Sandy: "Let's start with the inside". Ben: "We designed it from the outside", then proceeds to re-direct Sandy to the posters and outside features first.

@adamgreen911

Жыл бұрын

yep. : ) that's the youtube world … no such thing as a producer or production assistant with a worksheet of talking points and a script for getting through the material with the presenters working together … we're in a post-professional world of video publications these days. Some in the audience will vibe to the "authenticity" of the misdirections and tangents, others will be left wanting for a concise and focused video essay.

@therJrep

Жыл бұрын

@@adamgreen911 i love it raw

Bravo! Winnebago should fire everybody ASAP (for their ridiculous eRV2) and hire these guys, or buy the company, and let these guys run Winnebago! Every stupid particle board-kitchen-cabinet-handyman and off-the-shelf-module kludge in the Winnebago has been "done right" with this clean-sheet design! Very Nice , Lightship!

@MatthewLiegey

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but this is a 100k estimated starting price.

@shazam6274

Жыл бұрын

@@MatthewLiegey compared to the $135k Winnebago?

Sandy is that one teacher who always reviews your project.

Sandy man Sandy man does what ever Sandy can.

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

🎶🎵

I must say the fact they made it somewhat self propelling is great, a wonderful way to extend towing range with an EV towing it.

My grandparents had a Hi-Lo trailer in the 60s. When they came to visit, I got to turn the key to make it raise up.

Sandy getting underneath - that's engineering excitement!

Thank you Sandy for presenting this to the public.

That's one dope ass RV.

it was about time somebody made this

LightShip Simply Nailed This e-Ship. L2 Would Be Be Awesome - Sandy Approved 🤠.

I think, adding glass that can change opacity to the windows is a must have option.

@ZoeyR86

Жыл бұрын

You can get window film for that. It has contacts on 1 edge. You get clear to black and clear to a frosted white

@mriguy3202

Жыл бұрын

Nobody in the world will buy this if they don't have that option or some sort of window coverings. The RV buyer/exhibitionist segment is very small. Also, not shown was how to they build the door so that they have a window screen to keep bugs out?

@patreekotime4578

Жыл бұрын

That was exactly my first thought. No places to mount curtains and no LCD shades?

@patreekotime4578

Жыл бұрын

@@ZoeyR86 Folks want the choice. If you are in a campground you want absolute privacy. If you are in deep wilderness or even camping on private property you want a more open experience.

@ZoeyR86

Жыл бұрын

@patreekotime4578 the film is electronic in it's no power state it's 100% opaque with about 40-60v ac applied it's 8%

Another awesome find, Mr. Munro! I really like this channel, and i value your eye for quality + fine styling.

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@HydrogenFuelTechnologies

Жыл бұрын

​@@MunroLivegaslighting ⛽ gurus

@grmunson7503

Жыл бұрын

From the highway stance it appeared almost Cybertruck like in profile. I’m a bit surprised there wasn’t a rendering with them paired together rather than the Rivian. Always great to hear Sandy’s observations.

I like a lot the features, particularly that telescoping aspect and the aerodynamic form. I just wish it was smaller size. I dont want to haul a trailer that big. A 12' trailer that i could haul with my model y would be amazing...

@mattbrew11

Жыл бұрын

you are absolutely not going to get a 3500lb self propelled 12’ trailer

@WarrenBowman

Жыл бұрын

I asked the same question when I was there on Saturday, and they told me that they have plans for a smaller version. since these are former Tesla guys, they may be following a similar path, with rolling out the deluxe models first.

@stevencox7459

Жыл бұрын

If it is self propelled, the weight may not be an issue. Control is different to towing. But the EV manufacturers would have to come to the party with changing rateings and control systems that work together.

Love the chassis, not crazy about the interior layout, prefer the Porsche prototype. This market is vastly overdue for innovation. Great company, hope they continue to innovate.

Very unique product and great interview Sandy. Looks perfect behind my CT

Looks great. I just wish they would reduce all the thermal gaps (windows). I'd like to know who they're polling who say they like a spacious RV. Everyone I know would rather have the walls covered with more storage space. On top of that, every RV I've ever seen had a minimal amount of polystyrene in the walls with single pane windows. I wish someone would install 3.5" of polyurethane closed cell or some vacuum insulated panels in the walls. If you build a great thermal envelope you dont need as much electrical power to keep the cabin comfortable.

@mriguy3202

Жыл бұрын

It would be mandatory to have a pickup truck for all your stuff....but I don't see enough storage for food, let alone clothing. Also the air conditioning is extremely power-hungry and the thermal loss or gain will be tremendous, even considering that the solar panels on the roof will help. Not practical. And they have taken a high end RV and added $35,000 in additional complexity.

@mikebalentine

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I did with my diy trailer. Two small windows in the kitchen and one in the bedroom. Rest is insulated walls. Edit: but this is a collapsible trailer which is very smart for EV towing.

@dfghdfzsd

Жыл бұрын

there is overhead storage that they didn’t show. and some storage where the propane would normally be. and under the couch area. they should make a storage accessory to install over one of the windows for extra though. I too think good insulation is important. and most rv parks don’t provide great views. however, you can electo-dim the windows individually- so you can optimize what you see, easily. some other videos cover additional functionality not included in this video.

@markplott4820

Жыл бұрын

@@mriguy3202 - Electric HEAT pump , not a Conventional AC unit, too heavy , inefficient. Defiantly, reduce windows to minimum. and only use Thermal windows. Lightship , should have LESS energy requirements than Conventional RV. ZERO combustion heating & cooking. no longer need Dangerous GAS bottles.

@dfghdfzsd

Жыл бұрын

another aspect i like about the starship is that it would allow you to generate electricity for your home if you park it outside. just install a generator plug/transfer switch. minimal permitting or work required. 80 kWh is a huge bank for a home.

"stash the kids" 🤣 sounds like he doesn't have any yet

Love the intro music. Nice!

I didn't see any curtains or blinds. With all those windows hopefully they'll be offering switchable LCD privacy glass as an option.

@dfghdfzsd

Жыл бұрын

They have the dimmable glass.

@kadmow

Жыл бұрын

those are old fashioned and non ergonomic -- e-frosting double glasing is more "chic" - for a better camping experience. (very tongue in cheek, the target audience will never know))

@dfghdfzsd

Жыл бұрын

@@kadmow never heard of e-frosting. now i’m curious and need to admit i don’t know much about the progress and differences.

A lot that I like about this, both now & the first time I saw it. The largest downside is this thing has an enormous price tag. Kinda has to, w/ that size of battery, etc. Still ... has to or not ... a helluva price tag. I do want to see more action in this arena.

@patreekotime4578

Жыл бұрын

Big battery, miles of glass, and a premium kitchen and bathroom installed. It looks like it costs as much as what houses used to cost.

@kadmow

Жыл бұрын

sorry that made me kill myself - largest downside - -price, longterm economics and resource availability are things which bring the dream back to earth - in all things aviation. (jk).. Bluesky dreams (BSD) - blue or green have yet to receive their real "stress test".

Great idea and execution. I'd be worried about the windows being so close to the bottom in drive mode, putting them in danger of rock strikes.

@jdawg5960

Жыл бұрын

testing should force them to find a solution

@sillystuff6247

Жыл бұрын

It'll be interesting to see how they solve that problem. Maybe ballistic glass? I never thought glass could be so strong, before seeing how safe it makes Teslas.

@adamgreen911

Жыл бұрын

good point, they're going to need blast shields and sweeper skirts. the drop-top idea is appealing, but I've seen quite a few "pop top" campers that have tried, they all failed to deal with where water and dirt find ways to foul things..

Faaabulous. Thanks for that.

🤗THANKS SANDY ,BEN …and the MUNRO TEAM …VERY COOL 😎 🤗💚💚💚

Hey -Ta for the Fisher & Paykel dishwasher shout out there, Sandy. Yes, they are great appliances & on top of their game.

8:53 No patents to worry about. They've had popup travel trailers for 100 years.

Cool! Road mode looks like a sailplane trailer!

Kiwi 'shout out' by Sandy, woot woot!

I've worked out how to justify the huge cost of this camper. Park it next to your house when you're not out 'adventuring' and increase the number of bedrooms available in your home! You could sell it with the home to plump up the bedroom numbers in the real estate ad. Or hire it out as an AirBnB :-)

@kadmow

Жыл бұрын

- and offset the neighbourhood grid unreliability going forwards.

@celeron55

Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting thought. It looks stylish enough to have on the best spot on your yard and in a power outage you could just live there instead of investing the same money into having batteries and solar panels in your house.

@DaveTimperley

Жыл бұрын

@@celeron55 It's a climate change lifepod ha ha. Cyclone, flood, or bush fire coming, drag your lifepod out of it's range. When you return you can live in it while you rebuild

This is doing a lot of things right. The same fundamental concept as the Stella Vita: Raising roof to minimise frontal area, big PV roof, aero shape, lightness. I like the Stella Vita more as I prefer a camper van to a caravan, but this is great as the trailer version. Nice to see someone finally doing it right and using the traction battery as the house battery and not having two. Nearly every conversion just adds a 2nd battery which is just wasting space, weight and efficiency. I dread to think how much it's going to cost, and it's too big to be much use in Europe. But this is the right direction and I look forward to some competition. I'm much closer to Sandy's age, than Ben's but pretty-much the only reason I have for owning a vehicle other than a bike is for camping.

@williamscoggin1509

11 ай бұрын

It has also gotten a lot of things wrong.

@xxwookey

11 ай бұрын

@@williamscoggin1509 Would you care to expand on what things?

It will be interesting to see up dates from lightship.

Pink and grey reminds me of the jumpers we used to wear in the eighties :-)

@DaveTimperley

Жыл бұрын

I've just realised what the interior reminds me of. Miami Vice!

I'm looking forward to seeing a Tesla Semi motorhome for the ultimate glamping experience with all the electrical conveniences of home. With the battery in that thing you could have a live Rock concert at any location that you can take it too.

@sillystuff6247

Жыл бұрын

gonna happen and will be glorious !

What an amazing camper, I want one! ;)

I get why they chose a rain shower head, but I hate it. They use huge amounts of water and any soap you put on is rinsed straight off before you get a chance to give yourself a good scrub, defeating the entire point of having a shower in the first place. Low flow taps and shower heads are so much more efficient in terms of water usage. It might have been nice if they'd been able to incorporate a water recycling shower into the design. They will filter the water until the sensors detect that the water has become too dirty before allowing fresh water into the system.

"I'm into colors, blending, you know...things like that." -Sandy Munro

This seems like an absolute dream to own alongside a Cybertruck. I want the pair of them very much.

@markplott4820

Жыл бұрын

having a Collapsible RV insert (truck bed) is more Efficient than towing Anything.

@Pikminiman

Жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 : I'm keeping an eye on Cyberlandr as well. It's not just one or the other; I want them both to exist.

Nice video Sandy. Thanks for sharing.

Nicely filmed. Shout out to me 😂😅

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Nice one

We have 4 of those fish washers. At my work. One works. Two have been swapped for another brand and two are used as drying racks. Even on the one that “works”, it cleans terribly. There is only one swing arm below. It mostly steams dishes.

I had been advocating for Tesla to put batteries and motors on the trailers for the Semi like the Airstream electric. After watching this it occured to me that doing the same for trailers being pulled by diesel tractors would do good things. Better mpg, better hill climbing, regeneration, better refrigeration.

Good work guys . Impressed 👍

When the L1 Camper is in drive mode, the windows will be easily cracked by passing car/truck stone chips. Would need to put PPF over the windows.

@dscarty

Жыл бұрын

You’re not paying attention.

@DishNetworkDealerNEO

Жыл бұрын

All they would need is to have is some hinged hard panels to flip over from their stowed positions on the roof to cover the front windows in collapsed Road Mode.

Man, a CyberTruck towing this Lightship camper would look really cool!. And when undocked and parked at right angles to the CyberTruck, will make a real fun and suave looking camp. Great job. How much is it again ?.

@fteoOpty64

Жыл бұрын

Sandy say it with me: "Fisher and Pie-kle" not pay-kle!. NZ brand, main distributor LV Martin and Sons Ltd.

Thank you!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Sandy Munro / Munro Live & Ben Parker, this was an inspiring video! The long wished for all-electric RV is in sight & attainable! The LightShip addresses all the issues: power assist wheels, abundant solar power generation, clean indoor air (no propane or diesel) water conserving appliances, spacious & flexible interior, and abundant natural light ! And it’s quiet, without a noisy, smelly generator. All the best, I can’t wait to see this project take off 💫

Cool! Airstream also makes Electric camper. I like this one better.

I love the overall idea, so please don't take my comments as being negative. Windows: There are way to many windows for me. We once rented one of those rooftop hotel rooms in Mexico and felt like we were in a fish bowl. I can't help wondering what it would be like in Minnesota when it is 10 below zero. And don't forget the mosquito netting. I am hoping we can order with different molded inserts; some solid with a high R-value and some with windows. The we can choose how much open we want. Aerodynamics: If the truck had a topper of the same height as the main trailer and you made that box (over the tongue) the same height also; there would be a continuous roof line all the way from the truck cab to the back of the trailer. Wouldn't that have the best aerodynamics? Backroom sink: Should be bigger backroom sink. That one looks pretty but that weird one would be dated so fast. Would also get water all over the place. Give them a chance to wash their elbows and their socks! Canopy: Needs a canopy for shade and rain. Could be a canopy embedded in the roof edge (for aerodynamic reasons). Or add a couple nacelles ala Star Trek with running lights and have the Canopy in these. Then you will truly have a Star Ship!! 🙂 Kitchen setup: Love it, love it, love it! Wonder: 1 - how many sizes this will come in 2 - total weight? 3 - likely pricing? 4 - CATL batteries? Thanks for a great idea. Tom

@mattbrew11

Жыл бұрын

Most of this info is on their website

Very cool trailer. I have seen that guy present it before on another channel a few months ago. Big bucks but it is a great package for sure.

Been saying it for year's that it makes more sense to have a trailer with a decent battery (2nd life) pack built in as a range extender. When not in use you plug it into your home. Charge from solar pv. Forget V2L etc. Imagine all the compact cars towing one of these trailer's when on holidays. A common standard needs to be developed.

Love the Spider-Man reference! Hahaha

Sandy likes it which is great but.... More importantly, what was Sue's reaction? Inquiring minds need to know! The timing was interesting to me as earlier today I was thinking about how DOT would react to camping trailers with electric kicker motors in them to extend range of the tow vehicles along with what could be done to add such to existing pop-up/hi-low or teardrop trailers. Best!

@alexkleine9737

Жыл бұрын

Airstream debuted their electric trailer concept at the Tampa show in 2022.

@neilfromclearwaterfl81

Жыл бұрын

@@alexkleine9737 Yes, an event that I missed out on. It will be interesting to see if/when suppliers such as E-Trailer start making the drive axles and controllers available for the DYI crowd.

Could always demo it at fully charged live in Vancouver and Austin this year.

Very good job 👏

@MunroLive

11 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Well that's Long Beach Arena, and this seems like a cool event.

Thanks for sharing this experience Love Munro!

All those windows, lowered down closer to gravel strikes. And what charging station will accomodate two vehicles, linked as a train. Looks nice. But expensive, and damn hard to recharge unless you're just moving between 50A campsites. A heartfelt good luck guys. I hope all those windows are doubleglazed for four season use.

@williamscoggin1509

11 ай бұрын

And apparently no window shades for nighttime privacy.

How do you darken the caravan? i don't see any shutters or curtains?

@WarrenBowman

Жыл бұрын

The windows are coated with a film that can be made opaque or clear with the flick of a switch.

Glad to have met you guys again. Hope to see you guys again next year. This event has gotten bigger with more EVs. Thx for exploring more of Lightship as I didnt know many things were hidden!

I think this changes the travel trailer game entirely... being able to drop the trailer stand, disconnect the tow hitch, pop the top and take a shower, plug in the EV tow vehicle to charge it you like. no generator setup, no propane, no loud AF 12V water pump.

Sandy should've brought his R1T and tow it for a while to see how it really works 😊

Looks amazing can’t wait to get one!

Using this for an electric food truck is a slam dunk. No more noisy polluting generators. Compatible with new electric trucks. Maybe even charge your truck while boondocking! No need for propane, either. Make it convertible from food truck to RV and I can tow it with my Cybertruck for business or vacation. I may well just be able to stock the regular trailer with equipment and make it a mobile kitchen. Catering, festivals, events. This thing would be a total boss at Lakes Of Fire or Burning Man.

I’m not convinced anyone at this company has ever gone RVing. Not every campground has great views so windows are great, but curtains are a must to increase privacy and keep things cool. More storage is also a must for any real camping.

@WarrenBowman

Жыл бұрын

The windows will have an electronic film on them that will allow them to be made opaque with the flip a switch. And there is a lot of storage inside.

It looks awesome but the door design isn’t great fit for the camping. It will be difficult to keep the bugs out when going in and out.

I hope we can see it soon on the roads

This looks awesome, and makes my DIY fully electric trailer retrofit look like a really early prototype.

Ben, consider business line of selling tub with battery and motor separately to RV and Trailer companies. Range extender for anything being pulled, (boat, work tools, tree grinder etc ) is large market.

This would go great with my Cybertruck.

these two gentleman are class acts 👍

@williamscoggin1509

11 ай бұрын

Sandy is for sure, the other guy is just a salesman....

@therJrep

11 ай бұрын

@@williamscoggin1509 what do you mean “just”. He’s the one that made munro popular online. You don’t know what you’re talking avlut

Can’t wait to see these on the road

As much as I love the idea of all those windows and "bring the outside in", the reality is that a LOT of RV camping is not out in the middle of nowhere at a secluded camp site... it's in a park or at an event where you're up side by side with other campers.

@francis_lang

6 ай бұрын

A mirror or dark tint would fix that issue

Outstanding vechile.

All the campsites I've ever stayed in were packed. All those windows would be views to the neighbors campers. We normally pull the curtains closed on the windows.

@WarrenBowman

Жыл бұрын

You will be able to make the windows opaque with the flip of a switch.

God Damn genius!

Cool product and great video!

This is VERY cool. Probably also VERY expensive, but that's to be expected for now.

Expensive greenhouse.

Yes! Sandy is the man.

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

The man, the myth, the legend.

@HydrogenFuelTechnologies

Жыл бұрын

​​​@@MunroLive NASA May 2023 Technological Projection Report? You read it Munro and ASSociates? You probably should. Sandy as a cyborg scares me, exponential gaslighting then 😅

@HydrogenFuelTechnologies

Жыл бұрын

​@@MunroLiveohh and ps Nasa contractors must know something Munro and ASSociates don't, they mention Hydrogen LENR (low energy nuclear reactions) Technology a half a dozen times as if they "know" the technology is ready and real. Lol 😄 😆 🤣 H-Cat ☢ 4 Life

@HydrogenFuelTechnologies

Жыл бұрын

​@@MunroLiventrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20230005204/downloads/NASA-TM-20230005204.pdf

The surprising thing is they have a prototype and not just cad renders.

I was waiting for the "Sandy Test" and i couldn't have guessed this would be something he objectively and subjectively enjoys. This is something I would personally be into for basic camping needs without the hassle, I am going to assume they will be releasing different variants with more (rigid) capabilities for different use-cases but I think this will be a great mass market camper if the price is affordable. I can't wait for all the spins off start-ups with former Tesla employees , I kind of want a map of disrupted industries that was due to former Tesla employees with "Tesla philosophy" to make a product

okayyyyyyy.........

Uncle Parker should be proud!

They will find that after-sales service is a costly problem. Buyers will take them all over where they will break. The existing infrastructure for RV repairs is pretty awful in the USA. On the other hand, quality control and manufacturer support for existing RVs is so terrible they might be able to stake out a marketing high ground.

@Nphen

Жыл бұрын

Yeah with the service issues the "competition" has, I think Lightship stands a chance if they get funding. They're getting good test data on the raise/lower function by taking it around to shows. They see where it's wearing down. Sounds like they're camping in it sometimes too. Maybe once they have a second prototype they can haul this one down off-road trails it's not meant to go on and see what shakes loose.

@jebediahkerman3946

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, as a lifelong RVer I've learned that if you can't fix it yourself, you're just ripe for being ripped off.

The BIG question that wasn't addressed is the price. $$$$$$ ??? My guess is $ 20,000 minimum.

Great design & attention to detail thanks. What about privacy?

Larger than what I'm considering for retirement in a few years, but that gives Lightship and others time to come out with newer, smaller, and even better models. I'm definitely intrigued.

Thanks for sharing. Like #662. Cool product!

I love the 'tech' in this project. The design is leaving me a bit cold. In a house, we like big windows to bring the outside, in. When you're in a camper, you are literally within the environment so I see less of a need for stonking great panes of glass everywhere. I'd be more interested is some sort of frosted transparent material (giving the impression of rice paper maybe?) that let in the light, but diffused it and gave a bit more privacy. lot's of options to open these panels out to let the air in. Like other comments, I see problems with stone chips, and be careful how you park it cause windows seem to attract tree branches ha ha.

Ok we spend over a 100 days a year in our airstream and I’ll give a few things I noticed. The bed is an afterthought and would be good for minimal number of days and people especially when you have to make it each day and no storage was shown for any blankets or sheets. There seemed to be minimal stowage throughout. Our classic 30 has tons of storage. People that like EV’s like tech and this didn’t even show a TV. Not even cheap small one or stereo system. They didn’t even mention heat or air and you can’t see any ducts so not sure about that. Appliance type was great but most would rather have a bigger fridge than a dishwasher. This seems for people just spending a day or two out and they won’t need to do dishes. And the fridge style won’t be easy to use. The aesthetics of the bathroom were great but that sink is a joke and needs to go. It’s built for a 3 yr old. You need a air fan for exhaust and temp control. Our airstream has radiant heat that is incredible and silent. The large shower is great. Didn’t mention size of any tanks. Outside you need a receptacle. A satellite or Starlink connection. More storage. An outside shower, awning, and you need to be able to carry bikes. Preferably e bikes which are heavy so something on the back or at least a hitch to attach to. And all people that pull trailers have some type of anti sway hitch or like us we have an incredible propride hitch that is zero sway. The front has so many cowlings near the hitch that it doesn’t look like anything could be added. Maybe you have a fancy system that controls the wheels for braking along with the motor. Another plus would be a DC to DC cable to run from the tow vehicle to charge the trailer. I’m sure not all people will tow with an EV. You don’t want a limited market like that. Aerodynamics are great and overall looks and styling and materials just need some changes and you’ll get a bigger market. This seems like it’s meant to be used just on a weekend.

@dfghdfzsd

Жыл бұрын

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I like the double axle. You don’t necessarily save energy with this pusher but you do have more available energy to start your trip and going forward and reduce by 66% your charging stops. You also reduce the strain on your puller, save brakes, wheels, suspension (double axle), etc. Windows are great for connecting with nature but unfortunately have low R and U ratings. Double pane is getting closer to a 3-pane solution 😊. How much more energy you consume with 2 fridge + 1 freezer? Love the dishwasher. The I guess they will rethink the door like two-part horse stall doors. 200KCA$ is not a cheap proposition. How will this function in the northern climates?

Love the dishwasher

@markplott4820

Жыл бұрын

Compostable Dishes & servingware.

@irri4662

Жыл бұрын

@Mark Plott I would rather have a hot tub . But composting is good too.

I bet there would be a market just for the battery and motor trailer without the camper part of it. I didn't know the range loss was that bad so having a powered trailer could be very useful to anyone with an EV that wants to tow something. Maybe even Uhaul might want something like this, though I'm the down side would be the crazy expense of it. Considering a 80kw battery I bet the base price would be at least $30,000 just for an empty trailer. Which for most people wouldn't be worth it since you could just get a whole truck for that price.

"Bringing the out side in" seems like they took the marketing pitch and styling of the ssiling catamarans that can't sail.

What about adding regenerative brakes that connect to the 7-pin brake controller?

@kadmow

Жыл бұрын

- if this has a functional pusher motor, surely it regens on the back side... ?? (loadcell / or other - scale device to determine needs of accel or brake, makes sense /not hard to engineer - and this device is not cost effective at all, so no real economic concerns)

If it has spare solar it could be made charge the car on the fly/overnight.

@mattbrew11

Жыл бұрын

Charging off solar overnight eh?

Very nice indeed! Just a wee note Sandy kiwi pronunciation is PIEkill not PAYkal ,,,,I have no idea why.

i wod like to own one, i liked what i see.

Modern Class B vans equipped with lithium battery packs like the Volta battery system on Winnebago's Travato model are well known for run time. I hope this company is taking any advantage of using 12v appliances if possible to extend boondocking range. My Embassy RV has all systems in 12v, except for the microwave and TV and it works perfectly. If I were to own a trailer like this, I would likely use gas powered truck with a second alternator to charge the trailer, if that is possible on the trailer. My 2021 Embassy RV on the Ford Transit 350 HD chassis has the second alternator to charge the lithium pack when driving and when it gets low at the campground. I'd want the same for this kind of trailer. Love seeing Sandy get into the nuts and bolts of the underside. Great and interesting video...

@timsteinkamp2245

Жыл бұрын

I run my rig on 24 volt but should be 48 which is going to be the norm. I use a 12 volt from the 120 AC to run off the inverter for all my assorted 12 volt. It is nice having a steady 13.5 power supply. Eventually it will be electric propulsion then you just need a small engine for battery charging. Plan on not using propane. Electric hot water, heating and cooking along with refrigeration. It will always be cheaper to use home appliances because they are mass produced.

I'd like to see it have two motors for differential steering (so it can be remote parked under it's own power, and software could eliminate sway.)

@neilfromclearwaterfl81

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Those are features of AirStreams concept trailer the EStream which they revealed over a year ago. Two separate motors allow for more dynamic sway control plus remote control for parking on a campsite without having to back it in with a tow vehicle, easier hitching by having the trailer drive up to the hitch and the ability to back the trailer into an EV charging station by its remote control. It's a more traditional AirStream shell design with better aerodynamics and a completely new chassis. Leverages bluetooth and voice commands to control onboard systems and perform diagnostics by simply asking questions. Full solar roof plus for those that were concerned about storage it has upper cabinets and fewer windows than the Lightship. Designed for EV towing but also reduces fuel consumption when towed by ICE vehicles. AirStream with Thor Industries backing them might be in a better position to bring this to market since they already have the fully vetted out production facilities and capacity to do so. Its based on Thor's ToBel platform so it will be interesting to see what else is in the works in Thor's other product lines. I blinked and missed this revelation last year. Oops! Best!

@mattbrew11

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Sway control is already solved on modern trucks of all types. The parking assist isn’t really worth the extra complexity

@adamgreen911

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​@@mattbrew11 try driving a tow vehicle with sway control … it works in the brochure, not on the road and trailer brakes are not differential, so the trailer can only pull the vehicle, it can't arrest the fishtail. I have a '21 F-150 and it does well, but its weakness is downhill curves … requires the trailer brakes to do the work … regen on the trailer would be "free" energy and differential braking would solve the physics equations of trailer sway going downhill through curves.. As for parking, again, in practice, close quarters parking is practically impossible with a bumper pull. Being able to unhitch and maneuver the trailer into a tight spot is valuable … it can also be an option … but I think dual motors would prove _less expensive_ because the belly of chassis can remain open to carry the battery, independent suspension favors independent drive modules, etc. Lightship is also early in this alpha development and will be looking at shorter trailers, off-road suspension … modular drives make for a more versatile shared platform. Maybe even hub motors. Last I heard they don't have a battery vendor contract (despite the comments made in passing in this video) and don't have a motor chosen. They're rumored to be looking at a partnership with VW for a "id" drive unit (maybe that's more than a rumor.)

@adamgreen911

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@@neilfromclearwaterfl81 Right. That's the demo I'm referencing. I can only hope that Airstream is treating Lightship seriously and will do a lot more with their estream product to compete with the innovative advances we see in the L1. There's another EV RV vendor with fold-out PV awnings and 70kWh+ … that's a heavy trailer, but seems like a more realistic semi-ff-road traveler.

@neilfromclearwaterfl81

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@@mattbrew11 Yes to a degree the stability control helps however with additional stress on the tow vehicles braking system which equals heat and wear plus brake fade so no substitute for a well engineered system on the trailer. We still see too many of these "Modern" trucks laying on their sides after being overwhelmed by trailer sway. Parking assist is a side bar benefit to having a solar powered trailer which also has a traction motor to increase tow vehicle fuel economy making every ICE powered tow vehicle somewhat of a HYBRID when towing the E-Trailer. They had to have a control module for the traction motors and such which came from automotive so why not leverage the stability control and braking control that those automotive systems are capable of? This is vastly superior to mechanical hitch mounted sway dampers that wear and need adjustment since they can't automatically adjust themselves to changing conditions. The mechanical systems also require a level of user expertise for them to understand when they need adjustment and be capable of doing so. Just the possibility to have regenerative braking on the trailers drive motors is a great thing when descending long grades and a great safety feature. Parking assist is just a foot note compared to all the other benefits. Best!