Feel like I forgot a pull? I am willing to suggest there is a high chance it might have been included in the previous video I did on the subject! Here is a link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4N726hrk7G7qKQ.html Enjoy!

Brayflox's Longstop (Hard) deserves an honourable mention, it isn't that dangerous to mass pull, but the shear number of enemies you can pull at once up to first boss is funny.

@misawa8629

6 ай бұрын

that pull can cause new healers to panic because of the mobs that will randomly blast other party members. That definitely happened to me lol

@CasualCoreK

6 ай бұрын

it was SO FUN as Blue Mages during Moogle Treasure Trove!

@Asako_Gaming

5 ай бұрын

This was a killer back in ARR. The gear wasn't synced to 130 back then and new WHM had to Cleric Stance Holy which a lot didn't do. Some opted to just weak Holy them whilst others wouldn't even try. In DF I test the team with my first pull and from there see if I can pull more or have to slow down.

I think the halfpoint pull after the second boss of mount gulg deserves a mention. This pull goes from the gates after the first set of succubi sin eaters all the way to forgiven revelry. This one is hard due to the massive hp pools and damage output of the buffed sin eaters. The roomwides from the sphynxes, and of course revelry itself and its aoes

@HayTatsuko

6 ай бұрын

I won't even try that one any more. I've seen others try it in DF groups, and I've tried it as the Tank in Trusts, and we almost always ended up getting faceplanted if the Tank tried to take everything in that last section. More sensible just to take the first two packs -- which can still be a tad scary! -- and deal with the third pack by itself, since it has two of those nasty Forgiven Prejudice sphinxes.

@escahfaidhe755

6 ай бұрын

@HayTatsuko I do the two pack pull too. I have seen the three pack there and it's completely psychotic. Luckily they had me. A blm. Who knows damn well how to aoe

@shiki3050

5 ай бұрын

The very first 3 mob packs together also deserve an honorable mention as they hit like trucks and will absolutely shreds the tank hp if the group isn't prepared for it

smh why cant I pull the ENTIRE dungeon

@raarasunai4896

6 ай бұрын

Calm down there, Smokey!

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

That would be quite wild! I wonder how bosses would interact with such a situation, and most importantly, can you cleave the first boss down in the time before you reach the final boss? 😂

@gunsmokes175

6 ай бұрын

@@CaetsuChaijiCh I want all the adds and bosses in the end room

@muhaiminhussain5843

6 ай бұрын

Skill issue

@joshpar9402

6 ай бұрын

You need dps that won't tickle the mobs along the way BUT can burst them down fast when you get to your destination, and a healer that can keep you alive without pulling aggro. Once you have your exodia team, go nuts brah, there's nothing cooler than having like 60 mobs surrounding you and they all drop in a perfect circle.

Bardam’s Mettle first mega pull is probably the most difficult because players are often undergeared and for some reason the mobs just seem to hit harder than the mobs in most dungeons. If everyone is fully geared it’s a breeze though.

@minaly22

5 ай бұрын

I have trauma here on the two initial wall to walls (before the first boss) here. They had absolutely terrifying amount of damage.

@argentpuck

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely. I've done almost all the post-ARR W2W pulls, but that one always makes me double-check before I go if I'm tank or pucker up hard if I'm healing.

megapulls are bestpulls, they are scary but really fun to do, eveen if you wipe there is a big probability that you killed some mobs on the way, making the next try easier

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

Very true! As long as you killed something, round two will go easier!

The hardest pulls that I can think of in terms of the sheer amount time I've been in a party that wipes to them are the first two in Bardam's Mettle and the full pull before Mt. Gulg's first boss and the pull after the second boss. It's crazy how often people just shoot out into that first pull in Bardam's with no regard to the probably sprout healer and then we wipe like 3 times. Gulg is late enough in the game though that it's fun to see if you can do them as a little extra challenge, but people usually ask before those pulls. Side note: I feel like it used to be a lot more common to do the Shisui and Doma Castle pulls. But having just got all my jobs to 70 finally, I saw a lot more people splitting those ones up.

One of the latter pulls in mount gulg and tower of zot can be pretty rough, as well as i think one of the latter troia pulls

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

Indeed, mount gulg has two insane pulls with I believe 4 or 5 packs each, one at the start and one at the end! Tower of zots final pull is also quite wild!

@definitelynotaweeb6879

6 ай бұрын

@@CaetsuChaijiCh The final Zot pull is pretty tough, although any reasonably skilled tank can do it no problem, I did it as a DRK without oblation on my first run although I did have to invuln it

I shall point out the unique and punishing mega-pull of the Ravel dungeon. The mobs between the 2nd boss and the final boss are normally split up as 2 packs a wall, 2 packs, then a set of Gorillas drop down to continue the battle once the local mobs are gone. But. If you grab the mobs after the wall and backtrack down the giant tree, you can force the Gorillas to drop down early and make it a nasty 3 pack battle that is now permanent (they will not go back into the trees if you wipe) you have bomb type enemies and plenty of AoEs going on that getting clipped can end a tank through their defensives if they didn't slap the invuln button in time.

@matus19971

6 ай бұрын

One of the most fun pulls in the game!

@SakuraShuuichi

6 ай бұрын

I blew my cohealers mind when i showed them this while running roulettes a few years ago, i found out about it while grinding tank levels/trust levels a little after shadowbringers came out

A few pulls that come to mind for me are the first and the final Mt. Gulg megapulls (final is especially brutal due to the sheer amount of AoEs + forgiven prejudice's interruptible roomwide of which there are 2), all of Bardam if you either have an undergeared tank or an unprepared healer and the first & second pull in Vanaspati, the mobs have a slight delay in the first one which can cause them to attack the healer first rather than the tank and there's Idolizers on the second pull which don't just hit hard but also refuse to stay stacked so the tank has to move around quite a bit should you have a caster. All these pulls are very fun but it can be rough and stressful when using duty roulette. o7

@HayTatsuko

6 ай бұрын

That final Mt. Gulg megapull will have three Forgiven Prejudices going at once (1 from 2nd pack, 2 from 3rd pack), I think? It's asking a bit much for the Healer to cover the party there if the Tank is the only character with an interrupt.

Its not really anything to crazy but when im in a party with friends ill pull everything in the first room of aurum vale and they hate it

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

How does it usually go? 😅

@zeka7434

6 ай бұрын

Usually at least one wipe lol but since its friends it's still fun,dying is the best part of ff14 imo

I just finished 5.0 today and I remember wiping during the pull between the second and last boss in Mt Gulg, but only because the sin eaters were so big we couldn't see any AoEs that were happening lol

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, that pull is quite notorious too! 😂

@Kitkat5335

6 ай бұрын

Usually you see people die to not seeing something cause they have all the shiny effects on causing them to be blind to seeing any of the indicators, but yeah that second Mt. Gulg pull can be pretty hairy if not seeing the attacks on top of the number of AOE that have only cast bars going off. Easiest done with a Whm healer, but possible with other healers and good tank (Done it as a drk, war, and seen gnb and pld do this as well). Usually if I'm a DPS with one of these pulls I'm utilizing bloodbath to take stress off the healer who needs to focus on other things. Something you don't often see DPS do to assist in surviving these easier.

When I saw the title of the video I immediately thought: "I bet you that one Shisui pull is here." and there it was! Personally that pull is my favorite pull of all the Stormblood dungeons. It's actually hard enough to challenge both the healer and the tank during the pull. I remember fumbling with the pull the first time the tank in my group tried wall-to-walling it, wiped, then the tank asked me if he should slow down. I said "No. do the pull again. I got this." and pulled it off afterwards. The feeling of keeping the tank alive after an unsuspecting amount of damage (as an AST too!) makes me remember this dungeon fondly while I was learning. And whenever I get this dungeon on Levelling roulette as a healer I'll always say to the tank to wall-to-wall if he's confident enough.

@matus19971

6 ай бұрын

It's definitely fun. My first time ever leveling a healer I told the tank in Cutter's Cry to pull all the way to the Chimera. It was his first time tanking 😂 he was hesitant but I managed to persuade him. He had a blast! 😂

@rainfallen7574

6 ай бұрын

I LOVE tanking that pull on drk and come to love it on war

Stone vigil is actually an interesting one because of the history of the game. when arr came out stone vigil was very difficult on sch because at that level sch still had high int and low mind(they were close to even at the level it synced to but that was low mind and high int when compaired to whm it also was very awkward because cleric stance swapped the avalues of int and mnd so it pretty much didn't do anything except decrease healing until around level 46 or 47) as well as not having access to certain spells(sch was super good at healing due to fairy for 15-30 but post 30 it had a bit of a dead zone until around lvl 46-49) made sch difficult on top of that paladin had no magic defense and those ice sprites would destroy paladins, warrior was not much better due to sacrificing some defense for having more hp but it faired better due to having some self healing(at this point paladin could cross class cure and stone skin, but cure was not very useful and the cast for both were usually interrupted by the amount of incoming damage). The Dzmael Darkhold pulls was actually harder before due to the positioning of some of the enemies on a side path down the cliff, a frog could aggro along with another 5-6 ish mobs making the wall to wall pull pretty much impossible if it was in the worng part of its pathing, as well as again the low magic defense of tanks. That aurum vale pull was actually one of the level grinding pulls we used to do before they changed dungeon experience to only come from bosses, of course we'd do it slightly different than just wall to wall, sniping the forgs and then taking care of the rest of the room, that being said the Lilies of the Vale were another problematic enemy due to dealing magic damage, although at this point everyone had most of their tools so it wasn't that big of a deal. I will note the other stupid pull was after the coin counter where you would pull everything and let the eggs hatch because they gave more xp after they hatched and that pull was also very difficult(especially compared to aoeing 1-2 times while running past to kill them before they hatch) Some time during HW magic defense on tanks was changed because in the raid series some of the tank busts() were not really possible on anything aside from drk(due to it having the exclusive magic defense CD) Basically all of arr had a lot of very difficult(none were impossible but some are very close and required very specific strategy when they were new, at the time the strategy was mainly for the tank to survive for a few seconds while a blm slept everything and immediately aggro'd the boss to lock adds outside to door) Brayflox normal was another very interesting one for sch specifically as it did not have access to esuna during arr and instead had its own version called Leeches which it didn't have at that level in the dungeon that was pretty much your first instance of cleansable debuffs that were worth cleansing(stacking poison from the final boss, the other instance was the guildhest meant to teach you about cleasing debuffs in which the description says to use esuna or leeches on sch however sch did not have leeches at the level it synced you to) on top of that the comet chaser trash mobs dealt fire damage which was magic and as I mentioned previously chewed through tanks hp really fast, interesting side note most people would focus the flame drake first but they were largely not dangerous primarily doing physical and have a fairly long cast for their one elemental attack, on top of all that a lot of jobs didn;t have an aoe at that level, so targeting priority was somewhat more important. One of the crazy megapulls at the time of release I remember was from Wanderer's Palace(Hard)(thank you @cloud7050 for pointing that mistake out), pulling everything from the dungeon entrance to the door of the first boss, and then the entrance of brayflox longstop(Hard) to the first boss although that one always felt a lot easier than ofthers even though there were more enemies in the pull than some of the others.

@Cloud7050

6 ай бұрын

"palace of the dead(Hard)", first boss? Do you mean Haukke Manor (Hard), second boss?

@SakuraShuuichi

6 ай бұрын

@@Cloud7050talk about a brain fart, i meant wanderers palace hard XD

The worst part about mega pulls is getting a tank who mega pulls, but doesn't pop any defensive cooldown ever :(

Ah, Anamnesis Anyder. That was when I was doing DRK full time for my tank achievements, and that post-2nd boss pull was always fun. I did always ask the healer if they wanted to do it, and most days it went perfectly fine!

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

I had a similar experience myself, but Indeed knew some that just didn't like it! 😅 I think maybe people were more afraid of the pull due to the potential disagreements that could happen on whether it should be done or not! 🤔😊

@TH3_DR3W

6 ай бұрын

I love that pull. I love it as a tank, and I love it as a healer. Don't remember if I've had the pleasure of doing it as a DPS, but I'd probably love it.

@orciencor6001

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, both the mentioned pulls in Anamnesis were fun pulls to heal through. First time I did that, was when it was current content, with a DRK who basically just told me they were gonna wall pull (or asked me, I forget honestly). And I'm the sort who'll just roll with such things the best I can, so I was okay with it. If we died, we died and could just try again anyway, or simple not wall pull. And I bet if it weren't for the walls in front of the bosses, they'd have pulled straight in, haha. I think the most surprising part was that I swear I barely had to heal that DRK, and they never used LD (nor did the dps LB).

Getting a pre-made together just to try and pull the entire first room on aurum vale sounds hilarious and so much fun. I've been looking for an excuse to start using superbolide on my gunbreaker, now i have 2 videos i can reference to find places i can actual try and do it.

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

Good luck with the funny mega pulls! 😄

@reilie9115

6 ай бұрын

Gunbreaker in AV? The lvl sync is 49 so no superbolide unfortunately.

@Wordsman

6 ай бұрын

@@reilie9115 I separated the paragraphs to try and separate the ideas. sorry for the confusion, I am aware that superbolide is lvl 50 skill.

@misawa8629

6 ай бұрын

I've found myself in many groups as a tank where the other party members aren't paying attention and get grabbed by a nix and end up pulling way more mobs than i ever wouldd in that room. Never have done the whole room though.

The ShadowBringers dungeons usually have some dangerous wall to wall pulls, especially for new or leveling tanks

Havent watched the video yet but, Brayflox Longstop HM was my favorite wall to wall pull. It was one of the reasons why we now have two mob packs then a stop in a lot of dungeons after ARR

Some of them I've never thought of trying, but I did do the second half and interestingly, thought they were basically the norm just a bit harder than normal maybe but its expected right? I'd just always pull that wall to wall.

Some of those pulls never even occurred to me haha!

I probably mentioned this in the other hardest wall-to-wall pulls video, but I'll mention it again. The level 50 dungeon, Amdapor Keep, the final super pull. Not only is it a really long pull, meaning your sprint will run out before you're near the end, but most of the mobs in the pull are ranged, so you're getting pelted the entire way. Without a coordinated healer, this pull is near impossible. I have successfully done it once. I was on Paladin and the healer was a WHM. I told them that when everything was grouped, I would Hallowed Ground, so they wouldn't spam Holy while I was invulnerable and to give time for my mits to refresh. It was a very stressful pull.

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

You probably did mention it then too 😊 I think the reason I see it as "less" challenging is simply that the sheer length of the hallways give your dps an eternity to whittle down the mobs before you stop anywhere. However, your healer may have trouble providing enough healing against, for example, the ranged attacks you mentioned. I think it might very heavily depend on your healer whether it feels impossible or not! But I can see what you mean! 🤔😊 Note: I see it this way probably because sage would have a much easier time with a pull like this than a white mage given their toolkits at level 50!😅

@Dw7freak

6 ай бұрын

@@CaetsuChaijiCh Probably. It also doesn't help that it's an optional ARR endgame dungeon in the 10s roulette, so a good amount of players probably don't even have the duty unlocked, thus not many people having experience actually running the dungeon or practice with it. It's one of those few ARR dungeons where you can pull from one boss straight to the next boss door for all the pulls, as well, and all those mega pulls can be difficult. I just mentioned the last one because of how many ranged mobs there are, no way to block LOS from them, and all the bridges that you have to cross that keep you in their LOS.

I remember when I was still a little babu player, the first big pull to really give me trouble as a healer was the mega pull after the 2nd boss of Great Gubal Library (Hard). Between the LoS issues climbing the stairs and me not knowing how to heal effectively yet, it may as well have been a savage fight in the middle of the dungeon. Really shows my growth that by the end of HW I was having 10min runs while learning a different healer and being excited to try *actual* savage in SB

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

Oh yeah that place is also super weird if I recall correctly, with somewhat strange adds too! 😅 That is a massive growth!

I'm so sad the game has started walling so frequently. It's really fun to pull big. After cooldowns have been used, they demand stutter-step kiting. It's very fun.

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I think it would be interesting to see what we could do if the walls were torn down in higher level dungeons! 😁

Done the Baelsar's Wall 2 times through Roulette today. On the first I stopped before the last pack because I wasn't expecting the damage, but on the 2nd run I managed to pull through leading with Hallowed Ground. Props to the healers

In ShB I loved the last big pull on Anamnesis Anyder it was my favorite dungeon and it was really fun to tank it as DRK. One time I even managed to cleanse walking dead with Abyssal Drain xD

I don't remember if it was in your last video. Castrum abania is one of those kinds of pulls for me. I think cause it catches you off guard. Most pulls are small, awkward, and easy, then all of a sudden you can have a huge pack on your hands at the one bridge

Learning all roles on Tam tara Deepcroft normal in three or so pulls. Starting right off the bat with with the first pull and manu more with each orb to interact with as the end of each pull. it's difficult due to the lack of starting tools and likely many people new to the game let alone large tanking pulls. Having a group to run with makes it really fun and good experience.

I think it would be cool to make a video showing a healer pulling everything, and finishing the pack with DPS assist. Basically to simulate the "You pull, you tank" situation. I've been doing this a lot in dungeons lately. It's a ton of fun, and puts those tanks in their place pretty handily :3

Great now I’m always gonna try these I didn’t even know some of these pulls were possible.

A big pull I like is between 1st and 2nd bosses of Saint Mocianne's Arboretum, if the dps are on board you can burst down the hive walls and then slide down into the boss room without fighting any of the trash.

Honorable mention to "Mt. Gulg" and in particular the packs. You can pull ALL the mobs from the start to the 1st boss, and you can also pull ALL mobs after the second boss to the final boss.

I actually did number 4 today, props to the healer using rescue to speed up after i grabbed the chest on the side

My friends and I loved finding new ways to do big pulls and one of the most memorable ones was being able to pull all the mobs after the 2nd boss of hell's lid. If you killed a specific mob at the end of the initial big pull, it'll bring down the wall and lets your pull the 2 guardian enemies right before the last boss. I think we only found this because of running the dungeon for the whittret minion lol

One pull that is deceptive is the very first of Pharos Sirus (Normal). There aren't many enemies (a gate is in the way), but the telegraphs can be difficult to see in the water, there isn't much space on the regular floor and you quickly receive vuln stacks. Yep. Actual vuln stacks. If you are like me and got a group that hasn't run this one in a good while, it is going to be a painful one.

@CaetsuChaijiCh

5 ай бұрын

Indeed, I believe that first pull has more like.. Big mobs than many, so you can easily mistakenly pull a bunch thinking it's a small pull only to get overwhelmed! 😅

I'm so sad that Holminster wasn't mentioned. As a healer main this was the first dungeon I ever wiped as a healer when starting out, and when I queued as tank/dps also was the place where I wiped the most (due to inexperienced or extremely bad healers). Theres also that very mean starting room at Aurum Vale and the stupid sharp-turning-corner in stone vigil that cuts line of sight and often interrupts casts. All the other dungeons I have had less trouble and either never wiped there or almost did. Anyway, one incident regarding Holminster Switch was that we had a omni lv90 who was on white mage but didn't use Regen at all. We wiped a few times during pulls. I ask them to use regen and they told me to use Clemency. Me and the DPS then just collectively decided to vote dismiss after that. Sure, ask a PLD to clemency for f0cks sake. It's like this full-lv90-classes guy doesnt know Clemency is terrible. Ironic givenn that I only ever wiped Holminster if the healer was a WHM. All the others like SCH AST SGE, the nominally harder healers, could handle the dungeon perfectly fine.

@CaetsuChaijiCh

5 ай бұрын

I spent some time talking about the difficulties of Holminster Switch in my previous video on this subject actually! It is quite a brutal one, both of the first two pulls in the dungeon! That incident you described sounds quite strange. I mean, Regen alone might not have made the difference in that situation, but then again, neither would Clemency. Multiple things would be needed to get things right, so of course in a vacuum I can't suggest what would've saved it, but BOTH regen and clemency could have helped? Even though it would be a massive damage loss for the paladin especially

@minaly22

5 ай бұрын

@@CaetsuChaijiCh Regen would make a lot of difference since its 1500 potency and couldve been applied mid pull. As a healer main the first thing I always do is make sure regen/aspected benefic is applied. They didnt use regen and I kept losing health as i ran to pull and by the time I stop my health is already pretty low, though they try to Afflatus Solace there simply hasnt passed enough time to accumulate much charges, and hard cast Cure 2 fails since I die before it finishes. Anyway I also had the impression that the guy did not use Assize at all though I can't really prove it since I play with animations turned off (dammit Holy 🙈).

@CaetsuChaijiCh

5 ай бұрын

@minaly22 oh I didn't mean that regen wouldn't help. It was more that I wonder if that alone would've made the difference. Sure, optimally the paladin shouldn't need to use clemency, but sometimes desperate times call for desperate measures, hence why I said both things would help! I do think it is weird for a healer to demand clemency when they clearly decided to not use their full toolkit themselves 😅

have u considered the last pull of Amdapor Keep, my buddies get excited when we get that one on roulette because the first boss is always like "DALAMUD WILL RISE ONCE AGAIN!!!" and we think its funny but also the last trash pack can be insane, usually invuln and mage LB

@CaetsuChaijiCh

5 ай бұрын

Oh yeah it is an interesting one! I actually tend to forget about it because the sheer length of the halls meant we often didn't get to fight the entire pack due to things dying off on the way! 😅 But I don't think I've done a full complete mega pull in every part of it yet, so maybe it is worth trying and seeing 😂

The second pull in Qitana Ravel is my fav, pulling 3 mob packs and a patrol into a miniboss is awesome. Same goes for the first and last pulls of mt gulg which are almost as good, oh and last pull of akademia anyder. ShB had so many cool ones

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely! The giga pulls in Mt gulg are definitely insane! 😂

@uthoryan9151

6 ай бұрын

Wiped the party few weeks ago on that qitana ravel pull after returning to game and tanking after almost a year break 😅

@RagnarokiaNG

6 ай бұрын

My favourite pull in Qitana Ravel is the final one as if you run away after pulling the last pack the gorillas throwing stuff at you will jump down to join in the fight early instead of waiting for you to kill the stuff on the ground. It is fun to speed it up a little even if it looks silly to the rest of the party

@Scerttle

6 ай бұрын

Whenever I have a 71-79 dungeon in WT I solo unsync gulg and it's a thrill doing those pulls solo every time.

I watched this for the number 1…so much fun!

The pull from 2nd boss to the final boss of Mt. Gulg is one hell of a pull imo. Me and my friend have tried that pull with me tanking and him healing and there are times that I have to pop my invuln in order to survive the pull and other times where I barely don’t need to invuln, and then there are times I just die regardless of what we do. It just comes down to the DPS of the group and mitigation management for that pull I think

Maybe it was in the other video mentioned, but the 3 pack pull just before the second boss in Drowned City of Skalla is particularly fun and scary if people are unprepared.

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

Oh I didn't mention that one, but that's a pretty rough pull as well yeah! 😄

Most insane pull for me has always been the first w2w on mt. Gulg. It takes basically all of my mit, my invuln, a few externals from the healer, and maybe a little bit of kiting to delay autos for as long as I can. I let the healer know before hand if im doing this pull, as it catches many off guard. I play gunbreaker/dark knight. For that reason, i usually split it up 3 and 2.

I love to micro-optimise the dungeons that have less walls and more mechanics, especially in ARR with less survivability and tools available. I find the challenge gives more room for skill expression and it's way more interesting than just easy wall-to-wall spam like in some of the HW dungeons. Through many reruns, I've figured out which tanks I prefer in which dungeons, and where I can use their invuln etc to make the biggest pulls possible even in roulettes. If you name a dungeon, especially a more complex one, I can probably name an interesting optimisation or two. One thing a friend also showed me is locking mobs out of the boss room, then teleporting in. e.g. in Qarn normal or Dzemael.

I want to shout out amdapor keep for having functionally no walls between any of its bosses. I was legitimately surprised at how fun the pulls were to w2w when I got it in 50/60/70/80 roulette the other day. It was only after the last big one my friend realized he forgot to put Kardia on me 😂

10:03 So, I just _accidentally_ ran Shisui of the Violet Tides for the very first time the other day. For reference, I've only ever mained dps but I'm learning to tank/heal, and I was running my 63 white mage in leveling roulette just for the in need bonus and fully expecting to get an ARR dungeon as per usual as I've literally never gotten anything else on her. Instead, I got pulled into Shisui when I've never been there, I've never healed anything post-level 50 in a group, and our GNB tank did this exact thing after I mentioned it was my first time there. I had no idea where I was going or what was happening but we got through without a single death, though the tank did drop to less than 200hp at one point before I clutched a heal. Biggest amount of puckering I've experienced in a while 😂

@CaetsuChaijiCh

2 ай бұрын

Well done! Even on your first try! 😄

Back in 2.0 the mega-pull after Brayflox Longstop (HM)'s first boss to the second boss. This pull has sooooo many hobbies that jump on random players to do quite decent damage. The randomness of this pull meant that sometimes your healer would just get deleted. Obviously this dungeon is much easier now but back when you were JUST getting into this dungeon you stats weren't good enough to make this pull comfy.

One of my fc experienced a loss in her irl and so we figured out how to do the majority of ARR dungeons without actually killing the mobs. Caster sleep aoe, run to boss, tank holds them just outside the boss room when they wake up, and they will deaggro and go away once the boss room locks :)

My. Gulg first and last pulls are both insanely hard to pull off without a coordinated team

The final pull before the last boss in Mt. Gulg... I've done it once, and WOW was that a thrill.

i was surprised to not see mount gulg :0 you can do a big ass wall to wall right when you're entering the dungeon, and after the 2nd boss there is a CRAZY one you can do, but i've ever managed to do it like 2/3 with randoms, it's hard but if the dps helps with the mitigation as well and you exchange with your healer in a voice call it's possible, the hard part is due to the SIZE of the mobs, sometimes random don't even see the aoe under their feets and just got one shoted lmao

@CaetsuChaijiCh

5 ай бұрын

Indeed! I left out Mt. Gulg because I spoke about both of those pulls in the video linked in the pinned comment 😁 they are quite tough! 😄

I don't remember if it was in the first video, but the W2Ws in Amdapor Keep, especially the one before the last boss, is very spicy. I managed to make it through that as a DRK once and I could almost kiss my healer, definitely memorable. Another w2w that's burned into my soul is from when I was leveling my first healer, WHM. A very brave tank (I think a GNB) did both the w2ws in Holminster. It was my first time being worked that hard as a healer - my heart was _pounding,_ I had to genuinely take a break after it XD

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

I don't believe I covered the amdapor keep one. I do recall it has absurdly long hallways! In my experience when you have a decent group, the mobs slowly die off as you try to round up everything entirely because of the length of the dungeon! That doesn't mean that it is easy necessarily though! 😊 I always do the big pulls in holminster! It is always awkward when you are offered three packs specifically 😅 Awesome that you beat it!

@SakuraShuuichi

6 ай бұрын

the first one can also get pretty spicy going all they way to the first boss, you also end up with a couple adds extra adds that the mobs can summon if they complete the cast. then there is the pull from the first boss to the demonwall.

Some of these I've just defaultly done since they came out. Baelsars Wall and Anemnasis specifically I have done the most. I only started running into issues with Shisui recently. When it first came out, it felt easier to do the massive pulls. I'm rather surprised you didn't mention either of the big pulls in Mt Gulg. The first in the dungeon and right after the second boss can be challenging.

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

I didn't mention the big pulls in mt. Gulg because I spoke about them in the mentioned video 😊 The reason I mentioned other giga pulls that were in the other video was because something extra was added (for example, the previous video on the subject didn't even suggest pulling anything into a boss room!) I hope that clears this part up at least! 😁 The Mt. Gulg pulls are absolutely crazy! 😊 Edit: For your convenience, here is the link to the previous video, where I actually ranked the pulls in Mt. Gulg very highly! kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4N726hrk7G7qKQ.html

More a mini pull but Dalriada electric floor corridor (if mid team isn't standing on platforms) can still melt down your hp on tank even with bloodsucker if you're not prepared. For a w2w I hate healing when you just know the tank isn't ready easily goes to Holminster first pull. I find a lot of people have a wakeup call moment there.

10. Not as bad if the whole party is level sync'd and you have the right party makeup. I would say that it was probably impossible prior to the HP bump from Heavensward though. 9. It's kind of bad form to pull a pack into a boss fight, especially since Chimera requires strict positioning. The enemies here are not as bad as you think, though and this pull is pretty regularly seen nowadays. 8. Huge mistake, especially when it comes to the elementals. It's impossible for ranged ARR enemies to "miss" meaning that they will tear you a new butt hole if you pull both of the ice elemental spawns. Not sure if this changed with Endwalker, but this would definitely not be wise without a full skilled and level sync'd party. 7. This was a difficult section to even pull two packs in back in ARR. The risk of being knocked off the ledge was huge and the damage output of the frogs and the Anglerfish was a lot prior to the HP bump. It doesn't help that the first part of the dungeon always makes healers drop their guard since the tank and party get a massive damage reduction buff in the light. 6. You can't convince me that this pull is possible without some kind of devil's luck. The frogs turn the entire environment into a death trap and there's simply too much damage without a real invulnerability ability to lean on. 5. Not that bad nowadays, though it would've been problematic when TP was still a thing back in Heavensward/Stormblood and you didn't have level sync. After this point, a Warrior does most of the heavy lifting on these pulls, so it's not worth much to judge them via Endwalker standards. 4. I was able to do this pull a few times back in the day as a tank and healer both. Probably one of the best tests of how smooth a tank is and how good your healer is at snap decisions. It was more of a problem when TP was a thing, but it's pretty hard for a level sync'd party in Shadowbringers to have problems with it. 3. You can simply get unlucky here, as the Colossus can potentially critically hit you if you're not level sync'd here. For the second pull, I typically kill the first bit separately just to make it cleaner. 2. This is a typical pull since Ala Mhigo's level sync is way too generous. Even back when it first came out in Stormblood the only precaution you usually took was to kill the two gorillas. 1. This is the pull that you clicked the video to talk about, admit it. This was so much fun to do on release because it felt amazing to pull off. The strategy pre-level sync was usually to use a physical ranged LB in order to clean up most of the sahagin once they were gathered. It is the ultimate challenge for a Tank, and ultimately saves a lot of time.

When I was still a tank sprout, the healer told me to invuln once I'd collected all the mobs on that shisui pull. I followed instruction and felt so powerful.

There's a lot of random ARR bosses that can be stunned out of their close AOEs, including that first boss in Sastasha, if you're looking to keep uptime for some reason.

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

That is very true! 😁 Quite weird that in ARR leveling it feels like it's more likely you can stun than you can't!

Huh, from Baelsar's Wall and onward these are the only pulls I see 99% of the time. 😅 The exception is Ala Mhigo. I've seen that once, a few years ago. We survived it and I actually have a video of it because the pull was so unheard of at the time (and still is today, tbh).

I did that same Satasha pull without my tank stance on lol Level sync turning it off is stupid tbh

Stone Vigil, W2W pull before final boss. Had a skilled but undergeared warrior do that, Holmgang just delayed their death lol. Every time I cure 2 them, their HP instantly shot down to 1 again and we wiped. This kinda pull is best healed by AST, instant heals with Lightspeed and Essential Dignity for fast recovery. Aurum Vale footage is reenactment of what the tank did, lasted I healed there 💀 Doma Castle W2W are some of my favs to tank and heal. Only 2 times ever healed W2W between 2nd and final boss od Anyder and was back when ShB was current. Now a days, nobody on my datacenter tries it *shrugs*

Amdapor Keep from start to the gate before the 1st boss. No clue what they were thinking but it's basically the 1st room of Aurum Vale all over again.

Before even watching the vid, I'm gonna say the first run to the first boss in Doma Castle is the first one that springs to mind of wall to wall pulls I wouldn't do. I've seen it done, but it's ended in disaster more often than not, so when I'm in the lead I pull to the giants only then move on to the big magiteks.

I remember at the start of EW I was in a leveling roulette where I got Sastasha and I just saw the tank pulling the mobs into the boss fight but the double RPRs just crushed everything like a speed run

that first doma castle pull is ridiculous. Always feels nearly impossible without an experienced healer

absolutely shocked that that no ones talking about that one 3 group in dohn mehg between the 2nd and 3rd boss, that one usually requires a caster or range LB to get through it fast enough to survive

@SolunaFate37

6 ай бұрын

This pull was mentioned in his first video, which he stated he didn't want to double mention from.

@KadukuTena

6 ай бұрын

@@SolunaFate37 oh my fault didnt know this was a part 2

I would say brayflox hard would be a pain for the first pull, if you do go from the entrance to the door to the first boss.

I loved last pull in Anamnesis both as a tank and as a healer when it came out. I had SOOO many tanks/healers who were really scared of this pull and still are. Still this pull is fun.

I never expected to see number 4, 3 and 1 in this list, I see them done (and do them myself) pretty much on the regular with no issues, at least on Chaos. I'd like to add two more spicy pulls that are what I'd call "with friends only". The first one is the real wall pull after the second boss in Qitana Ravel. You see, you CAN pull the monkeys that are throwing stuff at you before killing the rest of the pull. All you need to do is enter the area where they are until you hit around the center of it, exit it (just go back through the stone entrance) and then enter again and they'll go down from the trees to fight with the rest of the pack, letting you kill everything at the same time. Not the spiciest pull, but definitely unexpected for newer players. The second one (my personal favorite) is the wall pull at the start of Mt Gulg. Once again, the "wall" is a lie and if you approach it it'll break, letting you pull the entire area until the first boss. It's even harder than the triple pull at the end since there's more mobs and you don't have LB to help you at that point, but it's VERY fun to pull off.

It was totally normal to pull like that in Shisui after the first boss. To be fair, you had way more defensive cooldowns back then, but still doable today without bigger problems. And I still wipe there because the healers are not expecting this and panic.

I'm tempted to try the stone vigil 100% pull as an unsynced paladin. See if I can kill ONLY the bosses, and pull everything else.

I forget the name od the dungeon but the first SHB dungeon first pull. I always forget how tough it is, go to do the pull, then get reminded why i shouldnt wall to wall pull it.

@CaetsuChaijiCh

5 ай бұрын

Indeed holminster switch is very tough! A lot of rough pulls in there 😊

6:10 had a mentor tank attempt to do this to me as a scholar throughout the whole dungeon and i was fearing for my life as i spammed that adlo and physick, praying for that crit shield 😂 They only died once at the last the pull before final boss but dps managed to be good meat shields so it wasnt a complete wipe...

@CaetsuChaijiCh

3 ай бұрын

Oh dear, that is certainly a risky approach from the tank 😅

I love that Shisui pull I always do it

My most insane Wall to wall and, funny enough, my first ever was from the first dungeon of the stormblood. the one that starts at the ship. I was playing as GNB and i wanted to try one Wall to wall but was always nervous to try. Then after, i believe the second boss (the one with the shadow attacks) i just went for it, all the way inside the castle with the bunch of zombie (skeletons?) Enemies. I still have no idea how we survived all that but damn i was shaking with fear and glee when i was doing it :p

Shusui is fun to heal, if I get a tank who can cycle their defensives, and in some cases even use their invuln at the start properly. I still like Gulg's starting and post first-boss mega pulls though.

The hardest part of many of these pulls post ARR is when you are doing this pulls on level and not being overgeared. It is significantly easier if synced down.

I was leveling MNK with another MNK friend and we queued for leveling roulette and got Sastasha. The tank would not stop mega pulling even though we had no aoe attack…

Mt. Gulg w2w after the second boss is harder than the Anyder one in my opinion. It should at least be mentioned, all the way from the second boss to the arena where the "THE LAND, THE LAND, THE LAND..." miniboss is. If you don't have a caster LB on that one, a invuln is almost required.

@CaetsuChaijiCh

5 ай бұрын

It is talked about in the previous video which is mentioned, link in the description, and I decided to not repeat it! 😊 But it is absolutely very hard!

The craziest dungeon pull i ever had was a Mt. Gulg pug. I was on SCH and at the start the tank asked if i wanted to try a mega pull. I said yes and what proceeded was the most fun dungeon ive ever had. We wiped 3 times and after each wipe the party kept asking if i wanted to try again. By the third try i was so determined to do it I just said hell yes, im not going to let this beat me. By the time the dungeon was over all of us were laughing at the insanity of it all. So much fun

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

That sounds like a great time! 😄

@IKMcGwee

6 ай бұрын

Those are always fun, but I appreciate the tank asked first. When I'm healer, I'm always down to try, but I do like knowing that it's gonna happen.

I'm surprised none of the ones that I consider to be the hardest made it to the list, specifically due to the fact that the ones on the list are considered by me and my friends to be easier. My top 5 hardest pulls: Honourable mentions: Holminster and Dohn Mheg 5. Bardam's Mettle...self explanatory 4. Kitana Ravel final pull with gorillas 3. Mt. Gulg final wall to wall 2. Qarn pull everything to the scales and activate them as well 1. Tamtara, from second mini boss to the final room

Finally, a topic I can weigh in on. 10 - Considering I do this pull every time now, regardless of my team's set up, this one would't even be on my list. I never die to is, so I don't consider it a problem. 9 - This pull is fine so long as you don't just agro the boss. That's an unnessessary extra step. That said, I've done it before out of spite. Long story I won't get into. 8 - Look, I may have maxed out all the tank classes, but I'm neither dumb enough nor brave enough to influct this horror on anyone. 7 - For this pull, you can skip all the ads by NOT healing the tank or attacking the mobs if you're, say, the DPS or Healer. Let the tank pull into the boss room, start the fight, tank dies, mobs reset at that distance, and you're good to go. If, however, enemies decided to kill everyone, run in circles around the arena for a few seconds to give the tank enough time to be rez'ed, have the tank agro only the boss, and let everyone else die. Mobs should reset automatically, and if you're fast enough, you can have everyone else teleport into the boss room. 6 - No... 5 - At this level (60), you're fine doing this pull. It's not that hard, you just need to let your healer know before hand it's going to be big pll and you're going to use your Tank's invulnerability. 4 - Take what I said about '5' and paste it here. Same shit, different dungeon. Communication is important. 3 - The first big pull is condiered 'hard?' I get mad as a healer when Tank's don't do this pull. When I am playing a tank, I consider it a medium difficulty pull. As for the mega pull; it's hard but doable. 2 - Now this pull was the first to come to mind when you first started the video. A real challange and one I love running. 1 - Take what I said about '5' and paste it here. Same shit, different dungeon. Communication is important. Edit: spelling

Where's the Mt Glug Glug megapull before finale?

@CaetsuChaijiCh

5 ай бұрын

Check the video in the pinned comment😉

Mt. Gulg after second boss is my personal "hardest" wall-to-wall

I'll jump on the Mt. Gulg bandwagon here. The initial huge pull is difficult, but the one between 2nd boss and the final midboss is only for the best Tanks and Healers... preferably with at least one DPS who has an Interrupt so that they and the Tank can cut down on the Forgiven Prejudice roomwide AoEs with those interrupts. (I don't know whether stuns also work; I always go straight to my interrupt if I see the pulsing red castbar.)

Sb the pull after 2nd boss in Mt gulg all the way to wall always need a invul and lb for it

Not a crazy w2w per se but a weird experience. Had a tank that might have been really good, couldn’t tell because we were doing the keeper of the lake dungeon. The tank a gunbreaker, goes the the first pack stops for 15 seconds, so i assume we’re not w2w, so I put my soil up only for them to then run to the next pack and keep going until the boss with the tanks that explode, I died because i couldn’t see the gas tanks under the mobs, I was the healer lol. They left and we cleared the dungeon when the the fill in tank

The comment at 9:14 about the skyarmor chain making players run away in fear legitimately made me laugh out loud because I've had two instances just in the last few days of farming tomestones for relics where that exact thing has happened as I furiously try to type out politely to tell the players thst it is normal and they should bring the mobs to the tank instead of flee. I know at least one of them was on a similar mech in the level 80 dungeon about the final days (forget the exact name) where dark elemental sprite enemies do a chain that does the same thing.

@TH3_DR3W

6 ай бұрын

Amaurot. And that tether doesn't do damage, but tries to attach to the healer reducing their healing potency.

@CaetsuChaijiCh

6 ай бұрын

Haha! Indeed, there's the bombs in amaurot that chase, and the roilers which makes healing weaker! But obviously, running away doesn't work on either! 😂

When I just got to Sastasha with my alt character, I was an ARC, the healer was a CNJ and the tank wanted to do w2w. They were the only one AoEing as the healer and I had to give every bit of our energy to keeping the tank alive. w2w responsibly, kids.

My last favorite dungeon to run as either a Healer or Tank is Holminster Switch.

It's definitely not a hard one, but one of my favorites is the very first pull in Dzemael Darkhold. I just think it's really fun.

If I remember correctly, the Doma Castle megapull, the AoEs there do not discriminate and do damage to the trash too.

For belsar's I just invun through the cannons, can't stop, won't stop. It's dumb, but it works.

Ironically, as a non-tank player who has every job at 90, I have never done any of the mega-pulls in the ARR dungeons but almost always do the rest of the ones on this list. I got extremely used to the Anamnesis Anyder pull during Expert Roulettes in Shadowbringers. This might just be my experience, but the first pull of Bardam's Mettle has a really bad habit of smashing unprepared tanks who try to wall-to-wall it and it can be a very unpleasant time if the healer isn't ready for that pull, too.

When Anemnesys Anyder first came out, I wall to wall'ed that massive pull after the 2nd boss, and ever since, I always will. Either AOE LB it, or enjoy the slog of how long it takes to kill. Either way I enjoy doing it, even had a healer report me a few times for doing it when it was current, for "griefing". But never once told me not to do it, so, **clown emoji here**

@CaetsuChaijiCh

5 ай бұрын

That report incident is really weird 🤔 I see no issue with pulling a lot like that if it ends well 😅

How to give a WHM a hearth attack.

Ah yes. Megapulls, especially post ARR. I used to feel a tinge of uncomfortableness doing them as tank (though I was perfectly fine doing them as healer), but I still did them nonetheless. Except the Mt.Gulg megapull since I only learned it was possible from your video. Then I picked up Warrior, and I now laugh at megapulls (above ARR at least. WAR is just so stupidly busted, Not only do they not need healers most of the time, they also do the most damage of the tanks, practically invalidating the other tanks IMO). The WAR confidence have infected my other tanking too, leading to an almost embarrassingly high level of random wipes when I don't play WAR. xD

@CaetsuChaijiCh

5 ай бұрын

With enough practice, and a decent healer, you can overcome these giga pulls even with dark knight! 😁 But yeah, warrior often just does it themselves! 😂

You have to complete these 10 Herculean tasks before you’re deemed worthy to attempt TOP without healers and upon completion achieve Godhood.

Shout-out to the unusually big female au ra guard at the end of that Shisui pull

The biggest pull imo is in Ala Mhigo because unlike Anyder, you probably wont have an LB to wreck the pull. After the second boss, then down the stairs then up the stairs while cannons shoot at you. Ive had one tank do that pull once and I was like "Looks like someone has a death wish, lets ruin his day and keep him alive". XD

Bardams is probably sketchiest 1st pack wall pull, especially without gear, one of few dungeons you can't just casually aoe as healer on

@CaetsuChaijiCh

5 ай бұрын

It is certainly a tough one! It doesn't help that it is right at the start since it means tank and healer might not be acquainted with how each other plays yet for example! 😅

As I was learning tank, I took my bf into ala mihgo, and he went healer, I told him I'm walking the second pull, but because the DPS were random, I would take it in a lax fashion, before the stairs leading down, id mark to monkey with target first get it to 75% then then head down to gather the dogs, couple of apes, then gather the rest and bolide