ev3yu​If you charge at a supercharger or CCS prices range from $0.25-$0.48kw - still cheaper than gas but best to charge at home whenever possible!

@vikasd.7139

7 ай бұрын

​@@AmyAmy-ev3yuI guess he means he was using 4.6 tanks, $38+111=$149. Assuming electricity is cheap, Probably driving around 1k miles per month. On a Prius/Rav4 Hybrid, it will be more like $80 to 100 range. Extra tire/insurance/registration costs etc can quickly eat into those savings

Dave, How does the X front legroom compare to the GV60. I’m 6’6 and thought the front driver legroom was much better than the Y in the Genesis. however I didn’t consider the X cause the price was so high. I bought the gv60 for me but my wife will need a family hauler. Great channel and love your sons channel as well.

Looking forward to this review can’t wait for you to get the Red model X

Great review. And just to confirm both the model Y and Model X are 2023 right ?

On this press Model X, The right rear wheel on the Model X has what appears to be curb rash. Also, the falcon wing doors do not open if you are parked in a tight spot. Finally, Dave you will hate the turn signals on the steering wheel and the horn will be hard to find in an emergency.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

What's a "press Model X"? The falcon wing doors do open in tight spots, they have sensors and can adjust their angle. And while yes the horn is in a stupid location it can be used easily in an emergency by putting your whole hand over that button, not just your finger.

@ArnoldWinters

8 ай бұрын

@@Resist4 a “press” vehicle is a dealer’s model

26:13 I am laughing, Sir!

Hi Dave.. since you've owned a Model X before, what is your recommendation on which/what year to purchase if thinking used? We're looking at a new Model Y vs a used Model X - Thanks.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

Personally I would never buy a used EV, because you really don't know how the previous owner charged the car. Poor charging habits could have rapidly declined the battery health.

thanks OSD! I currently own a spicy Model Y and am considering the model X in the Ultra Red! I think you did a great job of explaining the differences between the 2 cars. I am looking for a car that offers more luxury and at $79k, the X has hit my radar. I wonder how long Elon will be able to keep the price below the $80k. thanks again for the review

While I do like the luxurious features of the X compared to the Y there seems to be more aftermarket item support for the Y such as air suspension, powered sunshade, driver led display with carplay and android auto, rear passenger display etc. Would love to see this comparison in the future when Tesla releases the Project Juniper refreshed Model Y. Oh and one more important thing is I can add a roof rack to the Y unlike the X.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

Just remember that every aftermarket item you put on the Y to make it more like the X, if it causes an issue with the cars systems, then Tesla won't cover the repair of the Tesla system. Plus, you could end up spending more money to get those items installed, not to mention the time it takes a shop to install them.

@Mark1Mach2

7 ай бұрын

Yes, this. Those who are interested should hey the Y and upgrade it for so much cheaper. Much better value this way.

21" wheels are not only more subject to damage but also degrade ride quality. 19" is the sweet spot when it comes to wheels. Shame manufacturers think bigger is better.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

18" wheels are the real sweet spot. More sidewall beef, more wheel protection and more range. I can't stand that Tesla insists on bigger wheels with rubber band sidewalls, and rubber that doesn't still out farther than the rims to protect against curb rash.

The location of the interior rear view mirror looks like it blocks foward vision of things in your lane

New game- take a shot every time Dave mentions he’s a big guy 😂❤

I don't keep cars long enough, yea we noticed that lol.. good vid though. was wondering about the Y compared to the X and S, or would another EV be better. Question on the tax credit If you get a Tesla with the tax credit and then trade it in for another tesla x months later in the same calendar year with another that qualify for the tax credit, can you claim both tax credits? or are you only able to claim it once for just one of them?

Dave, would you happen to know what the range of the tires for the 20" wheels are? I know the 22" wheels are under 10K miles. Thank you.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

Are you talking about range or tire life?

@anthonydau616

8 ай бұрын

Tire life@@Resist4

Just a quick note. I went through CHEAPR for Connecticut and actually your car can be over that 50k to receive the state incentives, it’s just the base price of the vehicle has to be lower than 50k.

That bench slides back for more leg room. At least it does in 7 seater.

I have an X90D and 23 YP. The Y drives like a sports car. It's very fast. Suspension firm but comfortable. X is bigger, another ride with air suspension and ventilated seats. X use good for business that can use section 179 deduction. Y feels right sized if you're driving by yourself most the time. For premium features, X for sure.

I passed on a Y, and got a a Subaru Outback Onyx factory order with an all metal roof. Around town car is a Nissan Leaf also with a metal roof. Tesla, just copy the outback with your batteries and motor and don’t forget better ground clearance.

I would try to get a 2020 X that was delivered in December 2019 to its original owner. Because then I would get the unlimited miles eight-year battery and powertrain warranty. But my question is in my garage. I have the garage door screen that goes down which hangs below my garage door, and I’m wondering if I would be able to even open the falcon wing doors in the garage at the lower ceiling height?q

Amen on the 5 seater X oh and congrats on the X 🎉

I wish someone would explain the need for such speed for any Ev.

@Harrythehun

8 ай бұрын

Not sure but for many people it’s not the most important but it’s great to have it is if you can get it. And for some people (me) it’s a once in a lifetime opportunity, to buy a fast car. (I owned a Tesla M3 LR which is fast enough according to me. When I later switched to the MY I could/would settle with the MY Rwd LFP knowing I already have had a pretty fast car before.

Quick Question - where does the "out of spec" name come from for the OOS network?

@Harrythehun

8 ай бұрын

Not from Tesla or Fremont. Everything is always within specs….#_If_you_known_you_know

@ArnoldWinters

8 ай бұрын

When you had panel gaps and showed it to Tesla, they would say “it’s within spec” as a way to dismiss your criticism.

@davidmenasco5743

8 ай бұрын

If my recollection is correct, it all began with Kyle and some other young motoring enthusiasts showing off how their cars (mostly gas powered) could drive fast around tracks -- including some driving and/or modifications that were outside the range specified by the manufacturers. Then Kyle and his friends discovered that stock EVs could do some things that very few ICE cars can do even with mods, and the channel gradually became EV focused. Then EV sales and EV interest blew up worldwide, and so did OOS. Kyle's enthusiasm, and his nerdy knack for numbers filled a niche very nicely.

X's don't support roof racks.Means a hitch mount/trailer.Handy if you don't mind the range loss.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

Roof racks can cause range loss too, depending on what you put up there.

Someone make an awesome intro for Dave :)

I have a 2022 MYP and debating selling and getting an X. With the Model Y price drops the resale value has tanked.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

Cars are not investments. Rarely does anyone make out when selling or trading in a used vehicle. Just get what you want, life is short. But obviously don't over extend yourself financially.

The Model X is an amazing-looking vehicle and the Falcon Wing doors, are the icing on the cake. I would prefer the 3 over the Y, but they are all great cars. Hope you have your X soon. Great video, keep it up.

With your estimated delivery dates in late November to early December, do you mind sharing when you placed your order?

@dconner9

8 ай бұрын

Sept 14

@LanceT.

8 ай бұрын

@@dconner9 Okay, thanks. You placed yours a few days before me with estimated delivery dates about a week ahead of me. It will be interesting to see how their deliveries match their estimates. I've got the same configuration as you. I suspect we'll see a lot of Ultra Red 5-seaters delivered in the next 2 months.

I wonder how tall Dave is?

The same 30.000 difference is between x3 and x5, and the x5 is smaller than model x while x3 is similar in size to model y

Also,the interior dimensions for storage of skis or whatever are minimal.Rather have a Y dual motor.Towing Package With Roof Racks.Range Loss Is Minimal,Even with Roof and Trailer.Real time tested.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

Actually, range loss is not minimal when towing a trailer, but really depends on the weight of what you are towing.

I love the windshield and glass roof.

I traded my Model 3 for Model X. Keeping it my Model Y too.

@ArnoldWinters

8 ай бұрын

Tesla only gives you a trade in value of $30K for a 2023 M3 at trade in.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

@@ArnoldWinters Okay? Who cares, just sell the car to a private party. No one ever makes out trading in a vehicle and everyone knows that.

Over here a new X (non plaid) is about 2x the cost of a new Y Long Range. Its a no brainer. Get the Y.

Did this Model X have cream interior or was it white?

@outofspecdave1554

8 ай бұрын

Cream

How much more does it cost to insure a model X vs a model Y?

@msbgone

8 ай бұрын

I just got quotes and the X was only a 250 more a year, the S though was over 400 more, but not bad overall....

@timothyfarrell602

8 ай бұрын

Agreed that's not bad. I was expecting much more. Thanks@@msbgone

@Mike-jq9jo

8 ай бұрын

It is going to be state dependent. Some places there will not be much difference, other places will cost you an arm and a leg, not to mention your first born. You really cannot generalize here.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

@@Mike-jq9jo It's also City dependent, larger populated areas mean more cars on the road which mean more chances of accidents. Plus, a more expensive car will have higher insurance premiums because the repairs and parts are more expensive.

How concerned are you with the negative camber on the rear wheels and the possibility of going through tires quickly?

@scottbreseke716

8 ай бұрын

Most reviewers on KZread don't mention an issue with negative camber.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

And every Tesla goes through tires quickly.

I tried the back seat of the model X those will be some small adults lol I could not fit and neither can my son in that third row . 😂

Always enjoy your videos. The Model X always has intrigued me and has potential to be a great family car… Except for the Musk touches here and there: 1). The dash has an awkward layout, losing the Danish ambience of the Models Y and 3. I don’t like asymmetrical displays that add to the distractions a driver faces while driving. With the Yoke steering wheel and the horn placement and omission of the most basic controls … could grandmother or a visiting cousin borrow the car and drive it? 2). Then there are the gull wing doors in the rear - why add a source of very expensive hardware that certainly will fail in 5 to 10 years… I have lived in very rainy climates where a slight breeze will drench through the gaping openings a poor mother loading a baby in a child seat… and 3). that glass, all that Jetson mobile glass so vulnerable to rock chips. As a party pooper I would like to remind you out there that a car, no matter what the spaceship technology, is a tool to get us from point A to point B. When advanced technology prone to failures and excessive nannying by a computer gets in the way of a pure driving experience the driving tool becomes dated and irrelevant soon.

I am so very disappointed that they canceled the model X in Australia.

@tim66612343

8 ай бұрын

They cancelled the right had drive model for everywhere I believe.

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

8 ай бұрын

There is only one reason - nobody wanted to buy it. It is not a 100k+ car. It is maybe a 70k? car. Its not selling.

@philhartley7551

8 ай бұрын

The Model X would have been a consideration for me if it had been available in RHD (in the UK).

I hear the X is louder inside from road noise.

One critical point is you are getting the same interior noise experience while paying $30K more. To me this is unacceptable

@elainebradley8213

8 ай бұрын

We were driving in our Sierra and saying that our year old model 3 is so much quieter.

@Coffee_Cars_and_Adventures

8 ай бұрын

2021+ Model X and S have active noise cancelation technology the Y doesn't have. Road in my daughter's new X a few weeks ago and it was quieter than my MYP.

@Moching-ob6ny

8 ай бұрын

My experience was based on actual driving experience. The Model X was not quieter than the Model 3 during the drive..... On same roadways

@Coffee_Cars_and_Adventures

8 ай бұрын

@Moching-ob6ny you have to turn noise cancellation on in the audio settings. Did you do that?

@Moching-ob6ny

8 ай бұрын

I didn’t know about this. Wasn’t sure if it was on or off

If you get the Model X, get the plaid. 10k for an upgrade that nets you one of the fastest cars on the planet? No brainer.

The non-automatic fronk is a major fail on this class of vehicle. And one more thing, eliminate the falcon doors and lower the price by $10K. I would buy it then. Come on Elon, fix this ASAP.

Why does Tesla insist on putting those heavy 21" wheels on the Model Y Performance?! You may not need the faster Model X, but then again you really don't need a to buy a Tesla. It's not about what we need, it's about what we want. :) You'd think by now that the Model S and X would have an auto Frunk, considering how expensive they are. So the new Model X's still have the red/orange UV roof glass? And thought Tesla put the horn back in the center airbag now? And if only Tesla would come up with a small spare tire for all their cars, as an option. Which would be great for road trips in areas with spotty cell coverage.

Hard to believe someone who can afford an $80-$90K vehicle can qualify for a federal tax credit with an income limit of $300K for couples and $150K for single tax filers. Although if you own your own business and/or have a lot of deductions, maybe...

@techunboxing8933

8 ай бұрын

My Dad can but I cant😢😢😢

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

He buys new expensive vehicles all the time, no way he qualifies for the tax credit.

@eco_barbie007

17 күн бұрын

Why is it hard to believe?

I have the 2021 performance Y and because of the price slash plus tax credit, the model X long range is actually cheaper. So I ordered one. I don’t think it will ever be lower than it is now.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

Not sure how you are figuring that the Model X Long Range is cheaper than the Model Y Performance, because that's not true.

@chupscola9198

8 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@Resist4if you buy the model x (base) today and if you include the tax credit, it will be cheaper than when I bought my performance Y with FSD 2 years ago.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

@@chupscola9198 comparing a price from today to something 2 years ago is idiotic. It doesn't make it cheaper than another model today.

@chupscola9198

8 ай бұрын

I’m just saying, that is my own experience. That’s why I mentioned the year 2021 in my original post. I was never told that telling experiences is idiotic. Sorry my bad. Anyway, ordered my new X coz I felt it was cheaper and bigger than the car I bought 2 years ago.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

@@chupscola9198 "coz"? lol

Really love your videos Dave. I just don't have an hour to watch this one. Keep your videos to around 10 minutes and you will do much better here on YT.

How about a SWFL meet-up? I'm near you in (Marco) I'm in Estero.. Exit 123… I'm going to send you an email.

Is anyone considering the effect on current owners and the resale value of their vehicles? A lot of people who buy cars to keep them for the longer term, 3-5 years, must be suffering financially. The financial games that Tesla play seems to screw current owners.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

People need to stop worrying about resale value. I've never bought a car to sell it, I bought it at a price I was willing to pay and just enjoy it. Cars are not investments!

Get a preowned low mileage 2022 and saved a ton of money. Thats what I did I got a model S long range with 21”s and previous owner got the 12k beta full auto pilot which I thought was crazy. Only had 5k miles. Also you wanna be careful and look in the door for the manufacture date my best friend has someone that can look up your vin # because of quality issues.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

And not know how the previous owners charging habits, could have set your battery up for early failure.

Going from a model Y to an X is like going from a Chevy to a Cadillac in terms of interior quality. The seats in the Y are just garbage and no ventilated seats, no 2nd or third screen, no swivel screen in the Y either. Tesla needs a version of the X without the fancy back doors and have a true base model X and that would probably knock $10,000 or so off the X.

Gosh, I keep watching this video and I keep thinking the whole vehicle was designed by a 12 year old. There is SO much wrong with it, safety and convenience wise. But, having said that, there is a lot that is perfect with it. Hey Tesla, I’m work in aerospace and I am available for consult on how you FIX your vehicles.

My wife can't tell the difference (outside) between the two. I told her to get the cheaper one!!!

@LetsGoBrandonOne

8 ай бұрын

You got that right. Even from the sides and rear, its hard to tell the difference. The door handles are the BIG tell.

@AmyAmy-ev3yu

8 ай бұрын

I honestly have a hard time telling the difference between the X and Y. Some people think they are one and the same, just different colors.

kkeeee

Medium Size Jellybean Big Size Jellybean

No better time than now to get an X

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

If you can afford the higher tax, DMV fee and insurance rate, then yes. Not everyone can.

@JGCbike

8 ай бұрын

Back in 2016 I looked at the X and the insurance was 5 times that of a Lincoln MKX. Bought the MKX because of that. Wonder if the insurance rage is still that dramatic, anyone know???@@Resist4

Pity the X does not feel like a $80k vehicle to me. The falcon wing doors and minivan (dated) looks are a turn off for me. Dave, this is what you get if you must have Tesla supercharging!

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

Looks nothing like a minivan to me.

Both too long in the tooth. Especially that X.

there is nothing 'SUV' about these :)

Your videos are interesting but often too long. At 30 minutes you gave a summary and then you talk for 20 more minutes

@akhillz

8 ай бұрын

to offer another perspective of feedback: i enjoy the long format videos

@MrDgt66

8 ай бұрын

I often watch them at 1.25x or 1.5x speed, so they are not that long anymore. :)

@frank6708

8 ай бұрын

​@@dconner9I find the reviews nice and relaxing to watch. Some things are sometimes repeated, but that is not a problem. The x is a bit big for the Netherlands. I have the 2023 m3 rdw and I really like it.

@littlemoneymark

8 ай бұрын

I enjoy listening to longer videos while at work.

I couldn’t care less about the windshield and its view. This is where Tesla fails on all of its vehicles. I want a metal roof, NO panoramic roof because the heat emanating from it sucks! Btw, I have a 2023 Model Y for reference. I would “cross-shop” the Model X if it was coming in at around $65k with the improvements I mentioned, rather than where it is right now.

@Resist4

8 ай бұрын

I kind of agree, I'd rather have a metal roof, only because the glass roof does get chipped which happened to my Model 3.

I still wouldn't buy both